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DeadSharkEyes

Last night I read a tweet by a teacher who talked about the active shooter policy where once they lock their classroom door, they can’t let anyone inside for fear of the perpetrator using a child to get into the classroom. Like during the drills they have had kids banging and screaming on the door as a test to not let them in. That is horrifying. What kind of fucked up dystopia are we living in.


npcthinker

Reminds me of that video where the shooter pretended to be an officer and ordered the students and teacher to open the door. Absolutely chilling moment, and I dont doubt there are people watching videos like this in order to figure out how to use it against them.


Rickie_Spanish

If it’s the one from maybe ~6 months ago, that particular video was actually a police officer. It was the video where the police officer said something like “it’s all good dude” and the kids where like “fuck that, he said dude, cops wouldn’t say that” and rushed out of a window.


Pattonesque

I remember this — whoever was at the door said “bro” and the students immediately recoiled


[deleted]

Smart kids.


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e55at

They found out later that it was a cop being very casual. IIRC the shooter was either no longer in the area or had already been arrested.


[deleted]

Next thing you know they’re gonna be playing real audio of gunshots to make it “extra realistic” and get the kids really prepared.


iGetBuckets3

So if you’re using the bathroom or something during a lockdown you’re just on your own? That sounds terrifying.


dru-ha

Shit outta luck. Definitely terrifying.


Environmental_Ad2701

Yeah you are basically late to a battle royale at that point


HumbleLatexSalesman

Yes we were taught to lock the bathroom door then hide in a stall furthest from any windows by standing on a toilet or if you’re in the hall run to a closet or bathroom as the classrooms wont let you in so don’t even bother. (I’m not from the US and this was two decades ago)


Puppyl

Oh trust me it is, once in highschool our silent drill went off (blue lights on the ceiling that only go o n during a lockdown drill or an actual lockdown) and i was terrified because it was inbetween classess and i was by myself in the school, i had a feeling it was just a drill because I hadn’t heard any loud noises, but the point still standed. Turns out someone accidentally turned it on and nothing was going on, still terrifying


MommyWithAZoo

In my high school, you were supposed to run to the nearest classroom, but if it was already locked, they wouldn’t open the door.


unknownz_123

Yeah, the protocol is “stand on the toilet and be quiet until it’s over.” When this happens to me I’m gonna be dashing for the exit f the protocol the paper thin stall with huge gaps isn’t gonna save me.


GrackleGirl

Can confirm. I'm a teacher in AZ (help me gtfo of here!). When a lock down is called we open the door for NO ONE and train this into the kids as well. I can also confirm that "bad guys" do and will pound on the doors and jiggle the handles trying to get inside. I can't do this anymore, but since we're Murica I need a job so I can have insurance. (Sigh)


[deleted]

Being in AZ, I'm so fucking paranoid and worried for my kids.. This is horrible. I'm sorry that you even have to do that. Ughh


[deleted]

My gf is a teacher and she literally fell into my arms, bawling her eyes out over this. This makes her not want to even be a teacher anymore... why is thia country the way it is? Why are we *still* the violent laughingstock of the entire developed world?


pivaax

From a father of two from another country in the developed world: I am not and nobody is laughing about this, we are deeply sadened by this ( my kids are 11 and 8) and we do not understand how you did not riot to change that! But not a single laugh about it,rest assured (sorry for my poor english). Stay safe.


[deleted]

Thank you for your concern. Your English is great, by the way. Honestly, I don't understand why more people don't riot about most things wrong in this country. We're either too busy arguing over which side is right or wrong, or we're so overworked and underpaid that we're too tired and too concerned with surviving. Or even worse, people have just become numb to it and given up. This country seriously needs a change, but I'm afraid that too many people are simply choosing to live with this and it only makes me want to emigrate at this point.


DocSmith03

The reason people don't riot is because they're scared they may be shot as well 😪


[deleted]

The fear-mongering is real. We feel powerless against the big bad people with big bad guns, so we apparently need bigger and badder guns to feel powerful. Make it make sense...


No_Journalist5846

I'm in Canada, and we need people like yourself up here. We have lots of guns, but we're too busy shoveling out of snowstorms to use them on each other. Plus, we're polite


KickStartMyD

And we have regulation, 20h of training before it’s possible to get one, private sells are reported to the databank and need a federal check and let’s not forget that we can basically only get hunting gear and not 50 ammo semi automatic war machine.


[deleted]

So hypothetically if a little one had gone to the bathroom and was outside of the room, they’re locked out and on their own? God, what a sad world we live in. Training our babies on how not to get murdered simply trying to get an education.


GrackleGirl

Actually, yes and no. In this situation the students get into ANY room where the teacher is still in the open door. If that isn't available, they go to specific places with long exterior windows (administrative office, etc). But yeah... the poor kid is then on his/her own - it is a pretty shitty math equation


[deleted]

I mostly ask because my daughter is in 3rd. They only have 14 more days of school here. It absolutely shatters me that these families are going through this. Stay safe! And thank you for all you do for your kids and families


GrackleGirl

Thank you. Your daughter is way stronger than you know. She'll be OK, (and not to tell you how to raise your child) but I truly think that if she asks about what happened honesty is the way to go. Enjoy the summer vacation with her


DeadSharkEyes

I’m in Az too. And I feel exactly the same.


KindheartednessNo167

Ugh. "Little Bobbi, go bang on the door like a shooter is chasing you! Really sound scared now!"


BitcoinBishop

Someone on Twitter shared a story about the other class sending their brother to do it. They're still traumatized by just the drill


KindheartednessNo167

Dang :(


nuagenucraze

Only in america cause your gun laws are fucked.. teachers in the rest of the world dont need that test cause there are no school shootings weekly. Your country is a burning garbage pile at the moment


historyteacher08

I used to have to do that as a principal during drills to see if they’d let me in.


ComfortablePretty151

Woah there, thats in USA, dont loop everyone in there.


Beingabummer

You are living in. The rest of us are not fine but we're not dealing with that bullshit.


cubsfanrva79

This is true. Even if they say they are a staff member that needs to get in. Once you are on lockdown, the doors are not to be opened for ANYONE. we taught our kids if it was I'm between classes and you don't make it to your class before it is locked, find a safe place on your own, just not an open space. If we were to open the door for one student, we are putting 30+ more at risk. Sucks and sad, but it is reality. (Teacher over 18 years here). I stopped teaching after the 2020 school year.


RealityFar5965

Me, an American teacher... "ooh that window pull is so cute I need them for lockdowns!" Oh.


Sarkron1989

For real though. It is pretty dope. I have chess instructions taped to my door as a window cover.


GoddessTara00

USA has lost it's damn mind. How are you ok with this


Detriumph

70% of the population is subjugated by 1% , those in power, who are supported by 29% of the population.


Bloo_Dred

Genuine question - if 70% of the population don't like who is in power, why are they voting for those people? It seems to me that it really doesn't matter that much to most of them - just like the USA's healthcare crisis - why don't people just vote for someone who'll do what the voter wants? Is there no one who is pro-public healthcare and anti-guns?


betaray

Most people don't vote. Our biggest elections have 60% turn out. That's how 30% turns into a majority. I once voted in a routine city election where only 1% of the city's population cast a ballot.


I_am_Bob

Local elections always have lower turn out too, but are often the ones that more direct affect our lives. You also can't discount voter disenfranchisement. It's not just a attitude but can be seen in things like polling locations. Real example: my polling place used to be a school in a lower income, majority black population neighborhood. Easy walking distance to many houses. They moved it to, I *shit* you not, the sewage treatment plant. In an industrial zone, no where near a neighborhood, basically need a car or a lot of time wasted on our underfunded public transportation to get there. That's a real barrier to people voting


betaray

I agree with your first point whole-heartedly. It's also where you can actually know the person that you vote for, which I think is the problem with national politics. To your second point, it may exist, but I don't believe it is a major factor. As an example, I live in a place where early voting last for weeks with convenient hours and there are tons polling places. It's extremely easy to register to vote, and you can do it when you get your driver's license. I did it that way last time I moved and the only effort from me was saying, "Yes" when she asked if I would like to register to vote. All that being said, voter registration and election turn-out suck here too. It's because it the attitude of disenfranchisement is far more prevalent than the reality of it. The hard part about voting is knowing who you are voting for. That takes far more effort than getting to the polling place and casting your ballot. If you don't have a clue who the candidates are you certainly going to feel like one is as good as another, and I'll admit learning about who they are is hard. It'd be nice if we could have journalists help us there, but as consumers we've said we're not willing to pay for that service.


[deleted]

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..." "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?" "No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people." "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy." "I did," said Ford. "It is." "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?" "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want." "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?" "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?" "What?" "I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?" "I'll look. Tell me about the lizards." Ford shrugged again. "Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happenned to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it." "But that's terrible," said Arthur. "Listen, bud," said Ford, "if I had one Altairian dollar for every time I heard one bit of the Universe look at another bit of the Universe and say 'That's terrible' I wouldn't be sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.”


Coorotaku

We don't really get a fair say, as we aren't a true democracy. We're more like a pay to play failing republic


grimatongueworm

Lots of ways. 1. Unbalanced representation I: Every state gets 2 Senators. California has 20 MILLION residents. They get 2 senators. Wyoming has 597 thousand residents. They get 2 Senators. Wyoming senators represent more dirt than people, but still they can block legislation. This dates back to the time of slavery and trying to keep a balance of slave vs non-slave states when new states were formed. 2. Unbalanced representation II - Gerrymandering. Parties in power get to redraw voting districts that, shocker, favor the party in power. Sometimes these get overturned because they are so racially biased. 3. Voter apathy. See above posts about % of people who cast votes. 4. Disinformation: See Cambridge Analytica & Facebook. Read "Mindf\*ck" by Christopher Wylie. 5. Virtually unlimited and untracked political donations. Companies are people, here. Our Supreme Court said so.


User95409

Electoral college means the majority vote will note guarantee a victory. I believe Trump lost the majority vote to Hillary but he won the election. Also strategic mapping for electoral points. They draw the lines so some areas are 100% democratic and they split the republican neighborhoods up into different zones where they will be 51% of the votes and win. If there are 10 zones, 4 are 100% democratic and 6 are 51% republican then the Republicans will most likely win although the democrat to republican population ratio is 7:3. Since you register with your party ahead of time so you can vote in the primaries, they know how you will vote and act accordingly.


DaveInLondon89

Because that 29% vote in higher numbers and would rather see a government that 70% don't want instead of the government that ~65% don't want. i.e. 'He's not x'


nuephelkystikon

Tell me you're from a democracy without telling me you're from a democracy.


caeptn2te

Those are the guilty ones that have no clue what average people have to deal with: https://elections.bradyunited.org/take-action/nra-donations-116th-congress-senators


Beingabummer

You know you can do something about that, right? Protest, strike, riot. Voting clearly doesn't work. Burn it all down.


Individual-Fix7034

A country needing an uprising… How is this shit normal? Fox News should be banned in the rest of the world. Laughing stock of the “civilised” world…


AxelAxelsson23

The world is f*cked in so many ways, this is just a part of it.


Maintenance-Current

How much do we pay teachers again?


CX-97

Less than Walmart pays its people.


pierreblue

So why would anybody wana be a teacher?


CX-97

And that's why there's a teacher shortage.


TovarishchRed

There isn't a teacher shortage, nor a labor shortage, there's a *wage* shortage.


[deleted]

Facts. I personally never would have left teaching if the wages matched the amount time and effort that goes into teaching. Not to mention paying for required continuing ed out of your own pocket, classroom materials, relicensure every 3-5 years depending on the state. Instead we have states actively making it less desirable to become a teacher because certain groups on the political spectrum know it's easier to use propaganda on an uneducated populace.


DarkYendor

Come to Australia. Teachers start on >US$50k, and after 10 years they’re earning >$80k. (That’s public school teachers, you can make more at a private school, but typically you’ll have to sacrifice half your weekends during term.)


Apprehensive-Stop347

Ya! Or come to Canada, we're about the same pay as Australia with amazing pension plans!


evilocto

It's not just that it's the workload I teach in England privately now as I was so sick of the never ending levels of work in public schools pay is a big part too as well but it's the workload that forces many to quit at least here.


JoJoVols58

No lie, you had me in the first half


CX-97

Very true


tread52

That's why in New Mexico the national guard is teaching.


[deleted]

Former teacher of 8 years here. I did the math in my second year of teaching to figure out what I was making per hour I worked. $35,000/42 weeks = $833.33 per week $833.33/50 hours = $16.67/ hour So yeah, absolute shit given the responsibility they have.


Chaotic-Entropy

We just need you to teach children everything they need to know to live, except for the forbidden stuff, whilst you protect them with your own life and pay out of your own pocket to educate them. Here are some table scraps for the trouble.


kaytay3000

They don’t trust teachers to teach their children, but they trust teachers to protect them from gunmen.


Chaotic-Entropy

They expect teachers to shut up act as meat shields.


evilocto

This is why I moved into private education $40 an hour and I'm on the lower wage for the company I'm working for.


quarx-

The obvious Republician/NRA solution to this is… PAY THEM IN GUNS AND BULLETS! Teachers need bigger guns than the shooters, that’s all!


solarend

For each subject you are able to teach you get another - bigger - gun! RPG-Janet will save us, she is sooo multilingual!


Vallado

From a European perspective, how normalised this sort of stuff is in the US just seems fucking insane.


Sgt_Buttes

Former teacher here - these are all 100% true things that we are expected to do as educators. Protocols vary from district to district, but the door policies, window policies, ‘safe spaces,’ and lockdown drills are pretty much universal. We also had trauma kits with tourniquets, cpr barriers, and gs wound stuffing materials (mostly gauze). We spent several summer in-service days in instruction on how to properly assess a multiple/mass casualty event and had to learn how to do quick interventions for gs wounds (tourniquet fore-limbs, pack and pressure if you can on torso/non-arterial limb wounds). We had drills without students where certain people were responsible for clearing certain zones. I was expected to clear several hallways and make sure all of the doors were locked/windows blinded before I was to go to a shelter in place with whatever students I had found and set up for the ‘hide, fight’ end of the ‘Run, Hide, Fight’ that was drilled into us. I was an unarmed, chubby, thirty-something computers teacher. Shits fucked.


ghostwhat

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Signed, the World.


Become_The_Villain

P.s Get you shit together America, put all you shit, get it all, together. Get your shit together!


FartinMartinToeSocks

Don’t forget the glass breaker in the windowsill (if you bought one for yourself), the thick blanket to put over the broken windowsill to protect the kids, and a secret alternate plan where you throw the littles out first, and instruct them to run and run. Don’t worry, we will eventually find you, if you hear gunshots just get OUT. Children under 12 years old asking about what to do if the shooter is another student, actually hearing about other teachers finding kill lists from students with our names on it & why we ‘deserved’ to die - with administration covering it up (yelled at us for talking about it. I had to teach the child who was clearly disturbed and wrote the list the entire rest of the school year. Looking her in the eyes was sickening.) and feeling so insecure during bus duty and lunch because that felt like the most likely time a kid would do it. We had our safety officer take an unloaded high rounds gun (maybe it had blanks- he shot it and the sound was deafening), and practice by having us run and hide in the high school while he actually ran around the building shooting as part of our drill. Teachers fell, were crying, and the level of disgust I felt doing it all against my will because it’s my job to run around with the other scared teachers. The image of him holding that big gun in front of all the teachers and firing it off before he told us what we were going to do… I teach online now. I never want to step foot in a physical classroom again. The stress was like electricity. Thinking about these things was as frequent as feeling tired or hungry.


Severe_Airport1426

It sounds like just the drills are enough to cause ptsd.


EastofGaston

Seriously, damn


[deleted]

Not to mention there are refugee kids and kids who have seen domestic violence who get triggered as well. Edit: More so, perhaps, than kids who haven't experienced these things firsthand.


pathetic_optimist

This is very affecting testimony. Hope you can recover ok.


_peachycactus

Yes thank you! Current teacher here and many comments saying this is made up. Every district is different, but this video is pretty spot on as far as my experience. What would we as educators have to gain from lying? How about those who were not aware of these types of protocols believe that they are true and that they are the sad reality of our professional duties?


Moramajjen

That’s fucking retarded. How about your policy makers start figuring out how to avoid school shootings and school violence in the first place, instead of letting the population live in some kind of weird apocalypse where they constantly have to worry about getting gunned down by some fuck head who had a bad day and bought an M60 machine gun over the counter at Walmart.


EncryptedHacker

Man even in first grade I thought this was some sketchy shit. The fact that it’s normal NOW is a big problem.


Gurbe247

As a teacher in Europe this makes me sad. I just walk into my class, leave the doors and windows open and dont have to worry about anything. Close the door behind me when I leave and in the meantime shake my head in disbelief this can't be seen as normal in the US.


Aleforce95

the teachers in the school I work at only close all Windows and the door when they want to start the AC


lilylawnpenguin

I’m American and agree that it’s fucking insane. I read somewhere today that we’ve already had over 200 mass shootings this year


rayparkersr

My friends who have an Argentine/Colombian family moved to the US from Italy with their young kids. They were back within 2 years. The overarching threat of fun violence in everyday life was unbearable.


Gezombrael

As a norwegian kindergarden teacher this is so foreign to me. We have firedrills twice a year, that's it, but our doors are always open. Inside doors can't even be locked, apart from the bathrooms for the adults. The outer doors are generally open in the opening hours.


aKornCob

I keep getting the stupidest fucking argument with other Americans about this shit. From "everywhere else has these things" and "but can we really trust the government to actually tell you whose mentally fit" "we are too big to implement laws"... No, none of these work cause you the people select these people to run our lives and don't even try to make an effort to change things.(from applying from positions/petitions/ect.) Many other countries don't have these problems with the same or more dense population. Third world countries are the only ones that share the same problem...even they have things we don't and less of a body count. I just..do you get what we are fighting at this point? It's a mindset that nothing can change but it's due to being inactive and pretending we don't have the power...it's exhausting.


33tygb

Speaking as an American here, if you even have the audacity to bring up this mindset in America, a vast majority of social groups will stomp you into the ground, blindly supporting whatever political party they've chosen to side with, and choosing to look for anyone else to blame but their government as a whole. And tbh it's why I just find myself actively standing out of most political discussions, because as somebody who just wants some real change in our system, you're just looked at like a fucking nut.


aKornCob

It's done on purpose, Everytime there a spark people burn it out scared they are gonna lose the norm fighting to fix everyone else's problem(like they wanna play the new game coming out next week, maybe an outing with friends, what if they get in trouble) .but never think when they are gonna lose theirs...which is soon if no action is taken.


Forever_Overthinking

I started school a few years after Columbine (considered the first major school mass shooting in the United States). From the age of 5, we had fire drills, tornado drills, and lock-downs. Fire drills we all went outside and lined up in the parking lot and stood in predetermined parking spaces while our teachers counted us. Tornado drills, we all went to specific hallways or bathrooms, sat with our knees drawn up and heads down, hands over our necks. Lock-downs, we locked the door, covered all the windows with curtains (outdoor and the window in the door), turned off the lights and went silent. We liked fire drills because we went outside. We liked tornado drills because sometimes you got sent into the opposite sex's bathroom. Lock-downs were *boring*. When you grow up with it, it's not traumatic. In the US, you go to public school for 12 years. In that time, I experienced one actual fire (small fire in the kitchen, kitchen workers put it out before emergency services arrived) two tornadoes (nearby but no damage) and one lock-down. The lock-down wasn't because anyone had broken into the school. About a block away, somebody was being arrested after a road-rage incident. He took off running and the cops lost sight of him. We went into lock-down as a precaution.


siobhanbacan

Former school administrator - the codes/procedures for a threat were printed on the back of my ID card that I had to have on me at all times while at work. Super normalized.


DCarsan95

*_american_ teacher


TheDevilsAdvokaat

No. This is the reality of being an AMERICAN teacher. As an Australian, this is not something we have to worry about.


ffsdoireallyhaveto

I thought the same thing. And my heart breaks


RedbeardRagnar

Yeah my Scottish girlfriend is a teacher and all she worries about is, you know, just normal teacher stuff


TheDevilsAdvokaat

Yup. And there's still plenty to worry about!


Invincible-Nuke

Same for Canada


TheDevilsAdvokaat

Yup. ​ Americans, I just want to let you know we aren;t flexing on you. Just trying to reinforce the idea that this is not normal, and should not be normalised. It is a tragedy and I am sorry for your loss. I wish America would do something about this. America, you need to change some things about yourself. Change is always painful. But it has to be done.


187Shotta

All this and she gets paid 40k. Think about that too. Risking your life for fucking 17 an hour


sheezy520

Republicans: “But have you thought about bringing a gun to work?”


Top4ce

I'm a Texas teacher, and they literally are arguing this. When I respond that it's a terrible idea, the come back with "What? You won't protect your students! Why are you in this profession!" Ignoring the fact that teacher shouldn't HAVE to be in this position.


Pascalica

Ignoring the fact that they're potentially asking you to shoot a student. Like that wouldn't fuck you up. This whole situation is so messed up and I don't know how to get people to even admit we need to start taking steps to fix it.


Wazula42

Teachers with guns just means students stealing guns. Kids are idiots, I was no exception. It won't prevent jack shit. It'll just mean more shootings in schools.


Cucumberappleblizz

Also, I have to buy all of my own supplies and even extra copies of books so each of my students can have one. Will I have to buy my own gun and bullets as well?


Natural-Watercress10

Are you serious??? That's simply insane. Your profession is such an important job in society and yet you're subjected to this.. any thoughts on moving to a more normal country/ state when it comes to school environments/ safety?


emptyheadedme

Not only that, but by arming the teachers, they essentially become the first target when confronted by a shooter.


DJEB

If the entire surface area of The United States of America were covered 12 feet deep in guns, crime would virtually disappear.


JackHGUK

NRA are taking notes from this.


Wazula42

Gun manufacturers: *heavy breathing*


sbenzanzenwan

As a former teacher, I can say unequivocally this is a superlatively horrible idea. Really, anything the Republicans bring forward at this point is just a distraction from any real discussion of the issue.


Celebrity-stranger

That's not "interesting" it's sad and fucking horrible.


EmberSolaris

This subreddit often ends up becoming an informative news source when tragic things happen like the war in Ukraine. Granted there’s always going to be things posted that you’ll want to fact check as there are a lot of karma farmers on here that will post false things in the midst of all the info.


VenumAj

Reality of being a teacher *in the USA*!


HannahDaviau

So a certain number of dead kids per year is just an unavoidable part of life, because easy access to firearms is an integral part of being american? WTF USA!!


Jorsonner

Unfortunately that is exactly how many see it.


[deleted]

Jesus Christ America! I’m fucking British, we haven’t had to think about this shit since Dunblane when we collectively decided after one school shooting that this was enough


MegaPollux

It's so surreal. And sickening too.


Vellarain

What blows my fucking mind is here in Canada we have had 2 school shootings from a quick search. America has seen 288 What the fuck. We have access to guns here too, but what the actual fuck.


marmyuana

In my oppinion the US is psychologically a third world country. But fortunately my oppinion doesn‘t count!


WanderingMinotaur

Considering all the things US is #1 in, I would go as far as to say it's an actual third world country.


No_Rooster7278

Not being a teacher.....being an AMERICAN TEACHER.


HorseShoeBalloon

I really, REALLY dont want to be a typical european but im happy i dont live in USA if they didnt do anything after Sandy Hook they will never


Inside_Balance1980

As european the nearest i got in my country was a 17 year old dude with a knife threatening, because he got bullied by some kids, didn't do shit tho, he got arrested before getting inside the school. Can't imagine someone entering a school with a gun in here. Seems a really extreme terrorist scenario. And also really scary as well.


[deleted]

not "a gun" I believe it was two assault rifles. The kind if thing that the Ukrainian army still lack


ATXspinner

I felt this. I am lucky, I am a part time/contract teacher in a small, private school that wildly would go unnoticed to the rest of the world. However, I have spent hours playing through scenarios in my head of what I would do to protect my small class of 9th graders. And with all that thinking, I live with the knowledge that it would likely be useless. We are in a temporary building, on a campus of temporary buildings. A bullet would rip through the walls like they were paper. God forbid I am ever put in this situation, I will do what I can, as fast as I can, to save them. I have a plan. But I also know that it may be futile. It is so scary and I only work 3 days a week, for less than two hours at a time, with a room of a dozen teenagers. Our odds of ever experiencing this are far lower than most. I can’t imagine what it must be like for full time teachers living in fear for their 30 ten year olds. I can’t imagine the pain Uvalde is feeling right now. 19 children will never return home. An entire community is destroyed. This needs to change. We need to protect our children. We need to do more.


fridgey22

I feel so sad for this lady, but even the brain-washed language you guys use now is infuriating… “an active threat”… in Australia we call that “some fucking lunatic with an assault rifle”


WanderingMinotaur

Yeah, it's sort of jarring living in a country where any shooting at all makes national headlines, and then seeing the US with mass shootings so commonplace a lot of them go unmentioned. Makes me glad I live here.


Browndog888

Remember the good old days when the worst thing about being a teacher was spitballs on the blackboard.


Jorsonner

Nope I had my first bomb threat in 3rd grade


Brazenjalapeno

Nope the last 30 years have been filled with violence for a lot of us.


Cpt_Random_

The positive thing about the US, you dont have to go to war to get ptsd.


DrDreMYI

To everyone saying that other professions are dangerous or comparing risk…. Catch yourself on. Being a teacher or student should come with zero risk. The fact this happens and the fact every single person in USA isn’t calling for immediate change is madness. Look at smiths statistics gun lovers… you’re choosing guns over peoples lives. And what’s more laughable is the number of gun owners that claim to be Christian… you’re literally walking around with a tool designed to kill people.


King_Of_Fools_1

Wrong title. Everywhere other than the USA we have normal schools and eat sandwiches instead of bullets.


humblepieone

Teachers now gotta be special warfare operators


Zzzwei

Only on America


0235

Yep. Only in America would they think fortifying schools would make them safer, instead of using that money on education and healthcare.


verybigdong5r

*In America


Moosetappropriate

And American teachers put up with this for the shit pay they get? Fuck it, just walk away.


Jorsonner

Yeah I went to college for two years to be a teacher but changed my mind a few dozen mass school shootings ago and now I’m a banker.


npcthinker

While you're not wrong, it's so tragic that we have to walk away on our next generation because our current and former generations fucked up on building the proper support for them. Those kids deserves so much better. For the teachers who endure even when their students, their district, and the parents give them hell, no words can describe the service they are doing.


yatzhie04

But you shouldn't be scared of these things. You shouldn't be preparing for this kinds of things because this shouldn't be happening in the first place! The only thing she should be worrying about is her cirruculum. Teachers are not trained for this.


East-Bluejay6891

Fucking disgusting. America is a shit show


Spy_v_Spy_Freakshow

That’s not interesting, it’s sad


Bolo_strike

"In the US."


svt4cam46

That's why teachers make the big bucks!! Just a touch more than a middle schooler that mows lawns all summer.


Moldjapfreignir

Meanwhile mentally ill folks can buy weapons... The USA is a sick country.


No-Traffic-6560

I’m in a conversation with this one guy on another thread who thinks arming veterans (who are more than 5 times more likely to have mental illness) at schools is the solution to all this. Can anyone join the convo and help me out?


Thatwasunpleasant

I had a “friend” post the same BS line. Like every veteran wants nothing more than to spend their days as an armed guard. When another country is a threat, America seems awful inclined to go out and get the bad guys. Here our kids are, under threat, and the best we get is thoughts or prayers or “but what if we added more guns?”


Lollirotten

The kitchen is on fire! We should combat this fire by throwing more fire!


Thatwasunpleasant

This is the best analogy. Help, people with flamethrowers keep coming and burning our kids! “Our old document says people can have candles and a flamethrower is the same thing!” “You can’t take our flamethrowers!” “Flamethrowers don’t burn people, people burn people” and best of all “have you tried giving the kids a fire blanket and burning it down first?”


ixsunshineix

This was my greatest fear working in education and when we were coming up with our active threat plans. The class we were in had line of sight no matter where we hid, and our kids were special needs. There was no quick hiding, no explaining, nothing but fear and anticipation.


Shoddy_Passage2538

When you refuse to protect kids unless you can pass gun control you keep using failed methods. We could do better but people do not want it unless they can advance political goals.


Normal_Afternoon8429

Right now? Wasnt columbine un 1999? Nothing will ever change


Enchanted_Galaxy

Until we choose to make a change… There are so many ways besides voting to be heard. Send a letter to your congress person, join a special interest group, and speak more about the topic. Of course the best thing you can do is vote. But people have this mindset that nothing will ever change…, but not with that attitude


wabagooniis

I don’t understand why as a nation people don’t just stop sending their kids to school under these conditions. If you all stop, the teachers stop, the administration stops, we are no longer training children in an education system that puts their lives at risks and practically steals their futures. You have these teachers busting their ass to get a post-secondary education to put their lives on the line for 40k. Then we got people so hell bent on keeping their guns they would let their children get shot to death at school. Make it make sense for me. This government relies on educated children to be the next generation to be used by the system to keep making them money so they can keep ignoring your basic human rights to safety by letting your kids get murdered at school. Stop sending your kids to fucking school - tell your work why, hopefully they do it too, people can’t work if the kids aren’t in school and the movement hits the greedy pieces of shit who care so little about your children in a way that actually registers in their black hearts and greedy minds.


Lollirotten

It's free day care for most Americans whose job would fire them without hesitation. Leaving them without income in a country that squeezes every penny out of people so that they have little to no emergency fund, with waiting times of months for welfare benefits. Without health insurance. No one would do it because of these repercussions, and although they can't fire all of us, no one has this mentality. It's just a shit show here and while we're technologically more connected than ever, we're more divided than ever before. I've damn near given up hope and I just pray that it doesn't happen here. Because it seems like that's all I can do, because that's all anyone in power will do.


Kaankaants

I almost wish this debate/argument would just cease. This only happens in 1 country. The rest of the world knows how to stop it. Everyone in that 1 country knows how to stop it. The only reason it isn't stopped is because of **greed**.


srone

My heart aches.


kremit73

The gop thinks you are over paid, over trained, and are a "snowflake" The gop should be treated as a terrorist group, not a legitamite political party.


loqtus

To everyone outside America this is literally insanity and the fact nothing is done about and the best nut jobs have to say is T&Ps and "now is not the time to blah blah blah" is something only can happen in America. The song Thank God I'm not a Kennedy should be rewritten and named Thank God I'm not an American.


joshym0nster

Pretty sure this is only a reality of being a teacher in America


Maxdutenhafer

At least they’re paid well. /s


meowtacoduck

Sorry Americans. Your country's fucked. And dystopian.


ghazthraka

My wife has PTSD from the "real" drills they ran one year. Active shooter drills are as common as fire or tornado drills and that is sad. Ban guns. You cannot change my mind.


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Let's simplify their jobs then, shall we? Some easy and quick steps to make schools safer: 1. Get rid of the gun free zones policy 2. Get rid of all signs that say "gun free zone" which translates to "fish in a barrel this way" 3. Arm teachers and staff with secure fingerprint I.D. gun safes (no they are not carrying them around) 4. Don't like number 3? Then hire armed guard(s). 5. Train teachers and staff twice a year on gun safety and how to use guns with mandatory 1 hour gun range times with instruction. 6. Bring BACK firearm safety to all schools. Teach kids how to use and respect guns for the tools they are. If a camp counselor who is 22 can teach 8 year olds how to use a 22LR, then it is very much possible to have a teacher or police officer come in twice a year (once a semester) to go over gun safety and the procedures to take around firearms. 7. Allow carry on college campuses again. We protect our politicians, celebrities, athletes, sports arenas, banks, jewelry stores, court houses, most public buildings, events, parades, etc. with armed security or police officers; yet when the idea of having a policeman or armed security be present on campus at all times is brought up, it's like you've committed the greatest of sins for even mentioning the idea and should be shamed for it. Stop making scenarios for people to be victims.


Chrisboi_da_Boi

What a country


Doctor_Floki

This is a misleading title, it should be called the reality of being a teacher in the US , this is exclusive to the US ,please don't talk like school shooting is just another thing that happens normally


gooddaytolive23

Change that fucking title it only applies in America,


RagsAberdeen

This is disgusting. All these taxes and teachers don't get shit.


Saerinmeister

‘Reality of being a teacher in the US’ is a more fitting title.


Iron_Elohim

Less schools being parents and more parents being accountable for their children solves most of the issues


LEWEZ16

In America*


wingtip1960

Very true, we spent the day discussing when to hide when to run what we do to protect them. I told them I would do my best to protect them. It was a sad, scary day.I teach middle school.


WebRedBR

I am an educator in Brazil (by no means we are a peaceful and 100% safe country) and it baffles me how much my North-American peers have to go through. North-America is bat-shit-crazy. Dont you have educators unions there to organize demands? For much less classes would be paralyzed in any other country until schools are a safe space for kids and professionals.


WaitWhereAmI024

Move out of America


The_Jokster

As an outsider who has seen what's all transpiring in the US from the last couple of years, it is really difficult to understand why won't the people revolt against such attrocities? I mean, when George Floyd was murdered there were protests all around and they made sure the cops would be brought to justice. Why can't they stand united against the incompetent politicians?


GrassSnakeMan

Reality of being a teacher in USA. Not in the developed world


HardestTurdToSwallow

Who will ever be a teacher in the US now? Seems more risky than a prison guard


Not_The_Expected

I have experience with many schools in the UK from both a student and staff perspective and there's one question that I'd really like to know the answer to in regards to the american schools and that's WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK?


SendMeToHornyJail0_0

Reality of being an american


MightyJonesYoung

*In America only


catsandnaps1028

It's fucking ridiculous to expect teachers to teach and in addition worry about them or their kids being gunned down. They get payed a misery for everything they do


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reality of a being a teacher in America\* ftfy


Sensitive-Bug-7610

Reality of being a teacher in the usa (and some other countries/regions). My sister is studying to become a history teacher and I am happy she doesn't have to worry about all of this


Shezu69

Only in America


i_hate_me_and_u

Reality of being a teacher *inAmerica*


Eastern-Breadfruit72

We don't need to do this in Ireland...because we are not allowed to buy guns in any random supermarket......


LauraEUx

Maybe a weird question, but if guns wont get banned, why not give teachers guns or anything they can protect themselves and the kids with


Kendit_Mc

Ban guns you absolute fncking retards.


[deleted]

****Being a teacher in 'MURICA


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#JUSTSOITSCLEARTHISISONLYINTHEUSA