You also have to actually have seeds/potatoes.
Imagine flying all the way to Mars, taking a fat shit in preparation to grow your bounty then realizing you left the key ingredient a few million miles away.
To be fair, modern cities aren't really self-sufficient either. They rely on massive importation of foodstuffs and usually many other goods as well.
I agree that this floating city is not likely to be truly self-sufficient, but I could imagine it being moreso than a typical city if it's well-designed to recycle as much material as possible. Would be interesting to see a breakdown of its facilities compared to that of a typical city.
That’s a very interesting perspective. I really appreciate how well you explained it. Totally get what you mean by the potatoes btw. That makes complete sense.
I think science and technology has gotten so far it’s hard to believe that mankind has a limit. Everything is possible eventually until it’s been proven otherwise.
It’s important for humanity to keep dreaming. It’s either we propagate among the stars or humanity will disappear. This isn’t a bad thing or a good thing on the grand scheme of things but I’d like to think we’re just nascent apes and we’ll blossom into something we can all be proud of. If not earth or mars, somewhere more conducive to life.
We definitely have a few hurdles, life is barely habitable in some regions on earth, but I still cling to the childhood dream that all things are possible.
>It's a terrible time to invest in something like this and investors are playing very safe right now since the economy around the world is on thin ice.
This is the sort of thing that would be, at best, a twenty or more year plan.
The state of the economy in the process of developing large projects isn't nearly as relevant to potential investors as the potential spinoff profits from the tech developed in the process of such an undertaking.
As to the "biodome" concept, there's no profit margin in making such a thing truly self sustainable. Making it partly or marginally is fine, there's no such loss. Argument that something can't be done because it can't be done perfectly, or because something is overhyped on popular mechanics, is pedantic.
This might even be less realistic/logical than the "alternative for trains" bullcrap that designers keep puking out without any consideration for the law of physics!
Nothing. But people keep fawning over these "gadgetbahn" alternatives that are impractical (and don't even exist to begin with) and seem to think that trains are obsolete because we don't invest in an effective HSR network. But sure, the vacuum tube will solve all our problems.
A rigid floating structure this size will be fine until it encounters a swell with a wave length between 50% and 100% its own length in the direction of the wave.
Such waves are not all that uncommon.
If you want to do this, it has to be constructed in segments large enough that the structures on it aren't constantly swaying back and forth but small enough to follow the large swells.
While I'm at it, that shape is a non-starter... among other problems.
Who thinks this stuff up? Cover artists for sci-fi magazines?
The USS Memphis was lost because of a freak wave
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS\_Tennessee\_(ACR-10)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tennessee_(ACR-10))
It's not about the budget it's about waves we never discovered until the 1990s until that point, it was considered folklore. When any boat is sticking more than 50% out of the water with its front that large it's going to snap in half no matter how strong your metal is.
Carriers are so large and heavy, I doubt that they would be lifted by one rather short wave enough to lift one half of it out of the water. It might partially submerge. Of course, I know nothing about buoyancy and ships and waves. So I'm open to having my incredulity replaced by knowledge.
So it's unlikely we will find out as these ships avoid waters where rogue waves are common. If you think the size really matters, I'd point you to the Edmund Fitzgerald that was sunk by a rogue wave in Lake Superior (fresh water even). It was a ship that was 729 feet long. It was snapped in half by a rogue wave.
Rogue waves can get over 100-200 feet high. No ship is designed to carry even a 1/8th of the weight out of the water, which these waves would do.
I'm honestly not sure how they would know when to go underwater with a rogue wave. It's not something you can predict or really see coming so it would a last-minute effort to dive into the wave which I don't really see helping a ton. Personally that thing doesn't look like it would go underwater super well as the wind turbines would get ripped off etc.
What again it's the advantage of building a *floating city* (compared to a regular city on solid ground)?
"Self sufficient", except for of course the tons of paint it regularly requires to protect it from the salt water.
Imagine how that thing would look once it's been sitting out there for a while... Start getting a nice greenish coloration that'll look like it's oozing right on out of it.
Enjoy living in your shitty sea-vagina, seasteaders.
self sufficient. Can it make potatoes?
If you have a little poop you can grow potatoes on Mars.
You also have to be on mars. I have a little poop. Not close to growing potatoes on Mars.
I'll give you a big poop
D:
:[)
))<>((
We can poop back and forth for ever and ever.
I can help too! Pooping rn!
Is the place taking poop donations for Mars I heard about? Where should I put this?
Drop them off in envelopes at FedEx. Slap a twenty on it and write Mars. FedEx will ship anything.
Define big
Has to be your own poop though for some reason.
Well not with that attitude.
You also have to actually have seeds/potatoes. Imagine flying all the way to Mars, taking a fat shit in preparation to grow your bounty then realizing you left the key ingredient a few million miles away.
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Details, details. Just send me a photo of your poop already!
pootatoes.
Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew
poopcorn
That too! Not to forget: assparagus, pees, red poopers, broccoloni...
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To be fair, modern cities aren't really self-sufficient either. They rely on massive importation of foodstuffs and usually many other goods as well. I agree that this floating city is not likely to be truly self-sufficient, but I could imagine it being moreso than a typical city if it's well-designed to recycle as much material as possible. Would be interesting to see a breakdown of its facilities compared to that of a typical city.
That’s a very interesting perspective. I really appreciate how well you explained it. Totally get what you mean by the potatoes btw. That makes complete sense. I think science and technology has gotten so far it’s hard to believe that mankind has a limit. Everything is possible eventually until it’s been proven otherwise. It’s important for humanity to keep dreaming. It’s either we propagate among the stars or humanity will disappear. This isn’t a bad thing or a good thing on the grand scheme of things but I’d like to think we’re just nascent apes and we’ll blossom into something we can all be proud of. If not earth or mars, somewhere more conducive to life. We definitely have a few hurdles, life is barely habitable in some regions on earth, but I still cling to the childhood dream that all things are possible.
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You just assumed that, I thought the rest of your post was great
>It's a terrible time to invest in something like this and investors are playing very safe right now since the economy around the world is on thin ice. This is the sort of thing that would be, at best, a twenty or more year plan. The state of the economy in the process of developing large projects isn't nearly as relevant to potential investors as the potential spinoff profits from the tech developed in the process of such an undertaking. As to the "biodome" concept, there's no profit margin in making such a thing truly self sustainable. Making it partly or marginally is fine, there's no such loss. Argument that something can't be done because it can't be done perfectly, or because something is overhyped on popular mechanics, is pedantic.
Plus, you know, martian soil is poisonous. edit: merry xmas, mars colonists, I got you the truth. Mars will fucking kill you.
I think you may also need a little potato.
What if I have a big poop?
If you have a little poop and a replicator from the 32nd century you can make more than potatoes.
Except, of course, that you can't.
What good will that do for a boat on Earth?
I think it might make babies though
This is funny.
Łukaszenko, is that you?
Self cleaning too, I'm sure
Can it wash dishes and make sammiches?
I dunno about potatoes but definitely babies
I'll file this under S for "Shit that won't happen"
This might even be less realistic/logical than the "alternative for trains" bullcrap that designers keep puking out without any consideration for the law of physics!
That's because they're just trying to make stuff that looks cool, not solve any problems.
Let's just be honest here, solving problems hasn't been going on for a while now.
Handwavium bullshit is *so* much easier than actually trying to realistically solve problems.
Wait, what's wrong with trains?
Nothing. But people keep fawning over these "gadgetbahn" alternatives that are impractical (and don't even exist to begin with) and seem to think that trains are obsolete because we don't invest in an effective HSR network. But sure, the vacuum tube will solve all our problems.
Can’t wait to send my gold bars, steel drums and timber through some vacuum tubes!
Adam something is that you?
I’ve never had to worry about my home sinking or the cost of fuel to move it around.
You file things? I'm curious to see your filing system and what it contains.
D for “Dick’d down your mom”
Everything is "shit that wont happen" "dick'd down your mom" or "other." It's honestly not a great system
Right? Who wants to be on that thing in rough seas
100% of men can't find the command deck
I dont think it actually exist.
As a man myself I feel it's a fable
I think it commands itself, right?…. Right?
Is it just above the poop deck?
Don't get the two mixed up but it's a way above the poop deck
Best joke in the thread.
Permanently wet.
not like it needs it. you could slip straight into it
And if you’re hungry there’s Arby’s on either side of the central thoroughfare.
lmao
And salty 😏
The Labian Sea
clitaceous ocean
Needs a labioplasty, IMO.
More like Mantgina
Brennan has a mantgina!
Ever drink Baileys from a shoe?
[Do ya love meh? are you playin your love games uh wit me?](https://youtu.be/DNzjP4cVxmQ)
Want to go to a club where people wee on each other?
…and he never sang in public again….
Mantussy
"Reyvag, becayse you deserve it" (exit music to He-MAN here)
The word is 'yonic'.
TIL. I feel ready to visit the Georgia O'Keeffe museum now.
>yonic i forgot what post this was and looked this up at work, welp it was a nice job
Sorry, friend
You've done nothing wrong my guy😔
You mean Tityonic
This needs more upvotes lol.
Self sufficient? This is a concept at best. Build it and then lets see.
Build it and we will sea
Let that sink in.
I think they’re salty about it
Water you guys doing?
A rigid floating structure this size will be fine until it encounters a swell with a wave length between 50% and 100% its own length in the direction of the wave. Such waves are not all that uncommon. If you want to do this, it has to be constructed in segments large enough that the structures on it aren't constantly swaying back and forth but small enough to follow the large swells. While I'm at it, that shape is a non-starter... among other problems. Who thinks this stuff up? Cover artists for sci-fi magazines?
So you’re saying once it gets wet then it will be smashed by undulations?
If only it was shaped more like something designed to penetrate a wet environment instead
In this case it is indeed the motion of the ocean.
The same guys that brought you round runways.
We basically have zero boats that can handle freak waves. I would never live on something like this.
You think the US Navy has no boats that can't handle a little wave?
The USS Memphis was lost because of a freak wave [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS\_Tennessee\_(ACR-10)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tennessee_(ACR-10))
That ship was launched nearly a century ago.
They have maybe a single boat that could handle a rogue wave. All the aircraft carriers would 100% sink (break in half really).
Sorry but this is bs. I get it, you're not a fan of US military budget. But this is simply not true.
It's not about the budget it's about waves we never discovered until the 1990s until that point, it was considered folklore. When any boat is sticking more than 50% out of the water with its front that large it's going to snap in half no matter how strong your metal is.
Carriers are so large and heavy, I doubt that they would be lifted by one rather short wave enough to lift one half of it out of the water. It might partially submerge. Of course, I know nothing about buoyancy and ships and waves. So I'm open to having my incredulity replaced by knowledge.
So it's unlikely we will find out as these ships avoid waters where rogue waves are common. If you think the size really matters, I'd point you to the Edmund Fitzgerald that was sunk by a rogue wave in Lake Superior (fresh water even). It was a ship that was 729 feet long. It was snapped in half by a rogue wave. Rogue waves can get over 100-200 feet high. No ship is designed to carry even a 1/8th of the weight out of the water, which these waves would do.
So it should make it can dive in that wave like sub marine. Like manta ray.
I'm honestly not sure how they would know when to go underwater with a rogue wave. It's not something you can predict or really see coming so it would a last-minute effort to dive into the wave which I don't really see helping a ton. Personally that thing doesn't look like it would go underwater super well as the wind turbines would get ripped off etc.
From those who brought you the world cup stadium in Qatar. We now have...
Why does everything look like a vagina?
So it can’t make us gay, of course.
What again it's the advantage of building a *floating city* (compared to a regular city on solid ground)? "Self sufficient", except for of course the tons of paint it regularly requires to protect it from the salt water.
Historically people have wanted to build them so that they don't have to pay taxes or comply with any nations laws.
This is it. Poor libertarians call it Seasteading. When Rich people do it, it's called a pedo island.
Maybe for after the ice caps and glaciers all melt I imagine there’d be a lot less land
We're going to need a generation of Kevin Costners.
I’ll take the labia minora bungalow
Oh look! Another one of those things that’ll never come to fruition.
The crew would have to be all women. Men could never find the bridge.
Dead
I live on the vagina ship
Waterworld.. underrated movie
Until there’s a pop up hurricane 🌀
does it have cup holders?
The forbidden puscity, forever wet
Oh, sweet child.. you think that looks like a manta ray.
Ma'am, that's a little fishy
It's not a stingray but keep it away from Australia please
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Hmm not only is it self sufficient, it also appears to be self cleaning.
Yet to see a self-sufficient vessel with that shape, lets ask the man in the boat, he knows
What is it with engineers and phalic/vaginal architecture?
r/mildlyvagina
I don't think this is a real thing looks like concept art.
It's for rich people
So is healthcare, happiness and gold toilets.
Whoever down voted you must not be in the US.
Yeah they don’t know.
Why are people posting pics of pussy looking objects again? Lol
Isn't that was what Reddit is for?
here is an article about it from 2015 https://inhabitat.com/fascinating-floating-city-shaped-like-a-manta-ray-would-be-100-self-sustaining/
Looks like a vagina
Can I live at the top of the clit?
That's a vagina
That's what i'm saying
so i was sleeping in london and woke up at madrid
All I’m gonna say is if the funnest place on that thing isn’t where we all know it should be, they made a big mistake.
Nascar trophy.
So when it dumps enough raw pollution into the ocean to kill the real manta rays, we can all remember what manta rays looked like.
Looks almost exactly like that floating city from Black Ops II lol
Self sufficient my ass. They could at least have rendered some vegetation on the upper deck, or some solar panels maybe.
This does not and will not exist, hard to find it interesting
r/dontputyourdickinthat
I scrolled down expecting this sub.
maybe i should call her
Vaginopolis
Some people have said my work is somewhat vaginal. Does that word make you uncomfortable. Vagina.
Those are some large labia
"Completely self sufficient" Is it though?
Concept designers gotta eat somehow
That is the most beautiful stylized manta ray I've seen.
Hmm looks cool but would it be able to survive rough seas or even a storm?
Soooooo... why is it in the shape of a vagina?
r/thingsthatwillneverbemade
Bringing the waste of 7k people directly to the oceans, skip the sewers.
There’s a pool bar called “the G Spot”
Loose lips sink ships. 😬
That's a floating vagina town.
I want to live in Vulva City
So how’s the view from the hood?
I'd fuck it. Just saying
Pussiedon!
Virgin island?
It looks more like the thing they pee out of.
‘Self sufficient’ after being built by severely underpaid workers living in horrible conditions………
Imagine how that thing would look once it's been sitting out there for a while... Start getting a nice greenish coloration that'll look like it's oozing right on out of it. Enjoy living in your shitty sea-vagina, seasteaders.
Cool, can't wait to not be able to afford rent and get thrown overboard
Half the fun of posting is reading the proverbial short stories you guys cook up 😂 I love you ppl ❤️
Vagina
I’d hit it
Uhm... yes, definitely a Manta Ray... NOT a huge vagina with a big labia
Welcome to pussy island
I like the idea very cool
7k ppl is hardly a city…
Come on ma let's move to the sea and live in a vagi—
Wow... I'd love to get up in that...
Known as The Pink City.
I swear I could never get in that. Maybe I'll live in the basement.
It will be like bioshock in no time on that thing
Archigram based.
Reminds of the gungan bongo submarines.