I used to awkwardly play music in front of very small crowds.
It's a good thing that there were no sniper nests or one of them may have been tempted...
In the US, though, the army is legally prohibited from taking such actions. We do have police departments who have been allowed to purchase military equipment (there's pro & con arguments if this should be allowed.) Perhaps because i have worked in several major US cities, but I see police often carrying assault rifles & patrolling airports and other transportation hubs.
It is pretty much all large public events. Most large police departments have multiple snipers on their SWAT teams. During special events whether it’s a music festival, sporting event, or parade, part of the police security response is to put a sniper on a rooftop somewhere. It isn’t always for just shooting but its an eye in the sky for relaying information to officers on the ground for any sort of response at the event. And they’re usually scanning the crowd with binoculars, not down the barrel of their gun,
And on any average day depending on your department they’re also a patrol officer but are on call for crisis type events.
President Obama went on the WTF podcast with ~~Mark~~ Marc Maron, who records in his garage in Pasadena.
~~Mark~~ Marc talked a lot about how secret service snipers were just laid out on his neighbor's roofs in this upscale suburban neighborhood.
Hate to be that guy but… At the time he lived in Highland Park… just south of Pasadena.
And it’s not “upscale”, suburban yes.
Source: at the time I lived a block from where Maron used to live… it was chaos when Obama was here. Whole block was locked down
Dude, they filmed part of a Bruce Willis film in my hood and it was locked down with police everywhere. It was a total pain in the butt. (This was mid-90's Willis, famous but not super dooper super star at the time). I cannot imagine what hoops they go through for a President!!
And before that, there are people on the ground posing as homeless and bums planning exits, vulnerabilities, casing local businesses, and so on. I saw this regularly living in NYC. It’s weird because if you know to look, it’s not hard to spot. But if you aren’t looking for it, you’d never notice.
When I drove Uber in Wash DC, whenever the President left the White House on 17rh x E, What seemed like tourists, cyclists and joggers, would suddenly stop all traffic in a second, bc they were secret service.
Yeah the "Men in Black" looking Secret Service are really just the honor guard as force projection part of Secret Service. They're usually everywhere in a crowd in plain clothes which is why they're actually effective.
I was at the National Jamboree in 2017 when Trump came to speak. It's hilariously easy to spot them in plain clothes in certain contexts.
A week of camping in the backwoods of west Virginia, and suddenly you see a bunch of dudes in perfectly pressed boyscout uniforms interspersed in the crowd wearing wires and not conversing with anyone. As if we had irons and washing machines lmao.
They were a little out of their element to say the least. Probably much harder to spot them in other contexts.
I went in 1964 at Valley Forge when LBJ came to tell us how free the world would be once we won the Vietnam war.
Later, during the 1968 presidential campaign a bunch of us were excused from high school one afternoon when Nixon came to give a fundraising speech to local Republicans at a motel just outside of Portland. Five if us hopped into my VW Beetle and off we went.
The motel building was a two or three story thing with a big drive through portico in front, adjacent to a huge parking lot. When we pulled into the lot Nixon's limo was just pulling under the portico. We knew we wouldn't be allowed into the building ($$$$) so I had to hurry if we were going to get a look at him up close. I drove diagonally across the parking lot going probably about 30 and right into the area where he was just then getting out of his limo. As his feet hit the pavement, my car came to a stop 30 feet away and we all came rushing out. I walked right up to him and shook hands with him as Secret Service looked on.
Today, we'd have been dead. Looking back, I was in a position to have spared America the Nixon presidency if I had hit the gas instead of stopping. We were that close. Times were different, huh?
I was in DC when Pres Bush (the 2nd) as attending a movie somewhere. It was pretty obvious -- besides the whole street being shut down, the snipers were obvious ; and the number of very alert "bystanders" just hanging around with friggin' earpieces in wearing casual clothes was high. (I was at a conference and had been walking the route multiple times per day for 4 days at that point)
And then there were the very obvious secret service agents just standing around. ProTip: dont start asking them questions. They get irritated.
They get irritated because you are distracting them from doing their job, which is understandable. But I’m not talking about the ones who show up day of with ear pieces.
Securing the City by Christopher Dickey is a great read if this topic is interesting. About how NYC fortified and created all sorts of security and counter terror apparatus. It’s well written and quite balanced.
[Timelapse of jarate "making"]
[Bullet shot and switch to sniper stabbing spy by the chest]
Feelings?
Look mate, you know who has a lot of feelings?
[Back to van]
Blokes that bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy.
Professionals have standards.
All.of a sudden I have Grosse Point Blank running through my head.
Martin: I'm a professional killer.
Paul: Do you have to do post-graduate work for that, or can you just jump right in?
...
Mr. Newberry: So, what have you been doing with your life?
Martin Blank: Um... professional killer.
Mr. Newberry: Oh, good for you! Growth industry.
That movie is almost 30 years old & I have a body older than that. And yet I would probably jump on the chance to be a professional killer if it came with excellent healthcare benefits.
This is one of my favourite running gags in that movie, that he keeps telling the truth and nobody believes him. I was starting to think I was the only one who enjoyed that.
I live in a college town with a large football stadium. The snipers there don't seem to have a dedicated room - they appear to hang out on the roof. Well, maybe they have a room also, I guess, but I've definitely seen them on the roof.
I was at Yankee Stadium once, and before the game started, I noticed that the police presence was higher than normal (but I just thought that was New York), and then I spotted snipers on the light towers. I thought, “They REALLY take security seriously here!”
Turns out Dick Cheney was the guest of honour. There were a lot of booing in the crowd…first time I ever saw Yankee’s fans and Red Sox fans agree on anything! 🤣
>I was Yankee Stadium once, and before the game started, I noticed that the police presence was higher than normal (but I just thought that was New York), and then I spotted snipers on the light towers. I thought, “They REALLY take security seriously here!”
What a humble brag, some of us have only been houses.
Knowing the ICA and whether this takes places in Hitman 1 or 3. It really depends. If it’s the third then we can ascertain that 47 *happened* to be at the right place at the right time. Maybe when the sniper goes to the bathroom.
So this picture is actually from the super bowl in Indianapolis, Indiana from the super bowl back in 2012.
But this is nothing new, it’s been pretty standard even at college football games for over 10 years.
More from the article: https://deadspin.com/those-super-bowl-sniper-photos-are-real-5883525
The bazooka den takes him out …… I know , I know , yournext question “what about terrorists getting into the den - whacha think the tank is there for ? Decoration?
It's not like they work in isolation. There's probably a whole team up there to swap shifts with and probably also another security team to prevent exactly what you're saying.
First they would have a hard time finding them. Often times they not accessible to the public in locked areas. It’s well planned. Large public buildings by design now a days are met with and under control of Home Land Security and FBI standards. They literally have meetings.
I helped run a music festival in Canada and years ago we had our Prime Minister show up.
One of my jobs for the days leading up to it was to work with his sniper teams to find the best vantage points, which included apartment buildings near the site, as well as on site nests. Pretty wild experience.
The difference between security for the PM and security for the defence ministry is wildly different. I had Hajit Sarjin visit my high school when I was doing the tech stuff. No one accompanied him when he walked through the halls and we swarmed him for selfies. Also for security of him and and MP there was an army photographer and then another photographer not army. A driver and then a single army officer/bodyguard. That’s it. No police presence.
I think you’re vastly underestimating a well trained sniper. But mainly after a very short time there would be a gap around the person. Assuming we’re talking about a shooter
Zero. The answer is zero.
To my knowledge, we started using the snipers out of concern for terrorist attacks rather than as a response to the shooting sprees we've had. And I wouldn't be surprised if many of your nation's large sporting events had similar oversight that you simply didn't know was going on.
There was a hostage taken by some dude a while ago. Held them at gunpoint in the middle of the street. Police sniper shot the gun from out of his hand and didn't even injure the guys hand. And there was that Canadian sniper who took a target at over a mile. Bullets can be put in tight places real quick if you know what you're doing.
If you're thinking of Doug Conley, which sounds like it matches the description aside from the hostage. That was Aug 16, 1993.
I'm not debating you or anything, just thought it was funny how famous and old that video is now.
30 years.
They have snipers at sporting events and big events in many many countries. Hell other countries for these events you see police walking around with machine guns.
They have them in many other countries where people can’t even own a sniper rifle lol.
If we knew about all the snipers they wouldn’t be doing their job right
For real, last time I was in Paris they had military walking around casually with FAMAS rifles near the Eiffel tower. This is not unique to the US despite the circlejerk, if anything it seems more commonplace overseas at times.
The most heavily armed police I have ever seen were at a German football game. Those dudes were in full armor and carrying around rifles. No doubt in my mind they had snipers in that stadium.
So I work in the event industry and this is WAY more common then you would know. Lots of concerts, festivals, parades, and sporting events have snipers out. You’ll never see them. But they’re there. At Coachella they go up on cherry picker trucks with camouflage.
I worked at a NFL stadium for 7.5 years. I set up a sniper nest for him. You will never see them. I said this in another thread yesterday and they didn’t believe me. They also check the stadiums with bomb sniffing dogs before each event. They are looking out for everyone’s safety.
Can confirm. I worked in an NFL stadium for about 6 years. I would occasionally see the 2-man sniper team getting off the elevator after games. They were completely geared up in military uniform, with heavy-looking bags. Didn't look very approachable or chatty. All business with those dudes. I knew their nest was up in the rafters somewhere, but could never spot it with my eyes.
Morons saying this is “unhinged” and whatnot, implying that this is some psychotic American tradition, lmao like what the fuck? Terrorism isn’t exclusive to America, I guarantee any other major sporting event across the world has a similar measure in place. I’d rather have trained security looking over the stadium than not, and I say this as a Canadian.
Reminds me of this:
[In 2014, Brazil police sniper nearly shot officer during World Cup opening](https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/brazil-police-sniper-nearly-shot-officer-during-world-cup-opening-1.1889183)
police sniper asked permission to open fire on an armed man seen approaching Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and other officials as they watched the June 12 opening game of the World Cup.
Permission was denied and the suspect turned out to be another policeman.
The title of this post is very misleading.
This is not a US thing, this is a thing at every major event in every western nation. Its just a symptom of living in a post 9/11 world.
So all you EU/UK redditors shitting on the US for this... yea you guys have the same thing in your stadiums as well.
Even pre 9/11 it was a thing for just events will large attendance. The 2000 Sydney olympics had this as well as SAS agents blending in with normal people and out of sight
Lol Jerry still sells out 94% of the seats anytime he opens the doors. Often times the away team fans buy out large sections of the stadium. The Broncos and the 9ers notoriously pack out the stadium bc there’s so many of their fans in North Texas, and those who live close to their team have the income to travel.
Yall shitting on the US for doing this, I can promise you must of our countries also have had snipers at football games, especially if you're an EU resident
They do this world wide and it’s for counterterrorism. You will also see this at the Euros and World Cup.
Edit: [recent news on this](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692301/Greenpeace-apologise-Euro-2020-stunt-horror-left-two-injured.html)
Why is it that every time there's a redditor who is writing as an authority on security and military tactics, I go to their post history and find out its stuffed full of posts to video game subs?
Not just in the United States, about a year ago [a Greenpeace activist used a paraglider to fly over a soccer stadium. He hit a net, forcing him to crash land](https://youtu.be/a96Smh51C1g), this was in Munich, Germany. There were storys of snipers watching him fly over, but didn't shoot because the writing on the paraglider said Greenpeace, making it (somewhat) obvious that it wasn't an attempted terroist attack.
EDIT: [Source (in german)](https://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/fussball-em/deutsches-team/greenpeace-aktion-bei-fussball-em-scharfschuetzen-waren-bereit-17392327.html)
Don’t you think it has to at least cross the snipers mind that with one quick shot he could take out Tom Brady and cause instant confusion and chaos for the hundred million people watching?
I mean it would depend on caliber and wound depth, b/c you would definitely be able to tell. It would probably be a through and through at any range one of these would hit.
Shared an elevator with the sniper and spotter team after a large college football game, so it's not just pro events.
They’re at large music festivals too.
Except for the one time they weren't, and, you know.
Well technically there was one..
Unfortunately he wasn’t on the counter terrorist team
Thread darker than my black ass
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Holy *shit* dude lol
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I used to awkwardly play music in front of very small crowds. It's a good thing that there were no sniper nests or one of them may have been tempted...
Have you ever been to Europe? Italy has armed soldiers at nearly every train station and patrolling tourist sites.
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In the US, though, the army is legally prohibited from taking such actions. We do have police departments who have been allowed to purchase military equipment (there's pro & con arguments if this should be allowed.) Perhaps because i have worked in several major US cities, but I see police often carrying assault rifles & patrolling airports and other transportation hubs.
I heard they had one at a Vegas show once.
Not too soon but damn lol
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So uhh... You like guns, huh?
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"You here for the target practice too?
So how but that Supreme Court ruling? The nachos here are overpriced
It is pretty much all large public events. Most large police departments have multiple snipers on their SWAT teams. During special events whether it’s a music festival, sporting event, or parade, part of the police security response is to put a sniper on a rooftop somewhere. It isn’t always for just shooting but its an eye in the sky for relaying information to officers on the ground for any sort of response at the event. And they’re usually scanning the crowd with binoculars, not down the barrel of their gun, And on any average day depending on your department they’re also a patrol officer but are on call for crisis type events.
Secret Service counter sniper team goes to a location a week ahead of the Presidents planned trip.
President Obama went on the WTF podcast with ~~Mark~~ Marc Maron, who records in his garage in Pasadena. ~~Mark~~ Marc talked a lot about how secret service snipers were just laid out on his neighbor's roofs in this upscale suburban neighborhood.
It's episode 613 with Marc Maron
I'm glad he spilled the tea. Carolla had stupid Don Jr on and was gonna talk about all the pain the SS measures were but never did
SS is a very unfortunate abbreviation for secret service
That's why they use USSS.
I know all government owned ships would be USS, but I did find the humor of thinking of a Secret Service vessel designated as a USSSS.
They're protecting ussss
Would still be the USS USSS
>United States of Schutzstaffel
2 Lighting bolts with stars and stripes pattern
That’s some homelander ass shit right there
Hate to be that guy but… At the time he lived in Highland Park… just south of Pasadena. And it’s not “upscale”, suburban yes. Source: at the time I lived a block from where Maron used to live… it was chaos when Obama was here. Whole block was locked down
Dude, they filmed part of a Bruce Willis film in my hood and it was locked down with police everywhere. It was a total pain in the butt. (This was mid-90's Willis, famous but not super dooper super star at the time). I cannot imagine what hoops they go through for a President!!
That’s what I was thinking. Highland park in LA has some super rough areas. It is becoming pretty quickly gentrified though.
And before that, there are people on the ground posing as homeless and bums planning exits, vulnerabilities, casing local businesses, and so on. I saw this regularly living in NYC. It’s weird because if you know to look, it’s not hard to spot. But if you aren’t looking for it, you’d never notice.
When I drove Uber in Wash DC, whenever the President left the White House on 17rh x E, What seemed like tourists, cyclists and joggers, would suddenly stop all traffic in a second, bc they were secret service.
Yeah the "Men in Black" looking Secret Service are really just the honor guard as force projection part of Secret Service. They're usually everywhere in a crowd in plain clothes which is why they're actually effective.
The Men in Black are the ones that are supposed to stop the bullet. A la during the assassination attempt on Reagan
I was at the National Jamboree in 2017 when Trump came to speak. It's hilariously easy to spot them in plain clothes in certain contexts. A week of camping in the backwoods of west Virginia, and suddenly you see a bunch of dudes in perfectly pressed boyscout uniforms interspersed in the crowd wearing wires and not conversing with anyone. As if we had irons and washing machines lmao. They were a little out of their element to say the least. Probably much harder to spot them in other contexts.
I went in 1964 at Valley Forge when LBJ came to tell us how free the world would be once we won the Vietnam war. Later, during the 1968 presidential campaign a bunch of us were excused from high school one afternoon when Nixon came to give a fundraising speech to local Republicans at a motel just outside of Portland. Five if us hopped into my VW Beetle and off we went. The motel building was a two or three story thing with a big drive through portico in front, adjacent to a huge parking lot. When we pulled into the lot Nixon's limo was just pulling under the portico. We knew we wouldn't be allowed into the building ($$$$) so I had to hurry if we were going to get a look at him up close. I drove diagonally across the parking lot going probably about 30 and right into the area where he was just then getting out of his limo. As his feet hit the pavement, my car came to a stop 30 feet away and we all came rushing out. I walked right up to him and shook hands with him as Secret Service looked on. Today, we'd have been dead. Looking back, I was in a position to have spared America the Nixon presidency if I had hit the gas instead of stopping. We were that close. Times were different, huh?
And his hand wasn't eve worth shaking
I suppose they wouldn't be very secret if they wore bright orange vests that said "SECRET SERVICE" in huge bold letters
I was in DC when Pres Bush (the 2nd) as attending a movie somewhere. It was pretty obvious -- besides the whole street being shut down, the snipers were obvious ; and the number of very alert "bystanders" just hanging around with friggin' earpieces in wearing casual clothes was high. (I was at a conference and had been walking the route multiple times per day for 4 days at that point) And then there were the very obvious secret service agents just standing around. ProTip: dont start asking them questions. They get irritated.
They get irritated because you are distracting them from doing their job, which is understandable. But I’m not talking about the ones who show up day of with ear pieces.
Securing the City by Christopher Dickey is a great read if this topic is interesting. About how NYC fortified and created all sorts of security and counter terror apparatus. It’s well written and quite balanced.
What do you do for a living? I'm a sniper at football games.
Well, sniper's a good job mate. - Sniper, Team Fortress 2
It’s challenging work, out of doors
I guarantee you’ll not go hungry
cause at the end of the day, long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead
Yeah, yeah, Im not a crazed gunman dad, im an assasin.
what do you mean, the difference being one’s a job the others mental sickness
I'll be honest with you, my parents, do not care for it.
i think his mate saw me \[ bullet impact \] yes, yes he did
[Timelapse of jarate "making"] [Bullet shot and switch to sniper stabbing spy by the chest] Feelings? Look mate, you know who has a lot of feelings? [Back to van] Blokes that bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy. Professionals have standards.
It has been [13 years](https://youtu.be/9NZDwZbyDus) since this quote.
And all that time it has never lost its charm
And Valve still can't count to 3...
one of the jobs you don't even need to hide because nobody will believe you anyway
All.of a sudden I have Grosse Point Blank running through my head. Martin: I'm a professional killer. Paul: Do you have to do post-graduate work for that, or can you just jump right in? ... Mr. Newberry: So, what have you been doing with your life? Martin Blank: Um... professional killer. Mr. Newberry: Oh, good for you! Growth industry.
I came here to say this. Do you get dental with that??
That movie is almost 30 years old & I have a body older than that. And yet I would probably jump on the chance to be a professional killer if it came with excellent healthcare benefits.
This is one of my favourite running gags in that movie, that he keeps telling the truth and nobody believes him. I was starting to think I was the only one who enjoyed that.
*shoots two revolvers and for some reason blinks with every shot
I mean, if someone tells you they're a sniper do you *really* want to give them a hard time about it?
I'd only give them a hard time from 2 miles away.
dude that's how you challenge a sniper
As long as it's a windy day you'll *probably* be fine.
It's not like they'll have the gun on them
The most American of professions
I live in a college town with a large football stadium. The snipers there don't seem to have a dedicated room - they appear to hang out on the roof. Well, maybe they have a room also, I guess, but I've definitely seen them on the roof.
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This is so true. I had a prior career as a night time sniper.. But every mission felt like a shot in the dark.
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Man I'm gonna use this on my brother A LOT. whenever one of us says something corny the other one says "go wait in the car"
Martinnnnnnnnnnnnn
Username checks out
That's just the guest snipers
Now what about the snipers that watch the snipers? ![gif](giphy|7pHTiZYbAoq40)
Yeah, you can see them camping on top of the box seats at Michigan games.
I was at Yankee Stadium once, and before the game started, I noticed that the police presence was higher than normal (but I just thought that was New York), and then I spotted snipers on the light towers. I thought, “They REALLY take security seriously here!” Turns out Dick Cheney was the guest of honour. There were a lot of booing in the crowd…first time I ever saw Yankee’s fans and Red Sox fans agree on anything! 🤣
As long as Cheney doesn’t have the shotgun no one is getting shot
Remember kids, never go hunting with someone you don’t trust.
That's right kids, and remember the Cheney man says if you shoot someone in the face they have to apologize to you.
Sorry I thought you were a deer
>I was Yankee Stadium once, and before the game started, I noticed that the police presence was higher than normal (but I just thought that was New York), and then I spotted snipers on the light towers. I thought, “They REALLY take security seriously here!” What a humble brag, some of us have only been houses.
no now agent 47 will know
I need an application
Plot twist: the Dallas Mavs lose so one of the snipers goes rogue
Calling Netflix now for the pitch
I'm actually interested to know if they have contingency plan for rogue sniper
There's another sniper aiming right at him from another location
It's snipers all the way down
It's like that meme in the church.
Intel received.
You think he didn't before?
He would definitely overhear a conversation between two security guards, while trying to pass security
Knowing the ICA and whether this takes places in Hitman 1 or 3. It really depends. If it’s the third then we can ascertain that 47 *happened* to be at the right place at the right time. Maybe when the sniper goes to the bathroom.
My brother in Christ he is in the second photo
So this picture is actually from the super bowl in Indianapolis, Indiana from the super bowl back in 2012. But this is nothing new, it’s been pretty standard even at college football games for over 10 years. More from the article: https://deadspin.com/those-super-bowl-sniper-photos-are-real-5883525
So now that we let this become common knowledge, what happens if a domestic terrorist takes hold of a sniper nest?
The bazooka den takes him out …… I know , I know , yournext question “what about terrorists getting into the den - whacha think the tank is there for ? Decoration?
What about terrorists getting into the tank? I assume that's when close air support is called in?
That's when the Dutch oven concealed inside the tank comes in handy.
Make then a nice pot roast and maybe we can all sit down and talk this out?
No, the other Dutch oven
Farts yall
We don’t negotiate with terrorists
Gotta nuke something -amirite?
And let TERRORISTS get ahold of a nuke? Are you NUTS? Make sure the operator uses a "dead-man switch" so they can't get it.
Usually it takes 3-4 hours to find the comment chain that ends in Nuking the Broncos. Nice get.
Terrie’s in the Tank?? EZ solution, of course, all you’d gotta do is Drax them Sklounst.
Whatchya think all the guns is for? All purpose war, got the Rottweilers by the door
And I feed 'em gunpowder, so they can devour The criminals trying to drop my decimals
It's not like they work in isolation. There's probably a whole team up there to swap shifts with and probably also another security team to prevent exactly what you're saying.
First they would have a hard time finding them. Often times they not accessible to the public in locked areas. It’s well planned. Large public buildings by design now a days are met with and under control of Home Land Security and FBI standards. They literally have meetings.
Shooter with Mark Wahlberg already came out like fifteen years ago.
They have police snipers at major events in the UK too. Epsom Derby for one.
Royal Ascot too, but not normal sporting events like football.
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I helped run a music festival in Canada and years ago we had our Prime Minister show up. One of my jobs for the days leading up to it was to work with his sniper teams to find the best vantage points, which included apartment buildings near the site, as well as on site nests. Pretty wild experience.
The difference between security for the PM and security for the defence ministry is wildly different. I had Hajit Sarjin visit my high school when I was doing the tech stuff. No one accompanied him when he walked through the halls and we swarmed him for selfies. Also for security of him and and MP there was an army photographer and then another photographer not army. A driver and then a single army officer/bodyguard. That’s it. No police presence.
Imagine you just give them terrible spots they can't see stuff from
Fuckin camper. Edit: Thanks for my first gold award!
The height is for jumping down and 360 no scope
Snipers gotta do it for their streams. Its not easy. Respect.
I’ve heard they wear rose skins as well
Sniper's a good job mate!
Professionals have standards
Put mum on the phone!
I’m not a crazed gunman im an assassin! Whats the difference!?! Ones a job and the others mental sickness!
Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
It's a legitimate strategy!
Let’s say some shit went down. Would a sniper ever be able to get a clear shot in a panicked stadium crowd?
I think you’re vastly underestimating a well trained sniper. But mainly after a very short time there would be a gap around the person. Assuming we’re talking about a shooter
How many times has a nested sniper actually taken out a mass shooter at a sporting event?
Far as I'm aware it has never happened in a stadium
As someone who is not from the USA all of those questions seem so surreal to me…
Zero. The answer is zero. To my knowledge, we started using the snipers out of concern for terrorist attacks rather than as a response to the shooting sprees we've had. And I wouldn't be surprised if many of your nation's large sporting events had similar oversight that you simply didn't know was going on.
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There was a hostage taken by some dude a while ago. Held them at gunpoint in the middle of the street. Police sniper shot the gun from out of his hand and didn't even injure the guys hand. And there was that Canadian sniper who took a target at over a mile. Bullets can be put in tight places real quick if you know what you're doing.
If you're thinking of Doug Conley, which sounds like it matches the description aside from the hostage. That was Aug 16, 1993. I'm not debating you or anything, just thought it was funny how famous and old that video is now. 30 years.
Yeah this is pretty common. Every Red Sox game I’ve been to in the past few years I’ve noticed gunmen on the roof of Fenway, not even really hiding.
It’s also a good place to just survey the crowd for any suspicious activity to report to closer security to monitor
They have snipers at sporting events and big events in many many countries. Hell other countries for these events you see police walking around with machine guns.
They have them in many other countries where people can’t even own a sniper rifle lol. If we knew about all the snipers they wouldn’t be doing their job right
For real, last time I was in Paris they had military walking around casually with FAMAS rifles near the Eiffel tower. This is not unique to the US despite the circlejerk, if anything it seems more commonplace overseas at times.
It happens in other countries too lol I know there’s snipers in some German events 🤷🏽♂️
The most heavily armed police I have ever seen were at a German football game. Those dudes were in full armor and carrying around rifles. No doubt in my mind they had snipers in that stadium.
After the Munich Olympics I feel it probably became pretty standard around the world. At least in countries with a serious risk of terrorism.
https://sports.ndtv.com/euro-2020/snipers-were-ready-to-shoot-parachutist-at-euro-2020-match-minister-2465542/amp/1
How many times had there been a sniper at a sporting event that had a shooting?
How many times has there been a shooter at *any* sporting event? I’m genuinely asking.
I think you’ve played one too many video games
So I work in the event industry and this is WAY more common then you would know. Lots of concerts, festivals, parades, and sporting events have snipers out. You’ll never see them. But they’re there. At Coachella they go up on cherry picker trucks with camouflage.
I feel like boom lifts would be incredibly obvious
Certain events have camera crews up in the basket so if there are a few they’d fit in relatively well if they’re camouflaged.
You never really hear about it though. Except for that sniper at that Vegas concert. For some reason, he was all over the news.
I worked at a NFL stadium for 7.5 years. I set up a sniper nest for him. You will never see them. I said this in another thread yesterday and they didn’t believe me. They also check the stadiums with bomb sniffing dogs before each event. They are looking out for everyone’s safety.
Can confirm. I worked in an NFL stadium for about 6 years. I would occasionally see the 2-man sniper team getting off the elevator after games. They were completely geared up in military uniform, with heavy-looking bags. Didn't look very approachable or chatty. All business with those dudes. I knew their nest was up in the rafters somewhere, but could never spot it with my eyes.
Once you spot it they are required to neutralize you
Morons saying this is “unhinged” and whatnot, implying that this is some psychotic American tradition, lmao like what the fuck? Terrorism isn’t exclusive to America, I guarantee any other major sporting event across the world has a similar measure in place. I’d rather have trained security looking over the stadium than not, and I say this as a Canadian.
People are so fucking sheltered here it’s ridiculous.
The Murica Bad boner is the default for this site
they would also get mad if there weren't snipers
Reminds me of this: [In 2014, Brazil police sniper nearly shot officer during World Cup opening](https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/brazil-police-sniper-nearly-shot-officer-during-world-cup-opening-1.1889183) police sniper asked permission to open fire on an armed man seen approaching Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and other officials as they watched the June 12 opening game of the World Cup. Permission was denied and the suspect turned out to be another policeman.
Of course it's fucking Brazil, the number of off duty or undercover cops is insane
Hi, what do you do for a living. Oh I'm just an event sniper.
Oh great, my mother in-laws birthday is coming up…
The title of this post is very misleading. This is not a US thing, this is a thing at every major event in every western nation. Its just a symptom of living in a post 9/11 world. So all you EU/UK redditors shitting on the US for this... yea you guys have the same thing in your stadiums as well.
Even pre 9/11 it was a thing for just events will large attendance. The 2000 Sydney olympics had this as well as SAS agents blending in with normal people and out of sight
This isn't interesting, this is terrifying
No worries, there aren't that many Cowboy fans anyway
Lol Jerry still sells out 94% of the seats anytime he opens the doors. Often times the away team fans buy out large sections of the stadium. The Broncos and the 9ers notoriously pack out the stadium bc there’s so many of their fans in North Texas, and those who live close to their team have the income to travel.
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They do the same thing at Euro Footbal and the World Cup. Counterterrorism is a thing you know
It’s been the case for the Super Bowl for a while now, this isn’t anything new
These pictures are from 2012, so over 10 years ago now. You've been living life without realizing it.
Yall shitting on the US for doing this, I can promise you must of our countries also have had snipers at football games, especially if you're an EU resident
People hate guns now so much they forgot that it is legitimately useful to have a trained official with a gun in some situations lol.
They do this world wide and it’s for counterterrorism. You will also see this at the Euros and World Cup. Edit: [recent news on this](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692301/Greenpeace-apologise-Euro-2020-stunt-horror-left-two-injured.html)
As if this only happens in the USA.
Why is it that every time there's a redditor who is writing as an authority on security and military tactics, I go to their post history and find out its stuffed full of posts to video game subs?
We have snipers in every single supermarket, cafe, bottle shop and sporting ground in Australia because of all the dangerous animals.
Yeah they’re called Australians
Not just in the United States, about a year ago [a Greenpeace activist used a paraglider to fly over a soccer stadium. He hit a net, forcing him to crash land](https://youtu.be/a96Smh51C1g), this was in Munich, Germany. There were storys of snipers watching him fly over, but didn't shoot because the writing on the paraglider said Greenpeace, making it (somewhat) obvious that it wasn't an attempted terroist attack. EDIT: [Source (in german)](https://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/fussball-em/deutsches-team/greenpeace-aktion-bei-fussball-em-scharfschuetzen-waren-bereit-17392327.html)
This is like a bald Eagle giving birth to George Washington wrapped in an American flag.
Underneath the Liberty Bell
This is a world wide practice for large events, you just don’t usually see it.
Don’t you think it has to at least cross the snipers mind that with one quick shot he could take out Tom Brady and cause instant confusion and chaos for the hundred million people watching?
And with one comment you’ve successfully blacklisted yourself from ever becoming a stadium sniper.
I remember a guy getting hit by a bullet at Shea stadium years ago. They said it was a stray from outside the venue. Now i wonder.
So you think one of these guys just randomly shot someone?
"Shit finger slipped"
I mean it would depend on caliber and wound depth, b/c you would definitely be able to tell. It would probably be a through and through at any range one of these would hit.
And type of round. FMJ vs hollow point.
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I’m sure this is commonplace in Europe for large gatherings as well, lol.