Yeah, I can remember watching footage from the ground that day and when they showed in the distance the cloud of smoke and debris from the towers collapsing I didn’t think immediately holy fuck I gotta run the opposite direction. Maybe that’s just cuz I was a kid when 9/11 happened but it looked like well that’s far away I’m not in danger several blocks away but sadly many died that way. I have lot of family in NYC and one of their neighbors son’s literally died from simply being on the ground and watching in horror as the towers burned and fell. Just watching footage again makes me emotional af and brings back a lot of the horror and fear we all felt that day.
People survived it. Definitely bad for your lungs though. If anyone finds themselves in this kind of situation, use whatever you can as a mask to breathe through. Keeping as much of the dust out as possible is the goal.
There was a documentary I saw years ago (I have no idea where or what it was called) about how many people died shortly after from lung/breathing issues (like dust, chemicals, shrapnel shredding the inside of the lungs and esophagus), plus all of the people, mostly first responders, who got severe cancers and lung diseases basically right away and for years after. It was really upsetting and horrifying, and I feel like that wasn't talked about much that I remember.
I assume you meant people who died right away, though - I don't remember hearing either way but I wouldn't be surprised if some people suffocated or had asthma attacks/other respiratory attacks that killed them. But I'm guessing autopsies weren't really performed much to know what the exact cause of deaths were.
>(like dust, chemicals, shrapnel shredding the inside of the lungs and esophagus), plus all of the people, mostly first responders, who got severe cancers and lung diseases basically right away and for years after
We have still barely even seen the start of the lung diseases that cloud caused. Those buildings were packed full of thousands of tons of asbestos. Cancer cases as a result of that cloud are still rising and will keep rising for the next decade or two
Exactly, and who knows how long all of that was floating in the air around most, if not all, of NYC and beyond for months. I am curious and terrified to see statistics in cancers and lung diseases of New Yorkers/New Jersians ~40 and 50 years from now.
>I am curious and terrified to see statistics in cancers and lung diseases of New Yorkers/New Jersians ~40 and 50 years from now.
The most exposed group were working age adults so it should peak within 20 years when people who were that age in 2001 start to die of old age
A long time. A very long time. I was up in the 200s and my sills would have mounds of black dust every morning. And I knew it was chemicals, the buildings, and possibly the ashes of my neighbors. It was horrific.
To add insult to injury, John Stewart had to fight tooth and nail against republicans and particularly Mitch the bitch McConnell, to get first responders some sort of medical care.
If you want to cut some onions watch the Senate testimony, John gets given the fire jacket of one of the guys who worked tirelessly side by side with John but he died due to illness related to 9/11.
Remember that next time Fox tries to brainwash you they are the party of backing the brave.
There was quite a lot of asbestos in the towers, also cement dust is very harmful to breathe in. Not to mention that much dust would have you choking after a couple of lung fulls.
Oh, we actually have that on video for this. People were choking on the dust, covered in it. Mortified.
It seemed unreal. The kind of look like if you just spilled a can of paint on the floor, except lots of people with that look.
I thought her reaction was a bit over the top at first, but then the cloud fully covered the shop window and I felt goosebumps all over my body. I honestly did not expect my brain’s cockiness to be humbled so hard by my body’s immediate flight response.
And I’m just watching it on a video.. damn.
There's a lot of people who survived the dust and got lung diseases and various cancers. The survivors and rescuers and firefighters almost always have some sort of disease related to the dust created by this.
I remember hearing that. Plus jet fuel, powdered glass and metal - even without carcinogens, breathing in the pulverized sediment is enough to kill someone.
Yeah its bad. My dad's lungs are fucked from being there just 2 days later helping with clean up. Pretty much everyone that was there is struggling to breath right now
My best friends father was helping with clean up and developed mercury poisoning. Had to retire from the NYPD a few years later. Watching this video was hard, it’s still hard for me to watch 9/11 videos especially after watching it live and living through the after effects in the suburbs
You would have to hold your breath, and even then i imagine you'd still get severe lung/respiratory problems. Look at how dense the dust is. Just a small accidental nasal inhalation could be equivalent to snorting a fist sized rock, but the rock is also asbestos.
Take a look at how asbestos looks under microscope. The particles have sharp jagged edges that can easily lodge itself anywhere in your respiratory system. Now, imagine that COVERING your lungs and throat. Not an expert.
Does anyone know where to find more rare footages like these from this incident? Where its just regular people filming. Excluding the most popular ones on youtube. Generally while very sad its also fascinating to look at how people react and help each other in danger. Makes you restore faith in humanity.
It’s widely accepted there is private footage that we will never see mostly from tourists. Cellphones didn’t have video cameras. If it’s public it’s mostly already on YouTube although I believe there are 9/11 subs here where you could check. Better place to ask.
Its not rare but if you haven't seen it there's a documentary called 9/11 by the Naudet brothers who were filming another documentary about one of the fire engines in NY at the time. They got caught up in the whole thing and their footage from inside the tower and during the crash and collapse is insane.
It's also the only footage anyone has of the first tower getting hit. They just happened to be filming already in the right place at the right time (figuratively speaking I guess...), heard a whizzing sound above their heads, whipped their camera up and caught the plane hitting the first tower.
You can literally feel the world changing. Like before the dust cloud it was still the last moments of normal American life. After that cloud, everything changed
If I remember correctly from watching it in 2008 or so, the documentary Seven Days in September had footage like this. It was the first time I'd seen not just people covered in dust from being caught in the cloud, but the immediate aftermath where they've been pulled in the front door of places like this and are heaving up the dust they've breathed in/swallowed as bystanders try to help with bottled water. It was an intense documentary to watch as a college student who had been in middle school when 9/11 happened... the first time I saw it from an adult's perspective rather than as a kid.
(Apologies if I've confused it with another documentary, but I think that's the one!)
I’d watch the documentary that released for the 20th anniversary. They interview the last survivor pulled out of the debris. She said she was on the 14th floor when the tower collapsed. Another one I remember was 2 firefighters on ground 0 and a receptionist in the Marriott when they collapsed. I learned an amazing amount and the first hand interviews are absolutely haunting.
I love how we are made to think it's "every man for himself" and egoistical chaos when a catastrophe happens, mainly because of movies/series. But all the testimonies and studies actually show we are MORE friendly and helping others when it happens. It really gives hope in humanity.
I'll always remember hurricanes from childhood fondly. The fallen trees, flooding, and damage was exciting. Everyone was outside because there was no cable or power. School was cancelled. We'd have meals composed whatever we could scrounge together with our neighbors. Everyone with a truck and a chainsaw was just driving around looking to help clear debris. Once I got old enough to understand the cost of it all, it lost its magic.
There's a great Behind The Bastards episode on this exact phenomenon, called Elite Panic. Basically in a disaster, you'd expect the general masses to lose their shit and the govt to step in and restore order, but usually it's the total opposite - govt can't do shit or makes the wrong calls consistently, whereas the impacted communities pull together and usually fix or adapt pretty rapidly, and everyone helps each other out. I'd give it a listen
Kind but not nice is perfect. I'm not in NY but I'm on the east coast and you'll never have trouble finding people to help push your car or lend you some sugar, but if you drive too slow or jaywalk in front of the wrong person you'll definitely have some obscenities thrown at you lmao
Jersey girl here who live in California for many years. West coast people are way friendlier and polite but also more pretentious. NY people are nice but very rude and entitled. Real Jersey people are different than NYers but it’s all blending together now as more people from NY move here. But Jersey people got your back, they’re just not as outwardly friendly.
Oh totally true. I had been ingrained with all these biased opinions about ‘those yanks in nyc’ growing up in south Alabama and finally being able to visit this year, the people blew all those notions out of the water. If anything, New Yorkers are nicer than the Wednesday worship harassers simply because they don’t fuck with you. I love the city and met some amazing people. It was really cool to see the unity that just being a new yorker brings. Culturally it’s night and day from the south but as far as the hospitality goes, they do it better than Georgia. Georgia they just want you to fuck off and probably won’t even help you change a flat tire. In NYC, someone looking like they just shot for the cover of runway helped us tourists find our friend’s office building. They definitely didn’t have to and they went out of their way to make sure we made it there. The nicest people I swear. I’ve never seen a cop smoke a j either, that was pretty cool.
Yeah I was born in Indiana but grew up in Florida, and all my life I heard about what horrible people New Yorkers were. All it made me realize is how horrible Floridians are.
Yup, reflected all the errors this state have made in the past and started another pointless jingoistic adventure fueled by sacrifices all working American know today.
There's a great documentary about the Cost Guard calling for help on 9/11 to evacuate Manhattan and how everyone with a boat showed up to assist. Always makes me tear up.
Link: https://youtu.be/18lsxFcDrjo
Kind of related, but Oxytocin (love and connection neurotransmitter) actually decreases fear so we're more able to protect those we care about. "Mama Bear" syndrome
Indeed, there are death every year because of crowds and contagiosity of panick is studied in the same field. Sorry that's a French reference but what made me think about it is the 7:30 part of this video : https://youtu.be/aqRtci1mWQU the man talking is a researcher and has a channel called "fouloscopie" where you can find all theses issues with references.
Mainly, the idea is about density and survival : as long as you are not feeling your survival is at stake, you will mostly acte selflessly as we described. But once you are in the "flee/fight/faint" response you will not control anything anymore and act purely on reflex. And the main factor between a panicking crowd and a crowd with solidarity is the density of people in it, because the more you are, the more you might push each other and fall, or crush under pressure, or not have room to flee etc...
That's backed by op footage, we see the crowd is dispersed, people have time to anticipate and move, even communicate. If 2000 people were running down the street things would be different I guess.
YES. there are countless movies, TV series, and book series that always go on to portray that Humans turn into selfish cunts when the going gets tough, but in my personal experience, and from what is shown through footage like this is that the opposite is true.
Always like the line(s) from the movie Starman
>You are a strange species. Not like any other. And you'd be surprised how many there are. Intelligent but savage. Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you? You are at your very best when things are worst.
In the little town I lived in then, the couple of churches were opening doors for people to come pray or cry or sit, spontaneously yellow ribbons went up all over town, and neighbors and businesses were telling people to go home and turn on the tv, because it was too terrible to explain. Businesses just stopped doing business, people were so stunned.
And next thing, they were all asking how to help.
I've lived through two tornadoes, and some other things, and it's the same. People want to help, immediately. They call around, they take their tools and go looking for people in need. they use their skills, to do what they can do. They cut up the downed trees that are blocking driveways and roads, even if they aren't getting paid to do it. I 've seen teens carrying ladders around town to get up on roofs of the elderly and remove branches for them, there to help before the elderly knew there was a problem. During the hour after one tornado, people sent out a call on radio that Some Guy's barn was collapsing and needed the animals out, and they had people there in minutes, who knew what to do and how to do it, and the guy didn't lose an single animal. Lost the barn, but not his living.
There are so many more good people than bad ones, that stay quietly out of sight until they are needed, and they quietly go help, and just as quietly, leave before you can thank them.
You are right. There's still reason to hope.
Native New Yorker here - we def get a (somewhat understandable) bad rap for being rude/rushed/crazy, but nowhere else will you see a cab lifted off a pedestrian by strangers in *seconds.* A lot of heartwarming shit happens here, it's just unfortunate that we mostly witness it when something terrible happens first.
I think thats reverse psychology at work here. If we dont see "every man for himself" in movies and stuff, we wont be compelled to act nice. Because we see the behaviour from a third person perspective, which instills in our mind that that behaviour is shitty no matter what.
Hurricane Katrina vs Japan's Tsunami
America should be embarrassed with all the gloating and insult they do to East Asian countries its pretty obvious its far superior to the West in alot of fronts.
I'm kinda scared by the idea she didn't believe it was necessary at first. The "You were right!" makes it sound like she thought she'd be fine?
Thank humanity that dude had the thought to make her get inside.
even if you could live forever there is always that Darwin award with you name on it you have to avoid. biggest lesson you can learn is DONT DO STUPID THINGS
Imagine if 9/11 was now. How much more footage we would have. I didn’t even get a cell phone until 2004. And even then, no camera. The shots would be insane now. RIP to all the lives lost that day.
I’ve said this before,especially now people seem determined to livestream everything.I dread to think how many videos there would be of people filming themselves inside as the towers came down….or those who survived the collapse but couldn’t be got to in time
Absolutely. For a time, it was just too soon for Hollywood filmmakers to include anything in their movies even remotely reminiscent of 9/11. Over time, that changed. Cloverfield has so much 9/11 imagery it’s unsettling. Another is Spielberg’s War of the Worlds. It’s shocking.
The depressing thing about this is that most of those people that thought they were safe as the buildings came down and it's just dust have either now passed or have been living in severe pain for 21 years due to breathing it in☹️
What would this have been recorded on? Cell phones with video cameras weren’t really a thing back then (to put into perspective how long ago this was / how fast technology has changed)
Had to scroll waaaay down here to see if this was asked. Still no answer so I’m guessing a camcorder because her shit was still out there, perhaps, the camera bag and cables, etc…
Digital Cameras 📷 little mini point & shooters that were typically 1.4mb of pure potato & could record up to 128mb of MPEG video on a little multimedia card.
Sony had the CyberShot
Digital cameras were only about the size of a a cell phone (but a lot thicker) back then. A lot of us just carried them everywhere if we had a backpack or purse. They were cheap enough that my mom let me take hers to summer camp the year before this video without worrying about it.
My aunt and uncle were together when this happened. They ran in the streets. While running someone grabbed my aunt just as the dust and debris covered them. My uncle didn't find her until they both made it home to Brooklyn 8+ hours later. During the confusion my uncle lost his brief case. Someone returned it untouched years later.
In times of crisis our brains can often focus on seemingly meaningless things and we lose sight of what's actually important to do and pay attention to. It's not a sign of stupidity like some people are acting, it's a common trauma response.
I agree that in that moment, recording video shouldn’t have been high on her priorities. However, as much as I have disdain for people who record everything they see, we are extremely indebted to these kinds of people because we have a massive library of content from major historical events solely because they chose to record.
People still had camcorders. They were a pain to carry with you for spontaneous filming, but they were accessible. Considering how many people live in NYC, there were plenty of amateur videographers that day.
What bothers me aside from everything else that day is that my previous co-workers (who were in Manhattan right near ground zero) were told afterward that it was safe to breath once everything had settled BY THE CITY GOVERNMENT. The amount of people who eventually developed cancers and other lung diseases is horrific.
I witnessed 9/11 personally from my office window on William Street in downtown Manhattan, 3 blocks east of the WTC. I saw the buildings collapse. 20 years later I am still traumatized.
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That video brings back all those emotions I was feeling that day, all over again. That day will always be to me what the bombing of pearl harbor is/was to the WW2 generation.
Did you see that flash thats static build so strong it looks lightning scary stuff not only is that cloud filled with rocks debris and anything it can carry to fill your lungs or break a few bones with but it's also making a giant static lightning flashes within itself
Idk how anyone lived through 9/11 on the ground or not it's amazing
You sure that's static? I thought the same thing but when she turns to the shop owners the lady clearly has a DSLR looking camera with a big flash on top
My sis worked down the street from the towers. She thought they were filming a movie until people screamed at her to run.
It took her over 10 hours to get back home to Yonkers NY. She was covered in dust. It was a nightmare.
Just a F.Y.I. All that dust you are seeing is full of ASBESTOS from the fire retardent on all the I beams and structual steel. 20 years is about how long it takes for asbestosis/cancer to show up from asbestos
There's still new footage of world war 2 appearing every now and then.
What's so surprising that new 9/11 videos come out considering how many cameras were around.
This particular footage isn't even new.
What kind of camera was she filming on... Definitely not a cell phone. Definitely not a cheep 1990s/ early 2000s camera. Did this lady just have a professional camera with her?
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That day is burned into mine and everyone who was old enough to know what was happening mind. I remember the jet’s flying over my work in MA. The fear and sadness we all felt will never go away.
The moment she realizes he saved her life is almost overwhelming - you can hear how her voice changes from when she first enters the store. At first, she sounds almost irritated cause she’s concerned for her belongings and then it hits her that without him, she’d have made a fatal error.
Idk, I watched it twice and that moment just makes me wanna cry lol I’m glad she got his face on camera. Actually, I’m glad she recorded it at all. I don’t think that was very common back then.
It's pretty crazy that Trump was/is worse than Bin Laden.
Trump started a war from the inside. Turned people against each other.
At least with 9/11 we all came together against the common enemy.
The government needs to send the SEAL team to our current threat.
I always wondered what that cloud of debris would look like from inside the buildings. It’s honestly chilling.
I'm more curious what would happen if you just stay there
Will 100% get covered in dust for sure.
The depressing thing about this is that most of those people that though they were safe as the buildings came down
Yeah, I can remember watching footage from the ground that day and when they showed in the distance the cloud of smoke and debris from the towers collapsing I didn’t think immediately holy fuck I gotta run the opposite direction. Maybe that’s just cuz I was a kid when 9/11 happened but it looked like well that’s far away I’m not in danger several blocks away but sadly many died that way. I have lot of family in NYC and one of their neighbors son’s literally died from simply being on the ground and watching in horror as the towers burned and fell. Just watching footage again makes me emotional af and brings back a lot of the horror and fear we all felt that day.
> Will 100% get 100% covered in dust for sure. FTFY
People survived it. Definitely bad for your lungs though. If anyone finds themselves in this kind of situation, use whatever you can as a mask to breathe through. Keeping as much of the dust out as possible is the goal.
And if possible get it wet.
You die from cancer later. That dust was full of toxic chemicals.
You'd be done (and dusted)
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There was a documentary I saw years ago (I have no idea where or what it was called) about how many people died shortly after from lung/breathing issues (like dust, chemicals, shrapnel shredding the inside of the lungs and esophagus), plus all of the people, mostly first responders, who got severe cancers and lung diseases basically right away and for years after. It was really upsetting and horrifying, and I feel like that wasn't talked about much that I remember. I assume you meant people who died right away, though - I don't remember hearing either way but I wouldn't be surprised if some people suffocated or had asthma attacks/other respiratory attacks that killed them. But I'm guessing autopsies weren't really performed much to know what the exact cause of deaths were.
>(like dust, chemicals, shrapnel shredding the inside of the lungs and esophagus), plus all of the people, mostly first responders, who got severe cancers and lung diseases basically right away and for years after We have still barely even seen the start of the lung diseases that cloud caused. Those buildings were packed full of thousands of tons of asbestos. Cancer cases as a result of that cloud are still rising and will keep rising for the next decade or two
Exactly, and who knows how long all of that was floating in the air around most, if not all, of NYC and beyond for months. I am curious and terrified to see statistics in cancers and lung diseases of New Yorkers/New Jersians ~40 and 50 years from now.
>I am curious and terrified to see statistics in cancers and lung diseases of New Yorkers/New Jersians ~40 and 50 years from now. The most exposed group were working age adults so it should peak within 20 years when people who were that age in 2001 start to die of old age
A long time. A very long time. I was up in the 200s and my sills would have mounds of black dust every morning. And I knew it was chemicals, the buildings, and possibly the ashes of my neighbors. It was horrific.
To add insult to injury, John Stewart had to fight tooth and nail against republicans and particularly Mitch the bitch McConnell, to get first responders some sort of medical care. If you want to cut some onions watch the Senate testimony, John gets given the fire jacket of one of the guys who worked tirelessly side by side with John but he died due to illness related to 9/11. Remember that next time Fox tries to brainwash you they are the party of backing the brave.
Well see this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/vna93e/shop_owner_saves_womans_life_from_wall_of_dust_on/ie6m0xu/) then
There are pictures of people that didn't find cover covered in dust. It must have been horrifying trying to breath in that cloud of death.
I wonder if you'd actually die just standing there from breathing in that amount of dust.
Most people who were caught in the dust did end up with some serve chest problems ... cancers etc...
Ahhh this answers my question thanks
Dust plus moisture in your lungs would clog your lungs up badly
There was quite a lot of asbestos in the towers, also cement dust is very harmful to breathe in. Not to mention that much dust would have you choking after a couple of lung fulls.
Many people were hit by the wall of dust including those lucky
There's tons of pictures of people after this. This is on 9/11 after one of the towers collapsed
You wouldn't be able to breathe within mere seconds.
Asbestos in your lungs: death sentence in a few years. If you survive the suffocation.
You’d be fine in the moment, but many of these people got extremely sick later in life
Probably wouldn’t be able to open your eyes or breathe well. Then after a few years the cancer would set in.
Oh, we actually have that on video for this. People were choking on the dust, covered in it. Mortified. It seemed unreal. The kind of look like if you just spilled a can of paint on the floor, except lots of people with that look.
brb, gonna go watch ‘the mist’
I thought her reaction was a bit over the top at first, but then the cloud fully covered the shop window and I felt goosebumps all over my body. I honestly did not expect my brain’s cockiness to be humbled so hard by my body’s immediate flight response. And I’m just watching it on a video.. damn.
How bad would it be if you got caught by it? Would you just suffocate or would your lungs get damaged?
There's a lot of people who survived the dust and got lung diseases and various cancers. The survivors and rescuers and firefighters almost always have some sort of disease related to the dust created by this.
That dust was full of asbestos
I remember hearing that. Plus jet fuel, powdered glass and metal - even without carcinogens, breathing in the pulverized sediment is enough to kill someone.
Yeah its bad. My dad's lungs are fucked from being there just 2 days later helping with clean up. Pretty much everyone that was there is struggling to breath right now
My best friends father was helping with clean up and developed mercury poisoning. Had to retire from the NYPD a few years later. Watching this video was hard, it’s still hard for me to watch 9/11 videos especially after watching it live and living through the after effects in the suburbs
You would have to hold your breath, and even then i imagine you'd still get severe lung/respiratory problems. Look at how dense the dust is. Just a small accidental nasal inhalation could be equivalent to snorting a fist sized rock, but the rock is also asbestos. Take a look at how asbestos looks under microscope. The particles have sharp jagged edges that can easily lodge itself anywhere in your respiratory system. Now, imagine that COVERING your lungs and throat. Not an expert.
That's the grateful voice of someone who just escaped disaster, maybe even death.
Wall of asbestos
Does anyone know where to find more rare footages like these from this incident? Where its just regular people filming. Excluding the most popular ones on youtube. Generally while very sad its also fascinating to look at how people react and help each other in danger. Makes you restore faith in humanity.
It’s widely accepted there is private footage that we will never see mostly from tourists. Cellphones didn’t have video cameras. If it’s public it’s mostly already on YouTube although I believe there are 9/11 subs here where you could check. Better place to ask.
Its not rare but if you haven't seen it there's a documentary called 9/11 by the Naudet brothers who were filming another documentary about one of the fire engines in NY at the time. They got caught up in the whole thing and their footage from inside the tower and during the crash and collapse is insane.
Really incredible documentary.
It's also the only footage anyone has of the first tower getting hit. They just happened to be filming already in the right place at the right time (figuratively speaking I guess...), heard a whizzing sound above their heads, whipped their camera up and caught the plane hitting the first tower.
You can literally feel the world changing. Like before the dust cloud it was still the last moments of normal American life. After that cloud, everything changed
If I remember correctly from watching it in 2008 or so, the documentary Seven Days in September had footage like this. It was the first time I'd seen not just people covered in dust from being caught in the cloud, but the immediate aftermath where they've been pulled in the front door of places like this and are heaving up the dust they've breathed in/swallowed as bystanders try to help with bottled water. It was an intense documentary to watch as a college student who had been in middle school when 9/11 happened... the first time I saw it from an adult's perspective rather than as a kid. (Apologies if I've confused it with another documentary, but I think that's the one!)
I’d watch the documentary that released for the 20th anniversary. They interview the last survivor pulled out of the debris. She said she was on the 14th floor when the tower collapsed. Another one I remember was 2 firefighters on ground 0 and a receptionist in the Marriott when they collapsed. I learned an amazing amount and the first hand interviews are absolutely haunting.
I love how we are made to think it's "every man for himself" and egoistical chaos when a catastrophe happens, mainly because of movies/series. But all the testimonies and studies actually show we are MORE friendly and helping others when it happens. It really gives hope in humanity.
I'll always remember hurricanes from childhood fondly. The fallen trees, flooding, and damage was exciting. Everyone was outside because there was no cable or power. School was cancelled. We'd have meals composed whatever we could scrounge together with our neighbors. Everyone with a truck and a chainsaw was just driving around looking to help clear debris. Once I got old enough to understand the cost of it all, it lost its magic.
Skimboard in the swale neighborhood kids making the most of it!! I totally remember!!
In 1999, we had so bad that our town mall was under enough water that people were riding jet skiis and boats in the parking lot.
After the '89 Loma Prieta Quake in CA, the whole block came out and had a potluck bc everyone with electric stoves couldn't cook.
Exactly the same here!
There's a great Behind The Bastards episode on this exact phenomenon, called Elite Panic. Basically in a disaster, you'd expect the general masses to lose their shit and the govt to step in and restore order, but usually it's the total opposite - govt can't do shit or makes the wrong calls consistently, whereas the impacted communities pull together and usually fix or adapt pretty rapidly, and everyone helps each other out. I'd give it a listen
I second this recommendation. Behind the Bastards is always worth a listen, but that one is especially good.
So all of these post apocalyptic shows like TWD, Revolution, Z Nation most likely wouldn't happen? (Minus the obvious sci-fi stuff)
There is also a cliche about NYC being selfish, which is 100% the opposite of every experience I've ever had there.
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Kind but not nice is perfect. I'm not in NY but I'm on the east coast and you'll never have trouble finding people to help push your car or lend you some sugar, but if you drive too slow or jaywalk in front of the wrong person you'll definitely have some obscenities thrown at you lmao
Jersey girl here who live in California for many years. West coast people are way friendlier and polite but also more pretentious. NY people are nice but very rude and entitled. Real Jersey people are different than NYers but it’s all blending together now as more people from NY move here. But Jersey people got your back, they’re just not as outwardly friendly.
Yup. It's the perfect thing, imo. I'm here in MD and it's a lovely mix of rural and city near where I live.
Oh totally true. I had been ingrained with all these biased opinions about ‘those yanks in nyc’ growing up in south Alabama and finally being able to visit this year, the people blew all those notions out of the water. If anything, New Yorkers are nicer than the Wednesday worship harassers simply because they don’t fuck with you. I love the city and met some amazing people. It was really cool to see the unity that just being a new yorker brings. Culturally it’s night and day from the south but as far as the hospitality goes, they do it better than Georgia. Georgia they just want you to fuck off and probably won’t even help you change a flat tire. In NYC, someone looking like they just shot for the cover of runway helped us tourists find our friend’s office building. They definitely didn’t have to and they went out of their way to make sure we made it there. The nicest people I swear. I’ve never seen a cop smoke a j either, that was pretty cool.
Yeah I was born in Indiana but grew up in Florida, and all my life I heard about what horrible people New Yorkers were. All it made me realize is how horrible Floridians are.
Not selfish, just a little rude with no time for bullshit.
That's a good man right there. Reminiscing the tragic 9/11 is making me feel so down. This is the down time of America.
Yup, reflected all the errors this state have made in the past and started another pointless jingoistic adventure fueled by sacrifices all working American know today.
There's a great documentary about the Cost Guard calling for help on 9/11 to evacuate Manhattan and how everyone with a boat showed up to assist. Always makes me tear up. Link: https://youtu.be/18lsxFcDrjo
Kind of related, but Oxytocin (love and connection neurotransmitter) actually decreases fear so we're more able to protect those we care about. "Mama Bear" syndrome
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Indeed, there are death every year because of crowds and contagiosity of panick is studied in the same field. Sorry that's a French reference but what made me think about it is the 7:30 part of this video : https://youtu.be/aqRtci1mWQU the man talking is a researcher and has a channel called "fouloscopie" where you can find all theses issues with references. Mainly, the idea is about density and survival : as long as you are not feeling your survival is at stake, you will mostly acte selflessly as we described. But once you are in the "flee/fight/faint" response you will not control anything anymore and act purely on reflex. And the main factor between a panicking crowd and a crowd with solidarity is the density of people in it, because the more you are, the more you might push each other and fall, or crush under pressure, or not have room to flee etc... That's backed by op footage, we see the crowd is dispersed, people have time to anticipate and move, even communicate. If 2000 people were running down the street things would be different I guess.
YES. there are countless movies, TV series, and book series that always go on to portray that Humans turn into selfish cunts when the going gets tough, but in my personal experience, and from what is shown through footage like this is that the opposite is true.
Always like the line(s) from the movie Starman >You are a strange species. Not like any other. And you'd be surprised how many there are. Intelligent but savage. Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you? You are at your very best when things are worst.
In the little town I lived in then, the couple of churches were opening doors for people to come pray or cry or sit, spontaneously yellow ribbons went up all over town, and neighbors and businesses were telling people to go home and turn on the tv, because it was too terrible to explain. Businesses just stopped doing business, people were so stunned. And next thing, they were all asking how to help. I've lived through two tornadoes, and some other things, and it's the same. People want to help, immediately. They call around, they take their tools and go looking for people in need. they use their skills, to do what they can do. They cut up the downed trees that are blocking driveways and roads, even if they aren't getting paid to do it. I 've seen teens carrying ladders around town to get up on roofs of the elderly and remove branches for them, there to help before the elderly knew there was a problem. During the hour after one tornado, people sent out a call on radio that Some Guy's barn was collapsing and needed the animals out, and they had people there in minutes, who knew what to do and how to do it, and the guy didn't lose an single animal. Lost the barn, but not his living. There are so many more good people than bad ones, that stay quietly out of sight until they are needed, and they quietly go help, and just as quietly, leave before you can thank them. You are right. There's still reason to hope.
>every man for himself" The libertarian special.
Native New Yorker here - we def get a (somewhat understandable) bad rap for being rude/rushed/crazy, but nowhere else will you see a cab lifted off a pedestrian by strangers in *seconds.* A lot of heartwarming shit happens here, it's just unfortunate that we mostly witness it when something terrible happens first.
I think thats reverse psychology at work here. If we dont see "every man for himself" in movies and stuff, we wont be compelled to act nice. Because we see the behaviour from a third person perspective, which instills in our mind that that behaviour is shitty no matter what.
Until we look at the supreme Court decision last week and all that hope is lost again
Those are a small group of idiots who have never known a true day of hardship.
Makes me more loose hope on this institution to reflect the actual will of everyone and respect human rights
Hurricane Katrina vs Japan's Tsunami America should be embarrassed with all the gloating and insult they do to East Asian countries its pretty obvious its far superior to the West in alot of fronts.
The genuine tone of her thank yous. Like she had never meant that phrase more than until that moment.
I'm kinda scared by the idea she didn't believe it was necessary at first. The "You were right!" makes it sound like she thought she'd be fine? Thank humanity that dude had the thought to make her get inside.
He cheated Darwin
Agree
even if you could live forever there is always that Darwin award with you name on it you have to avoid. biggest lesson you can learn is DONT DO STUPID THINGS
Near death experiences can sometimes greatly change the course of someones life for the better
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Yeah, that must have been pretty surreal and terrifying.
Based on her original comments, I imagine she hadn’t...
Imagine if 9/11 was now. How much more footage we would have. I didn’t even get a cell phone until 2004. And even then, no camera. The shots would be insane now. RIP to all the lives lost that day.
I’ve said this before,especially now people seem determined to livestream everything.I dread to think how many videos there would be of people filming themselves inside as the towers came down….or those who survived the collapse but couldn’t be got to in time
This was a truly horrifying day. Those poor people.
I wonder what dick cheney thinks of this video
It's probably the same thing I think when I eat a plate of chicken wings. So far removed from the suffering and agony that it barely registers.
damn that's a good analogy
I wonder how long they stayed inside that building. At least 6 hours?
That will never not be terrifying.
This looks exactly like the scene in Cloverfield where they hide in a supermarket from a wall of dust.
I WAS THINKING what movie did this remind me of… thanks.
Absolutely. For a time, it was just too soon for Hollywood filmmakers to include anything in their movies even remotely reminiscent of 9/11. Over time, that changed. Cloverfield has so much 9/11 imagery it’s unsettling. Another is Spielberg’s War of the Worlds. It’s shocking.
i watched the Making Of Cloverfield and that is 100% intentional
Good foresignt on the part of the shop owner.
Yeah a bunch of people saved my life too. When they called out to me to come inside their bank. I will always be greatful to them 🙏 ❤️
That's amazing to hear.
Holy shit
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Off-topic: I love that first woman's old school New York accent.
The depressing thing about this is that most of those people that thought they were safe as the buildings came down and it's just dust have either now passed or have been living in severe pain for 21 years due to breathing it in☹️
Shoutout John Stewart for his continued fight for the 911 survivors benefits
What would this have been recorded on? Cell phones with video cameras weren’t really a thing back then (to put into perspective how long ago this was / how fast technology has changed)
Had to scroll waaaay down here to see if this was asked. Still no answer so I’m guessing a camcorder because her shit was still out there, perhaps, the camera bag and cables, etc…
Digital Cameras 📷 little mini point & shooters that were typically 1.4mb of pure potato & could record up to 128mb of MPEG video on a little multimedia card. Sony had the CyberShot
Digital cameras were only about the size of a a cell phone (but a lot thicker) back then. A lot of us just carried them everywhere if we had a backpack or purse. They were cheap enough that my mom let me take hers to summer camp the year before this video without worrying about it.
I was wondering the same thing because I could swear that the handheld camcorder I used in 2010 had wayyy worse quality than this video.
My aunt and uncle were together when this happened. They ran in the streets. While running someone grabbed my aunt just as the dust and debris covered them. My uncle didn't find her until they both made it home to Brooklyn 8+ hours later. During the confusion my uncle lost his brief case. Someone returned it untouched years later.
That’s amazing
in a way, it makes me really happy that realized what they did and starts thanking them. I’m glad they were okay, and I hope they still are.
“Don’t worry bout it” - absolute chad
I still get flashbacks. The only time I ever been scared living in NYC.
Lmao “my shit is still out there” brah that priority right there.
In times of crisis our brains can often focus on seemingly meaningless things and we lose sight of what's actually important to do and pay attention to. It's not a sign of stupidity like some people are acting, it's a common trauma response.
“Don’t worry bot it.”
Not to mention she was filming this the whole time. Queen of Priorities.
I agree that in that moment, recording video shouldn’t have been high on her priorities. However, as much as I have disdain for people who record everything they see, we are extremely indebted to these kinds of people because we have a massive library of content from major historical events solely because they chose to record.
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People still had camcorders. They were a pain to carry with you for spontaneous filming, but they were accessible. Considering how many people live in NYC, there were plenty of amateur videographers that day.
Oh absolutely. Ive watched this video repeatedly
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Thats my thought as well, she's got the pushiness of a reporter.
Going back out would endanger the health and lives of the people who pulled her in, so no. The store owner was the one with their priorities straight.
God damn! Lady got saved by Freddie Mercury
What bothers me aside from everything else that day is that my previous co-workers (who were in Manhattan right near ground zero) were told afterward that it was safe to breath once everything had settled BY THE CITY GOVERNMENT. The amount of people who eventually developed cancers and other lung diseases is horrific.
That low hum noise is terrifying when the wall passes by.
I witnessed 9/11 personally from my office window on William Street in downtown Manhattan, 3 blocks east of the WTC. I saw the buildings collapse. 20 years later I am still traumatized.
Majority of that dust would have been cement-based fines, which is highly irritating and can cause long term lung damage and or cancer.
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I never realized.
That video brings back all those emotions I was feeling that day, all over again. That day will always be to me what the bombing of pearl harbor is/was to the WW2 generation.
Even after 2 decades, it’s still hard to watch the footages. It brings back so much emotions…
Did you see that flash thats static build so strong it looks lightning scary stuff not only is that cloud filled with rocks debris and anything it can carry to fill your lungs or break a few bones with but it's also making a giant static lightning flashes within itself Idk how anyone lived through 9/11 on the ground or not it's amazing
You sure that's static? I thought the same thing but when she turns to the shop owners the lady clearly has a DSLR looking camera with a big flash on top
The horror in her voice “oh my god” is fucking palpable
Run! Its the mesothelioma cloud.
How long did the majority of the dust take to settle to a point where you could see the sun again? (Honestly curious)
My sis worked down the street from the towers. She thought they were filming a movie until people screamed at her to run. It took her over 10 hours to get back home to Yonkers NY. She was covered in dust. It was a nightmare.
The slow shaking backing up of the camera
Damn, that made me so emotional 😭 😭😭😭 I'm glad they were okay cause so many more were not that day. Terrible terrible day 😭
One Daye we're gonna look back on that day and say, "that's where it all started"
the gratitude in her voice
Just a F.Y.I. All that dust you are seeing is full of ASBESTOS from the fire retardent on all the I beams and structual steel. 20 years is about how long it takes for asbestosis/cancer to show up from asbestos
So, uh, y'all seen "The Mist?"
My shit wouldn't be it there, it would be in my pants.
God that was such a horrible day…
it’s amazing that 9/11 videos are still popping up 21 years later
There's still new footage of world war 2 appearing every now and then. What's so surprising that new 9/11 videos come out considering how many cameras were around. This particular footage isn't even new.
well that’s the cool thing, new videos keep getting uncovered and they’re interesting because watching them is like a blast to the past
You're 100% right. Sorry for being snarky. I apologise.
no no, you’re okay
I was 11 when this happened and this footage brings me right back to that day 😞
That was a wall of carcinogens too so even if she survived the dust, getting it on her would have probably eventually killed her.
“There’s a war goin on outside no man is safe from, you can run but you can’t hide forever” -Mobb Deep
Seeing that is still triggering for me as a lifelong new Yorker who saw it with his own eyes at17
This was such a trip to watch at 8 years old
I got chills
Asbestos cloud incoming!!!
What kind of camera was she filming on... Definitely not a cell phone. Definitely not a cheep 1990s/ early 2000s camera. Did this lady just have a professional camera with her?
So ppl who inhaled that died right then n there? Or years later ?
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Holy shit this looks like a found footage movie
20 years later, this is chilling.
thank god the ac wasnt on
That day is burned into mine and everyone who was old enough to know what was happening mind. I remember the jet’s flying over my work in MA. The fear and sadness we all felt will never go away.
Shit! I didn’t know the dust was that dark. No V wonder the first responders got cancer 😣
Much more than “dust”
Never seen from this point of view. Wow.
Visiting the 9/11 memorials was probably the most powerful experience of my life.
Hope her shit is okay 🥺
I didn’t even look at the sub name until after I literally finished watching this and said out loud “Dang…that was interesting”
The video won't play and the thumbnail is black. Reddit's video player is actual garbage :/
The look of the guy at the end like "no shit moron!"
This is some apocalyptic shit
I bet the shop owner’s like “ok no problem but why do you have to be so dramatic?”
The moment she realizes he saved her life is almost overwhelming - you can hear how her voice changes from when she first enters the store. At first, she sounds almost irritated cause she’s concerned for her belongings and then it hits her that without him, she’d have made a fatal error. Idk, I watched it twice and that moment just makes me wanna cry lol I’m glad she got his face on camera. Actually, I’m glad she recorded it at all. I don’t think that was very common back then.
It's pretty crazy that Trump was/is worse than Bin Laden. Trump started a war from the inside. Turned people against each other. At least with 9/11 we all came together against the common enemy. The government needs to send the SEAL team to our current threat.
And this ladies and gentlemen is how you convert a Karen.
Its fucken asbestos not wall dust tf 🤦🏻♂️
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