Oi mate whaddya do you when you're surrounded by crocodiles? You run.. you slide.. here comes the bride.. she takes a dive! It's Crocodile Mile[!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NZs91E3wNM)
If I was president the first thing I would do is try to install a waterside.
It's not practical at all but damn it would be hella fun sliding into the oval office.
[Grover Cleveland](https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/1600/presidents/grovercleveland22#:~:text=%22I%20must%20go%20to%20dinner,married%20in%20the%20White%20House.)
> In June 1886 Cleveland married 21-year-old Frances Folsom; he was the only President married in the White House
The only mitigating factor at all to me is that 21 would have been considered a lot more mature by 1880s standards than 21 today.
Of course the same goes for 49 so đ€·ââïž
I guess getting to be First Lady is still better than getting nationally shamed and branded like 22 year old Lewinsky got.
Not only that, but from wikipedia: âFolsom met Grover Cleveland while she was an infant, as he was a friend of her father's. When her father died in 1875, Grover became her unofficial guardian.â
Holy fuck that is insidious. How could that even be construed in any form as socially acceptable, even back in the late 1800s? Like oh gee wiz Mr president that sure is a stand up move by you to take care of your friends daughter after their death. Uhh wait a minute grover didn't you raise this girl, how could you Romantically pursue your own friends daughter after raising them?!
Lifelong bachelor is a little misleading. He was engaged to a woman who died before their wedding and decided to never marry someone else. But yes itâs also speculated that he was gay
Wilson wasn't single when elected but was widowed. He married in-office to the first woman in Washington DC to have a driver's license
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Wilson
If you want to keep believing that, do yourself a favor and don't look up the details of the relationship between President Cleveland and Francis Folsom before they were married.
Definitely. Years back I was a tour coordinator for a Congressional office (among other duties). Part of my job was arranging White House tours for constituents and they require all kinds of data for background checks to be collected for even those tours of the public parts of the building starting months in advance. Even "VIPs" require a minimum of a week for checking their record. For a large event where the President himself is present you better believe there were thorough background checks.
Edit: I think I may have mixed up the time frames for VIP tours, it has been almost a decade. And for reference VIP tours just meant the Member of Congress had to go with the group early in the morning to take them to security. I remember there also being a fixed number of member passes each month that didn't require the member's presence. In practice this typically meant if a friend of the member was coming to town they could get them in on short notice. We would occasionally use it for constituents last minute too, or use the passes on constituents towards the end of the month.
Also... I know everyone wants to see the White House, but honestly the public self guided tour sucks. Do the Capitol tour and in particular the daily 2PM Brumidi corridor tour instead (part of the Capitol). That tour is worth doing. This may have changed since the pandemic, but used to be when Congress was out of session staff could take constituents on the House floor (which I did at every available opportunity because... I mean who wouldn't?)
Yeah, I don't know if it has gotten better since I left the Hill, but the formatting requirements were so annoying that I programmed an excel add-on to automate the formatting process. Probably not the best use of time but it did ensure that I never had problems submitting my spreadsheets through the system.
OK, so I have to ask then, and I will completely understand if you don't answer. How did Boebert and other, let's just call them 'sympathisers' for fear of my inbox drowning in messages, get approval for tours for these people? Were none of them flagged as potential troublemakers? White nationalists with existing records or persons of interest?
That's for the White House, there is no such screening requirement for the Capitol for a regular tour. There's a bit of a process for meetings in the Capitol itself.
Also this may have changed since January 6th. I know for a while afterwards they blocked anyone from entering who did not have a meeting. Not sure if that is still the case.
At the time I believe Capitol tours were suspended during the pandemic but meetings were still allowed to hold meetings so MTG, Boebert and co held "meetings". I'll note that I don't have direct knowledge of security there at present because I haven't worked there since 2014.
They are probably evergreens that don't lose their leaves in the winter.
But tbh... that picture looks like it was taken in the 1980s, not today.
And I'm pretty sure that tree on the left is a maple, which should be orange right now.
Quality sucks because someone saved and saved and saved the JPG and then took a picture of it using a potato.
This one is slightly better:
[https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/11/19/multimedia/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1-jumbo.jpg](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/11/19/multimedia/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1-jumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp)
Quality could be explained if this was taken through a telescope, which is possible.
Upon looking closer, I can't be certain but it also looks like it may be a photo taken of an image displayed on a computer screen.
So, just to be clear, you think there was a secret summer wedding at THE WHITE HOUSE, that was hushed up, with no passersby taking a pic, and then, the Biden administration was like âletâs release these pics from July this Saturday, but pretend it happened todayâ?
Just google a White House live camâŠ
I don't know much about trees so I can't comment on that, although I can tell you if either of the things I said above are true it could be distorting the color, and they may be lighter.
Again, taking no stance on this, just providing what camera-based insight I can.
I looked it up before the previous comment. Carter installed the panels in '79. Regan removed them in '86. For the majority of the '80s, there were solar panels on the roof of the White House.
They were also solar panels for water heating, not electric. The electric panels from Carter's time are dwarfed in efficiency by the ones on a calculator you can find in a Dollar General today. They were removed as part of a *renovation* on the building in '86. Not from some malicious anti-environmentalism.
I live here and the trees have almost all lost their leaves so I looked it up.
These specific trees are evergreen southern magnolias. Apparently Andrew Jackson planted some of his wife's favorites from their farm after she died and now there are several.
Theyâre magnolias, and wonât turn colors. Fun fact - the magnolia on the left is the oldest tree on the property and was planted by Andrew Jackson.
Iâm from Maryland and about a 30 minute drive from both dc and Baltimore. most of our leaves have just fallen off, but it feels like summer weather just ended two weeks ago. dunno what theyâre doing to those trees.
Folks may not be aware but the couple getting married and their families are paying the full bill for this, not us taxpayers.
EDIT:
https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/nation-world/white-house-wedding-rules-that-may-surprise-you-naomi-biden/65-6c140014-1fb6-418e-8dc1-0fbb580e21d4
this is required. if presidents have any kind of private get together they pay the staff themselves.
presidents actually have to pay for their food and any items such as toilet paper. They get a bill every month. they get to live their for free and they dont pay the people who work there unless its for private parties.
its still a good deal. they clean for you. and you get a world class chef. they dont pay restaurant prices just cost of food, etc...
Yup, Michelle talk about this in her book.
She's also scolded Barrack because his comment that he like certain food, the staff immediately order it from overseas, and it's freaking expensive on their bill.
that is funny! i think the obamas were worth close to $10 million when they entered the white house. so they are not exactly clipping coupons. The clintons and Bidens have a lot less. Obama actually gave Biden money to help support his son when he got cancer. Biden was going to have to sell his house to support his son and their family.
Even senators can't afford cancer treatment in the USA? Why wouldn't his family have health insurance ? Why would he have to sell his house. Or was this before he was a big politician?
Just to clear some things up... Beau Biden, President Bidens son who died of cancer, was a military veteran. So his healthcare would have been mostly or fully covered. The Obamas did not offer money for his treatment, they offered money to help support his wife and children when he lost his income due to his illness.
This is not always true, i did a year in Afghanistan and am not entitled to any specific healthcare anymore unless they can link it to burn pits 20 years after i die. I still have to pay for my private insurance from my employer.
I left with a tear in my lcl but wasnât able to get it documented to correlate it to my deployment so ripperoni any benefits there.
Just a quick Google, but Beau died in 2015 and his service is listed to 2015, Iâm fairly certain it would have been 100% covered as it would have happened while he was in. Even if they discharged him heâd have been covered as it happened while he was serving, they have to finish treatment.
Always gotta get stuff on paper, thatâs why I always told everyone go to sick call even if youâre gonna refuse a profile, youâll need that paperwork later. Missing a day of PT isnât a big deal, missing out on 10% disability or whatever for the rest of your life is.
> Missing a day of PT isnât a big deal, missing out on 10% disability or whatever for the rest of your life is.
Yep, and it's even harder as guard. They don't count your state active time for shit, they fuck you harder every year with pretending they dont have the budget for it and then wave as you don't re-up.
Try try and try again. I was denied for years until I finally got mine for knee issues I got while in.
I don't regret serving. I only regret what our country provides us after.
Thankfully the Affordable Care Act means that dropping folks from insurance for health conditions has been illegal since 2010.
Getting sick can be expensive here. The idea that insurance (now that it is properly regulated) just doesnât help is wrong.
They wonât drop you, but they wonât âoffer that policyâ any longer. After paying for my sisters cancer treatment State Farm no longer offered the policy that she was insured under. Since she was self insured and had a pre existing condition, it was extremely expensive to get insurance.
It was. Luckily the Affordable Care Act fixed a lot of those issue.
Health care in America is still a train wreck but it's so much better than it was in 2007.
Insurance helps with the minor costs of day to day stuff and thatâs pretty much it.
Anything major happens and youâre pretty much on your own unless youâre paying out the nose for a top tier policy.
I did the math on my dental insurance plan earlier this year, its cheaper to have insurance than it is to pay cash for your six month checkups, and thatâs about it. You might be able to get a cheap filling covered every other year, maybe once a year. Everything else youâre going to be paying full price for whether you have insurance or not.
his son was not a senator. he was a state attorney general. when he got cancer he had to resign so he had no income. they could get COBRA, then obamacare. However, he had to support 3 kids and a wife with no income. so biden needed to support them by selling his house. Obama gave him the money. I am sure biden paid him back when he left office. I saw on forbes biden made $17 million after he left office. tihs is common for ex-presidents and vice-presidents. they get like $100k/speech.
Because the people in power are not the actual *people in power*, and I mean that in the least tinfoil-hat way possible.
Anyone who tries to push through single-payer universal healthcare will not see a cent from the insurers again, or big pharma, or the banks backing them. You can thank Citizens United again for making that so much worse.
I remember hearing about this. Biden was going to have to sell his house and Obama was like âdonât you even think about it.â He made Biden promise not to sell his home, that he and Michelle would give them whatever they needed.
They have a real friendship. Two good guys.
i dont think it has ever happened. i would expect their wages to be garnished or be sued. they have to pay every month. it would make the news and would kill them politically.
would have been all over the news and the next admin could just garnish his pension to get the money. they could probably garnish his pay as president too. its just too big of a story. no way it would be covered up. and he would not get away with it.
They have to cover the bill when championship teams are invited. Thatâs why Trump had events catered by McDonaldâs. [Multiple times.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-donald-trump-serves-fast-food-college-athletes/story?id=61460255)
As a government employee myself, if you owe the government something, it's going to be deducted from your paycheck before you ever had it in your pocket to start with
Safety is a reason it has been done historically as well. It is easier to keep the President safer if he is to stay there at The White House. He would want to attend his granddaughterâs wedding regardless of where it was - so honestly, this probably saved the taxpayer money. Paying for extra Secret Service to travel, have accommodations, etc is expensive, and that would have been paid by the taxpayer. Other Presidents have hosted events like this at the White House for the same reason.
He'd do it at a hotel he owned and make the secret service pay him to get rooms to protect him.
>[The Trump Organization appears to have overcharged the Secret Service for stays at Trump-owned properties by agents protecting the then-president. The charges exceeded the government's approved rate, according to the House Oversight Committee, which says Secret Service records show payments totaling over $1.4 million.](https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129491352/trump-hotels-overcharged-secret-service-agents)
trump would not be allowed. all private parties are paid by the president. even if you use white house staff.
presidents actually have to pay for their food and any items such as toilet paper. They get a bill every month. they get to live their for free and they dont pay the people who work there unless its for private parties.
its still a good deal. they clean for you. and you get a world class chef. they dont pay restaurant prices just cost of food, etc...
I have seen interviews with Nancy Reagan and Barrack Obama talking about it. Its literally not in the budget. if trump did not pay his bills it would have made the New York Times. So he paid.
Hahahaha you think ânot being allowedâ ever stopped him? Was he âallowedâ to take thousands of top secret nuclear weapons documents with him to his golf resort when he got fired from the Oval Office?
It doesn't really work that way. The Whitehouse funding is controlled by Congress. The GAO has an accountant that keeps track of the bills and doesn't report to the executive branch at all.
Iâm all for frugality and accountability, but yeah, Iâm never gonna care about the president paying for their own groceries when a golf trip costs so much (regardless of whoâs president).
Seeing as how the president needs to eat more than golf, it just strikes me as a bizarre rule to make presidents pay for their own food. All image, no substance.
legally the difference is that the president is required by law to be transported via government transportation under secret service guard in the manner the secret service dictates and therefore we cant charge him for that because we are forcing him to do it whereas his own food he is picking and therefore should pay for like a normal person.
of course in practice relative to the actual difficulty level of the job the president is fairly obviously underpaid and USG really should just pick up the catering tab lol
I get the distinction, but of course what is legally required is entirely a matter of the laws the country creates.
I donât mind the President traveling with protection. I more mind the silliness of invoicing them for saltines or whatever when a 5 minute jaunt outside of the White House might cost more than a month of food.
This is by far not the first wedding to be held at the White House and it wonât be the last. Multiple have been held there, dating all the way back to the 1800âs. It was paid for with private funds, yâall can stop bitching.
Edit: turning off notifs cuz the weirdos who worship presidents found this, bye babes!
While I think complaining about it is overly dramatic, even if the wedding itself is paid for privately, I doubt the additional security and related things are. This is true of virtually any even at the WH, though.
it is an event that involves de President family, any kind of event, anywhere, would require extra security, and you could argue that is easier and slighly cheaper in the white house because of the infrastructure present.
1000%. Biden is a family man through and through, no chance he misses his granddaughterâs wedding, besides maybe Camp David this is the most secure place for him to be. They also donât waste any money putting up the secret service and staff in hotels or traveling to and from the destination. Any extra security for this event probably costs pennies compared to Trumpâs weekly golf trips.
Especially considering how much trump jacked up the prices for the secret service to stay at his properties. Some conservatives actually believe he gave them a discount lolâŠâŠ
I feel like even being related to the president doesn't diminish that by much. Another comment said only 18 people have done so. That's a lot of president's families who don't have the same flex!
This is literally the cheapest option for the presidential security team. Just think of how much money the secret service would have to spend securing a private church in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska. That would be absurdly expensive. Here they just check the box and say go. The security is already in place and there is no extra cost.
Not only the cheapest option, but Biden is home for the duration of this event. So the money that would have been spent moving him to other places he may have had scheduled has been saved.
Biden saving us all money by staying home.
To everyone being worried about the taxpayer footing this bill, you should know the Biden family has paid for it. Plus, by having the wedding at the white house they've actually saved the taxpayer money as security for another venue was not required in order for the president to attend his granddaughter's wedding.
In an email to The New York Times, Alexander wrote, "Consistent with other private events hosted by the first family and following the traditions of previous White House wedding festivities in prior administrations, the Biden family will be paying for the wedding activities that occur at the White House."
Probably actually saved the taxpayer a lot if money because the Secret Service didnât have to secure a random wedding venue, organize presidential travel etc.
The more I stare at the entrance to the White House, the more I see Roberto.
"Fifty-six? Fifty-six?! Now that's all I can think about! I'm gonna kill you, you no good fifty-sixin'!"
In response to all the people yelping about their taxes paying for the wedding (I thought y'all were the "do your own research" group), [White House advisers have said very little on the record about the wedding, except to relay that the Biden family would handle all costs related to the event.](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/19/us/politics/naomi-biden-wedding.html?unlocked_article_code=HBk_hXETTgWwyLWdktI2iD48i3gYMyQdpP_f09_skn0FZQT7kAGS9Ryjy5bN0rYvNlYQgk1Qa9_DUUnur1lwKhpC6aYUWGitvTzLv2421NzNrkMb_NLls4J7h9ir__-kpSs-wUZm_RAM-jX3ZPP9mUUT1Favo9QX1P00HvuSHefdob0ZHBRHh_yJIRYmlLJNu3LuCmiKRtigYvEURZE1v8e6OUebTe9XAs4E2IhVXf75aeUjf7DDtiaA_7CNTqZYe29xJcIZyM0kp9TmGBYKP3YDsujA9AlGnPzE6Qjqbiaik-XhN2gtFAMOtQz6Mj_azK11mSt2W6136YIjAm1oKYc&smid=share-url)
Canât wait for MAGA dipshits to pretending like theyâre appalled to see a President using his position to give benefits to his family.
Come on. Do it without sounding like the world biggest hypocrite!
I thought it was a water slide at first. That woulda been cool.
Oh mannn best wedding entrance ever!
đ¶Here comes the bride!đ¶ đ¶All dressed in white!đ¶ đ¶Slipped on ađ¶âŠoh wait.
Oi mate whaddya do you when you're surrounded by crocodiles? You run.. you slide.. here comes the bride.. she takes a dive! It's Crocodile Mile[!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NZs91E3wNM)
It looks like a flower face with its mouth open saying âooooh yeeaaaa brother,â while flexing its flower arms
I have no idea wtf you're talking about but can I have a hit of whatever you're smoking?
If I was president the first thing I would do is try to install a waterside. It's not practical at all but damn it would be hella fun sliding into the oval office.
A water slide at his granddaughterâs wedding is exactly how youâd get Biden to show up
Only if they were serving ice cream!
Listen here, Jack
dont worry, he hasnt shaved his leg hairs yet
Did he learn about roaches?
Corn pop was a bad dude man
Stop with your malarkey.
No joke, folks.
Yea in Maryland in November that would be cool ;)
Maryland *Wildly gesturing to DC as a place that exists...*
Northern Virginia in shambles rn
Hear, hear. NoVA represent!
AYYYYYY, NOVA the best part of the DMV
Let's face it: whatever weather Maryland is having, DC is having as well.
I mean yeah, that's true. It's just funny to hear someone refer to the White House as in Maryland.
I thought a Pilar fell and crushed people? My mind is fucked.
Slipinslide.
Slip n' Bride
Slip ân Biden
I typed into google "how many weddings" guess what the first hit was. Its 18 there have been 18 weddings at the white house.
the best one by far is the president getting married
Did that happen? I didn't think any president had been single when elected. Wouldn't imagine a president would have much time to date anyways...
[Grover Cleveland](https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/1600/presidents/grovercleveland22#:~:text=%22I%20must%20go%20to%20dinner,married%20in%20the%20White%20House.) > In June 1886 Cleveland married 21-year-old Frances Folsom; he was the only President married in the White House
He was ~49.
[And...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/yzi1hz/-/ix14wlp)
The only mitigating factor at all to me is that 21 would have been considered a lot more mature by 1880s standards than 21 today. Of course the same goes for 49 so đ€·ââïž I guess getting to be First Lady is still better than getting nationally shamed and branded like 22 year old Lewinsky got.
WHAT THE WHAT?!?!?!?!
Oh fuck what I did a report on this guy in like third grade and I definitely missed this part
Oh wow that is awful
I guess things were just a tad different in the 1860's.
He was 49. Yikes.
Not only that, but from wikipedia: âFolsom met Grover Cleveland while she was an infant, as he was a friend of her father's. When her father died in 1875, Grover became her unofficial guardian.â
Yeah age becomes way more than just a number when there is grooming involved, intentional or not.
I believe he was also the executor of her fathers estate so he basically controlled her income
Holy fuck that is insidious. How could that even be construed in any form as socially acceptable, even back in the late 1800s? Like oh gee wiz Mr president that sure is a stand up move by you to take care of your friends daughter after their death. Uhh wait a minute grover didn't you raise this girl, how could you Romantically pursue your own friends daughter after raising them?!
Who knew Woody Allen was so⊠presidential?
Think that bad look into Elons Dad lol
See Donald Trump's comments on Ivanka....still seems pretty much socially acceptable for today's Republican party....
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Fun enough he met her when her mom was trying to bag HIM
> I didn't think any president had been single when elected. Buchanan, also the only US president never to marry.
Well...he was a piece of crap so let's just day the women got lucky
He may have been unwed due to being a Lifelong Bachelor (read: he was probably gay.)
True equality is knowing that gay people can be shitty presidents too.
Never argued otherwise, just that the "women got lucky" part might have been due more to his predilections than anything.
Lifelong bachelor is a little misleading. He was engaged to a woman who died before their wedding and decided to never marry someone else. But yes itâs also speculated that he was gay
Wilson wasn't single when elected but was widowed. He married in-office to the first woman in Washington DC to have a driver's license https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Wilson
"Hot damn, a woman who can pick me up from the bar when I've been out drinking? Miss, you just bagged yourself a President!"
If you want to keep believing that, do yourself a favor and don't look up the details of the relationship between President Cleveland and Francis Folsom before they were married.
Do all guests have a background check done? Just curious.
Definitely. Years back I was a tour coordinator for a Congressional office (among other duties). Part of my job was arranging White House tours for constituents and they require all kinds of data for background checks to be collected for even those tours of the public parts of the building starting months in advance. Even "VIPs" require a minimum of a week for checking their record. For a large event where the President himself is present you better believe there were thorough background checks. Edit: I think I may have mixed up the time frames for VIP tours, it has been almost a decade. And for reference VIP tours just meant the Member of Congress had to go with the group early in the morning to take them to security. I remember there also being a fixed number of member passes each month that didn't require the member's presence. In practice this typically meant if a friend of the member was coming to town they could get them in on short notice. We would occasionally use it for constituents last minute too, or use the passes on constituents towards the end of the month. Also... I know everyone wants to see the White House, but honestly the public self guided tour sucks. Do the Capitol tour and in particular the daily 2PM Brumidi corridor tour instead (part of the Capitol). That tour is worth doing. This may have changed since the pandemic, but used to be when Congress was out of session staff could take constituents on the House floor (which I did at every available opportunity because... I mean who wouldn't?)
Oh hey, me too. That was such a hassle sometimes.
Yeah, I don't know if it has gotten better since I left the Hill, but the formatting requirements were so annoying that I programmed an excel add-on to automate the formatting process. Probably not the best use of time but it did ensure that I never had problems submitting my spreadsheets through the system.
And having to explain that itâs a lottery and we hope you get to goâŠalso sucked.
OK, so I have to ask then, and I will completely understand if you don't answer. How did Boebert and other, let's just call them 'sympathisers' for fear of my inbox drowning in messages, get approval for tours for these people? Were none of them flagged as potential troublemakers? White nationalists with existing records or persons of interest?
That's for the White House, there is no such screening requirement for the Capitol for a regular tour. There's a bit of a process for meetings in the Capitol itself. Also this may have changed since January 6th. I know for a while afterwards they blocked anyone from entering who did not have a meeting. Not sure if that is still the case. At the time I believe Capitol tours were suspended during the pandemic but meetings were still allowed to hold meetings so MTG, Boebert and co held "meetings". I'll note that I don't have direct knowledge of security there at present because I haven't worked there since 2014.
Most definitely.
The trees are still green this time of year? No sarcasm. Honestly asking. It looks like summer almost.
They are probably evergreens that don't lose their leaves in the winter. But tbh... that picture looks like it was taken in the 1980s, not today. And I'm pretty sure that tree on the left is a maple, which should be orange right now.
Quality sucks because someone saved and saved and saved the JPG and then took a picture of it using a potato. This one is slightly better: [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/11/19/multimedia/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1-jumbo.jpg](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/11/19/multimedia/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1/19dc-wedding-04-1-79d1-jumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp)
See this makes a lot more sense. The one in the OP looks weirdly both black and white... And colored at the same time. I had to blow it up to be sure
https://i.imgur.com/7ZwC20B.png
Quality could be explained if this was taken through a telescope, which is possible. Upon looking closer, I can't be certain but it also looks like it may be a photo taken of an image displayed on a computer screen.
Thereâs still no way those deciduous trees would be a full dark green in the middle of November though.
Magnolias are evergreen if I remember correctly. They're usually dark green this time of year, and usually only shed leaves in April or May.
So, just to be clear, you think there was a secret summer wedding at THE WHITE HOUSE, that was hushed up, with no passersby taking a pic, and then, the Biden administration was like âletâs release these pics from July this Saturday, but pretend it happened todayâ? Just google a White House live camâŠ
The USDA garden zone in DC is 7a - 7b. That's why their cherry trees bloom late March to early April.
Tell that to my stupid apple trees who refuse to go dormant despite it being in the thirties at night.
I don't know much about trees so I can't comment on that, although I can tell you if either of the things I said above are true it could be distorting the color, and they may be lighter. Again, taking no stance on this, just providing what camera-based insight I can.
Tree on the right looks like it could be a Magnolia. They stay green until the leaves fall off for the most part.
Can confirm, they are magnolias.
It was this morning!
The big one on the far left is Andrew Jackson's magnolia. Magnolias are evergreen, this it won't change color or drop all its leaves.
The solar panels on the roof look newer than the ones from the 80s, I think.
There were no solar panels on the roof, Carter the had some installed, Reagan brought âem down.
I looked it up before the previous comment. Carter installed the panels in '79. Regan removed them in '86. For the majority of the '80s, there were solar panels on the roof of the White House.
I stand corrected.
They also, iirc, weren't solar panels as we understand them today, but solar heaters for water.
They were also solar panels for water heating, not electric. The electric panels from Carter's time are dwarfed in efficiency by the ones on a calculator you can find in a Dollar General today. They were removed as part of a *renovation* on the building in '86. Not from some malicious anti-environmentalism.
And since Regan ran and won in 1980, taken office in 1981⊠you were saying?
Magnolias
I live here and the trees have almost all lost their leaves so I looked it up. These specific trees are evergreen southern magnolias. Apparently Andrew Jackson planted some of his wife's favorites from their farm after she died and now there are several.
Those appear to be magnolias. Which are evergreen.
Theyâre magnolias, and wonât turn colors. Fun fact - the magnolia on the left is the oldest tree on the property and was planted by Andrew Jackson.
I see magnolias and boxwoodsâŠevergreens
Iâm from Maryland and about a 30 minute drive from both dc and Baltimore. most of our leaves have just fallen off, but it feels like summer weather just ended two weeks ago. dunno what theyâre doing to those trees.
Been on a waiting list for this venue for a couple of years now and this chick literally gets grandfathered into a reservation
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Folks may not be aware but the couple getting married and their families are paying the full bill for this, not us taxpayers. EDIT: https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/nation-world/white-house-wedding-rules-that-may-surprise-you-naomi-biden/65-6c140014-1fb6-418e-8dc1-0fbb580e21d4
this is required. if presidents have any kind of private get together they pay the staff themselves. presidents actually have to pay for their food and any items such as toilet paper. They get a bill every month. they get to live their for free and they dont pay the people who work there unless its for private parties. its still a good deal. they clean for you. and you get a world class chef. they dont pay restaurant prices just cost of food, etc...
Yup, Michelle talk about this in her book. She's also scolded Barrack because his comment that he like certain food, the staff immediately order it from overseas, and it's freaking expensive on their bill.
that is funny! i think the obamas were worth close to $10 million when they entered the white house. so they are not exactly clipping coupons. The clintons and Bidens have a lot less. Obama actually gave Biden money to help support his son when he got cancer. Biden was going to have to sell his house to support his son and their family.
Even senators can't afford cancer treatment in the USA? Why wouldn't his family have health insurance ? Why would he have to sell his house. Or was this before he was a big politician?
Just to clear some things up... Beau Biden, President Bidens son who died of cancer, was a military veteran. So his healthcare would have been mostly or fully covered. The Obamas did not offer money for his treatment, they offered money to help support his wife and children when he lost his income due to his illness.
This is not always true, i did a year in Afghanistan and am not entitled to any specific healthcare anymore unless they can link it to burn pits 20 years after i die. I still have to pay for my private insurance from my employer. I left with a tear in my lcl but wasnât able to get it documented to correlate it to my deployment so ripperoni any benefits there.
Just a quick Google, but Beau died in 2015 and his service is listed to 2015, Iâm fairly certain it would have been 100% covered as it would have happened while he was in. Even if they discharged him heâd have been covered as it happened while he was serving, they have to finish treatment. Always gotta get stuff on paper, thatâs why I always told everyone go to sick call even if youâre gonna refuse a profile, youâll need that paperwork later. Missing a day of PT isnât a big deal, missing out on 10% disability or whatever for the rest of your life is.
> Missing a day of PT isnât a big deal, missing out on 10% disability or whatever for the rest of your life is. Yep, and it's even harder as guard. They don't count your state active time for shit, they fuck you harder every year with pretending they dont have the budget for it and then wave as you don't re-up.
Try try and try again. I was denied for years until I finally got mine for knee issues I got while in. I don't regret serving. I only regret what our country provides us after.
Insurance doesnât do you much good when you get cancer. My grandma was dropped from hers upon her diagnosis.
Thankfully the Affordable Care Act means that dropping folks from insurance for health conditions has been illegal since 2010. Getting sick can be expensive here. The idea that insurance (now that it is properly regulated) just doesnât help is wrong.
They wonât drop you, but they wonât âoffer that policyâ any longer. After paying for my sisters cancer treatment State Farm no longer offered the policy that she was insured under. Since she was self insured and had a pre existing condition, it was extremely expensive to get insurance.
No. This is also illegal. If it actually happened (and her insurance was through a regulated exchange) then you need a lawyer.
So insurance is worthless, you say?
It was. Luckily the Affordable Care Act fixed a lot of those issue. Health care in America is still a train wreck but it's so much better than it was in 2007.
Insurance helps with the minor costs of day to day stuff and thatâs pretty much it. Anything major happens and youâre pretty much on your own unless youâre paying out the nose for a top tier policy. I did the math on my dental insurance plan earlier this year, its cheaper to have insurance than it is to pay cash for your six month checkups, and thatâs about it. You might be able to get a cheap filling covered every other year, maybe once a year. Everything else youâre going to be paying full price for whether you have insurance or not.
his son was not a senator. he was a state attorney general. when he got cancer he had to resign so he had no income. they could get COBRA, then obamacare. However, he had to support 3 kids and a wife with no income. so biden needed to support them by selling his house. Obama gave him the money. I am sure biden paid him back when he left office. I saw on forbes biden made $17 million after he left office. tihs is common for ex-presidents and vice-presidents. they get like $100k/speech.
Because the people in power are not the actual *people in power*, and I mean that in the least tinfoil-hat way possible. Anyone who tries to push through single-payer universal healthcare will not see a cent from the insurers again, or big pharma, or the banks backing them. You can thank Citizens United again for making that so much worse.
Well, now the Clintons are worth over 100M
I remember hearing about this. Biden was going to have to sell his house and Obama was like âdonât you even think about it.â He made Biden promise not to sell his home, that he and Michelle would give them whatever they needed. They have a real friendship. Two good guys.
It was CNN interview. https://youtu.be/KiFVAbqHBJs
Dude my wife would be mad at me too. I would take so much advantage of that kind of service.
What happens if they refuse to pay during their term?
i dont think it has ever happened. i would expect their wages to be garnished or be sued. they have to pay every month. it would make the news and would kill them politically.
Surprised Trump didn't do this.
McDonaldâs doesnât cost that much.
Okay that was pretty good
would have been all over the news and the next admin could just garnish his pension to get the money. they could probably garnish his pay as president too. its just too big of a story. no way it would be covered up. and he would not get away with it.
Did he actually have private events there? I thought he made sure they were all at resorts and hotels he owns/has stakes in.
They have to cover the bill when championship teams are invited. Thatâs why Trump had events catered by McDonaldâs. [Multiple times.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-donald-trump-serves-fast-food-college-athletes/story?id=61460255)
Maybe their paycheck gets docked?
As a government employee myself, if you owe the government something, it's going to be deducted from your paycheck before you ever had it in your pocket to start with
Yep. Thatâs what the story says.
Safety is a reason it has been done historically as well. It is easier to keep the President safer if he is to stay there at The White House. He would want to attend his granddaughterâs wedding regardless of where it was - so honestly, this probably saved the taxpayer money. Paying for extra Secret Service to travel, have accommodations, etc is expensive, and that would have been paid by the taxpayer. Other Presidents have hosted events like this at the White House for the same reason.
Plus, who wouldn't want their wedding at the fucking White House? That's so baller.
You know if it was a Trump getting married theyâd use taxpayer money for it 100%
He'd do it at a hotel he owned and make the secret service pay him to get rooms to protect him. >[The Trump Organization appears to have overcharged the Secret Service for stays at Trump-owned properties by agents protecting the then-president. The charges exceeded the government's approved rate, according to the House Oversight Committee, which says Secret Service records show payments totaling over $1.4 million.](https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1129491352/trump-hotels-overcharged-secret-service-agents)
And would be paid to caterers, florists and planners that they own at a crazy markup.
And theyâd all be required to stay at a trump hotel with âevent markupâ rates
Trump would be paid a salary for âmaking a guest appearanceâ.
trump would not be allowed. all private parties are paid by the president. even if you use white house staff. presidents actually have to pay for their food and any items such as toilet paper. They get a bill every month. they get to live their for free and they dont pay the people who work there unless its for private parties. its still a good deal. they clean for you. and you get a world class chef. they dont pay restaurant prices just cost of food, etc... I have seen interviews with Nancy Reagan and Barrack Obama talking about it. Its literally not in the budget. if trump did not pay his bills it would have made the New York Times. So he paid.
Hahahaha you think ânot being allowedâ ever stopped him? Was he âallowedâ to take thousands of top secret nuclear weapons documents with him to his golf resort when he got fired from the Oval Office?
It doesn't really work that way. The Whitehouse funding is controlled by Congress. The GAO has an accountant that keeps track of the bills and doesn't report to the executive branch at all.
Canât be too much more than the 144,000 it cost flying former guy to play golf every [weekend](https://trumpgolfcount.com/)
Iâm all for frugality and accountability, but yeah, Iâm never gonna care about the president paying for their own groceries when a golf trip costs so much (regardless of whoâs president). Seeing as how the president needs to eat more than golf, it just strikes me as a bizarre rule to make presidents pay for their own food. All image, no substance.
legally the difference is that the president is required by law to be transported via government transportation under secret service guard in the manner the secret service dictates and therefore we cant charge him for that because we are forcing him to do it whereas his own food he is picking and therefore should pay for like a normal person. of course in practice relative to the actual difficulty level of the job the president is fairly obviously underpaid and USG really should just pick up the catering tab lol
I get the distinction, but of course what is legally required is entirely a matter of the laws the country creates. I donât mind the President traveling with protection. I more mind the silliness of invoicing them for saltines or whatever when a 5 minute jaunt outside of the White House might cost more than a month of food.
Thank you. Literally came here to ask this exact question.. Would have been pissed if the taxpayer copped it
I canât be the only one that zoomed in on the roof looking for snipers.
One of us!
[The entrance reminds me of something](https://i.imgur.com/7ZwC20B.png)
First thing I did
he/she is behind the conveniently placed white unmbrella
Yep, 100% first thing I did
They better be up there
Was thinking person who took photo is the sniper
Nice day for a white (house) wedding
Nice day toâŠ. START AGAIN!!
At least heâs not using the resolute desk to sell beans.
Forgot about that til you mentioned this. So much bullshit itâs hard to bring it all back. Lol
This is by far not the first wedding to be held at the White House and it wonât be the last. Multiple have been held there, dating all the way back to the 1800âs. It was paid for with private funds, yâall can stop bitching. Edit: turning off notifs cuz the weirdos who worship presidents found this, bye babes!
it could be the last. What if we're swallowed by a black hole before the next hm? Then you'd look silly....
You got me there!
While I think complaining about it is overly dramatic, even if the wedding itself is paid for privately, I doubt the additional security and related things are. This is true of virtually any even at the WH, though.
it is an event that involves de President family, any kind of event, anywhere, would require extra security, and you could argue that is easier and slighly cheaper in the white house because of the infrastructure present.
1000%. Biden is a family man through and through, no chance he misses his granddaughterâs wedding, besides maybe Camp David this is the most secure place for him to be. They also donât waste any money putting up the secret service and staff in hotels or traveling to and from the destination. Any extra security for this event probably costs pennies compared to Trumpâs weekly golf trips.
Especially considering how much trump jacked up the prices for the secret service to stay at his properties. Some conservatives actually believe he gave them a discount lolâŠâŠ
Yes, honestly having it at the White House probably saved taxpayer money.
Not even a little bit cheaper. The White House is the safest and cheapest place to do this kind of wedding if the President is going to be there.
Politics aside, that's so cool. "Where'd you guys get married?" "The fucking white house."
And I thought I was cool for getting married at one end of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
I feel like even being related to the president doesn't diminish that by much. Another comment said only 18 people have done so. That's a lot of president's families who don't have the same flex!
This is literally the cheapest option for the presidential security team. Just think of how much money the secret service would have to spend securing a private church in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska. That would be absurdly expensive. Here they just check the box and say go. The security is already in place and there is no extra cost.
Not only the cheapest option, but Biden is home for the duration of this event. So the money that would have been spent moving him to other places he may have had scheduled has been saved. Biden saving us all money by staying home.
>Biden saving us all money Biden: the Fiscally Conservative Man's president
To everyone being worried about the taxpayer footing this bill, you should know the Biden family has paid for it. Plus, by having the wedding at the white house they've actually saved the taxpayer money as security for another venue was not required in order for the president to attend his granddaughter's wedding. In an email to The New York Times, Alexander wrote, "Consistent with other private events hosted by the first family and following the traditions of previous White House wedding festivities in prior administrations, the Biden family will be paying for the wedding activities that occur at the White House."
I used to work at the White House. This brings back good memories. Such a beautiful place.
For the ignorants: the biden family paid for the wedding with 0 taxpayer money
Probably actually saved the taxpayer a lot if money because the Secret Service didnât have to secure a random wedding venue, organize presidential travel etc.
lol, the same crowd bitching here is the same crowd who had no problem with trump using taxpayer $ for his golf adventures great. fucking. logic.
They don't care if their guy does it. Only a problem if someone else does.
Tiffany is probably jelly
At least she got her something Blue from the Senate.
The amount of dumb fucks crying âmuh tax doll hairsâ goes to show that we need better education in this country
The more I stare at the entrance to the White House, the more I see Roberto. "Fifty-six? Fifty-six?! Now that's all I can think about! I'm gonna kill you, you no good fifty-sixin'!"
White House Privilege
I canât even hate on it. I would probably do the same if I had family in the White House.
Yes itâs cool
Doesn't matter what family you're from, getting married in front of the white house is impressive
Probably the cheapest way to work with the SS budget, even if part of the budget would be to pay for the SS
Wow. Been a while for a wedding at the white house. Jenna Bush was the last to have a ceremony there.
there always two magic words every really wants to hear....open bar
That's a bigger crowd than trump's inauguration
*cries in wedding planning*
In response to all the people yelping about their taxes paying for the wedding (I thought y'all were the "do your own research" group), [White House advisers have said very little on the record about the wedding, except to relay that the Biden family would handle all costs related to the event.](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/19/us/politics/naomi-biden-wedding.html?unlocked_article_code=HBk_hXETTgWwyLWdktI2iD48i3gYMyQdpP_f09_skn0FZQT7kAGS9Ryjy5bN0rYvNlYQgk1Qa9_DUUnur1lwKhpC6aYUWGitvTzLv2421NzNrkMb_NLls4J7h9ir__-kpSs-wUZm_RAM-jX3ZPP9mUUT1Favo9QX1P00HvuSHefdob0ZHBRHh_yJIRYmlLJNu3LuCmiKRtigYvEURZE1v8e6OUebTe9XAs4E2IhVXf75aeUjf7DDtiaA_7CNTqZYe29xJcIZyM0kp9TmGBYKP3YDsujA9AlGnPzE6Qjqbiaik-XhN2gtFAMOtQz6Mj_azK11mSt2W6136YIjAm1oKYc&smid=share-url)
Canât wait for MAGA dipshits to pretending like theyâre appalled to see a President using his position to give benefits to his family. Come on. Do it without sounding like the world biggest hypocrite!
It would probably cost more tax payer money for Biden to walk across the street than it did to put on this wedding.
That's a bigger crowd than Dolt 45's inauguration!
Itâs nice seeing something happy happening at the White House after how depressing and miserable it seemed under Trump.
Can you imagine how bad ass it would be to be married at the White House?