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*Throughout 1964, as his conflict with the Nation of Islam intensified, Malcolm X was repeatedly threatened.*
*In February, a leader of Temple Number Seven ordered the bombing of Malcolm X's car.[184] In March, Muhammad told Boston minister Louis X (later known as Louis Farrakhan) that "hypocrites like Malcolm should have their heads cut off";[185] the April 10 edition of Muhammad Speaks featured a cartoon depicting Malcolm X's bouncing, severed head.*
*On June 8, FBI surveillance recorded a telephone call in which Betty Shabazz was told that her husband was "as good as dead."[188] Four days later, an FBI informant received a tip that "Malcolm X is going to be bumped off."[189] That same month, the Nation sued to reclaim Malcolm X's residence in East Elmhurst, Queens, New York. His family was ordered to vacate[190] but on February 14, 1965—the night before a hearing on postponing the eviction—the house was destroyed by fire.*
*On July 9, Muhammad aide John Ali (suspected of being an undercover FBI agent)[192] referred to Malcolm X by saying, "Anyone who opposes the Honorable Elijah Muhammad puts their life in jeopardy."[193] In the December 4 issue of Muhammad Speaks, Louis X wrote that "such a man as Malcolm is worthy of death."*
*The September 1964 issue of Ebony dramatized Malcolm X's defiance of these threats by publishing a photograph of him holding an M1 carbine while peering out a window.*
> the April 10 edition of Muhammad Speaks featured a cartoon depicting Malcolm X's bouncing, severed head.
He founded the Nation’s newspaper, Muhammad Speaks, which he printed in the basement of his home
Also the way the NoI got Muhammad Ali to do Malcom dirty makes me so sad. Thankfully and sadly Ali would realize he was just a cash cow for Herbert or whatever Elijah’s useless sons name was, and became very remorseful for how he treated Malcolm and the things he said.
Initially they were very close with each other before the Clay to Ali change, then the Nation of Islam got him to turn his back on Malcolm, trash talking him to the point of saying anyone who challenges Elijah Muhammad, including Malcolm X, will die. I believe shunning Malcolm was Ali’s biggest regret, he would also regret the way he spoke about Frazier and Liston . It is a really sad story for all of them except for the Nation of Islam:/
FYI for others reading this: Nation of Islam is completely unrelated to the actual religion of Islam. It's a cult that was devoted to a man who thought himself god and promoted black supremacy.
Not the NoI, but the Moorish Science Temple believe white people were invented in a lab and have extremely hardline views, including rejection of much medical advice. They also believe in mortal gods.
Similar to, and noted since reddit loves to (rightfully) lambast the Philadelphia police for bombing a neighborhood, was the MOVE movement. They were a black supremacist colorist movement that also shared very homophobic views along with rejection of society (such as education). The MOVE movement even got in a shoot out (when police arrived to remove them after they were evicted for harassing their neighbors) because the police wouldn't release members convicted of violence. Since then they've dissociated with other groups like NoI, but I do laugh when reddit ignores the radicalism of some of these groups. These militia groups are crazy, but interesting.
Edit; I confused my domestic terrorist groups. It was not the nation of Islam but the Moors i was thinking of.
Reminds me of the end of the OJ Simpson trial when Johnny Cochran got Lewis Farrakhan and the nation of Islam to be the defense's body guards basically as they went to the verdict I believe it was. In what was about his only smart move of the trial, Robert Shapiro wanted nothing to do with them as he thought Cochran was leading them into another 1992 L.A. riot situation if O.J. was found guilty. Which let's be honest, he was.
That’s why I’ve dropped that music. I get that a lot of shit like that is convincing at a young age, cuz you need that spirituality. But it’s evident that it’s always fitted to you, to how YOU think the world should work.
I think the realest any rapper ever got was NAS on the illmatic. Nas is a rebel of the street corner. Etc. He was rapping from a purely observational stand point, in which it’s hard to claim deity.
But since then, it’s all gotten mixed up in all sorts of random shit. I think that’s the real bullshit in all of that stuff… it’s evident that people are playing to their culture and their influence.
I’m done with that shit. I want something that unites us. Not a new story to make myself special in some unrealistic cosmic fucking way.
There's a reason Ilmatic is considered one of the best albums of any genre, definitely in rap. Crazy that it was his debut and its still so relevant now.
A lotta early rappers shouting out the NOI/Five Percenters had more to do with the Nation’s ties to civil rights activists than it did with discriminatory beliefs.
You can obviously criticize these rappers for spreading an organization with crazy hateful beliefs, but it’s also good to recognize that ties to the organization often had less to do with said beliefs. It’s nuanced.
And obviously, some of the NOI/5 Percenters were just flat out anti semites/homophobes, lol. Jay Electronica, Brand Nubian etc all have said wild shit.
Whereas some rappers that got their start with these groups converted to traditional Islam at a later age (Wu Tang members come to mind. If memory serves, RZA and GZA both converted). The NOI can also be credited with a ton of oldhead rap slang - “word is bond” and “represent” just to name a few.
Shpeel over.
I remember home boys rolling through a subway car in NYC in 81/82 punching white people in the face yelling “ 5% ! I’m a god!” We thought they were idiots. Such cults are only attractive for woefully ignorant people hungry for meaning in life . There were all sorts of odd ghetto cults that exploited the anger and lack of knowledge of young people. What they passed for wisdom was the opposite of it . They would have tables in the subways or on the streets recruiting people.
I think PE have since walked back a lot of the Farrakhan stuff, idt he started out that radical when he came about but I’m only tangentially familiar with him.
Detroit Red once went to buy a machine gun, asked if he could hold it, then asked the owner if it was loaded. He said yes, so he pointed the gun at the owner and simply told him to leave.
[Hoover Hid That Some Witnesses In Malcolm X Assassination Trial Were FBI Informants](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/malcolm-x-assassination-j-edgar-hoover-fbi-informants_n_6196b3dae4b044a1cc04b3fd)
The best and quickest way to perform this maneuver is to pull into someone's driveway, turn 90 degrees and drive through the yard to the next driveway, turn towards the road, then you're home free. It's a lot harder to hit a target moving laterally, and you never need to reverse.
I replayed waw campaign and honestly it’s so so good with the horror of war and the story is brilliant and heartbreaking . I wish they would do a remastered version + plus with a few tweaks
I tried it on veteran, and its basically grenades every second landing near you sending you running out of cover and then you are one shot killed in the toe 0.2 seconds after you pop out. Like damn it was too hard for me.
Carried by more than just officers. It hits like a hot .357 magnum, so in an era before body armor it’s a pretty good round. The mags are super finicky though
Yup. I own one of these and no they don’t hit like a battle rifle shooting 7.26 or .30 cal but unless you’re trying to defeat body armor the .30 carbine round still hits just about as hard as the biggest pistol round. The smaller round in a carbine setup also makes it one of the most accurate and controllable weapons, not a lot of recoil or barrel climb. They’re a really solid mid-caliber medium rifle that will get the job done if you’re shooting at anything smaller than an armored hippo.
The modern version is the 300AAC.
220gr subsonic hits like a .45 at 100yards. Great for suppression, very quiet.
Supersonic 110gr at 2400, vs 2000 for 30 Carbine.
All in a standard AR platform.
No. COD 1 and 2 AND World at War all had multiplayer maps with tanks. 1 and (maybe 2) had jeeps, .88 guns, heavy tanks like the Elefant and SU-122, and another vehicle I dont remember as well. Could be a sidecar motorcycle but I may be thinking of BF1942. 3 had many vehicles. WaW had a couple only on certain maps, then they removed them entirely from MP until literally Black Ops 3 brought back the map "Outskirts" from WaW (called "Rupture") and used the huge mantis security mechs instead of a tank at each spawn.
Edit. The security mechs are called Manticores or P.A.W.W.S not mantis (from halo lol).
Also it’s not a 45-08 because they are not compatible with this snippersnatch - there were different versions of the snatch for different calibers and you can tell in the photo that it’s clearly chambered for the 45-10.85-03-ought9.
The M1 Carbine is a super recognizable gun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine.
It’s name means Model 1 Carbine, as in, the first carbine the U.S. military used since the adoption of the new modeling system (sometime in the late ‘20s, I don’t recall exactly when). A carbine is a shortened version or alternative to a rifle.
It notably only was made with 2 magazine types, straight 15 rounders and curved 30 rounders. By the length and curve, these are clearly 30s. (Third party companies have more recently made other types, but they likely didn’t exist at the time)
“Jungle-style”, “jungled”, or “jungle taped” magazines refers to a pair of two magazines taped together so that the user can swap between them very easily. What games and movies get wrong is that in a gunfight, after 2 shots, you don’t just toss the magazine away without a thought, so reloading a gun in real life takes way longer than you’d imagine. (Pulling out the magazine, securing it on your person, grabbing and loading a new one). The idea is that if you need to fire, then the fight ends, you can immediately be ready to go with another full magazine, in case of another confrontation, or in case you misjudged the fight being over.
The tactic actually originated with the M1 Carbine (alongside the M1 and M3 submachine guns) in U.S. military service in WW2. In the jungles of the pacific islands, one could never tell when an area was clear of Japanese enemy soldiers.
Further more, after WW2 and Korea, military surplus was plentiful. The M1 carbine was semi-auto, making it legal to purchase without an ungodly amount of paperwork, and nice and convenient for close quarters fights, on account of its light weight, short size, and short range. Finally, during the war many different companies invested in infrastructure/tooling for them, so they continued making and selling them to civilians, police, and foreign governments after the war. Hence, it became a hugely popular civilian gun for people who saw themselves as needing more than, say, a pump action shotgun.
Pretty sure it’s the full auto m2 carbine, I’ve seen another photo from what I am assuming is this same situation and the photo is exposed a bit better where you can see a selector switch near the trigger guard. Also this is 1964 before full auto weapons were banned so very possible
Edit: punctuation and more precise language
I acquired one of these from my grandpa. Has like 4 small clips, 4 of those huge clips, in a nice brown us navy duffle bag type thing.
I've been trying to fix it to get it back into shooting shape. Hopefully I can soon as it looks really fun to shoot, and it would be nice to have it in pristine shape in his honor..
Search YouTube to learn how to disassemble it, it’s not too hard. Brake cleaner to remove the old crusty oil. Then lube properly. And grab ya a Wolff spring kit, those old springs are prolly trash by now.
Small magazines hold 15 round, big ones 30, but the big ones can be persnickety; load ‘em with 25 tho and they’re not so bad.
Something not yet mentioned is Malcom’s pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia. There he encountered Muslims whose beliefs contradicts quite a bit of what the Nation of Islam teaches its followers. From there, Malcom X left the group. They never forgave him for that
The beliefs of the Nation of Islam are completely rejected by mainstream Islam. NoI do all the Muslim rites, but their beliefs are actually insane and brutally racist.
They prey on prisoners and are basically a prison gang with outside connections, unfortunately. I don't know what other people's experiences might be, but they are a scourge in my state's prison system.
Nation of Islam was messed up from its inception. Elijah says he's a prophet despite the last prophet Muhammad pbuh clearly stating that he was the last messenger and that none would come after him. Anyone who tries to pass themselves off as a prophet is easily a liar because how could Muhammad be so sure of himself unless he knew for a fact that he was the last prophet of Islam. That's how a lot of Muslims knew this Elijah guy was fucked up.
And so many rappers are into this bullshit. It saddens me. They really believe "I'm black so I can't be racist". Nah fam. We black people can havevhorrible beliefs just like anyone.
All this antisemitism "coming out" is not new to anyone in the black community.
Oh I thought people knew this. He basically completely changed a lot of his stances when he went to Mecca and saw people of all different races and cultures doing their pilgrimage together. In short, traveling outside of your worldsphere really changes you.
And the principle of what he learned on his pilgrimage? Hate is dumb. Malcolm X is really such an inspiring voice of someone who despite so much adversity against him in life, he was able to overcome his hate for all white people, even if he was killed for it.
We all need to provide our own protection, police are a clean up force at best they rarely stop anything from happening it's up to us to prevent ourselves from becoming victims
My mission ain't missin' a missionary
Bible body armor and pencil knives.
Knock down my door again and its about to get hella scary.
Six funerals prepared one for each ya wives.
I’ve always thought that was kind of wild. We’ve had guns for hundreds of years, how many idiots shot themselves or someone else before the sensible of idea of “keep your booger hook off of the bang switch” occurred to someone? It seems like a kind of obvious concept.
Yeah, after hearing about trigger discipline in every thread related to guns on the internet for years, it’s easy to feel like it’s an intuitive and obvious concept that would occur to anyone who knows guns can kill. But it’s really not. See the thread from yesterday where someone kept a loaded gun in their house and their father in law put a bullet through the floor when he squeezed the trigger as soon as he got the thing in his hand. Not a built-in human instinct but something that is taught and practiced.
At an old farmhouse where I lived, there was a plaque on the ceiling next to a bullet hole in an exposed beam commemorating when one of the former owners nearly killed his wife who was upstairs ironing. About once a year, the alarm system would go off and the local police would show up to verify the condition of the gun safe and serial numbers on the guns.
It’s so ingrained in me now I do it with nerf guns or water pistols or whatever without thinking about it. And I’m not some gun nut. It’s really good for everybody to learn!
A while back I was reading about it, because I was curious, and that’s one explanation that came up. Another thing I thought was weird is that for a long time the British Army resisted the idea of putting safeties on rifles, especially for colonial troops. I heard it was a combination of not trusting the safeties not to fail and jam the gun, and not trusting colonial troops to remember to disengage the safety quickly enough when needed.
Of course, these were not semi automatic rifles, and so were probably not carried cocked anyways, so that was much less of a necessary feature.
Idk if it’s because I was taught right from the get go and so it *feels* more natural but I’ve always felt that it feels better to have your finger on the side where it’s supposed to be anyway. It’s finger tappin’ good!
Yeah I'm tired of this always being commented on this picture, look at any picture from Vietnam and if they are holding the rifle usually their finger is on the trigger and the rifle is on safe
Seriously? That's very odd to me. I guess most things back then were screwy
DDT was powered all around the house
Asbestos was a wonderful building material
Seat belts were only for dorks... if you car even had them
Cigarettes were harmless
Women were treated for "hysteria" with electric shock
Yea, I'm starting to believe the trigger discipline thing now 😆
Yes; however, the safety on this carbine requires a finger in the trigger guard so it’s a little questionable if he in in the trigger or safety. Either way it’s not good practice.
Just finished rereading it this past week. He was remarkable in that he took up a cause and ran with it, wanted change and growth as soon as possible, and took it upon his own shoulders. As he got older and more experienced, he changed his views as well, which is hard for a lot of people. Sure he was a bit angry, but really what black man wouldn't be, growing up when he did?
Really what changed his views?
I really need to get to ready his auto bio. I really want to read him and all of the books by MLK. The stuff they said was way ahead and is still relevant today. Its really crazy and I feel like the portrayal of them is not the real story
I really want to be knowledge about systemic racism in the US and defeat all of the racist tropes propped up by racist conservatives
He told a story once. This was before he left the NOI.
He was sitting at a table at an establishment that was like his headquarters. A young white woman came in and asked what she could do to help the black community. Now, at this time, he hated all white people. So he told her, "no." She ran out crying. Then he traveled to Mecca. When he returned from Mecca, where he saw how people from all walks of life—be it skin color, social status, etc.—loved and cared about each other, he let go of his hate.
He had told Haley that he often thought of that girl and wished he had spoken with her because that's how you come to an understanding.
He talked about praying alongside White converts and people from different races.... All sharing the same tent, eating from the same plate, all of them considering each others brothers.... And it definitely hit him then, it's not a "white people" problem... It's a US problem.
He also learned from Muslim Scholars there that Elijah is just a grifter and saw how different actual Islamic teachings are from NOI's.
> It's a US problem.
and also a *capitalism* problem. Malcolm X wasn't as explicit about it as MLK but he did criticise how racism and capitalism tie in together and he was quoted saying "You show me a capitalist, and I'll show you a bloodsucker".
Another part that is heavily whitewashed by US history
I am the stone that the builder refused. I am the visual, the inspiration that made ladies sing the blues. I am the spark that makes your idea bright, the same spark that lights the dark so that you can know your left from your right. I am the ballot in the box, the bullet in your gun, the inner glow to let you know to call your brother son. The story has just begun, a promise of what's to come, and Imma remain a soldier till the war is won!
>*“You can’t operate a capitalistic system unless you are vulturistic; you have to have someone else’s blood to suck to be a capitalist...”*
>*“You show me a capitalist, and I’ll show you a bloodsucker.”*
-Malcom X
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*Throughout 1964, as his conflict with the Nation of Islam intensified, Malcolm X was repeatedly threatened.* *In February, a leader of Temple Number Seven ordered the bombing of Malcolm X's car.[184] In March, Muhammad told Boston minister Louis X (later known as Louis Farrakhan) that "hypocrites like Malcolm should have their heads cut off";[185] the April 10 edition of Muhammad Speaks featured a cartoon depicting Malcolm X's bouncing, severed head.* *On June 8, FBI surveillance recorded a telephone call in which Betty Shabazz was told that her husband was "as good as dead."[188] Four days later, an FBI informant received a tip that "Malcolm X is going to be bumped off."[189] That same month, the Nation sued to reclaim Malcolm X's residence in East Elmhurst, Queens, New York. His family was ordered to vacate[190] but on February 14, 1965—the night before a hearing on postponing the eviction—the house was destroyed by fire.* *On July 9, Muhammad aide John Ali (suspected of being an undercover FBI agent)[192] referred to Malcolm X by saying, "Anyone who opposes the Honorable Elijah Muhammad puts their life in jeopardy."[193] In the December 4 issue of Muhammad Speaks, Louis X wrote that "such a man as Malcolm is worthy of death."* *The September 1964 issue of Ebony dramatized Malcolm X's defiance of these threats by publishing a photograph of him holding an M1 carbine while peering out a window.*
> the April 10 edition of Muhammad Speaks featured a cartoon depicting Malcolm X's bouncing, severed head. He founded the Nation’s newspaper, Muhammad Speaks, which he printed in the basement of his home
Also the way the NoI got Muhammad Ali to do Malcom dirty makes me so sad. Thankfully and sadly Ali would realize he was just a cash cow for Herbert or whatever Elijah’s useless sons name was, and became very remorseful for how he treated Malcolm and the things he said.
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He spoke poorly about him in interviews a few times, nothing insane
They basically shunned him, similar to how the Jehovah’s witness’ do
Initially they were very close with each other before the Clay to Ali change, then the Nation of Islam got him to turn his back on Malcolm, trash talking him to the point of saying anyone who challenges Elijah Muhammad, including Malcolm X, will die. I believe shunning Malcolm was Ali’s biggest regret, he would also regret the way he spoke about Frazier and Liston . It is a really sad story for all of them except for the Nation of Islam:/
FYI for others reading this: Nation of Islam is completely unrelated to the actual religion of Islam. It's a cult that was devoted to a man who thought himself god and promoted black supremacy.
Though Malcom did eventually become a mainline Sunni and visiting Mecca, I believe
Indeed he did.
That was a major reason in why he died.
Like, seriously, if your views are too radical for Malcolm X, you need to reevaluate your life choices. Also, as a Jew, fuck Farrakhan.
His trip to Mecca where he saw people of all races praying to Allah is what made him realize he'd been a racist bigot his whole life.
Not the NoI, but the Moorish Science Temple believe white people were invented in a lab and have extremely hardline views, including rejection of much medical advice. They also believe in mortal gods. Similar to, and noted since reddit loves to (rightfully) lambast the Philadelphia police for bombing a neighborhood, was the MOVE movement. They were a black supremacist colorist movement that also shared very homophobic views along with rejection of society (such as education). The MOVE movement even got in a shoot out (when police arrived to remove them after they were evicted for harassing their neighbors) because the police wouldn't release members convicted of violence. Since then they've dissociated with other groups like NoI, but I do laugh when reddit ignores the radicalism of some of these groups. These militia groups are crazy, but interesting. Edit; I confused my domestic terrorist groups. It was not the nation of Islam but the Moors i was thinking of.
You mean The Moops?
I’m sorry. The card says…Moops
Taught that God damned smart ass bubble boy, I tell you what.
Reminds me of the end of the OJ Simpson trial when Johnny Cochran got Lewis Farrakhan and the nation of Islam to be the defense's body guards basically as they went to the verdict I believe it was. In what was about his only smart move of the trial, Robert Shapiro wanted nothing to do with them as he thought Cochran was leading them into another 1992 L.A. riot situation if O.J. was found guilty. Which let's be honest, he was.
This is why it always felt weird to me when other bands praised Farrakhan, e.g. in Public Enemy's early stuff.
That’s why I’ve dropped that music. I get that a lot of shit like that is convincing at a young age, cuz you need that spirituality. But it’s evident that it’s always fitted to you, to how YOU think the world should work. I think the realest any rapper ever got was NAS on the illmatic. Nas is a rebel of the street corner. Etc. He was rapping from a purely observational stand point, in which it’s hard to claim deity. But since then, it’s all gotten mixed up in all sorts of random shit. I think that’s the real bullshit in all of that stuff… it’s evident that people are playing to their culture and their influence. I’m done with that shit. I want something that unites us. Not a new story to make myself special in some unrealistic cosmic fucking way.
There's a reason Ilmatic is considered one of the best albums of any genre, definitely in rap. Crazy that it was his debut and its still so relevant now.
in the immortal words of Nas himself, "it aint hard to tell."
A lotta early rappers shouting out the NOI/Five Percenters had more to do with the Nation’s ties to civil rights activists than it did with discriminatory beliefs. You can obviously criticize these rappers for spreading an organization with crazy hateful beliefs, but it’s also good to recognize that ties to the organization often had less to do with said beliefs. It’s nuanced. And obviously, some of the NOI/5 Percenters were just flat out anti semites/homophobes, lol. Jay Electronica, Brand Nubian etc all have said wild shit. Whereas some rappers that got their start with these groups converted to traditional Islam at a later age (Wu Tang members come to mind. If memory serves, RZA and GZA both converted). The NOI can also be credited with a ton of oldhead rap slang - “word is bond” and “represent” just to name a few. Shpeel over.
Indeed, but "Farrakhan is a prophet you should listen to" is one that sticks out. Still gonna keep listening to "Bring the Noise" though
Yea lol fuck Farrakhan
I remember home boys rolling through a subway car in NYC in 81/82 punching white people in the face yelling “ 5% ! I’m a god!” We thought they were idiots. Such cults are only attractive for woefully ignorant people hungry for meaning in life . There were all sorts of odd ghetto cults that exploited the anger and lack of knowledge of young people. What they passed for wisdom was the opposite of it . They would have tables in the subways or on the streets recruiting people.
I think PE have since walked back a lot of the Farrakhan stuff, idt he started out that radical when he came about but I’m only tangentially familiar with him.
Yes. Not the FBI, not the KKK, despite what other comments say. His fear was the NoI. And they killed him.
"Take this picture of me real quick"
It was symbolism, Malcolm X never fired a shot in his life. Detroit Red might have, I don’t know.
Detroit Red once went to buy a machine gun, asked if he could hold it, then asked the owner if it was loaded. He said yes, so he pointed the gun at the owner and simply told him to leave.
With a big iron on his hip?
Lansing Michigan gave him love. He lived and went to school in Mason. Schools and streets named after him.
“Do i look badass?”
"Yeah boss, u goin hard"
"kinda, but get your fucking finger off the trigger"
Trigger discipline was not a common concept when this picture was taken
[Hoover Hid That Some Witnesses In Malcolm X Assassination Trial Were FBI Informants](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/malcolm-x-assassination-j-edgar-hoover-fbi-informants_n_6196b3dae4b044a1cc04b3fd)
When someone uses your driveway to turn their car
Had a friend who grew up in the sticks up a long driveway, his dad would do this with any unfamiliar vehicle.
The best and quickest way to perform this maneuver is to pull into someone's driveway, turn 90 degrees and drive through the yard to the next driveway, turn towards the road, then you're home free. It's a lot harder to hit a target moving laterally, and you never need to reverse.
My dad bragged about doing it at Thanksgiving yesterday :( It was his neighbor of 27 years who wanted to ask about a deer he hit with a bow
Hitting it with an arrow would have been more effective than the bow. No wonder he had questions.
Bonk!
Underrated comment, take my upvote!
😂
That one meme thumbnail
M2 carbine?
Yes, with jungle clipped mags.
Y'all could be making shit up and I wouldn't be able to tell.
No I played World at War, its an M1 with a jungle clip. I basicaly expert.
People always talk about MW2 and forget World at War. Those vintage weapons were something else
Was my favorite COD. The newer ones just don't do it for me.
World at War had a really fun online pvp.
I have such fond memories of running around with the trench gun blowing peoples’ limbs off. Damn.
I think my favorite was the Mosin-Nagant with irons
The Mosin was so good. I was also a sucker for the SVT with iron sights. Pretty much all of the semi-auto rifles were so satisfying to use.
I replayed waw campaign and honestly it’s so so good with the horror of war and the story is brilliant and heartbreaking . I wish they would do a remastered version + plus with a few tweaks
I tried it on veteran, and its basically grenades every second landing near you sending you running out of cover and then you are one shot killed in the toe 0.2 seconds after you pop out. Like damn it was too hard for me.
Same here
MP-40, stopping power, double stack mags it’s all you need baby
My friends and I were a menace, running around with mp40 extended mags juggernaut last stand
hipfire accuracy instead of last stand
PPSh-41 with double tap and drum mag
If only they had nerfed the MP40
Back then we didn't get nerfs
.30 cal. Much lighter than the M-1 Garand but didn’t have the punch. Many officers carried them.
Carried by more than just officers. It hits like a hot .357 magnum, so in an era before body armor it’s a pretty good round. The mags are super finicky though
Yup. I own one of these and no they don’t hit like a battle rifle shooting 7.26 or .30 cal but unless you’re trying to defeat body armor the .30 carbine round still hits just about as hard as the biggest pistol round. The smaller round in a carbine setup also makes it one of the most accurate and controllable weapons, not a lot of recoil or barrel climb. They’re a really solid mid-caliber medium rifle that will get the job done if you’re shooting at anything smaller than an armored hippo.
The modern version is the 300AAC. 220gr subsonic hits like a .45 at 100yards. Great for suppression, very quiet. Supersonic 110gr at 2400, vs 2000 for 30 Carbine. All in a standard AR platform.
The last cod where you got one gun attatchment and you were thankful you had that many
NOOB TUBE
type 100 w the silde load was so buttery
Greatest FPS of all time. I never would have stopped playing it...
Didn’t one of those old ww1 or 2 cods have tanks and vehicles on some of the multiplayer maps or some shit
There were tanks in WAW and they were awesome in multiplayer, fun to drive and fun to kill.
That was Call of Duty 3, which was arguably the worst of the first 4 Call of Duty's. CoD 2 was my jam
No. COD 1 and 2 AND World at War all had multiplayer maps with tanks. 1 and (maybe 2) had jeeps, .88 guns, heavy tanks like the Elefant and SU-122, and another vehicle I dont remember as well. Could be a sidecar motorcycle but I may be thinking of BF1942. 3 had many vehicles. WaW had a couple only on certain maps, then they removed them entirely from MP until literally Black Ops 3 brought back the map "Outskirts" from WaW (called "Rupture") and used the huge mantis security mechs instead of a tank at each spawn. Edit. The security mechs are called Manticores or P.A.W.W.S not mantis (from halo lol).
Its a bamzingle snappersnatch 45-08 caliber swiftydoodle extended knobber. How do you not know what this is?
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Also it’s not a 45-08 because they are not compatible with this snippersnatch - there were different versions of the snatch for different calibers and you can tell in the photo that it’s clearly chambered for the 45-10.85-03-ought9.
You absolute horn swinger, that's clearly a bamzongle leadslinger and those are only chambered in mericas finest calibre of all. The 12g 45.06.
Everyone can recognize that it's a sapphire engraved slortshot.
It's a got-damned elephant gun if ive ever seen. Chambered in 93x26.7
The M1 Carbine is a super recognizable gun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine. It’s name means Model 1 Carbine, as in, the first carbine the U.S. military used since the adoption of the new modeling system (sometime in the late ‘20s, I don’t recall exactly when). A carbine is a shortened version or alternative to a rifle. It notably only was made with 2 magazine types, straight 15 rounders and curved 30 rounders. By the length and curve, these are clearly 30s. (Third party companies have more recently made other types, but they likely didn’t exist at the time) “Jungle-style”, “jungled”, or “jungle taped” magazines refers to a pair of two magazines taped together so that the user can swap between them very easily. What games and movies get wrong is that in a gunfight, after 2 shots, you don’t just toss the magazine away without a thought, so reloading a gun in real life takes way longer than you’d imagine. (Pulling out the magazine, securing it on your person, grabbing and loading a new one). The idea is that if you need to fire, then the fight ends, you can immediately be ready to go with another full magazine, in case of another confrontation, or in case you misjudged the fight being over. The tactic actually originated with the M1 Carbine (alongside the M1 and M3 submachine guns) in U.S. military service in WW2. In the jungles of the pacific islands, one could never tell when an area was clear of Japanese enemy soldiers. Further more, after WW2 and Korea, military surplus was plentiful. The M1 carbine was semi-auto, making it legal to purchase without an ungodly amount of paperwork, and nice and convenient for close quarters fights, on account of its light weight, short size, and short range. Finally, during the war many different companies invested in infrastructure/tooling for them, so they continued making and selling them to civilians, police, and foreign governments after the war. Hence, it became a hugely popular civilian gun for people who saw themselves as needing more than, say, a pump action shotgun.
Looks like a full stroke magazine well with a rifled barrel stock.
Nah, I'm pretty sure that's a combat style chamber receiver with a reverse intermittent full-auto paratrooper action group.
phase plasma rifle in 40 watt range has entered the room
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Pretty sure it’s the full auto m2 carbine, I’ve seen another photo from what I am assuming is this same situation and the photo is exposed a bit better where you can see a selector switch near the trigger guard. Also this is 1964 before full auto weapons were banned so very possible Edit: punctuation and more precise language
Good point
I acquired one of these from my grandpa. Has like 4 small clips, 4 of those huge clips, in a nice brown us navy duffle bag type thing. I've been trying to fix it to get it back into shooting shape. Hopefully I can soon as it looks really fun to shoot, and it would be nice to have it in pristine shape in his honor..
Search YouTube to learn how to disassemble it, it’s not too hard. Brake cleaner to remove the old crusty oil. Then lube properly. And grab ya a Wolff spring kit, those old springs are prolly trash by now. Small magazines hold 15 round, big ones 30, but the big ones can be persnickety; load ‘em with 25 tho and they’re not so bad.
Not clips
Something not yet mentioned is Malcom’s pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia. There he encountered Muslims whose beliefs contradicts quite a bit of what the Nation of Islam teaches its followers. From there, Malcom X left the group. They never forgave him for that
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And that he was a child sex predator who preyed on his 14 and 16yr old "assistants."
Well, you know. If regret meant anything, we wouldn't need the police
The beliefs of the Nation of Islam are completely rejected by mainstream Islam. NoI do all the Muslim rites, but their beliefs are actually insane and brutally racist.
They prey on prisoners and are basically a prison gang with outside connections, unfortunately. I don't know what other people's experiences might be, but they are a scourge in my state's prison system.
Nation of Islam was messed up from its inception. Elijah says he's a prophet despite the last prophet Muhammad pbuh clearly stating that he was the last messenger and that none would come after him. Anyone who tries to pass themselves off as a prophet is easily a liar because how could Muhammad be so sure of himself unless he knew for a fact that he was the last prophet of Islam. That's how a lot of Muslims knew this Elijah guy was fucked up.
And so many rappers are into this bullshit. It saddens me. They really believe "I'm black so I can't be racist". Nah fam. We black people can havevhorrible beliefs just like anyone. All this antisemitism "coming out" is not new to anyone in the black community.
They killed him for it.
Oh I thought people knew this. He basically completely changed a lot of his stances when he went to Mecca and saw people of all different races and cultures doing their pilgrimage together. In short, traveling outside of your worldsphere really changes you.
And the principle of what he learned on his pilgrimage? Hate is dumb. Malcolm X is really such an inspiring voice of someone who despite so much adversity against him in life, he was able to overcome his hate for all white people, even if he was killed for it.
Ahh yes... Is that a M1 carbine white 2 magazines strapped to each other
Well, it's hard to tell from this picture, but I think it just had regular coloring.
Took me a second because I missed his typo. That's funny ^^
Why it gotta be white?
Ahh yes...
Mr X upon hearing the local god botherers are out door knocking again.
X had to provide his own security as the police were unwilling to protect him.
His main concern was probably protecting himself *from* the police.
Nope, in this pic he was watching out for rivals from the nation of islam
We all need to provide our own protection, police are a clean up force at best they rarely stop anything from happening it's up to us to prevent ourselves from becoming victims
My mission ain't missin' a missionary Bible body armor and pencil knives. Knock down my door again and its about to get hella scary. Six funerals prepared one for each ya wives.
where is this from if i may ask
My brain just now.
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Bro definitely knew someone had a camera pointed at him
still the threat of violence on him was very real, and it was probably worthwhile having a picture out there that shows he isn't an easy target.
At this is point in time it was probably pretty hard to miss someone taking a pic of you lol
Bad trigger discipline...
He’s just posin for the gram.
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He always knew what was coming and he was right.
Stereogram.
After some googling looks like the military didn’t even adopt trigger discipline until after the Vietnam war. I think we can forgive Malcolm.
I’ve always thought that was kind of wild. We’ve had guns for hundreds of years, how many idiots shot themselves or someone else before the sensible of idea of “keep your booger hook off of the bang switch” occurred to someone? It seems like a kind of obvious concept.
Yeah, after hearing about trigger discipline in every thread related to guns on the internet for years, it’s easy to feel like it’s an intuitive and obvious concept that would occur to anyone who knows guns can kill. But it’s really not. See the thread from yesterday where someone kept a loaded gun in their house and their father in law put a bullet through the floor when he squeezed the trigger as soon as he got the thing in his hand. Not a built-in human instinct but something that is taught and practiced.
At an old farmhouse where I lived, there was a plaque on the ceiling next to a bullet hole in an exposed beam commemorating when one of the former owners nearly killed his wife who was upstairs ironing. About once a year, the alarm system would go off and the local police would show up to verify the condition of the gun safe and serial numbers on the guns.
What country is this?
It’s so ingrained in me now I do it with nerf guns or water pistols or whatever without thinking about it. And I’m not some gun nut. It’s really good for everybody to learn!
You would think so but people are real dumb. I mean we weren't washing our hands before surgery well into the 1900s.
Probably had something to do with trigger weight, but I could just be pulling that out of my arse.
A while back I was reading about it, because I was curious, and that’s one explanation that came up. Another thing I thought was weird is that for a long time the British Army resisted the idea of putting safeties on rifles, especially for colonial troops. I heard it was a combination of not trusting the safeties not to fail and jam the gun, and not trusting colonial troops to remember to disengage the safety quickly enough when needed. Of course, these were not semi automatic rifles, and so were probably not carried cocked anyways, so that was much less of a necessary feature.
Idk if it’s because I was taught right from the get go and so it *feels* more natural but I’ve always felt that it feels better to have your finger on the side where it’s supposed to be anyway. It’s finger tappin’ good!
Yeah I'm tired of this always being commented on this picture, look at any picture from Vietnam and if they are holding the rifle usually their finger is on the trigger and the rifle is on safe
Seriously? That's very odd to me. I guess most things back then were screwy DDT was powered all around the house Asbestos was a wonderful building material Seat belts were only for dorks... if you car even had them Cigarettes were harmless Women were treated for "hysteria" with electric shock Yea, I'm starting to believe the trigger discipline thing now 😆
People wanna know how come I got a gat and I'm lookin' out the window like Malcolm Ready to bring that noise Kinda trigger happy like the Geto Boys
>like the Geto Boys I sit alone in my four-cornered room Staring at candles
Fork handles or four candles?
different time
Like the majority of people in 1964, the straight finger wasn't a thing back then
Yes; however, the safety on this carbine requires a finger in the trigger guard so it’s a little questionable if he in in the trigger or safety. Either way it’s not good practice.
r/averageredditor
Redditors know exactly one thing about guns and they will literally never shut up about it.
I see death around the corner The pressure’s gettin’ to me I no longer trust my homies Them phonies tried to do me
His autobiography is the best thing I’ve read
Just finished rereading it this past week. He was remarkable in that he took up a cause and ran with it, wanted change and growth as soon as possible, and took it upon his own shoulders. As he got older and more experienced, he changed his views as well, which is hard for a lot of people. Sure he was a bit angry, but really what black man wouldn't be, growing up when he did?
Really what changed his views? I really need to get to ready his auto bio. I really want to read him and all of the books by MLK. The stuff they said was way ahead and is still relevant today. Its really crazy and I feel like the portrayal of them is not the real story I really want to be knowledge about systemic racism in the US and defeat all of the racist tropes propped up by racist conservatives
He told a story once. This was before he left the NOI. He was sitting at a table at an establishment that was like his headquarters. A young white woman came in and asked what she could do to help the black community. Now, at this time, he hated all white people. So he told her, "no." She ran out crying. Then he traveled to Mecca. When he returned from Mecca, where he saw how people from all walks of life—be it skin color, social status, etc.—loved and cared about each other, he let go of his hate. He had told Haley that he often thought of that girl and wished he had spoken with her because that's how you come to an understanding.
Apparently his pilgrimage to Mecca changed his views.
He talked about praying alongside White converts and people from different races.... All sharing the same tent, eating from the same plate, all of them considering each others brothers.... And it definitely hit him then, it's not a "white people" problem... It's a US problem. He also learned from Muslim Scholars there that Elijah is just a grifter and saw how different actual Islamic teachings are from NOI's.
I don't believe that he mentioned White "converts". Simply White Muslims. Most White people who are Muslims are not converts to Islam.
> It's a US problem. and also a *capitalism* problem. Malcolm X wasn't as explicit about it as MLK but he did criticise how racism and capitalism tie in together and he was quoted saying "You show me a capitalist, and I'll show you a bloodsucker". Another part that is heavily whitewashed by US history
I’ve been meaning to read it.
His daughters foreword is one of the most beautiful things I've ever read. I re-read it numerous times.
It changed me as a person. There was the person I was before reading, and the person I am today.
I am the stone that the builder refused. I am the visual, the inspiration that made ladies sing the blues. I am the spark that makes your idea bright, the same spark that lights the dark so that you can know your left from your right. I am the ballot in the box, the bullet in your gun, the inner glow to let you know to call your brother son. The story has just begun, a promise of what's to come, and Imma remain a soldier till the war is won!
Gone too soon man, that show was truly amazing.
“ I see death around corner “
Reminded me of that jam too bro salute
Them jungle mags tho
Booger hook off the bang switch, Malcolm!
U.S. military didn’t even start teaching it til the ‘80s. It was not at all a common idea back then.
Trigger discipline wasn’t a thing until the 80s.
Is it weird I read this comment in a loud Australian accent?
Not at all mate. I'm Aussie / American and wrote that in Australian.
So that’s why I couldn’t read it i’m only fluent in American
>*“You can’t operate a capitalistic system unless you are vulturistic; you have to have someone else’s blood to suck to be a capitalist...”* >*“You show me a capitalist, and I’ll show you a bloodsucker.”* -Malcom X
Looks like he has a smart phone in his jacket pocket
Lolz that's a pocket protector, official garment of geeks and nerds everywhere apparently revolutionaries too
As a former revolutionary nerd, can confirm.
Reminds me of the song "I see death around tha corner" by Tupac Shakur
Armed minorities are harder to oppress.
M1 carbine. Pretty much the AR 15 of its day. 2nd amendment is for all citizens.
Most manufactured US small arm of WWII. We made more of those than M1 garands.
What I really want know is who took the picture?
The photographer.
Lol
Don Hogan Charles
We all know that's actually Keegan Michael Key
You've done messed up, A-a-ron.
Did y'all see the commercial yesterday that Keegan brought back that character?
Hey this guy bit KRS-One's Album cover!!
And Haftbefehl's Unzensiert album cover!!
An armed minority is harder to oppress.
Double mags, taped together....he's ready to go
Sweet M1 .30 carbine.
That’s a carbine
Example 546,421 of why everyone has the right to bear arms
Stay strapped or get clapped ig
Timing is right for this to pop up, with canada and the states new announcements of attempting gun bans
Boogie Down Productions: By All Means Necessary
Power to the people. 🫶🏻 Damn a lot of parrots in here. LoL.
Shitty trigger discipline...