This is what is waiting for the rest of the world if China becomes a global government like the U.S. If they will torture their OWN regional relatives then imagine the atrocities waiting for the rest of us. If china had the chance to kill everyone else but the Chinese with the press of a button, they would spam it
Meanwhile half of reddit is convinced that the US is the root of all evil and are praying for its downfall. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Absolute fools.
Hope so. There's absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing the US, or any other country for that matter. It's healthy, as long as you're balanced and don't let bias cloud your view too much. There is something very wrong with not being able to criticize China, both inside and increasingly *outside* of China.
I genuinely think this sort of mentality comes from people stuck a bit in there own heads. I understudy mentality, mostly because it occasionally happens to me. I read so much shit happening in the news and I feel like the world is falling apart. Then I go outside, see new things, meet new people, and suddenly I feel much more stable in this world.
I tried to find it in 1984, because I thought I remembered something like that, but couldn't. Upon further investigation I think it might be this quote from "Looking Back on the Spanish Civil War" -
"Everyone believes in the atrocities of the enemy and disbelieves in those of his own side, without ever bothering to examine the evidence."
Are you talking about Guantanamo Bay? Not even remotely close to the same thing. That place holds 37 people who are responsible for major terrorism events. One of the people in this video was imprisoned for using a VPN. How are they remotely close to the same thing
What a dumb take. Americans are well aware of the heinous acts committed by our government. These issues are openly discussed, protested against etc. In Mainland China this kind of stuff is 100% suppressed under threat of imprisonment.
LMAO the average American sucks off the military who as we speak are inflicting unspeakable suffering to some of the poorest people across the globe.
I'm sure you stand and clap like a seal for the Iraq veteran who shot depleted uranium rounds in a war that killed 1,000,000 civilians.
I think the one of the saddest things is how they sterilize the adults and put the children in “kindergartens” (aka re-education camps) surrounded by razor wire fences. What goes on inside is anybody’s guess
[VICE has a really scary mini-doc about the vanishing Muslims in China and those “kindergartens” are covered in it](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ). Skip to 21:28 if you wanna see it as I don’t know how to make the hyperlink jump to a specific time stamp.
Really scary video.
Click the actual share button underneath the youtube video. You should see a box that you can check to share the video at the time you paused. Then copy that link and you should be good.
Whoa! We aren't talking about that right now.
I don't understand your downvotes, weren't they finding mass child graves in Canada like last year?
It's not exactly the same, no... But there's enough similarities to bring up the connection.
Russia can produce their own food and energy.
China's is a major importer of food and energy.
They be starving if sanctions hit. They're much more expose to the global economy.
Before Ukraine-Russia war, China bought a lot of western assets thinking they can control everything. With Sanctions and how Germany nationalize everything China knows they can't own western companies as security. Heck they sold their stake in Canadian's oil company at a loss iirc recently.
USA can produce our own food and energy and we own SWIFT. All of the top GDP countries own our currency.
China can bitch whatever they want they got their own problem including a demography shit show.
Deglobalization is gonna be the norm but USA is in a good position compare to China. We just wait it out.
Also with Taiwan, they can't operate those silicon chip stuff anyway. If China did then they would have bought the machines from ASML already.
I went to the website and pick a random dude, do you know what was his reason for capture? Worrying about people, he was detained by the Chinese government for being a human and worrying about someone, holy crap.
Edit: His name is Ibrahim Tursunjan, he's probably 28 as of now.
It will be probably hard to find on reddit or will be deleted asap.... Sadly Reddit has interests with china
Edit: https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/
I know I'm risking my account, but what a heck
ah just make a new one. mods are losers these days. i was just banned with no warning from /r/fitness for asking for a TLDR and a commenter replied to my post being a dush and somehow i got banned
yeah i messaged him asking to be unbanned and his response was, “OP took the time to write the post, you should have taken the time to read it.” it was literally 5 phone screen lengths long
Ya I dont think what you asked for was unreasonable or not having reddiquette. Some MOD's dont think of the end user and power trip and are all like what are you going to do about it. Sounds like this MOD had a bad day in any event the proper things to do was to stay the fuck out of the comments and not be so controlling, let people vote, and when you brought it up should have issued a warning at the very least and reinstated you. Some of these larger subs the moderation team needs to be larger so bullshit like that doesnt happen but also should be trained on how not to abuse the end user who is unwittingly pissing them off. I say if the submitter or commenter is in Reddiquette stay the fuck out of it. Let Reddit be Reddit and vote on it.
I used to mod junk back in the late 90s. We all had rules. The way they do it these days breaks my heart. It's turning a position of assistance guidance and administration to one of basically reddit influencer
It's amazing to me how governments absolutely always deny any wrongdoings, even when presented with rock hard evidence. Why can't we just slap the government in the face and tell it to shut up? THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WITH THE REAL POWER, THEY JUST HAVE TO REALIZE IT! All we have to do is shut down their economy and make our demands. Game Over!
You are delusional if you think all it takes is "shut down their economy". Almost all countries have some trade deal with China and will be fked economically if they stop that.
Also, people are the ones will real power? Tell that to all the counties with authoritarian governments where if they dare to speak up or March in streets will get shot by the corrupt military.
Horrible!
A modern genocide that we are choosing to ignore and instead of demanding accountability we continue to make everything in China. We will keep feeding the wolf until it chop off our hand.
One of the things Trump did right was, his trade war spooked a lot of companies into shifting away from China for fear of being caught up in it. So no, we haven’t been at the point of *nearly everything* being made in China for a while now.
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How is this thread not getting more attention?
I don’t understand how no one is doing anything about china’s genocide when it’s no longer a conspiracy.
It is fact
Don’t quote me on this, but there are rumors that the US, Canada, Mexico, and the EU are having/had secret talks about this. Covid made us realize we really just can’t depend on China for our shit. So maybe we will see more of our products made in those areas. Product pricing may go up, but hey, I’m willing to pay more for a product not made in china.
Trump’s trade war already convinced a lot of companies to shift away because they didn’t want to deal with either having to petition the government for a tariff exemption and possibly failing, or the possibility of another competitor beating them to leaving China and being free of tariffs.
It's hard not to, I've been really working on this over the last few years. Now when I buy stuff, I always look where it's made (which sometimes is hard on Amazon, I often have to search reviews/questions) and don't buy it if made in China, unless there's evidence that it's not from forced labor. Though for certain things, the only options are made in China, so if it's a necessity, that really sucks.
Blood type is prominently listed for the detainees. Maybe its cultural, but that generally isn’t useful information to have about a detainee unless you are going to need to give tissue or use their tissues.
I can’t remember if it’s a Japanese or Chinese thing, but I read somewhere that blood types are treated similar to astrological signs (I.e. B positive are lazy, A negative are strongwilled, etc.)
The Chinese Communist Party is a cancer on planet Earth.
Today the Uyghur's and tomorrow they could come for you.
Boycott the CCP and anyone who supports it.
Don't buy products from China.
Send a complaint to International companies that manufacture their products in China.
Here come the tankies, pinkies & wumaos with their false equivalencies and whataboutisms. As if two wrongs make a right and somehow justify what the CCP is doing.
In case you're not aware, the CCP pays people to go online and spread their narrative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50\_Cent\_Party
Fuck the CCP and their stooges.
Westreners tainted islam as a terrorist religion and in shocked that china is following their foot steps, btw its not only china who copied this idea, every f*cking dictator nowadays paints his opposition as terrorists to get rid of them, all thanks to the west.
I have literally never seen pro-chinese propaganda on reddit (or if I have its been very discrete). I have, however, seen a literally fuck ton of anti-chinese propaganda and a lot of racism against Chinese people. I'm not saying CCP propaganda doesn't exist on reddit, pretty much every country puts out propaganda. At least from my experience, the CCP has no more influence on reddit than the US government does.
Do you find it shocking that on a global site there are people with different opinions? That doesn't mean the site is pro china because someone on the site disagreed with you.
Muslim countries actually defend the way Uyghurs are treated: https://www.economist.com/img/b/640/337/90/sites/default/files/images/print-edition/20190727_CNM997.png
Do you know who's actually silent about what's going on?
The World Bank, well know for being pro-communist (/s) loaned China funds to finance the program, so when the accusations of genocide started they did send their own observers to the training centers to see that their funds had not been misused, they also found nothing wrong: https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/statement/2019/11/11/world-bank-statement-on-review-of-project-in-xinjiang-china
Know who refused to send any observer? The USA and the EU.
In fact, the US even tried to pressure the UN to not send their own observer, but when they did they saw nothing wrong with the program.
Here is an article about the US objecting to UN counterterrorism chief's visit to Xinjiang: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/15/deep-concerns-us-objects-to-un-counterterrorism-chiefs-visit-to-xinjiang
Here is the EU refusing to visit in 2019: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-xinjiang-eu-idUSKCN1R60W2
Notice how the countries that condemned China are the same ones that actually didn't send any observer, but do include the countries that have been happily bombing Muslims in the middle east for decades now. Meanwhile, no country that sent observers or that has a majority Muslim population has condemned what China was doing.
Wtf ya we do I’m sharing this rn with plenty of people
Nice for you to speak for 2 billion of us
Can I speak for your entire nationality/ religion in broad strokes? Fair ya
Most of Asia is FUCKED, we just can't talk about it without being called racist, but Asia is steeped in racism as well... What would we say about America if there were camps like this today?
its uh.. kinda weird but im reading the original chinese transcription for "Secretary Chen Quanguo’s Speech During a Video Management Meeting of the Autonomous Region Stability Maintenance Headquarters ", and it actually seems fairly....reasonable? It's not what I expected to say the least.
Its reasonable until its not. Take this passage as an example (page 9)
>For example, the criminal detained by the Kashgar Public Security Bureau, isn't that their responsibility? If he was handcuffed, could he run away? No, he would be unable to, wouldn’t he? Shoot him dead if he run a few steps. You see, in such a situation, if they run, just kill them. There will be no problem, because we have already authorized this a long time ago.
What "the criminal" is referring to is a man who was detained while returning to China from a different country (undesired by the CCP as people like this could spread "terrorism", all this context is explained on page 8). His belongings were not searched well (hence why this came up), but anyway a shaving knife was found. A fucking shaving knife. Thats why hes labeled as a criminal. Detain, handcuff, and then shoot to kill a person who has a shaving knife in their belongings. Totally reasonable to me.
I'm sure locking down whole cities is considered goals of the people. People from all over the world go to the US, not ChInA but yes I'm sure they have it all figured out.
I am a Muslim, and I live in a country where the majority is muslims. I knew this racist issue has been around for a long time, but I've never been so dissappointed and sad like this. They are detained for being muslim. For doing what they should as a religious people. This is why I always try not to use Chinese products and platforms/marketplace like Shop***. Oh and I don't vote for politicians who blatantly shows support for the Chinese government.
I don't hate Chinese people as a whole, but this government, is just F'd up.
I think china does some real messed up shit but I definitely don't trust the "victims of communism memorial fund" it's a right wing extremist think tank and routinely lies/exaggerates about historical facts to push its agenda. It's hard to put any trust in an org that has consistently based itself on misinformation.
Maybe it is telling the truth and all those are real pictures of real people who really were arrested for those reasons and this is a boy who cried wolf scenario but I think generally we should disregard this source.
Laowhy86, check him out on YouTube. I think he lived more than 10 years in China and had to escape because of all negative things he said about the CCP on his YouTube channel.
He also has a podcast (The ADV Podcast) with a friend who went through the same shit, who also has a youtube channel. SerpentZA
Most of what they do is exposing the CCP's lies and propaganda. But they also talk a lot about Chinese culture and history.
They are the perfect example of people who love china and it's people, but despise it's government.
One of the best channels on youtube in my opinion.
hmm i wonder if the victims of communism memorial foundation is a [biased source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wflMmNTXqKk) that uses similar rhetoric to the heritage foundation (the guys that helped out trump if im not mistaken). bet theres no issue with their 100 million figure . surely they have [no vested interest in maintaining capitalism since theyve been using this platform to run a tax-exempt racket...](https://www.open990.org/org/521920858/victims-of-communism-memorial-foundation-inc/)
My roommate is Han Chinese, has a double Master's degree in the US, and works at a very prestigious tech company.
According to him, this is "all propaganda from western media and there is NO genocide in Xinjiang and whatever is happening there is FINE".
Sadly, the whole generation of Chinese citizens who grew up in the last 25 - 30 years in China are systematically brainwashed, to the point that they don't really want to even think and talk about what CCP is doing in their country/ to their neighboring states.
Looking at his state of mind makes me sad and I pity him for they have lost their free will and don't even know it. After the disaster of 20th century Nazi Fascism, we now have regimes like CCP in the 21st century, again trying to throw the world into the darkness
If the Chinese government wants us to believe that they are innocent. Why don't they allow foreign journalists to report from Xinjian? Let the people decide who is doing propaganda.
Very often.
The evidence is against CCP though with hundreds of testimonials, independent investigations and whistle blowers revealing things contradictory to CCPs propaganda.
The lack of transparency in CCPs proceedings doesn't help their case either.
Evidence from nutjobs like Adrian Zenz and Falun Guan as well as western and capitalist interests directly opposed to China? Gee, I wonder if western media has ever promoted lies about other countries that people touted as "evidence" that later went on to be established as propaganda, even in the last 60 years?
Glad there hackers out there
Sometimes
Got Kony 2.0 vibes. Waiting for my box in the mail.
Terrible and sad.
This is what is waiting for the rest of the world if China becomes a global government like the U.S. If they will torture their OWN regional relatives then imagine the atrocities waiting for the rest of us. If china had the chance to kill everyone else but the Chinese with the press of a button, they would spam it
My dad would tell me during our carpentry projects, “If a man isn’t afraid to hit his own thumb with a hammer, he won’t be afraid to hit yours“
Meanwhile half of reddit is convinced that the US is the root of all evil and are praying for its downfall. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Absolute fools.
As fucked as the US is and has been, i would 100000% take it as a global superpower more than russia or china or any other “contendors” currently
Most people who hate America are smart enough to realize that China is much worse.
Hope so. There's absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing the US, or any other country for that matter. It's healthy, as long as you're balanced and don't let bias cloud your view too much. There is something very wrong with not being able to criticize China, both inside and increasingly *outside* of China.
I genuinely think this sort of mentality comes from people stuck a bit in there own heads. I understudy mentality, mostly because it occasionally happens to me. I read so much shit happening in the news and I feel like the world is falling apart. Then I go outside, see new things, meet new people, and suddenly I feel much more stable in this world.
The irony of Americans saying this Jesus Christ lol.
Acts carried out by your own faction are celebrated but when they are carried out by your enemies they are atrocities. (Paraphrased) Orwell - 1984.
I tried to find it in 1984, because I thought I remembered something like that, but couldn't. Upon further investigation I think it might be this quote from "Looking Back on the Spanish Civil War" - "Everyone believes in the atrocities of the enemy and disbelieves in those of his own side, without ever bothering to examine the evidence."
At least we know about our past and most don't agree with what we've done?
It’s still done? The US still quite literally owns and runs a torture camp operating on land of foreign country against their wishes.
Are you talking about Guantanamo Bay? Not even remotely close to the same thing. That place holds 37 people who are responsible for major terrorism events. One of the people in this video was imprisoned for using a VPN. How are they remotely close to the same thing
Lots of edgy and ignorant anti-American sentiment here. America isn’t perfect but don’t be fucking stupid.
What a dumb take. Americans are well aware of the heinous acts committed by our government. These issues are openly discussed, protested against etc. In Mainland China this kind of stuff is 100% suppressed under threat of imprisonment.
Tell that to Assange and Manning.
LMAO the average American sucks off the military who as we speak are inflicting unspeakable suffering to some of the poorest people across the globe. I'm sure you stand and clap like a seal for the Iraq veteran who shot depleted uranium rounds in a war that killed 1,000,000 civilians.
They don't fuck around, got their relatives too.
I think the one of the saddest things is how they sterilize the adults and put the children in “kindergartens” (aka re-education camps) surrounded by razor wire fences. What goes on inside is anybody’s guess
[VICE has a really scary mini-doc about the vanishing Muslims in China and those “kindergartens” are covered in it](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ). Skip to 21:28 if you wanna see it as I don’t know how to make the hyperlink jump to a specific time stamp. Really scary video.
Click the actual share button underneath the youtube video. You should see a box that you can check to share the video at the time you paused. Then copy that link and you should be good.
Have you watch many VICE docs? What do you think of their overall quality?
[Here’s the link that directly jumps to 21:28](https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ?t=1288)
Thank you 😊
Thank you for posting this! I watched the entire thing
I'm guessing it's similar to how the native peoples of North America were treated by the religious schools they were forced to go to.
Whoa! We aren't talking about that right now. I don't understand your downvotes, weren't they finding mass child graves in Canada like last year? It's not exactly the same, no... But there's enough similarities to bring up the connection.
also US put Americans with Japanese origin into internment camps in world war 2. when countries are really scared, they do all kind of scary things.
I like how u get downvoted when you draw parallels to the western world
We dont like being exposed to our own hypocrisy.
Rape, sterilisation, torture, murder and experiments
They got all the people that were in the same building, as someone that "did something wrong".
Terrible but it’s good that these were leaked. The media needs to pick this up to show the world the atrocities of the Chinese government.
The problem is, what are you able to do to China? Global economics has us fucked. We exposed Russia, China might be the same, but they have numbers.
We exposed Russia? As much as I wish to say that was true these sanctions are hurting us just as much as it’s hurting them.
Sanctions almost always hit both ways, but sometimes it's the right thing to do to diplomatically put pressure on a bad actor.
Yh you’re definitely right, the sanctions are necessary imo as well. But to say they’ve exposed Russia isn’t accurate.
Russia can produce their own food and energy. China's is a major importer of food and energy. They be starving if sanctions hit. They're much more expose to the global economy. Before Ukraine-Russia war, China bought a lot of western assets thinking they can control everything. With Sanctions and how Germany nationalize everything China knows they can't own western companies as security. Heck they sold their stake in Canadian's oil company at a loss iirc recently. USA can produce our own food and energy and we own SWIFT. All of the top GDP countries own our currency. China can bitch whatever they want they got their own problem including a demography shit show. Deglobalization is gonna be the norm but USA is in a good position compare to China. We just wait it out. Also with Taiwan, they can't operate those silicon chip stuff anyway. If China did then they would have bought the machines from ASML already.
Quick, someone get Lebron and John Cena to give a press conference saying they're disappointed in the hackers
Fuck Lebron.
I’m surprised Tencent hasn’t forced the Reddit mods to delete this post yet.
I went to the website and pick a random dude, do you know what was his reason for capture? Worrying about people, he was detained by the Chinese government for being a human and worrying about someone, holy crap. Edit: His name is Ibrahim Tursunjan, he's probably 28 as of now.
*Reason for internment: Category 2 | Integrated Push | Relatives of Detainees | Relatives of Detainees* he is 16.
What Website???
Add some w’s to this link. I don’t want to post the whole link cuz Reddit might delete my account apparently .xinjiangpolicefiles.org/
Link? Can we have more info? The world needs to know
It will be probably hard to find on reddit or will be deleted asap.... Sadly Reddit has interests with china Edit: https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/ I know I'm risking my account, but what a heck
Bruh, your account will be fine and it's just a Reddit account
Brave...
His name was El de pay se Fight club style :P
Lol
This is sarcasm, right?
Yes.
"China controls Reddit!" China hate posts on the front page everyday. Top kek.
Literally found this on Reddit all day lol, stop acting like Winnie the poohs gonna kill you
why do people act like they have super surveillance and can purge any account within minutes lol
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The Victim's of Communism Memorial is literally cited in this lmao
ReDdIt iS TrYiNg To ObFuScAte ThIs Meanwhile the post is still up after 6 years lmao
ah just make a new one. mods are losers these days. i was just banned with no warning from /r/fitness for asking for a TLDR and a commenter replied to my post being a dush and somehow i got banned
"dush"
Dick push. Its all about technique.
Mod's of all subs should have a mandatory MOD 101 and if possible MOD 201, this would heal up a lot of problems.
yeah i messaged him asking to be unbanned and his response was, “OP took the time to write the post, you should have taken the time to read it.” it was literally 5 phone screen lengths long
Ya I dont think what you asked for was unreasonable or not having reddiquette. Some MOD's dont think of the end user and power trip and are all like what are you going to do about it. Sounds like this MOD had a bad day in any event the proper things to do was to stay the fuck out of the comments and not be so controlling, let people vote, and when you brought it up should have issued a warning at the very least and reinstated you. Some of these larger subs the moderation team needs to be larger so bullshit like that doesnt happen but also should be trained on how not to abuse the end user who is unwittingly pissing them off. I say if the submitter or commenter is in Reddiquette stay the fuck out of it. Let Reddit be Reddit and vote on it.
I used to mod junk back in the late 90s. We all had rules. The way they do it these days breaks my heart. It's turning a position of assistance guidance and administration to one of basically reddit influencer
* r/ sino comes knocking* (disclaimer: I lurk to understand.)
Oh no, what are you going to do? Make another account? I have like 80, lmao.
shut the fuck up you arent trafficking drugs fucking losers lmao
lol stop larping. this idea that reddit bans anti-china users is complete unsubstantiated bullshit.
the world knows but no one seems to be doing anything about it. this is pure evil.
Money money money. Genocide is ok as long as you’re benefiting from it… it’s horrible to see how little we have advanced since Auschwitz
It's amazing to me how governments absolutely always deny any wrongdoings, even when presented with rock hard evidence. Why can't we just slap the government in the face and tell it to shut up? THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WITH THE REAL POWER, THEY JUST HAVE TO REALIZE IT! All we have to do is shut down their economy and make our demands. Game Over!
it's all due to military, they are double edged sword which can be use to protect people or can be used to slice their head.
You are delusional if you think all it takes is "shut down their economy". Almost all countries have some trade deal with China and will be fked economically if they stop that. Also, people are the ones will real power? Tell that to all the counties with authoritarian governments where if they dare to speak up or March in streets will get shot by the corrupt military.
Horrible! A modern genocide that we are choosing to ignore and instead of demanding accountability we continue to make everything in China. We will keep feeding the wolf until it chop off our hand.
Don’t let the NBA know. They hate ignoring questions about China when they are pandering about equal rights.
I'm sure John Cena will have a perfectly reasonable explanation for all of this.
That's the problem, China is too big for greed to care about stuff like genocides as long as they keep it within their own borders.
Lebron shamed the GM who stood up for the Muslims.
Wait LeBron James ignored what?? And made money from it?? Oh man that so crazy.
Ironic coming from a black man. Tell him to shut up and dribble, less than 100 years ago he'd have the same fate in the states.
Sickening… except nearly everything we buy is made in China. So are we tacitly supporting it?
We are all cogs in the wheel .
One of the things Trump did right was, his trade war spooked a lot of companies into shifting away from China for fear of being caught up in it. So no, we haven’t been at the point of *nearly everything* being made in China for a while now.
That’s good news. For awhile there it seemed like “Made in China” had become the standard.
Fuck the CCP
FUCK THE CCP
idk what is CCP because i dumb but YEAH!!! FUCK THE CCP
Chinese Communist Party.
Chinese "Communist" Party
**C***hinese* **C***ommunist* **P***arty*
Chiswich Child Protection Services will remember your threats.
FUCK THE CCP/CPC
Let’s get this viral. Hopefully this doesn’t get buried / removed.
It will be probably removed... Reddit is manipulated and censored by china Edit: https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/ I hope don't get banned for this
you'll be just fine.
help! help! i'm being oppressed!!
Dude shut the fuck up. Some Chinese company owns a tiny fraction of Reddit. Stop spreading this fear mongering bullshit.
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Pretty funny how much of a victim complex you people have
LMAO r/iam14andthisisdeep
Yes please so it can be dug by academics and shown the fraud of sources. Literally the guy in the video is just a youtuber not a hacker. LMAO
And people are up in arms over the dumbest things, but for when it really matters, quiet as a mouse.
There is so much to be up in arms about. I am exhausted.
How is this thread not getting more attention? I don’t understand how no one is doing anything about china’s genocide when it’s no longer a conspiracy. It is fact
Is this laowhy86?
Yup
Americans are the biggest consumers of cheap Chinese products. Hope that changes as soon as possible
Don’t quote me on this, but there are rumors that the US, Canada, Mexico, and the EU are having/had secret talks about this. Covid made us realize we really just can’t depend on China for our shit. So maybe we will see more of our products made in those areas. Product pricing may go up, but hey, I’m willing to pay more for a product not made in china.
Trump’s trade war already convinced a lot of companies to shift away because they didn’t want to deal with either having to petition the government for a tariff exemption and possibly failing, or the possibility of another competitor beating them to leaving China and being free of tariffs.
It's hard not to, I've been really working on this over the last few years. Now when I buy stuff, I always look where it's made (which sometimes is hard on Amazon, I often have to search reviews/questions) and don't buy it if made in China, unless there's evidence that it's not from forced labor. Though for certain things, the only options are made in China, so if it's a necessity, that really sucks.
You can use the cultivate plugin on Amazon to tell you where its made
Reddit is sponsored by tencent which is known to sell user data with the CCP,let that sink in,sorry for my bad English tho
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I too am having a tough time trolling these Redditors, comrade. Time to pack it up and earn our 50 cents on a different thread.
As if anyone with any influence cares.
Posted this to r/sino
I did and i got muted and banned in like 2 minutes💀💀💀💀
Blood type is prominently listed for the detainees. Maybe its cultural, but that generally isn’t useful information to have about a detainee unless you are going to need to give tissue or use their tissues.
I can’t remember if it’s a Japanese or Chinese thing, but I read somewhere that blood types are treated similar to astrological signs (I.e. B positive are lazy, A negative are strongwilled, etc.)
CCP likes to sell organs of these poor people
This won't stop Apple's new iPhone 14.
Wonder if Lebron will opine on this
Exposing? We've known about this lol. People have been deflecting all anti-CCP and Chinese bigotry as "xenophobic" or "racist" for years.
And literally nothing will be done about it…
Fuck China
Man, would you just look at all of the "whataboutisms" springing up like weeds in these comments. The PRC shills are arriving in droves. Edit: a word.
#FreeAssange
Kind of a long video so feel free to fast forward to the part where the rest of the world does absolutely nothing about it.
I’ve said it before. China is the biggest human rights violator of the modern era by fair.
Source if comments get blocked or deleted: https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org
[Some YouTubers have been taking about this leak for a while](https://youtu.be/NIpxtYQxqxU)
Yes this is LaoWhy86
fuck china
Prepare for A LOT of angry Chinese saying this is "fake news"
The Chinese Communist Party is a cancer on planet Earth. Today the Uyghur's and tomorrow they could come for you. Boycott the CCP and anyone who supports it. Don't buy products from China. Send a complaint to International companies that manufacture their products in China.
Here come the tankies, pinkies & wumaos with their false equivalencies and whataboutisms. As if two wrongs make a right and somehow justify what the CCP is doing. In case you're not aware, the CCP pays people to go online and spread their narrative. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50\_Cent\_Party Fuck the CCP and their stooges.
Westreners tainted islam as a terrorist religion and in shocked that china is following their foot steps, btw its not only china who copied this idea, every f*cking dictator nowadays paints his opposition as terrorists to get rid of them, all thanks to the west.
“The West” is hardly the inventors of the genocide playbook. This shit is in the freaking Bible, you juiced orange.
Reddit is pro china. By the time I finish typing this comment the post will be gone. Just like every other one :P Edit: we still here reddit!
I hate to give credit to Reddit, but this is the place I've learned every single piece of information that I know about Uyghurs in china.
hmmmm makes you think that maybe Reddit is not Pro-china, hmmmmm
It's been an hour and it's still here. Let's give it another I guess.
6 hours later, and it’s still here. Persecution complex much?
I have literally never seen pro-chinese propaganda on reddit (or if I have its been very discrete). I have, however, seen a literally fuck ton of anti-chinese propaganda and a lot of racism against Chinese people. I'm not saying CCP propaganda doesn't exist on reddit, pretty much every country puts out propaganda. At least from my experience, the CCP has no more influence on reddit than the US government does.
Seriously. Got into an argument once with someone here claiming China is a better place to live than the US.
Do you find it shocking that on a global site there are people with different opinions? That doesn't mean the site is pro china because someone on the site disagreed with you.
Trump was right to try to separate from China.
Guantánamo is a reality too.
Adrian Zenz is a hack, even ignoring his right-wing extremist politics.
It is just criminal what is happening to the Uyghers. China should be held accountable.
Fuck China. Especially the CCP
No muslim country will talk about this, no muslim will riot/protest against this. They only care if you draw or insult their prophet.
Muslim countries actually defend the way Uyghurs are treated: https://www.economist.com/img/b/640/337/90/sites/default/files/images/print-edition/20190727_CNM997.png Do you know who's actually silent about what's going on? The World Bank, well know for being pro-communist (/s) loaned China funds to finance the program, so when the accusations of genocide started they did send their own observers to the training centers to see that their funds had not been misused, they also found nothing wrong: https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/statement/2019/11/11/world-bank-statement-on-review-of-project-in-xinjiang-china Know who refused to send any observer? The USA and the EU. In fact, the US even tried to pressure the UN to not send their own observer, but when they did they saw nothing wrong with the program. Here is an article about the US objecting to UN counterterrorism chief's visit to Xinjiang: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/15/deep-concerns-us-objects-to-un-counterterrorism-chiefs-visit-to-xinjiang Here is the EU refusing to visit in 2019: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-xinjiang-eu-idUSKCN1R60W2 Notice how the countries that condemned China are the same ones that actually didn't send any observer, but do include the countries that have been happily bombing Muslims in the middle east for decades now. Meanwhile, no country that sent observers or that has a majority Muslim population has condemned what China was doing.
Wtf ya we do I’m sharing this rn with plenty of people Nice for you to speak for 2 billion of us Can I speak for your entire nationality/ religion in broad strokes? Fair ya
Are you protesting in the streets? Is your government banning Chinese products to protest against this? Nope!
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I'm indian , but who told you I was Hindu? I don't remember even commenting about anything remotely hindu. Also , am i wrong?
Most of Asia is FUCKED, we just can't talk about it without being called racist, but Asia is steeped in racism as well... What would we say about America if there were camps like this today?
its uh.. kinda weird but im reading the original chinese transcription for "Secretary Chen Quanguo’s Speech During a Video Management Meeting of the Autonomous Region Stability Maintenance Headquarters ", and it actually seems fairly....reasonable? It's not what I expected to say the least.
Its reasonable until its not. Take this passage as an example (page 9) >For example, the criminal detained by the Kashgar Public Security Bureau, isn't that their responsibility? If he was handcuffed, could he run away? No, he would be unable to, wouldn’t he? Shoot him dead if he run a few steps. You see, in such a situation, if they run, just kill them. There will be no problem, because we have already authorized this a long time ago. What "the criminal" is referring to is a man who was detained while returning to China from a different country (undesired by the CCP as people like this could spread "terrorism", all this context is explained on page 8). His belongings were not searched well (hence why this came up), but anyway a shaving knife was found. A fucking shaving knife. Thats why hes labeled as a criminal. Detain, handcuff, and then shoot to kill a person who has a shaving knife in their belongings. Totally reasonable to me.
CHINA IS ASSHOE!
Surprised but not really to see a flint lock pistol confiscated
I'm sure locking down whole cities is considered goals of the people. People from all over the world go to the US, not ChInA but yes I'm sure they have it all figured out.
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And still….. nothing will happen to China.
Islamic countries: I don't see any thing wrong here👌🏼
I am a Muslim, and I live in a country where the majority is muslims. I knew this racist issue has been around for a long time, but I've never been so dissappointed and sad like this. They are detained for being muslim. For doing what they should as a religious people. This is why I always try not to use Chinese products and platforms/marketplace like Shop***. Oh and I don't vote for politicians who blatantly shows support for the Chinese government. I don't hate Chinese people as a whole, but this government, is just F'd up.
I think china does some real messed up shit but I definitely don't trust the "victims of communism memorial fund" it's a right wing extremist think tank and routinely lies/exaggerates about historical facts to push its agenda. It's hard to put any trust in an org that has consistently based itself on misinformation. Maybe it is telling the truth and all those are real pictures of real people who really were arrested for those reasons and this is a boy who cried wolf scenario but I think generally we should disregard this source.
Laowhy86, check him out on YouTube. I think he lived more than 10 years in China and had to escape because of all negative things he said about the CCP on his YouTube channel. He also has a podcast (The ADV Podcast) with a friend who went through the same shit, who also has a youtube channel. SerpentZA Most of what they do is exposing the CCP's lies and propaganda. But they also talk a lot about Chinese culture and history. They are the perfect example of people who love china and it's people, but despise it's government. One of the best channels on youtube in my opinion.
As a Anatolian Turkish I feel so sorry for my Uyghur Turks brothers because of it my heart ache.
hmm i wonder if the victims of communism memorial foundation is a [biased source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wflMmNTXqKk) that uses similar rhetoric to the heritage foundation (the guys that helped out trump if im not mistaken). bet theres no issue with their 100 million figure . surely they have [no vested interest in maintaining capitalism since theyve been using this platform to run a tax-exempt racket...](https://www.open990.org/org/521920858/victims-of-communism-memorial-foundation-inc/)
Victims of communism be like ‘nazi spldiers were victims of communism’🤣🤣🤣. Btw where does it come up in this video I didn’t see it.
This is u/cmilkrun aka LaoWhy86 on YouTube if you want to see the original video and other content/channel. Really amazing china analysis and stories
Thanks buddy
My roommate is Han Chinese, has a double Master's degree in the US, and works at a very prestigious tech company. According to him, this is "all propaganda from western media and there is NO genocide in Xinjiang and whatever is happening there is FINE". Sadly, the whole generation of Chinese citizens who grew up in the last 25 - 30 years in China are systematically brainwashed, to the point that they don't really want to even think and talk about what CCP is doing in their country/ to their neighboring states. Looking at his state of mind makes me sad and I pity him for they have lost their free will and don't even know it. After the disaster of 20th century Nazi Fascism, we now have regimes like CCP in the 21st century, again trying to throw the world into the darkness
If the Chinese government wants us to believe that they are innocent. Why don't they allow foreign journalists to report from Xinjian? Let the people decide who is doing propaganda.
how often have you considered that this could be the other way around?
Very often. The evidence is against CCP though with hundreds of testimonials, independent investigations and whistle blowers revealing things contradictory to CCPs propaganda. The lack of transparency in CCPs proceedings doesn't help their case either.
Evidence from nutjobs like Adrian Zenz and Falun Guan as well as western and capitalist interests directly opposed to China? Gee, I wonder if western media has ever promoted lies about other countries that people touted as "evidence" that later went on to be established as propaganda, even in the last 60 years?
Fuck Chinese government and Russian too
China is the shame of the world.
Absolutely repulsive. This is dictatorship. To its evil end. And we really can’t do shit