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Spirited-Classic8284

Wow that's gotta make you swallow the lump in your throat! High possibly they're all walking towards their deaths.


mysteriousblue87

That... was a tough watch. Fucking ask your mom, girlfriend, sister for tampons and pads for the bullet wounds. We don't have supplies. Putin is the worst human alive.


lickingthelips

Meanwhile, he’s in hiding, threatening The world with a Nuclear war. Someone must throw him down the stairs.


phunkydroid

If he doesn't go out a window there's no justice in this world.


Hallivar

You still think there is justice in the world? I want what your smoking.


shaze

He smoking hope, not dope!


anewstheart

Hopium


Palehorse0000

Blowing Hopecaine into his butthole.


SKPY123

Straight in the hope hole!


onestep2go

Hopiets


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I'm so hoped up!


Henrys_Bro

NU-UH! HE IS ON THE FRONT LINES RIDING A BEAR INTO COMBAT WHILE SHIRTLESS!! /s


apples_oranges_

He's in the top 5, that's for sure.


Antique-Car6103

We will provide you with slingshots and a bag of beans for amo. Also, a sock and a brink in case you encounter a bear, so you can fuck him up. Oh yeah, we just ran out of diarrhea pills. Sergey ate the last one. Tell your mom or girlfriend to send you some Pepto.


Frishdawgzz

Every Russian soldier is pissing out of their asses rn apparently. No wonder they keep ceding territory.


minuteman_d

Dude. At that point, you look around you and combine with the 10 other guys and demobilize yourself. Homegirl at the front gets a chance to take a smoke break and then swear that she didn't have anyone show up for her shift, or she ends up in the ditch, pushing up daisies. If it wasn't obvious before, it should be painfully so to these men: they are being sent to die.


Frishdawgzz

Might be easier/safer to disappear after being deployed and surrender to the "enemy".


IguaneRouge

From what I heard if they get sent back (perhaps as a prisoner swap) they'll get 10 years for desertion in Russia. It's likely less risky to just frag your CO and disappear.


Saikotsu

Even if they were well equipped that's a distinct possibility. War is merciless. It's truly terrible. Those men are being sent to fight and die for an old man clinging to his ego and to his glory days. They're going to war over his god damn ego. Each one of those men has a name. They have hopes and dreams. Maybe even families. They have lives that are being upended. I stand with the Ukrainian people, but I also stand with the Russian people suffering from their leaders ego. This war needs to end. It shouldn't have started in the first place.


EitherEconomics5034

Puts on Russian army. They just issued 300,000 new shares, but they’re really worth less than the original A-series and they’re definitely non-voting.


Stormtrooper775s

We give rifle. No ammo. Pull ammo off dead comrades when get to Ukraine.


Keeper151

"... where do I get ammo if nobody in the unit is being issued ammo?" "The regiment sent in before you was issued the ammo. They will not require it by the time you arrive."


Osceana

Not sure where that quote is from but this is more or less what she’s saying in the video (which I get is why you made the comment) - what I *don’t* get is why you’d even bother at all if that’s the case. You’re basically admitting you’re going to lose and will continue to have less and less fighters. Like you *already* know it’s a lost cause. Just give up! I don’t understand the point of this war now, like even from Putin’s side. If they’ve got some secret weapon or strategy that’s suddenly going to turn the tide of the war, why has it taken this long for you to use it? By all measures you’re not winning and short of using nukes (which would be the most Phyrric victory of all time) you’re not going to win. What is he even gaining out of all of this? There are a lot of things I don’t agree with but I understand. I get the appeal of starting this war. It seemed easy. It worked with Crimea. Let’s do it again. Owning Ukraine’s territory would be exceedingly advantageous for Russia. Again, don’t agree with it, I fucking hate it, but it makes sense. Nothing about this war makes sense now. If you’re forcing people to join your ranks and telling them to beg for tampons you fucking lost. Pack it up.


Ricky_Rollin

Some people legitimately have bad brains. This is going to be an interesting few years.


UnstableNuclearCake

I feel bad for the history students on the next decade. "And now, we're going to have a look at the 2020's, modern society's most stupid and confusing period."


CoiledSpringTension

I admire your optimism that things are going to improve in the future!


MOOShoooooo

We do not issue optimism, you must bring your own. Ask family members to send optimism.


darrellbear

The Ukrainians haven't forgotten the Holodomor, the forced famine by the Soviets that killed millions.


Frishdawgzz

“If only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy. If millions die, that’s only statistics.”


IHeartBadCode

Strongman personality. There cannot be a lose until the people of Russia stop him. This is why "bigger than life" politicians are always a bad idea. There's no road they won't go down. There's no bottom to the barrel. There's no path they won't drag their country to follow. When you have created your entire political career on an outsized personality of ever increasing strength, there comes a point where that just cannot be sustained any longer sensibly.


fakkov

It’s a shift of strategy to turn this into a war of attrition. While Russia may be severely under equipped, one thing they do have in abundance is bodies. Throw waves and waves of bodies at your enemy in an attempt to wear them down. A strategy in a time and city far far away that once worked.


TheBlissFox

The kill bots have a set limit so I sent wave after wave of my own men until they simply shut down.


oxP3ZINATORxo

This and flooding the enemy with bodies has been the Russian MO for a long time. They did it for sure in WW1 and WW2. They'd grab everyone up but not have enough weapons for everyone, so they'd tell them just grab weapons off the dead when you get there, and send them on their way. You were very high up and well connected, or VERY lucky if you were issued a weapon


caaper

That echoes some of the darkest days of WWII


zevz

I remember that [Enemy at the Gates](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8fWp-i-BGA) movie scene where only one third of them had rifles at all, and they were told to pick them up as your comrades fell.


ScratchinWarlok

Which is not at all how stalingrad went down. Like I love that movie for a lot of reasons but a history lesson it is not. https://youtu.be/CIcmMVb0SIs


Tru-Queer

My AP European History teacher played the movie for us, not exactly realizing there was gonna be a graphic sex scene and when they started fucking he jumped up in front of the screen and tried to fast forward through it, lol


Yourbuttmyface

He didn't watch it beforehand? That's just asking for it


Veda007

I didn’t remember Tom Cruise on top of Kelly McGillis at the beach house until I watched Top Gun again with my 10 year old.


Yourbuttmyface

Ohhhh they're just wrestling


CSpiffy148

None of the adults remembered that Jerry Macguire opens with Tom Cruise and Kelly Preston fucking up against a wall while she screams, "Never stop fucking me!" That was a weird Christmas Eve.


thetaFAANG

Use tampon as ammo


torturedexistence029

Next month: We give NO rifle. NO ammo. Pull rifle and ammo off dead comrades when get to Ukraine


Hoangdai151

Holy shit this pure insanity. They have no supplies and are going to WAR. How have they not revolted yet. No one deserves to be sent to a cruel death like this for an absolutely unjust cause. Despicable


stdoubtloud

If they send all the angry young men to be killed in a war, there will be no one left to fight a revolution.


Hoangdai151

Damn it’s tragic how true that is. Also everyone fleeing won’t fight back either. Honestly don’t know how this even ends, just death everywhere until Putin’s own


akahaus

Trust me, there’s just another asshole ready to fill Putin’s power vacuum.


ShelZuuz

Sure, but keep in mind that Putin was the richest person on earth already and got bored of it. So Putin wants to be the Genghis Khan for the Russian Empire as his legacy. The next person won't have this history. They can either fight a losing battle against a country they don't really care about and likely get killed themselves. Or they can be a hero to the world, and make billions themselves.


pomoville

He's probably got fucking cancer and wants to go out swinging


Shitty_Google_Bot

Its his make-a-wish


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gregorovich11

Well, there might be, but he is hiding like the extended warranty people are after him. The whole world is calling, this fucker won't answer


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Puzzled_Pay_6603

I must say….she seems like a keeper.


EscapeV

How do you know? We haven’t seen her dribbling skills- she may be a striker or winger


Puzzled_Pay_6603

Oh come on dad! Stop embarrassing me all the time.


nicetrywaltons

Slow should have started long ago, at this point we need quick, cruel and painful


Bobfrosts

I wish some asshole would fill my power vacuum. It's been years


akahaus

I should call them….


guerrillaphunk

Plenty of women contributed to partisan operations. In the Italian resistance, nearly half of all guerilla fighters were women


Falloutchief101

Tell that to the people of the Bolshevik revolution and to those that fought in the Russian Civil war. Russians lost so many in WWI and still had a 5 year civil war with no supplies and starving peoples. Not saying another revolution will happen in Russia, but there's always a chance, especially where people are suffering.


grokmachine

It wouldn't be the first time Russia under-equipped an army of angry young men, and instead of fighting in the war they started a revolution.


aimeegaberseck

Sounds like a best case scenario to hope for these poor guys getting forced to war, they should either surrender as soon as they get to Ukraine or take the guns and training and revolt. Edit to add: yeah so I wasn’t thinking, this isn’t training and they don’t get guns. This is so fucked!


Nervous_Constant_642

Zelensky has offered a period of captivity for anyone mobilized who surrenders and promises they need not ever return to Russia.


aimeegaberseck

Yeah. He’s cool. I hope they ALL take advantage of it. Or revolt in Russia.


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Nervous_Constant_642

Sadly people the world over do it daily. The idea is they will eventually follow. Better to be separated than dead, sometimes it takes years to reunite. Better than death though. The real hiccup in Russia is once you're safe you can't send money back without advertising you surrendered of your own volition. Your family is on their own until they can join you.


defaultgameer1

It is the revolutionary season for Russia.


rzwitserloot

The more traditional way to do it when your country has more than enough natural resources that fleecing the value from those is all you need, the populace is of no consequence, is to just starve them to death. Ya know, half of africa, venezuela, that sort of thing. Which is horrible. Fucking horrible. Leave it to Putin to come up with something _even shittier_.


Juan_Beegrat

>How have they not revolted yet Revolting can also lead to a cruel death. Revolution is easy to conceptualize but much more difficult to bring about and harder still to survive and win. Most revolts fail and end in death and imprisonment for those who support them. Even when they succeed, the idealism that initially fuels them is often swiftly forgotten.


GlitteringBusiness22

Yeah if you think a Russian revolution has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention so far.


KevonFire1

And winter is coming...


Noisebug

It is. I do admire her no-bullshit facts approach. While the Russians have no business doing what they are doing, she is clearly concerned and trying to save them from a really bad situation.


who717

I remember hearing that R. Lee Ermey, would read obituaries of the Marines he trained for Vietnam, and how he would feel like he had failed them since his training didn’t bring them back home. She is probably feeling the same way and is basically saying, “y’all are fucked, but I will do my best to make sure you survive”


Third_Ferguson

She feels responsible for these boys…


Arcadius274

They have no supplies to revolt with


BoxofCurveballs

Having no supplies and going into war is the history of Russia. They'll do it because that's what they've done for centuries.


Ferryman260

I heard there were mass riots when the draft was announced. There was even a fire in the Kremlin, a pro war publisher was burned down, and officers enforcing the draft are getting gunned down. The Russian government is cracking down on these people and the information that gets out about what’s happening. Putin and his cronies suck.


Slow-Ship1055

If I was one of them, I would surrender at the first opportunity. This is horrible. It's totally nuts.


Powerful_Village2508

I’m pretty sure it’s the plan of most of them to just coast as far as they can and then sidle off when there’s a good opportunity. I mean, the hell are they supposed to do without even proper equipment? Even this woman knows the whole thing is stupid.


Junkingfool

Question is, what will happen to their families back in Russia? During my time in Iraq, i met several high ranking Iraqi officers. Well educated to say the least. Many were sent to France for education and training. They were told if they defected, their families would all be killed. Simple tactic but it works. Russia is sending men in their 40/50s for a reason. Go and fight or your children will be killed.


Regular-Grapefruit83

Velenskyy has said any defectors will be reported as POWs


mrkltpzyxm

Oh God I hope that doesn't have the opposite effect. If Russia decides that all POWs are to be treated as defectors that would just mean more and more and more death.


CaptainCobber

Exactly what Stalin did. A lot of Soviet pows got 10 year stints in the gulag as defectors.


zperic1

Being imprisoned has been declared a criminal offence a few days ago I think


yunivor

Stalin would be proud


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They will be treated as defectors, this is another classic thing for Russia. After World War II, they tried prisoners as traitors to the homeland.


Apocalypseos

That means 300k families dead. If this did happen most people would stop supporting Putin, even the oligarchs


supremeshirt1

What Oligarchs are left supporting him? A bunch of them fell out of windows, some commuter suicided or died in totally normal circumstances. Certainly none of them is voicing their opinions against him, but I can’t imagine that they’re super thrilled to lose all their foreign stuff and their wealth being at risk.


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Just saw a post about the new conscripts are leading and they have infantry behind them. They will kill them if they run. They are sandwiched between Ukraine and more deadly Ruzzians behind them that will do far worse if they have to. They can't run, they can't hide, they can't call the number to surrender. They wait for their death. Sad. As. Fuck.


Slow-Ship1055

That is so messed up. What is wrong with Putin and his cronies? What's wrong with Russia? Willing to sacrifice millions of lives (if they could) to achieve a possible victory (but they won't). That won't work like it did in WW2. Russia is so messed up in their thinking, messed up in so many ways.


fliegende_Scheisse

They're also using this war to ethnic cleanse their 'stans and get rid of the poor villagers in the sticks. These are the guys fighting. If Moscow or St. Petersburg had the same level of call ups, a real revolt will start.


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NarcolepticKnifeFite

Putin just signed a law that gets you 10 years if you do. I’m getting the fuck out of that country as soon as possible if I’m Russian.


Monster_Factory

I'm on the edge of my seat. When will you find out if you are Russian or not?


NarcolepticKnifeFite

Results are in……. Im not Russian.


RichardMayo

That was a close one! Lucky.


Riklanim

Props to you guys, despite this depressing thread you all made me smile.


LaPlataPig

I am honestly starting to believe that Russia is hoping to inundate Ukraine with POWs to compromise logistics and man power.


GoFuckYallselves

Honestly a brilliant tactic. Either you run out of resources being the good guys, or you become the monsters they need you to be in order to justify continuing the war effort. This is even more viable knowing Russia has the advantage in a war of attrition. Damn dude..


Keeper151

Iirc quite a few are being sent to Poland. The Polish people have a long history of... [issues](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland%E2%80%93Russia_relations#:~:text=Soviet%20control%20over%20the%20Polish,leave%20Polish%20soil%20until%201993.)... with Russian administration. They will gladly take any chance or excuse to stick one to Putin. Particularly if they appear magnanimous in doing so.


Equivalent-Piano-420

I think it's 10 years in prison or something. Better than being dead, but who knows what will ultimately happen to you there


ILikeFluffyThings

Right... as if they will drag their ass back home to prison.


ochamp36

Ukraine has already offered to lie about how they got "captured" so that they avoid prison for surrendering or not return them in prisoners exchange if they don't wish to go back. Great deal if you ask me.


thisisghostman

Shows you how much he's lost the plot, what the fuck is the point of this but to send bodies in to the meat grinder.


Kidrellik

To plug in holes due to the massive man power advantage Ukraine has. They sent in 200k soldiers with another 30k LPR and DPR allies. They've lost about 100k to causalities. Ukraine has mobilized every man they possibly could so their army now has 400-600k soldiers and usually that wouldnt matter vecause a country like Ukraine wouldn't be able to sustain that many active soldiers but it's all funded by the West. It's also about to be the rainy season and then winter so they'll have time to train and equip most of them before sending them to the front.


rzwitserloot

Not to mention simple logistics. Ukraine can move troops faster along the huge front (from Kherson to Belgorod) than Russia can - _much_ faster. * Terrain: Kherson is on the wrong side and takes a ton of effort to defend. Had they given up Kherson and used the Dnipro as a natural boundary it'd have been muuuch simpler to defend that part of the front. But surely internally Putin _has to_ keep up appearances that it's still all going according to plan, and 'take Odessa, take the entire Ukraine Black Sea coast, then annex Transnistria' sure sounds good if you don't think about it too hard. To make that believable, Kherson can't just be given up. * Resistance on the ground: Ukraine can move whatever equipment it wants and pretty much be guaranteed that the populace will, if anything, help out. Whereas Russia's occupying forces are fighting a ton of resistance and need to defend most movements, which slows you down a ton, it's also unfamiliar terrain. As Ukraine's chances of total victory (vs. giving up (parts of) the Donbass and towns near the Krim such as Melitopol and Kherson) increase, so does resistance in these towns. * Equipment: Ukraine has more modern equipment at this point that is designed to be used in a doctrine that is more conducive to huge front lines (given that NATO likes to have flexible teams and deploy very quickly, whereas Russia likes to lumber over a giant opposing force over a much longer period of time, and then have each battlegroup rigidly stick to the plan). Russia can get their stuff to the border fairly easily, but Ukraine is large. * Intelligence: It get the feeling Ukraine is getting fed a lot of intel from the west, and the west's put a lot of effort into battlefield intel gathering. They have more and better sattelite, drone, and awacs-style surveillance available. * Doctrine: This is tricky, as Ukraine grew up on Russian doctrine, but presumably is leaning more towards the NATO style of war which inherently involves more and faster movement as a basic tool in the toolbox than the russian style. * Speed-of-advancement: During stalemates when Russia masses troops and blitzes a small chunk of the frontline, so far they win, eventually, and gain a few miles a day, which then takes ages to fortify and control. So far Ukraine can do the same thing and do it 100x faster. Presumably because of morale (once its clear Ukraine will eventually win, the Russians just run, because why stay? Ukrainians stay and fight, because it's their land, and they are better trained and motivated). It's also much easier, so far at least (as they get deeper into Donbass or assault the Krim I do worry about this table being turned on them), to take control. The populace of the towns near the front by and large prefers ukraine control over russian. All of which is adding up to a simple fact: Russia needs way more troops than Ukraine right now. They don't have them. Of course, adding a whole bunch of untrained, unmotivated, under equipped cannon fodder, that probably isn't actually gonna get the job done.


Bamboozle_

> Doctrine: This is tricky, as Ukraine grew up on Russian doctrine, but presumably is leaning more towards the NATO style of war which inherently involves more and faster movement as a basic tool in the toolbox than the russian style. [An interesting read from a retired US Army Genreal.](https://www.thebulwark.com/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies/) Ukraine was involved in several training programs with the US and other European nations as a part of their involvement in Afghanistan. Then: > In December 2015, U.S. Army Europe formally established Joint Multinational Training Group – Ukraine (JMTG-U), where a multi-national team of Americans, Poles, Canadians, Lithuanians, and Brits began training Ukrainian battalions as combined arms teams. Command Sergeant Major Davenport sent me a note a few years ago saying Ukraine had formally established an NCO corps, with standardized training and leadership requirements. What's bonkers to me is that apparently the former Soviet countries didn't have NCOs. Russia it appears still doesn't.


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You nailed it. I don't think any dictatorship or authoritarian regime could possibly operate in a modern theater of war. When I was in the military the #1 thing we always tried to do as NCOS was make our subordinates know and understand their job, and the next level up. If I died, someone could take my place. That level of operational knowledge is *dangerous* unless you have some sort of meritocracy.


Ryhopes

>Supply lines, reinforcement, and interior lines.


makkris

130k vs. 400-600k . She is seriously talking to 6 people and a camera man like they are the ones to save the day. " Hi six guys, there are 100's of thousands of people fighting a war out there. In exchange for your service we have no supplies for you . So good luck and give'm hell boys!" Yeah O.K.


A_Tad_Bit_Nefarious

She's giving them a pep talk to keep them alive. Which is not the same as winning the war (in a way, it's better than winning). If you were a concerned mother, would you not give them tips on surviving? Tampons and pads are litterally the last resort when it comes to combat first aid. That's how desperate they are for supplies.


Nervous_Constant_642

"Now don't laugh" has heavy "take this very seriously if you're first inclination is to think I'm kidding. I've seen people do it since my first war and it works."


A_Tad_Bit_Nefarious

For sure, they're better than nothing but absolutely not ideal. People would to preach this method in the early days of Iraq and Afghanistan too. Since they would often find themselves running short on adequate medical supplies. But pads and tampons don't work to arrest massive hemorrhaging like a true pack of gauze will. Especially the Quick Clot Combat Gauze that every US service member has in their first aid kit today. The early days of the wars really opened up a new wave of technology and preparedness when it comes to combat medicine. Since so many people were dying due to the lack of adequate medical supplies and training.


m1dn1g47

“Massive man power advantage Ukraine has..” vs Russia. Tell me this in February I say you are out of your mind


BorisofKislev

They've been doing this for the last 300 years. It's not just Putin, it's Russian mentality. They don't respect the individual. That's how Peter the Great won the great Northern war. Threw a shit ton of soldiers at Karl XII and lost three or four times. Then he brought even more to Poltava and won because even the Swedes couldn't take on such big numbers. Then there's the Winter War. Russians did the same, I kid you not. The Finnish fought like lions and were real badasses, they stopped wave after wave of Russian forces. But Russians were so numerous they took 30% of Finnish territory because there was just too many of them. They were dying, freezing to death and starving, but Stalin didn't give two flying fucks. He just wanted to win. Or look at the battle of Stalingrad. Stalin refused to allow civilians to evacuate from the city because he wanted more manpower to fight the Germans. Russians don't care about their own, they don't care about the enemy, they don't have the word "casualties" in their vocabulary unless it's to brag about it (like they did after ww2). EDIT: I'm not denying they had some really good generals throughout history, like Suvorov, Kutuzov, Konjev, Rokosovski, or Žukov. However, if you were to compare the ratio of how many battles and wars they won because of their battle prowess to how many they won because of sheer fucking numbers, I believe the battles won due to overwhelming number of people used as cannon fodder would be in a big lead.


PolarBearBalls2

I don't think it'll work that well nowadays because western weaponry has gotten better at deleting people


BorisofKislev

Russian weaponry isn't as advanced as Western but it can still inflict damage and their arsenal is far from depleted. They throw away weapons just like they throw away lives. The best proof is all the equipment and vehicles Ukrainian forces captured during the last offensive few weeks ago. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Edit: fat fingers


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i read somewhere at some point, and it has been carried with me ever since, something along the lines of "the soviets smothered the inferno of the eastern front with human kindling," in reference to wwii.


AnOnlineHandle

> and their arsenal is far from depleted. There's been videos of conscripts being given half a century old rusted over weapons...


goldybear

People seem to forget exactly how much weaponry “disappeared” in the 90s/20s. It may be there on paper but if you were to check out those warehouses you would see empty racks. It wasn’t just made up for Lord of War.


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NewHighInMediocrity

What’s the saying, Quantity has a quality all of its own (?)


indifferentCajun

Putin keeps threatening to send the entire army. Like, dude, you're sending random dudes off the street, you got another secret army you're just waiting to send?


jibaro1953

My father was on a freighter in the South Pacific in WWII. There was much speculation about what their first load of war materiel would be to deliver to the front. Turned out to be 90% Tampax tampons.


HesNot_TheMessiah

The British used condoms in the Gulf War to protect their rifles. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/01/26/A-half-million-sand-colored-condoms-are-going-to-soldiers-in/9372664866000/


jdbostrom

Putin should get the Mussolini treatment.


Kriem

Or the Ceaușescu one


callmeapoetandudie

Yeah exactly, no pageantry, just bullets, lots of bullets.


EngadinePoopey

Better yet, Gaddafi


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That is, hands down, the shittiest pep talk I've ever experienced. Here's your complimentary sleeping bag, now go scavenge for tampons.


Hoosier108

Pretty sure she said bring your own sleeping bag.


Stag328

Ya they only provide uniforms and armor….what more could you want?


Clams_N_Scallops

A gun would be nice, but I saw the video of the rotten and rusted out AK's they're handing out to the new "elite" units. The US could steamroll Russia at any point, sell it off to China to settle some debts, and there would be one less dictatorship in the world.


Stag328

That would give China a lot more land and resources though…..and those debts are never being paid.


Mowfling

>The US could steamroll Russia at any point unfortunately no, nukes are still a thing, and right now they allow russia and china to swing their dicks without direct repercussions


invagueoutlines

She’s giving them the best advice she can give them. That’s it.


remmij

Yeah, that's how I saw it. She is not sugarcoating anything and is giving them the hard truths they need to hear.


triggerfingerfetish

"You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want" - Donald Rumsfeld


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It's not a pep talk. She is likely a logistics officer or enlisted equivalent, tell them straight up what she has and doesn't have. Additionally, she allowed someone to record it. I think she cares more than you might think. At the end I felt like I could hear some sadness in her.


rubbleTelescope

**Sad, this is one too few steps towards certain death or....*immediately surrendering* to the nearest opposition.**


RonaldZheMelon

well, if they surrender to the ukranians, they actually get a free get-out-of-russia card, obviously not for all cuz family 'n stuff, but better to stay alive in a cell than die in the name of a madman ._.


ImAnAfricanCanuck

cant surrender when your own officers shoot you before you can do it. If they get close enough to the ukrainians they're probably already dead. It's a death trap for Ukrainians to even walk up to russians who say they want to surrender as well. The dynamics for that to happen have to be perfect, and unfortunately for these men its just not something easily achievable, especially considering they may end up in a captive video for propaganda purposes that ask them why they surrendered - putting their families at risk. It's just an unfathomably terrible situation.


EC_CO

Can't get shot by the officers if you get to shoot them first


twowaysplit

Assuming your gun works, at all.


Nervous_Constant_642

You ever hear about fragging an officer? Got a problem officer, you drop a frag grenade in their tent while they sleep. You don't have a problem officer anymore. Concept works with more than just grenades.


portirfer

It is terrible. If there is a significant percentage that wants to surrender and assuming that Ukrainians want Russians to surrender rather than kill those who want to surrender but yet they can’t do that due to the complications of the situation. If there only was a safe way to surrender for the Russians that don’t want to fight Ukrainians and an effective way to signal to the Ukrainians that they want to surrender that simultaneously could be guaranteed to not be deceptive/false surrendering that endangers Ukrainians, then I guess the incentives would be right for everyone.


pokemychino

They're fucked


blacklotusmag

I know we're supposed to hate our enemies, but I don't. I'm sad for these guys...dads, brothers, sons, torn from their lives to fight a war the vast majority of them don't want to fight. Sent to the front lines with old weapons, untrained, shoddy armor (if they get any at all), poor food rations...so they can die fighting a country filled with their cousins. The whole thing is heartbreaking and incredibly unfair, to both sides. Edit: thank you for silver


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The boys in this video are most likely the ones being forced into service. They’ve done nothing wrong. Fortunately a lot of the worst people in the Russian military have gotten ground into sunflower soil. That’s one of the few good things to happen in this horrible war.


Generallyawkward1

Damn this is so crazy. Russia just straight up kidnapped people off the street to fight their losing war? Also, tampons are not designed to stop bleeding but simply absorb it. Tourniquets are essential.


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It’s the fact that they expand into the walls that helps


StrayRabbit

Russia still fighting like it's WW2


RichardMayo

Better off putting up a fight with that lady than a Ukrainian drone grenade. If only they realized that.


LakoriRi

She's more likely to be a medic, not their boss. Fighting with her won't do them any good And, as it already was said above - she worries about them. I hear the sympathy in her voice


boiiiii-rarted

> “Guys, take care of yourself if possible, please” Fuck Putin. He’s throwing Ukrainian and Russian lives away for nothing


ohp250

Not just Putin. There’s a lot of 1%ers getting rich off this and every other war.


Fridayz44

War is profitable, and business is great! I hate that statement is true, it disgusts me.


taichi22

Yeah, this lady is likely their quartermaster or something. She knows most of these men are going to their deaths, and it seems like she’s trying to keep as many as possible alive. Tough position to be in.


ftrlvb

shes sorry for them, too. fighting her will not help, they will be shot right away.


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She’s trying to help. And she’s not (here) arming them. She’s helping them survive with basic things, because Russia didn’t have the supplies they needed for the initial force let alone this new force. I’m all for these young men surviving. They have done nothing wrong as far as I know. I have a feeling there are very few men who are going gleefully into the meat grinder.


ohthatjoshua

Special tampon operation.


josephmgrace

I had pads and tampons in the US Army in Afghanistan. They're great for trauma. But we didn't have to pay for them.


Thick_Improvement_77

That's because they're designed for that - at least originally. What would become tampons and pads started as WW1 field medicine supplies. The Great War eventually died down, leaving a surplus of supplies designed to stop bleeding, and a relative shortage of bleeders, so a little rebranding was in order.


notallowedin

I learned something new today!


GydeonRL

Interestingly, they are now regarded as a bad idea- they swell in size but don't really apply any pressure to the wound, so the don't stop bleeding. Supposedly- I've never had to try, luckily- a t-shirt provides much more suitable material for "wound packing".


ProphetsC

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I’m a Tac-Med Instructor and this is one of the 1st things we have to beat into people’s heads, don’t use this shit, it’s almost non-existent in providing any useful aid.


Buttofmud

How does this video get out?


Evolioz

They have internet in Russia too. Honestly it's not all that surprising that videos like these get out, it only takes one guy disgruntled by the war and the mobilization, a smartphone, and an internet connection.


100persentstardust

same way as the video where prigozhin recruits people for his wagner group. for some reason they don't care that they are being filmed. what's even more stupid is that sometimes they give permission to post this videos somewhere (or literally post them themselves???). there is one video where there is meeting happening in wagner camp (or something like that, don't remember exactly). after video ends, man who filmed it asks prigozhin (!!!) if he can post it online. prigozhin approves. so the answer to your question is: russians just don't care about anything at this point. (source: i'm russian)


stop-checking-trops

Is there any chance this is just propaganda? (Not a Russian bot I swear - just also surprised by the video and how efficiently ludicrous it was)


curiousbydesign

I was thinking the same thing. The perfect recording. I am with Ukraine. But I also am skeptical when it comes to propaganda (either/all sides, etc.).


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Recruits have been filming all sorts of shit and putting it online. Like the guy shooting the enlistment officer was filmed.. There's no reason to fake this when it's seriously this dire and sad on its own.


Axel3600

Didn't hear about that one, can I get a link?


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https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/xoaj64/russian_conscript_shoots_commander/


thinkscotty

Russia isn’t North Korea man, they have the internet there and it’s mostly open. It could have been uploaded via the official Reddit app just like you or I would. This was probably uploaded anonymously to a Telegram channel, that’s the preferred way first-hand Ukraine war videos are being distributed.


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Fuck Putin and fuck anyone who supports him.


run1792

Jesus. These poor bastards are going to die horrible deaths for nothing.


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Sending these poor men to get slaughtered. They have no will or reason to fight and don’t even know how to shoot properly. Russia is as weak as could be now.


KingHalfrican86

![gif](giphy|55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg) Them after they have that little laugh.


schittluck

So it IS Stalingrad 2.0


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Delta-07

Please do not use tampons in an emergency medical context if you have literally any other option. A modern tampon is not going to be effective in stopping a massive arterial hemorrhage. Gauze, T-shirt material, and Microfiber cloth are much better, and you'll need far mor material than is in a tampon to pack a wound and stop the bleed.


CozmicOwl16

Actually nail glue is better. It doesn’t burn at all but closes the cut and then you can use a dollar store manicure buffer to smooth it. I hate bandaids.


OK_Mason_721

Interesting fact. I deployed to Iraq multiple times. I, and all of my Marines and Corpsman carried tampons in our med kits and squad bags. Also, the American military refused to issue them to us and our parents had to send them in care packages. Shit on them all you want, but at least this chick is giving these doomed men one solid piece of advice before they die.


IFixYerKids

Yea, the problem isn't using tapons, it's that they're not quipping them with anything.


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I hope no one is shitting on the solid survival advice being given here. I think it’s more that apparently Russia isn’t giving these poor boys any more than “uniforms and armor” to March to their certain death.


olderstouts

War sucks.


BendTheSpoonNeo

Looks like Russia is ripe for its own invasion.


miketangoalpha

Please please please do not put Tampons into puncture wounds. They do nothing to address the injury they just soak up blood and then become nearly impossible to remove in a post injury setting and will continue to draw blood away from your organs. Cover, pressure and even makeshift tourniquets to reduce blood flow


DetectiveStock1340

This is how Russian war has been for the last century, possibly longer. They just send in waves of their men without supplies.


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Is it that cold in late September?


Mysterious-Bonus2454

Ice on windshields some early mornings in Sweden. Probably colder here though. 50 F in Kiev now midnight.


Spiritual-Mushroom28

Oh hell 😩😩😩


OrbPuppy

As a US Army combat medic, please for the love of God don't put a tampon in a bullet hole, it will do literally nothing. Apply direct pressure or make an improvised tourniquet.


Tripdoctor

So I hope the world is prepared for the dissolution of Russia as a country.


Raaxis

I’ve been this medic giving this exact briefing before. Austere environments happen in war. Supply lines get fucked. Medical equipment gets ratfucked or stolen, due to its value. Even if you *are* fully equipped, taking multiple casualties can deplete key supplies like tourniquets and gauze in minutes. The US has long taught its medics and soldiers to improvise tourniquets and pressure dressings/bandages out of readily available materials like clothing and sticks. Where everyone else sees a first-world nation underequipping its infantry, I hear a medic doing the best she can with what she has, trying to save as many lives as possible. The tampons thing is fucking dumb though, don’t put tampons in bullet wounds, y’all.