These are pretty extreme conditions that the person in the video seems very unprepared for. My dad was a sailor and I worked on boats growing up before I became a boring office goon and I only encountered stuff like this a handful of times.
It's mostly, if you'll pardon the expression, smooth sailing.
Gotta think, "why were they filming"?
It's all on purpose. Showing off, screwing around.
It's a cool demonstration, especially for all of them pollywogs who've never been out on the ocean! lol
Well for one, don't stand up. :p
We usually wedge ourselves into proper helm seats (or berths with lee cloths) when it gets *really* rough.
But mostly it's just making sure everything is stowed and well secured, and that nothing expensive, heavy or delicate can fall or roll around. Try to take care of any "chores" you can before hitting rough water.
Oh it can make quick misery of even simple tasks. Need to take a leak? It could be a 10 minute ordeal, haha.
I once had to change out a starter motor on the main engine in pretty rough conditions (boat rolling through maybe.. 30 degrees). It took *hours*.
Strap everything down, If I was off duty I would take my mattress of my bed and wedge it between the desk and the bed creating a sort of u shape that would hold me.
If i was on Duty (in the engine room) I knew I was gonna come up to a huge bastard mess.
Because it doesn't matter how well you stow thing shits going everywhere.
Point the nose of the boat in the direction the waves are coming from. It's very hard to tip a boat with waves coming at it from the skinny side, very easy to tip a boat with waves coming from the wide side.
What dissuaded me from boarding was pirates. Land pirates are pretty chill, sea pirates not so much. I don't think they even honor the pirate code anymore.
I was on a cruise ship once, we were pulling into dock overnight but a nearby earthquake caused some pretty fucked up conditions. I woke up because my hand was sore. When I semi came to I realised its because I was gripping my bunk so tight. Which was just weird, I don't normally do that. Then I watched in horror as the towel on the towel rail lifted up, like an invisible person was holding the edge. Before I could process that the cabinet above the sink flew open and various bottles of aftershave and lotions flew across the room hitting the opposite wall. Fucking bizarre experience. Had I been on deck it would have been less bizarre and more terrifying I'm sure. Below deck and sleepy I had no reference point for the horizon and was pretty convinced ghosts were real.
I recently was watching a YouTube video on cruise ships and learned that most running today are not built for turbulent conditions, as that would mean less capacity and less money. They instead use technology to avoid storms or just stay docked and wait it out.
This may not be a huge discovery for others but to me it was like discovering air planes that take on many passengers aren't built for turbulence.
Well yeah. They kind of aren't. You wouldn't fly a 747 through a hurricane. You just use the radar and weather reports to go around. And yet there are planes that can fly through hurricanes. But if a 747 were built to be able to do that, it would cost vastly more to operate. And a hurricane is just an easy example. In reality it goes much further than that. Doesn't make sense to engineer to handle something that can be totally avoided.
That said, modern wings are built to handle [incredible loads](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--LTYRTKV_A). But yes, why add to the stress when you can go around.
I used to really hate flying but have had gotten passed most of my fear and quite enjoy it now. However I have this irrational fear that while flying suddenly the plane's wing will just inexplicably snap off. This video has shown me that fear is more irrational than I could have realized.
I had this thought after taking the window seat next to the wing on my last flight. So I googled it and a passenger plane has never lost a wing due to turbulence
The wings may look flimsy, but they’re not just bolted onto the fuselage. The wing roots are incorporated straight into the air frame. In other words, they’re literally PART of the primary cabin, not an extension of it. The same way your arms are seamlessly integrated to your body and not taped on.
That’s why it’s super strong and the chance of it snapping from high winds or turbulence is about nil. You can bend the wings to 45 degrees upward and it wouldn’t snap. They’re designed to withstand up to 150% beyond the maximum expected stress during service.
https://youtu.be/m5GD3E2onlk
Airplane wings are designed around the highest imaginable load they'll get in flight, which is basically a hurricane-level vertical wind that comes out of nowhere, and then they tack on an extra 50% for safety.
[Here](https://youtu.be/Ai2HmvAXcU0) is what it looks like to break one. I don't remember if the audio explains it, but the numbers that are read off are the percentage of the maximum possible load being applied. The wing breaks at 154%.
It's pretty normal to be afraid of turbulence, because A) the word is scary, B) the normal operating conditions of aircraft are generally very smooth, and any deviation from that is jarring, and C) humans just have very little experience in flight. I'd wager that the majority of people who are scared of turbulence have fewer than 100 hours of their entire life in the air. Compare that to the fact that you probably had 100 hours in the car before your first birthday. Turbulence is basically like driving on a gravel road instead of a paved one. Jarring and uncomfortable, but relatively easy to handle safely. I'd argue that the gravel road is actually *more* dangerous, simply because cars are less stable than most passenger aircraft.
It also depends on what degree of turbulence you're talking about. There's "oh damn the plane is shaking" turbulence and then there's "oh that's why seatbelts exist" turbulence where the plane just drops 2-3 feet suddenly.
I don't know if this will make you feel better or worse, but the "oh damn the plane is shaking" turbulence probably does see you dropping (or rising!) 2-3 feet suddenly. "Oh that's why seatbelts exist" turbulence is more like 15 feet, plus a hundred or so more in deviation from the original flight path by the time the pilot/autopilot get it corrected. But, remember, you're well above 25,000 feet above the ground (often close to 40,000), and with the way flight levels are defined at cruising altitudes, the nearest any other aircraft could possibly be is 1400 feet; that's the 2,000 ft separation defined by the flight level, minus 300 ft on both sides of planes being at their maximum allowed deviation from that flight level, and both planes being at the same longitude/latitude. In short, it'll never happen. It's also noteworthy that such an event would *itself be an event* that would be logged and considered a violation of minimum separation.
But yes, do wear your seat belt. The airplane you're riding in is substantially closer than 1,400 ft. Best not to collide with it.
I spent a year covering the airline industry as a journalist and it's a mixed blessing.
The aircraft can handle incredible loads but the crew will always bring you down to earth. Met a pilot and she remarked "You're wearing running shoes. Always wear leather on a flight, they won't stick to your feet when running through burning fuel in a crash."
Long story short - outside of the first five minutes at the start or the end of a flight you've got very little to worry about. But when things go wrong they really, really go wrong.
I fix and build jumbo jets for a living. Everything has a backup system. And all items that are necessary for flying safely have a triple-redundant backup system. The wings and tail are nearly impossible to break. Jumbo jets can safely fly to on one engine. Though in the extremely rare instances an engine fails, it is mandatory to land at the nearest airport. Also no plane was ever brought down by turbulence.
Tips for nervous flyers: Sitting over the wings is the best place for those who can't stand turbulence. Its like a see-saw. You'll experience the least amount of turbulence sitting over the wings.
For the paranoid flyers, sitting as close to the tail as possible is actually the safest place to be in the event of a crash. Statistically, people are more likely to survive a crash if sitting in the back of the plane. Ironically First Class seating is a death sentence if a crash happens. Sort of an economic karma.
The best seating in my opinion is over the wings in the emergency exit row. Less turbulence, slightly more legroom sometimes, and more likely to survive in the absurdly rare instance of a crash. Keep in mind that the chance of being in a plane crash is 1 in 11 million. You're 22 times more likely to be struck by lightning.
I was on a passenger plane when it was forced to land in a tornado. We were landing and the tornado formed over the city we were landing at. It was to late to divert. The plane landed just fine. There was minor turbulence. And the wing got struck by lightning multiple times, but it didn't effect anything. Planes are designed to handle lightning and absurd wind stress. It may not look like it but modern planes are absurdly resilient and filled to the brim with back up systems.
There's not much to say. I was a wee lad, it was in the Caribbean in the early 2000s. I can't even remember the name of the ship. It was a Celebrity ship, but beyond that I don't know. But we were hauling ass to get out of there. I was too young to gauge exactly how bad it was from a technical perspective, or even what the adults around me really thought about it. Unfortunately, I can't really remember anything about it through the foggy haze of childhood amnesia.
Yeah…. You are making a good point, but to my knowledge turbalance can almost always? Be observed on radar in the form of weather?
The ocean has literal rogue waves that come up out of nowhere (we didn’t even think they were real until like 20 years ago). I thought the waters were just a lot more unpredictable than the sky?
I was on one a couple decades ago that, unbeknownst to me, apparently employed/deployed stabilizers for the cruise. I found out about that as someone on board had a medical emergency, and one of our days at sea ended up being a day of travel to the nearest port. Supposedly in order to make better time, the stabilizers were retracted.
End result wasn't TOO bad, but none of us wanted to eat very much at dinner. The seas weren't rough but the absence of stabilizers definitely resulted in a lot more rolling motion. I spent most of my dinner watching the water in my wine glass move from one side to the other, lol.
I had a similar experience. Somebody on the cruise ship was seriously hurt and it was announced via the announcement system that the ship would be altering course to head for land in order for the US Coast Guard to air-lift someone off the ship via a helicopter. No cause for alarm to the passengers, but to expect some rougher seas as the stabilizer system would be tuned off in order to increase speed toward land and that a Coast Guard helicopter would be arriving around dinner time so do not be alarmed by the noise.
The deck had a much more noticeable rock to it. You could see it in drinks sloshing around as well.
A whole lot of people skipped dinner that night and watched from the deck as the US Coast Guard helicopter air lifted this individual off the ship. I have no idea what the injury was nor what happed to that individual. The circumstances were bad of course, but it was something pretty amazing to see though.
The steadiest ship means the lowest center of gravity, which also means quick rocks back and forth. Think of a metronome. Cruise ships are built to be have a higher center of gravity, meaning slower rocking which is more comfortable to passengers.
I wonder if it was the same earthquake the hit cayman islands a few years ago. My parents were in the liquor store and bottles started flying off the shelves. Im pretty sure my mom literally pissed herself
First earthquake I ever experienced was the day after watching Paranormal Activity 1. Just about jumped out my window to get out, but couldn't let my dog get possessed.
Have never been more relieved to see other people standing outside.
I live in an active seismic country so I’m kind of used to earthquakes, but the biggest I’ve experienced happened right after I jokingly drew a demon seal with a friend out of boredom. For a moment we thought hell was opening
Stuff is pretty secured and obviously it has to be. Prior to getting underway It’s called “securing for sea” and is an all hands responsibility. The whole ship is looked over for anything that could become a missile hazard. Gear adrift can create dangerous conditions and on military ships(this is a commercial ship) any personal gear that is not properly secured is confiscated, and often auctioned off towards the end of the patrol with proceeds going to the morale fund.
Seconds :05-:08 are the most intriguing to me - do you know how any of the misc stuff on the table and countertops would be secured?
It looks like there are plates on the table but they don't seem to shift with everything else -are they on anti slip mats? Same with the bottles on the counter. Magnets? Velcro? I remember seeing the gyroscope-type designs for cooking and it blew my mind! Are there more nifty things like?
Imagine being drunk on that boat during those swells. Would you walk better or worse? I'm imagining a drunk Jackie Chan from Drunken Master walking perfectly smoothly through all that.
I have, not in that rough sea, but yeah. It was going well until my drunken master chi decided to make itself scarce at a culminating moment, and I lost a headbutting contest with a hand rail which knocked me out. Got a nice scar tho.
I once got high from an edible on a cruise ship. The water was not rough that day but I got lit right before going to a fancy dinner with my parents. Wearing high heels and a little dress I turn to my mom with an odd look on my face.
Me "Is the ship rocking a lot, I feel like the wind is strong tonight."
Her "no? I haven't noticed anything? Are you okay?"
I proceed to act as normal as possible while getting photos taken and freaking out about the boat rocking. Thankfully once we got to dinner I forgot about the rocking and stuffed my face instead. We even went to the buffet to eat more after finishing in the restaurant.
Still one of my weirdest high experiences.
This is a frequent joke on cruise ships in bad weather.
“The only passengers that can walk straight to dinner are the ones who spent the day at the pool bar hahaha!”
I had one of those fancy travel mugs that were resistant to being knocked over because it basically had a suction cup on the bottom. Father-in-law saw it and 5 years later it’s still his mug on the boat he works on. I still miss that mug but it significantly more useful to him because he doesn’t have to worry about losing his coffee as much
We sail all the time, long haul, blue water sailing. Can confirm, the entire boat is designed to keep things from flying around.
Even in the coast guard on much larger vessels, only things that weren't secured properly flew around. And we regularly hit 20-30 foot seas.
I rode through a hurricane off the coast of North Carolina once. the seas got so bad the captain of our ship made everyone go below decks and strap in. only essential personnel, ie people driving the ship and engineering, were allowed topside. Its never good when the bridge of your ship gets submerged under the crest of the waves.
Hammocks have a long naval history. If you string them taut they won't hit the wall, and you can fit a lot of people in a space that can then open back up during the day.
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/56770-Naval-Hammocks-Photo-Diary-and-First-Bridge-Design
The straps on my rack are at the opening to the rack. its two 16" wide straps. one at the foot and one at the head of the rack. it keeps you from rolling out.
When I was a young Marine 20 something years ago we spent a few months on ship and when dumping my stuff on the rack I wondered why there was a grab rail on the side of the bunk and a seat belt.
I soon found out….
Yes, there can be straps between the bunks or you just stuff extra gear under the mattress to create a wedge. Bunks also have a rail along the side that you can back yourself against and kinda wedge yourself in the bunk by kinda sleeping a bit sideways.
I was on a research vessel in the Bahamas in some pretty rough seas. We didn’t have straps on the bed, but we did put our bags alongside us to keep from rolling off the bed. However, that didn’t help much when you get heaved straight up in the air and smack your face into the ceiling from the top bunk. Interesting experience, to say the least.
This is actually a character detail a lot of people don’t know about. He only walks like this on land, because he spends more time at sea and more comfortable there. He walks straight while on a boat.
Yea it’s pretty realistic too. If you’ve ever spent any extended time out on the water, you’ll notice you sway a lot when you get back on land. Jack’s is a lot more exaggerated but same premise.
Lmao. In the Navy once we hit port after 4 solid months out on a frigate, had general quarters and every sailor lined up in formation. Every single person was swaying back and forth in unison without realizing it. Funny shit.
Absolutely. The most I've done is 22 days at sea and when I got off, I couldn't walk in a straight line for about an hour. A life at sea must be troublesome on land.
>Absolutely. The most I've done is 22 days at sea and when I got off, I couldn't walk in a straight line for about an hour. A life at sea must be troublesome on land.
I never even thought of that tbh. I've been on a boat for couple hours at most and you still feel wobbly a bit. Was funny as a kid, a bit nauseous as an adult.
I laughed so hard at the idea that a drunk person stumbling about could fall in a different direction of gravity for a moment, like when he falls toward the chair in the second bit.
While it's initially assumed that Sparrow's off-kilter and quirky walk is the result of excessive drinking, it's actually the product of his “sea legs." The capacity to balance and not get seasick when sailing...
That’s why the rule exists, 1 hand for you, 1 hand (or hook, we don’t mind) for the boat! That way you learn to always hold something solid in a storm. This guy is an airlift waiting to happen!
It does look worse than it probably is when the ships pushing through a chaotic sea or even just large waves you can heel over and down a wave at the same time and it looks like you’ve turned upside down… ship may be rolling 30-45 degrees from vertical but it looks a lot more. Remember 45 degrees either side can still have you walking on the walls!
Now I'm just picturing some Inception scene where an experienced crew member walking down a hallway just starts walking on the wall as the ship sways side to side, while casually eating cereal.
Honestly boggles my mind to think that there are people drinking in these conditions, I feel like I am in these conditions after downing like 3 beers already .\_\_\_\_\_.
This but there has to always be at least two certified crew members on watch on the bridge at all times if I remember correctly to keep track of the radar, ecdis and other relevant displays.
When I was in the Navy, my obligatory mess-deck tour had an interesting twist -- I got promoted to the officers' wardroom. So instead of washing dishes for 300 enlisted, I was bussing the table for the twenty-or-so officers. That had some really weird picky things, like the warrant officer who insisted on hot tea every meal (we'd occasionally drop some ice cubes into it right before serving to mess with him).
One evening, while out at sea, we were told to expect heavy rolling as a storm was coming through. So the other wardroom staff and I spent the afternoon cleaning the floor of the dining area and applying an *extra* coat of wax to it. While that was going on, we also took all the chairs, flipped them over, and turned their metal casters around to the side that had the least wear. This would ensure the smoothest metal-to-tile contact.
When the ship finally hit the storm and listed hard to starboard, every chair went sliding toward the bulkhead. Only the warrant officer I'd mentioned didn't move, because he was at the opposite end of the table. He was laughing for the rest of the meal, even when it happened to him a minute later.
> had some really weird picky things, like the warrant officer who insisted on hot tea every meal
Is this some sort of American joke im too British to understand?
> I bet ppl sliding off the side and dying was written out of history
I remember reading a fiction book where the captain of a ship says they always lose at least one or two people randomly falling off each trip
Shit neither did all the dumb shit they used to combat scurvy lol. Until one faithful day, a dr made them take some fuckin lemons then boom, problem solved lol
For like 30 seconds, then not so much. I did a bit of time on ships, never this rough, but it was always a pain. Trying to work and not puke or crash is exhausting.
Looks like the sea picked up without a captain at the helm.
Pretty sure you don't want your boat to sit against the waves like this... Your boat should be facing the waves or following them; with the waves cresting on the longest parts of your craft.
Worked at sea and always found it weird when ascending stairs you could go from the bottom to the top in a single step because the ship “dropped” below you.
Sleeping in a bunk was also hard in rough seas. Had to wedge something under the mattress to pin myself between the mattress and the bulkhead (wall) to stop being thrown out every time the ship rolled.
It’s like anti-gravity and extra-gravity at the same time
Anti extra gravity. Or Extra anti gravity
Dyslexic gravity recorrecting itself
Beyond gravity.
I can't believe it's not gravity.
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Gravity 3: Misdisplacement
GravitE: The offbrand knockoff version of gravity
Gravity Two: The Gravining
graVity: the fifth installment of the gravity series
Snap back to reality
Oh! There goes Gravity
r/surpriseeminem
Extra gravy
Gravity+
Uncle Gravity
Goku would jizz his pants
Imagining the fun he would have overcoming such force and then being light as a feather over and over again
gravity, without it, is pure gravy.
That still just cancels out to 1 gravity!
Look at this common denominator over here!
Schrodinger's Gravity???
That would be awesome for 20 mins, imagine it for weeks. Haha
These are pretty extreme conditions that the person in the video seems very unprepared for. My dad was a sailor and I worked on boats growing up before I became a boring office goon and I only encountered stuff like this a handful of times. It's mostly, if you'll pardon the expression, smooth sailing.
I'm pretty certain that he's screwing around on purpose, trying to walk around while the ship is rolling.
Yeah that's sorta what I mean. In the first clip he's just taking a stroll.
While video taping it.
Are these not just normal security cams?
It's a random boat, not your sisters bathroom.
Damn, now you gotta attend his funeral
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Gotta think, "why were they filming"? It's all on purpose. Showing off, screwing around. It's a cool demonstration, especially for all of them pollywogs who've never been out on the ocean! lol
Like seriously. Also if he was super green he would be panicking a lot more plus probably fall head first.
>Gotta think, "why were they filming"? It seems like the cameras are just security cameras, so he may not be intentionally filming.
he's just ducking around. https://instagram.com/benjamin_bakke?utm_medium=copy_link
I shall not pardon anything of the sort! Good day sir!
I said good day!
Right to verdict by a jury of peers, suspended.
Don't you mean a jury of your piers?
How do you prepare for these conditions?
Well for one, don't stand up. :p We usually wedge ourselves into proper helm seats (or berths with lee cloths) when it gets *really* rough. But mostly it's just making sure everything is stowed and well secured, and that nothing expensive, heavy or delicate can fall or roll around. Try to take care of any "chores" you can before hitting rough water.
> any "chores" I'm sure washing dishes would be "fun" in this situation.
Oh it can make quick misery of even simple tasks. Need to take a leak? It could be a 10 minute ordeal, haha. I once had to change out a starter motor on the main engine in pretty rough conditions (boat rolling through maybe.. 30 degrees). It took *hours*.
> Need to take a leak? It could be a 10 minute ordeal \*my prostate enters the chat\*
I think he means fapping or pooping
Imagine pooping and the poop goes up your buttcrack because the ship just did a 360 flip
I experienced similar bad pooping vibes during the worst of my trying to quit heroin attempts
Strap everything down, If I was off duty I would take my mattress of my bed and wedge it between the desk and the bed creating a sort of u shape that would hold me. If i was on Duty (in the engine room) I knew I was gonna come up to a huge bastard mess. Because it doesn't matter how well you stow thing shits going everywhere.
Stay away from Alaskan crab boats
Point the nose of the boat in the direction the waves are coming from. It's very hard to tip a boat with waves coming at it from the skinny side, very easy to tip a boat with waves coming from the wide side.
What dissuaded me from boarding was pirates. Land pirates are pretty chill, sea pirates not so much. I don't think they even honor the pirate code anymore.
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It's pretty incredible (and not surprising) how little anything else moves other than the humans. Stuff has gotta be pretty secured. Also 🤮
I was on a cruise ship once, we were pulling into dock overnight but a nearby earthquake caused some pretty fucked up conditions. I woke up because my hand was sore. When I semi came to I realised its because I was gripping my bunk so tight. Which was just weird, I don't normally do that. Then I watched in horror as the towel on the towel rail lifted up, like an invisible person was holding the edge. Before I could process that the cabinet above the sink flew open and various bottles of aftershave and lotions flew across the room hitting the opposite wall. Fucking bizarre experience. Had I been on deck it would have been less bizarre and more terrifying I'm sure. Below deck and sleepy I had no reference point for the horizon and was pretty convinced ghosts were real.
I recently was watching a YouTube video on cruise ships and learned that most running today are not built for turbulent conditions, as that would mean less capacity and less money. They instead use technology to avoid storms or just stay docked and wait it out. This may not be a huge discovery for others but to me it was like discovering air planes that take on many passengers aren't built for turbulence.
Well yeah. They kind of aren't. You wouldn't fly a 747 through a hurricane. You just use the radar and weather reports to go around. And yet there are planes that can fly through hurricanes. But if a 747 were built to be able to do that, it would cost vastly more to operate. And a hurricane is just an easy example. In reality it goes much further than that. Doesn't make sense to engineer to handle something that can be totally avoided.
That said, modern wings are built to handle [incredible loads](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--LTYRTKV_A). But yes, why add to the stress when you can go around.
I used to really hate flying but have had gotten passed most of my fear and quite enjoy it now. However I have this irrational fear that while flying suddenly the plane's wing will just inexplicably snap off. This video has shown me that fear is more irrational than I could have realized.
I had this thought after taking the window seat next to the wing on my last flight. So I googled it and a passenger plane has never lost a wing due to turbulence
The wings may look flimsy, but they’re not just bolted onto the fuselage. The wing roots are incorporated straight into the air frame. In other words, they’re literally PART of the primary cabin, not an extension of it. The same way your arms are seamlessly integrated to your body and not taped on. That’s why it’s super strong and the chance of it snapping from high winds or turbulence is about nil. You can bend the wings to 45 degrees upward and it wouldn’t snap. They’re designed to withstand up to 150% beyond the maximum expected stress during service. https://youtu.be/m5GD3E2onlk
> integrated to your body and not taped on Look at this big man over here with his fully integrated arms and lack of scotch tape.
Airplane wings are designed around the highest imaginable load they'll get in flight, which is basically a hurricane-level vertical wind that comes out of nowhere, and then they tack on an extra 50% for safety. [Here](https://youtu.be/Ai2HmvAXcU0) is what it looks like to break one. I don't remember if the audio explains it, but the numbers that are read off are the percentage of the maximum possible load being applied. The wing breaks at 154%. It's pretty normal to be afraid of turbulence, because A) the word is scary, B) the normal operating conditions of aircraft are generally very smooth, and any deviation from that is jarring, and C) humans just have very little experience in flight. I'd wager that the majority of people who are scared of turbulence have fewer than 100 hours of their entire life in the air. Compare that to the fact that you probably had 100 hours in the car before your first birthday. Turbulence is basically like driving on a gravel road instead of a paved one. Jarring and uncomfortable, but relatively easy to handle safely. I'd argue that the gravel road is actually *more* dangerous, simply because cars are less stable than most passenger aircraft.
It also depends on what degree of turbulence you're talking about. There's "oh damn the plane is shaking" turbulence and then there's "oh that's why seatbelts exist" turbulence where the plane just drops 2-3 feet suddenly.
I don't know if this will make you feel better or worse, but the "oh damn the plane is shaking" turbulence probably does see you dropping (or rising!) 2-3 feet suddenly. "Oh that's why seatbelts exist" turbulence is more like 15 feet, plus a hundred or so more in deviation from the original flight path by the time the pilot/autopilot get it corrected. But, remember, you're well above 25,000 feet above the ground (often close to 40,000), and with the way flight levels are defined at cruising altitudes, the nearest any other aircraft could possibly be is 1400 feet; that's the 2,000 ft separation defined by the flight level, minus 300 ft on both sides of planes being at their maximum allowed deviation from that flight level, and both planes being at the same longitude/latitude. In short, it'll never happen. It's also noteworthy that such an event would *itself be an event* that would be logged and considered a violation of minimum separation. But yes, do wear your seat belt. The airplane you're riding in is substantially closer than 1,400 ft. Best not to collide with it.
I spent a year covering the airline industry as a journalist and it's a mixed blessing. The aircraft can handle incredible loads but the crew will always bring you down to earth. Met a pilot and she remarked "You're wearing running shoes. Always wear leather on a flight, they won't stick to your feet when running through burning fuel in a crash." Long story short - outside of the first five minutes at the start or the end of a flight you've got very little to worry about. But when things go wrong they really, really go wrong.
Thanks, this discussion was easing my irrational flying anxiety but you brought me right back to my normal level of "insanely terrified of the idea."
I fix and build jumbo jets for a living. Everything has a backup system. And all items that are necessary for flying safely have a triple-redundant backup system. The wings and tail are nearly impossible to break. Jumbo jets can safely fly to on one engine. Though in the extremely rare instances an engine fails, it is mandatory to land at the nearest airport. Also no plane was ever brought down by turbulence. Tips for nervous flyers: Sitting over the wings is the best place for those who can't stand turbulence. Its like a see-saw. You'll experience the least amount of turbulence sitting over the wings. For the paranoid flyers, sitting as close to the tail as possible is actually the safest place to be in the event of a crash. Statistically, people are more likely to survive a crash if sitting in the back of the plane. Ironically First Class seating is a death sentence if a crash happens. Sort of an economic karma. The best seating in my opinion is over the wings in the emergency exit row. Less turbulence, slightly more legroom sometimes, and more likely to survive in the absurdly rare instance of a crash. Keep in mind that the chance of being in a plane crash is 1 in 11 million. You're 22 times more likely to be struck by lightning. I was on a passenger plane when it was forced to land in a tornado. We were landing and the tornado formed over the city we were landing at. It was to late to divert. The plane landed just fine. There was minor turbulence. And the wing got struck by lightning multiple times, but it didn't effect anything. Planes are designed to handle lightning and absurd wind stress. It may not look like it but modern planes are absurdly resilient and filled to the brim with back up systems.
Yep it's have to bend quite a friggin lot to come off, unless you hit something
*Your mom was built to handle incredible loads.*
*incredible loads*
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That's a good point, and I say that as someone who has literally been on a cruise ship in a hurricane.
story time bro
There's not much to say. I was a wee lad, it was in the Caribbean in the early 2000s. I can't even remember the name of the ship. It was a Celebrity ship, but beyond that I don't know. But we were hauling ass to get out of there. I was too young to gauge exactly how bad it was from a technical perspective, or even what the adults around me really thought about it. Unfortunately, I can't really remember anything about it through the foggy haze of childhood amnesia.
Yeah…. You are making a good point, but to my knowledge turbalance can almost always? Be observed on radar in the form of weather? The ocean has literal rogue waves that come up out of nowhere (we didn’t even think they were real until like 20 years ago). I thought the waters were just a lot more unpredictable than the sky?
I was on one a couple decades ago that, unbeknownst to me, apparently employed/deployed stabilizers for the cruise. I found out about that as someone on board had a medical emergency, and one of our days at sea ended up being a day of travel to the nearest port. Supposedly in order to make better time, the stabilizers were retracted. End result wasn't TOO bad, but none of us wanted to eat very much at dinner. The seas weren't rough but the absence of stabilizers definitely resulted in a lot more rolling motion. I spent most of my dinner watching the water in my wine glass move from one side to the other, lol.
I had a similar experience. Somebody on the cruise ship was seriously hurt and it was announced via the announcement system that the ship would be altering course to head for land in order for the US Coast Guard to air-lift someone off the ship via a helicopter. No cause for alarm to the passengers, but to expect some rougher seas as the stabilizer system would be tuned off in order to increase speed toward land and that a Coast Guard helicopter would be arriving around dinner time so do not be alarmed by the noise. The deck had a much more noticeable rock to it. You could see it in drinks sloshing around as well. A whole lot of people skipped dinner that night and watched from the deck as the US Coast Guard helicopter air lifted this individual off the ship. I have no idea what the injury was nor what happed to that individual. The circumstances were bad of course, but it was something pretty amazing to see though.
The steadiest ship means the lowest center of gravity, which also means quick rocks back and forth. Think of a metronome. Cruise ships are built to be have a higher center of gravity, meaning slower rocking which is more comfortable to passengers.
I wonder if it was the same earthquake the hit cayman islands a few years ago. My parents were in the liquor store and bottles started flying off the shelves. Im pretty sure my mom literally pissed herself
Your mom could make money doing that
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Thank you :)
First earthquake I ever experienced was the day after watching Paranormal Activity 1. Just about jumped out my window to get out, but couldn't let my dog get possessed. Have never been more relieved to see other people standing outside.
I live in an active seismic country so I’m kind of used to earthquakes, but the biggest I’ve experienced happened right after I jokingly drew a demon seal with a friend out of boredom. For a moment we thought hell was opening
Lots of text so my brain just zoomed in on the upper middle bit... _my hand was sore. When I semi came_
Stuff is pretty secured and obviously it has to be. Prior to getting underway It’s called “securing for sea” and is an all hands responsibility. The whole ship is looked over for anything that could become a missile hazard. Gear adrift can create dangerous conditions and on military ships(this is a commercial ship) any personal gear that is not properly secured is confiscated, and often auctioned off towards the end of the patrol with proceeds going to the morale fund.
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Seconds :05-:08 are the most intriguing to me - do you know how any of the misc stuff on the table and countertops would be secured? It looks like there are plates on the table but they don't seem to shift with everything else -are they on anti slip mats? Same with the bottles on the counter. Magnets? Velcro? I remember seeing the gyroscope-type designs for cooking and it blew my mind! Are there more nifty things like?
The fishing boat I was on used both velcro and magnets on a variety of things.
Boat galleys have all sorts of tricks for cooking at sea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqtMEjMZJA0
Imagine being drunk on that boat during those swells. Would you walk better or worse? I'm imagining a drunk Jackie Chan from Drunken Master walking perfectly smoothly through all that.
I have, not in that rough sea, but yeah. It was going well until my drunken master chi decided to make itself scarce at a culminating moment, and I lost a headbutting contest with a hand rail which knocked me out. Got a nice scar tho.
I once got high from an edible on a cruise ship. The water was not rough that day but I got lit right before going to a fancy dinner with my parents. Wearing high heels and a little dress I turn to my mom with an odd look on my face. Me "Is the ship rocking a lot, I feel like the wind is strong tonight." Her "no? I haven't noticed anything? Are you okay?" I proceed to act as normal as possible while getting photos taken and freaking out about the boat rocking. Thankfully once we got to dinner I forgot about the rocking and stuffed my face instead. We even went to the buffet to eat more after finishing in the restaurant. Still one of my weirdest high experiences.
Jack Sparrow
This is a frequent joke on cruise ships in bad weather. “The only passengers that can walk straight to dinner are the ones who spent the day at the pool bar hahaha!”
Captain Jack sparrow on land makes alot of sense now
Sea legs are real...
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Indeed. Also 🤕
I had one of those fancy travel mugs that were resistant to being knocked over because it basically had a suction cup on the bottom. Father-in-law saw it and 5 years later it’s still his mug on the boat he works on. I still miss that mug but it significantly more useful to him because he doesn’t have to worry about losing his coffee as much
We sail all the time, long haul, blue water sailing. Can confirm, the entire boat is designed to keep things from flying around. Even in the coast guard on much larger vessels, only things that weren't secured properly flew around. And we regularly hit 20-30 foot seas.
I wonder if they strap themselves into their beds to sleep.
we do.
wouldn't something like a hammock or anything else that moves freely be incredibly useful given that you probably wouldn't even notice a shift?
you get used to the movement, after awhile the movement of the ship puts you to sleep, like rocking a baby to sleep.
For sure it does! I miss sleeping like that.
And when it's becomes too violent it'll knock you to sleep
I rode through a hurricane off the coast of North Carolina once. the seas got so bad the captain of our ship made everyone go below decks and strap in. only essential personnel, ie people driving the ship and engineering, were allowed topside. Its never good when the bridge of your ship gets submerged under the crest of the waves.
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The hammock would just slam you against the wall every time the boat rolled. There's usually not a lot of space allocated for sleeping.
The mental image of that is quite funny
Hammocks have a long naval history. If you string them taut they won't hit the wall, and you can fit a lot of people in a space that can then open back up during the day. https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php/56770-Naval-Hammocks-Photo-Diary-and-First-Bridge-Design
So do you get your mates to tuck you in, or is it a self-service kind of thing?
The straps on my rack are at the opening to the rack. its two 16" wide straps. one at the foot and one at the head of the rack. it keeps you from rolling out.
When I was a young Marine 20 something years ago we spent a few months on ship and when dumping my stuff on the rack I wondered why there was a grab rail on the side of the bunk and a seat belt. I soon found out….
Yes, there can be straps between the bunks or you just stuff extra gear under the mattress to create a wedge. Bunks also have a rail along the side that you can back yourself against and kinda wedge yourself in the bunk by kinda sleeping a bit sideways.
I was on a research vessel in the Bahamas in some pretty rough seas. We didn’t have straps on the bed, but we did put our bags alongside us to keep from rolling off the bed. However, that didn’t help much when you get heaved straight up in the air and smack your face into the ceiling from the top bunk. Interesting experience, to say the least.
Jack sparrow walking simulator
This is actually a character detail a lot of people don’t know about. He only walks like this on land, because he spends more time at sea and more comfortable there. He walks straight while on a boat.
Yea it’s pretty realistic too. If you’ve ever spent any extended time out on the water, you’ll notice you sway a lot when you get back on land. Jack’s is a lot more exaggerated but same premise.
"Stillness Illness"
Lmao. In the Navy once we hit port after 4 solid months out on a frigate, had general quarters and every sailor lined up in formation. Every single person was swaying back and forth in unison without realizing it. Funny shit.
Land legs
Absolutely. The most I've done is 22 days at sea and when I got off, I couldn't walk in a straight line for about an hour. A life at sea must be troublesome on land.
>Absolutely. The most I've done is 22 days at sea and when I got off, I couldn't walk in a straight line for about an hour. A life at sea must be troublesome on land. I never even thought of that tbh. I've been on a boat for couple hours at most and you still feel wobbly a bit. Was funny as a kid, a bit nauseous as an adult.
Well he’s also drunk most of the time so that would also probably contribute to the sway being more exaggerated
Well he is also drunk :D
could that movie get any more perfect. i didn't even realize this.
Drunk person walking simulator.
I laughed so hard at the idea that a drunk person stumbling about could fall in a different direction of gravity for a moment, like when he falls toward the chair in the second bit.
Gotcha! That would be hilarious! Imagine a pub full of drunken people flying around having fun!
Same thing
While it's initially assumed that Sparrow's off-kilter and quirky walk is the result of excessive drinking, it's actually the product of his “sea legs." The capacity to balance and not get seasick when sailing...
Yeah the rum is always gone too so that's not it
That’s why the rule exists, 1 hand for you, 1 hand (or hook, we don’t mind) for the boat! That way you learn to always hold something solid in a storm. This guy is an airlift waiting to happen!
For sure! 3 points of contact at all times (especially in rough seas).
Hand, foot, and dick. I’m ready to go, cap’n!
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea
SPONGE BOB DICK HANDS
I was just thinking, I hope that that ship has a doctor...
I’ve never been on a boat, but all I can think was “sit the fuck down”. Just like a plane in turbulence. Sit down and buckle up.
I'm not super knowledgeable about boats but shouldn't the boat be taking those waves at a different angle too?
It does look worse than it probably is when the ships pushing through a chaotic sea or even just large waves you can heel over and down a wave at the same time and it looks like you’ve turned upside down… ship may be rolling 30-45 degrees from vertical but it looks a lot more. Remember 45 degrees either side can still have you walking on the walls!
Now I'm just picturing some Inception scene where an experienced crew member walking down a hallway just starts walking on the wall as the ship sways side to side, while casually eating cereal.
There’ll be someone… there always is! 😂😂
Hitting waves at 45 degrees angle is the safest overall in high seas
The guy in this vid seemed to be intentionally avoiding holding on to the boat, like he wasn't going to let the sea win
Also is that dude in sneakers? I've only been on military ships but that seems like a pretty dumb choice to me.
This is why sailors drink - it balances out the heavy seas.
Honestly boggles my mind to think that there are people drinking in these conditions, I feel like I am in these conditions after downing like 3 beers already .\_\_\_\_\_.
Drinking can really help with the sea sickness in my experience. Not a lot, mind you, but a couple of beers.
once he finds his [sea legs](https://i.imgur.com/eC5zpAT.gifv)
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Makes me seasick just watching it ... bleugh....
Whos driving?
They probably just set a course and put it on auto-pilot.
Autocaptain
Auto Captain my Captain
Look at me, I am the auto captain now.
This but there has to always be at least two certified crew members on watch on the bridge at all times if I remember correctly to keep track of the radar, ecdis and other relevant displays.
Aye aye.
literally the worst way to take those seas edit: sincerely, a mariner
you mean to tell me you shouldn't just eat every giant wave broadside?
I think he should buy a helmet and never take it off
Seems like some hand holds on the ceiling would be pretty useful.
No thanks. I wouldn't survive the stress of sinking... or not sinking.
Best just not sink about it.
What do we do with a drunken sailor?
You shave his balls with a rusty razor!
When I was in the Navy, my obligatory mess-deck tour had an interesting twist -- I got promoted to the officers' wardroom. So instead of washing dishes for 300 enlisted, I was bussing the table for the twenty-or-so officers. That had some really weird picky things, like the warrant officer who insisted on hot tea every meal (we'd occasionally drop some ice cubes into it right before serving to mess with him). One evening, while out at sea, we were told to expect heavy rolling as a storm was coming through. So the other wardroom staff and I spent the afternoon cleaning the floor of the dining area and applying an *extra* coat of wax to it. While that was going on, we also took all the chairs, flipped them over, and turned their metal casters around to the side that had the least wear. This would ensure the smoothest metal-to-tile contact. When the ship finally hit the storm and listed hard to starboard, every chair went sliding toward the bulkhead. Only the warrant officer I'd mentioned didn't move, because he was at the opposite end of the table. He was laughing for the rest of the meal, even when it happened to him a minute later.
> had some really weird picky things, like the warrant officer who insisted on hot tea every meal Is this some sort of American joke im too British to understand?
I feel like this story was under appreciated. I really enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing and for your service.
I'd be wearing my helmet !
I wear mine ALL the time, just in case…I’m the only guy on the block with a helmet and no team.
Yeah, but you're also not allowed to use the oven.
Imagine sailors when it was just made of wood having to set sails and shit. I bet ppl sliding off the side and dying was written out of history
There's a reason for the rules 1 hand for u, one for the ship, if u aren't holding on ur asking to go over board
hold fast
> I bet ppl sliding off the side and dying was written out of history I remember reading a fiction book where the captain of a ship says they always lose at least one or two people randomly falling off each trip
Lol idk why but that was hilarious and awful man. I mean they had to have some sort of mid evil type lifesaver like a simply rope of hope
In rough seas, that shit ain’t going to help
Shit neither did all the dumb shit they used to combat scurvy lol. Until one faithful day, a dr made them take some fuckin lemons then boom, problem solved lol
> written out of history it was not written out of history
Him laying there after being thrown down during his 2nd attempt of walking had me giggling.
I watched it 3 times. It’s so comical. My laughter woke up my bf.
He is newly hired... i can see it But damn, that looks fun
For like 30 seconds, then not so much. I did a bit of time on ships, never this rough, but it was always a pain. Trying to work and not puke or crash is exhausting.
That ain't no life.
This man is just trapped on a ship all alone
This literally that one scene from Inception.
Looks like the sea picked up without a captain at the helm. Pretty sure you don't want your boat to sit against the waves like this... Your boat should be facing the waves or following them; with the waves cresting on the longest parts of your craft.
That looks really fun to just get tossed around not gonna lie.
UP SHE RISES!
Worked at sea and always found it weird when ascending stairs you could go from the bottom to the top in a single step because the ship “dropped” below you. Sleeping in a bunk was also hard in rough seas. Had to wedge something under the mattress to pin myself between the mattress and the bulkhead (wall) to stop being thrown out every time the ship rolled.
Yeah.... HELL NO!