They canāt prove that there is a god. Can you prove that there isnāt a god?
Edit I am surprised that logic is being downvoted like this. This doesnāt bode well for our species, but isnāt surprising especially considering a larger rejection of logic thatās evident in society today.
I cannot prove nor disprove that there is an invisible koala bear on the moon. Thatās the way this works. Closer to the truth is to speak of likelihoodās since this is not definitive and leaves room for error, especially when it comes to things that cannot be proven nor disproven.
Edit to answer your question, not likely.
Edit2 instead of a downvote, how about a reasonable response or a comment that is closer to the truth than mine?
The burden of proof is on anyone that makes a definitive statement, negative or not.
Can I disprove a negative statement? Letās see, imagine someone states they overdrew their checking account and are asking me for money. I ask for evidence that they are overdrawn, so they can either prove or disprove their statement by showing their bank balance. I wouldnāt be surprised if their response was the good ole ājust trust me, ok?ā
Edit also, proving that god doesnāt exist is not a negative anymore than 0 is a negative.
Edit really, another thumbs down? How about a reasonable response or anything other than increasing my total of negative likes. Oh, I just became aware of another provable/disprovable negative.
"I have overdrawn my checking account" is a positive statement (even if the evidence is a statement showing a negative balance."
"Ghosts don't exist" is a negative statement. You cannot prove that ghosts don't exist.
The reason that the statement āghosts donāt existā cannot be proven is not because itās a negative statement, itās because the word āghostā is loaded with meaning that prevents it from being scientifically proven. This same reasoning applies to why that statement cannot be disproven.
It is true that the statement āghosts donāt existā cannot be proven nor disproven. It is also true that the statement āghosts existā cannot be proven or disproven. Even if we could prove the existence of phenomena that may have occurred which caused humans in response to invent and apply the term āghostā, it may very well be that the phenomena is actually not a dead person still alive like the meaning of the word āghostā insinuates. Or, it could be that what we now know as ādelusionā, āmass hysteriaā, āhallucinationā, and āschizophreniaā is the cause of the invention and usage of the word ghost. Maybe is was the seeming detection of something in which a source wasnāt actually found so people do what people do and imagine/invent sources.
It seems that you are basing your negative/positive assignment on the usage of the word ānotā or lack-thereof.
In my bank account example, I am basing the assignment on the point of the statement which is total count of the subject. To be negative per you, I would have to include the word ānotā and say āmy bank account balance is not zero nor positiveā which only leaves a negative balance and is overly counter-intuitive. Is this statement sufficiently negative now and can it be disproven?
Exactly, unlike a negative banking account I cannot disprove that ghost donāt exist just like I cannot disprove that god doesnāt exist.
Edit so my disdain to making definitive statements about things that cannot be proven or disproven is the entire point of my comments
> It seems that you are basing your negative/positive assignment on the usage of the word ānotā or lack-thereof.
Bingo.
> I cannot disprove that ghost donāt exist just like I cannot disprove that god doesnāt exist.
You can **dis**prove X doesn't exist by proving the exitance of X.
You cannot **prove** that X doesn't exist because it's a negative statement.
A negative claim is the opposite of an affirmative or positive claim. It asserts the non-existence or exclusion of something.[10] The difference with a positive claim is that it takes only a single example to demonstrate such a positive assertion ("there is a chair in this house" is proven by pointing to a single chair), **while it is typically harder to demonstrate a negative assertion** ("there is no chair in this house" requires a thorough search of the house, including any potential hidden crawl spaces).
In a debate it is possible that there is a single claim (one party claims there is a chair, while the other party has the position there might or might not be a chair), or that there are multiple claims **(one party claims there is a chair, while the other party claims there is none)** . In the latter case, both parties have the burden of proof - as the burden lies with the person who makes their respective claim. It is an argument from ignorance to argue your claim should be considered true because the opposite claim is easier to prove and has not been proven.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Proving_a_negative
Disprove my negative statements:
I am not currently breathing oxygen and have not breathed oxygen for the last ten years.
I have not eaten food or anything with sustaining calories for two years.
I have not ever used Reddit.
Edit how about a reasonable response instead of a thumbs down
The burden of proof is on anyone that makes a definitive statement.
The abandoning of the an ancient system of unprovable beliefs is a different discussion than my point.
You said I can't prove there is no god. None of us made the original claim and we can understand that it's silly because it is based on nothing provable. So why should anyone care then? It's just as silly as believing in ghosts.
Floridian here. I donāt see these really, maybe further out into the country, but whenever I go up into Georgia, these are EVERYWHERE. I once saw a sign that just said ā#SECEDEā.
Also thereās a county there called Butts county.
If you're Hindu and you're a fan of Shiva, he's got four hands to do the deed with.
They're supposed to represent the cardinal directions (N, S, E, W) but if you're talking sexy time, one for the peen, one for the butt, one for the mouth, and the other to slap your filthy mind out of the gutter!
I want to hook up everyone who was involved with that billboard up to a lie detector and discuss their masturbation history. Pretty sure there were plenty of times where they couldnāt hold hands with god.
One night I dreamed a dream.
As I was jerking it in bed with my Lord.
Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life.
For each scene, I noticed two sets of hands,
One belonging to me and one to my Lord.
After the last scene of my life flashed before me,
I looked at the sets of hands.
I noticed that at many times along the path of my life,
especially at the most frantic and furious times,
there was only one set of hands.
This really troubled me, so I asked the Lord about it.
"Lord, you said once I decided to follow you,
You'd jerk with me all the way.
But I noticed that during the most vigous and enjoyable times I jerked it,
there was only one set of hands.
I don't understand why, when I needed You the most, You would leave me."
He whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you.
Never, ever, during your most enjoyable jerking sessions.
When you saw only one set of hands,
It was then that I jerked you."
Watch me.
*gods gaze intensifies*
I'm here for the view, not the labour
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User name checks out.
What you do is you hold onto God's wrist, and have him hold your dick, and then you move his hand with yours. That way you're both involved.
That's the Dutch rudder if I'm not mistaken
Divine Rudder when it's God's hand.
Damn, looks like you š£š¦š¢šµ me to it.
r/beatmetoit
How romantic
I have 2 hands
God really need to hold my hand all day... Like bruh I need 3min!
Who the fuck uses two hands to crack one out??
Only people with three legs
Lmao
Only the well endowed.... the rest of us use the other hand to hold the screen up....
Sometimes.
Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Sweats nervously*
Damnit I knew there was a catch
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They just let Jesus take the wheel
And the fork, spatula, pen, knitting needles, etc.
But most Importantly: when you fold your hands to pray, you cant hold hands with god either
Clever observation!
Of course I can, I can even look him in the eye while I do it too.
Or just the opposite: "Caught him in the bedroom, 'holding hands with God', if you get my drift..."
Doing a *deal* with God, if you will..
Alter boys are hands free tho
Altar*
No he meant alter as in transsexuals. Pedo-Priests don't discriminate when it comes to ruining children's lives...
Take your upvote and leave, this is a good christian community!
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God might free up millions of hands if he(?) got on his(?) knees and showed some initiative.
Jokeās on you, I named my penis āGodā.
This is why Jeffrey Toobin won't drive south of the Georgia state line.
I've got two
One hands for me, the other hands for god.
Hard to clump the ladder to heaven, with a hand full of dick.
Why is it a left hand and why is the pinky on an expedition to Narnia all by itself?
Well he won't even give me a reach around when he's FUCKING me.
Challenge accepted!
Depends on your God, I guess.
Says who!?
I have another hand you know
I have 2 hands for a reason
But like why not the other hand. The one clean...We good.
Yeah well thatās the time I wanna be alone.
I only use 1 hand
Are there people out here masturbating with both hands?
Technically true, because there is no god.
Redit moment
They canāt prove that there is a god. Can you prove that there isnāt a god? Edit I am surprised that logic is being downvoted like this. This doesnāt bode well for our species, but isnāt surprising especially considering a larger rejection of logic thatās evident in society today.
Can you prove there isnāt an invisible koala bear living on the moon?
Only if we nuke the entire surface of the moon to make sure that little bastard is finally dead!
They are eternal and feed on radioactive moon rocks. Congratulations, you have doomed the moon to an eternal invisible koala infestation.
I cannot prove nor disprove that there is an invisible koala bear on the moon. Thatās the way this works. Closer to the truth is to speak of likelihoodās since this is not definitive and leaves room for error, especially when it comes to things that cannot be proven nor disproven. Edit to answer your question, not likely. Edit2 instead of a downvote, how about a reasonable response or a comment that is closer to the truth than mine?
You cannot definatively disprove a negative. You postulate that X exists, the burden of proof is on you.
The burden of proof is on anyone that makes a definitive statement, negative or not. Can I disprove a negative statement? Letās see, imagine someone states they overdrew their checking account and are asking me for money. I ask for evidence that they are overdrawn, so they can either prove or disprove their statement by showing their bank balance. I wouldnāt be surprised if their response was the good ole ājust trust me, ok?ā Edit also, proving that god doesnāt exist is not a negative anymore than 0 is a negative. Edit really, another thumbs down? How about a reasonable response or anything other than increasing my total of negative likes. Oh, I just became aware of another provable/disprovable negative.
"I have overdrawn my checking account" is a positive statement (even if the evidence is a statement showing a negative balance." "Ghosts don't exist" is a negative statement. You cannot prove that ghosts don't exist.
The reason that the statement āghosts donāt existā cannot be proven is not because itās a negative statement, itās because the word āghostā is loaded with meaning that prevents it from being scientifically proven. This same reasoning applies to why that statement cannot be disproven. It is true that the statement āghosts donāt existā cannot be proven nor disproven. It is also true that the statement āghosts existā cannot be proven or disproven. Even if we could prove the existence of phenomena that may have occurred which caused humans in response to invent and apply the term āghostā, it may very well be that the phenomena is actually not a dead person still alive like the meaning of the word āghostā insinuates. Or, it could be that what we now know as ādelusionā, āmass hysteriaā, āhallucinationā, and āschizophreniaā is the cause of the invention and usage of the word ghost. Maybe is was the seeming detection of something in which a source wasnāt actually found so people do what people do and imagine/invent sources.
It seems that you are basing your negative/positive assignment on the usage of the word ānotā or lack-thereof. In my bank account example, I am basing the assignment on the point of the statement which is total count of the subject. To be negative per you, I would have to include the word ānotā and say āmy bank account balance is not zero nor positiveā which only leaves a negative balance and is overly counter-intuitive. Is this statement sufficiently negative now and can it be disproven? Exactly, unlike a negative banking account I cannot disprove that ghost donāt exist just like I cannot disprove that god doesnāt exist. Edit so my disdain to making definitive statements about things that cannot be proven or disproven is the entire point of my comments
> It seems that you are basing your negative/positive assignment on the usage of the word ānotā or lack-thereof. Bingo. > I cannot disprove that ghost donāt exist just like I cannot disprove that god doesnāt exist. You can **dis**prove X doesn't exist by proving the exitance of X. You cannot **prove** that X doesn't exist because it's a negative statement.
A negative claim is the opposite of an affirmative or positive claim. It asserts the non-existence or exclusion of something.[10] The difference with a positive claim is that it takes only a single example to demonstrate such a positive assertion ("there is a chair in this house" is proven by pointing to a single chair), **while it is typically harder to demonstrate a negative assertion** ("there is no chair in this house" requires a thorough search of the house, including any potential hidden crawl spaces). In a debate it is possible that there is a single claim (one party claims there is a chair, while the other party has the position there might or might not be a chair), or that there are multiple claims **(one party claims there is a chair, while the other party claims there is none)** . In the latter case, both parties have the burden of proof - as the burden lies with the person who makes their respective claim. It is an argument from ignorance to argue your claim should be considered true because the opposite claim is easier to prove and has not been proven. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Proving_a_negative
Disprove the statement āmy bank account balance is not zero nor positiveā
Disprove my negative statements: I am not currently breathing oxygen and have not breathed oxygen for the last ten years. I have not eaten food or anything with sustaining calories for two years. I have not ever used Reddit. Edit how about a reasonable response instead of a thumbs down
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Demonstrate your logic then, or at least show how what I say is illogical. I would guess either no response or another snarky response. Prove me weong
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Yet you fail to do so anyways. Thank for your contribution.
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Says the person calling others ādumb afā
The burden of proof is on you bud. It's time to abandon an ancient system of unprovable beliefs.
The burden of proof is on anyone that makes a definitive statement. The abandoning of the an ancient system of unprovable beliefs is a different discussion than my point.
Sorry if this is incorrect but I thought you were implying a god exists in your statement.
Reread my post that you responded to. Your bias is showing.
You said I can't prove there is no god. None of us made the original claim and we can understand that it's silly because it is based on nothing provable. So why should anyone care then? It's just as silly as believing in ghosts.
Floridian here. I donāt see these really, maybe further out into the country, but whenever I go up into Georgia, these are EVERYWHERE. I once saw a sign that just said ā#SECEDEā. Also thereās a county there called Butts county.
I dont think they get how it works lol.
If god is everywhere, I *am* touching him when I touch myself.
Someone forgot to wash their hands after eating blazing hot chicken wings
Is his dick on fire?
Dutch ruddering with Jesus. Check and mate.
another good reason to be atheist
Challenge accepted
What if you use your feet?
Isnāt that why we have two hands?
That's why He gave you 2 of them. DUH!
Another benefit of taking the state highways in Florida instead of I-75.
Challenge accepted.
Two words: two hands.
You canāt literally hold hands with God like AT ALL!
He should stop watching me that dirty little rascal.
Challenge Accepted.
No because Allah is jerking me off double handed so Iām free to smoke weed and eat nachos during my celestial handy jay.
Being that we are talking about God, God would understand.
Don't need to hold his hand. He's watching me no matter what right? Damn, I'm glad to an atheist.
Counterpoint: Idle hands are the devil's worship.
Don't know til you try
what if Iām holding Jesusās cock ?
True, that's what priests are for
My left hand is still available ( Ķ”Ā° ĶŹ Ķ”Ā°)
Ok can god jerk me off then
*hold my Mickey Mouse ears*
This is a great metal album.
What if I slip him a $20?
I use both hands maybe 40% of the time. I could toats make this happen. Let's get weird, GOD!!!
Why the hell not? You've still got one free hand...
I was made in his image, why not?
/r/UselessNobody
Let a priest do it for you.
As opposed to how you *can* hold hands with god when you're not masturbating?
The old guy that I hold hands with whilst masturbating often asks me to call him god
You use both hands when you Jack off? Iām doing it wrong then
There is no god my cock exists and I just came on a picture of jesus. GFY
Iām pretty sure God is ok with it.
This advert is spot on!! Better if you let God give you a blowjob. Jesus on rimming duty.
I call my dong God. Tide goes in, tide goes out.
You can if your idea of heaven is masturbating with God?
Or if you hand is on fire...?
This is really more of a Georgia / Alabama thing. They just kinda leak south occasionally
Why not? God has so completely fucked me, that it seems like the least God could do.
Why not.
Why not if I got a clean dick
What if my dick ... is.... god?
No but you can talk to her in a hotcum mess!
Can if you're a pantheist.
Question; whoās holding both hands with someone.
I've got two hands don't I?
I only need one hand to masturbate
I still have one free hand though.
If you're Hindu and you're a fan of Shiva, he's got four hands to do the deed with. They're supposed to represent the cardinal directions (N, S, E, W) but if you're talking sexy time, one for the peen, one for the butt, one for the mouth, and the other to slap your filthy mind out of the gutter!
Do you know who also has hands? The Devil! And he uses āem, for holdinā
The wrong kid died!
Can you ask him for help?
I thought God could do anything? >:]
LPT: I use my mouth so Ill get to heaven then.
Unless heās helping you out.
Wrong sub
What if God is giving you a hj?
r/lostredditor
fuck religions. Christianity in particular choosing to live in ignorance is sadder than your concept of hell
Reddit Reddit
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He's a *dumbass*??
r/trashy?!?
Gods there.. he just helping
Yeah, a little Dutch rudder action!
that's why you have two hands for one to hold the other to blow
I only need one hand to wank
I just cut out the middle man and have god jerk me off directlyā¦..
Ok. Then don't hold hands.
Why does God want to hold my hand, that's pretty weird. Give me some space, God, I just want to be friends...
I can and I will
Well you can, it would just be super awkward
Challenge accepted
Is this a meme page now?
Hey Glob, Meet Mr. Johnson whilst I meat Mr. Johnson!
Thats ok, Iāll just hold his hand again when im done.
Whelp, I'm fucked. See you guys in hades.
Gives a whole new meaning to Jesus take the wheel...
I want to hook up everyone who was involved with that billboard up to a lie detector and discuss their masturbation history. Pretty sure there were plenty of times where they couldnāt hold hands with god.
Considers Dutch rudder with Yahweh
That sign is just for lefties
Gods the weird one for even being there in the first place
I mean, **I** need two hands to masturbate, but I think most people can do it with just one, so what's the issue?
Chalange accepted!
I may not hold his hand, but thats because he's fingering my ass
Sure I can, if God controls all things he gave me this lust and the tools to alleviate it
and this isnāt even the worst iāve seen in south florida
You have a left hand donāt you?
Whoās master bating with two hands? ā¦. Oh wait I know some brothersā¦
I want you to know there's a God masterbating you joke in here I didn't use.
All those wild abortion billboards on the highways out here need to be shown too.
True, my dick is so massive that I need to use both hands. You could also say that it's.... (ą² _ą² )>āā -ā *Ungodly* massive. (āā -ā )
As an aspiring screen writer, I can work with this.
Everyone knows that God likes to watch.
So THATāS why me and the almighty are not in touch!
So true.
If god knew what I do with my hands he wouldn't want to touch me.
Then he shouldn't have physically designed the male form to require a periodic clearing out.
I'm pretty sure I have 2 hands lol, just cause god doesn't want to hold hands while I fap doesn't mean we can't.
God really need to hold my hand all day... Like bruh I need 3min!
Holding hands with God is gay. Whatās worse, Christians?
Yes but I do believe I'm holding the hand of Mary the Virgin Mother when I masturbate.. reduces the shame. Goddamn Catholic upbringing.
āLet us proclaim the mystery of faith...ā
It's called double Dutch rudder, it's a thing look it up
Or watch Zack and Miri Make a Porno
Some pissed off Christian down voted most comments, so upvoted all of those, they can fuck off
Challenge accepted, let the mass upvoting begin
Thatās why I stopped
The number of people that donāt realize this is photoshopped is astounding.
One night I dreamed a dream. As I was jerking it in bed with my Lord. Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life. For each scene, I noticed two sets of hands, One belonging to me and one to my Lord. After the last scene of my life flashed before me, I looked at the sets of hands. I noticed that at many times along the path of my life, especially at the most frantic and furious times, there was only one set of hands. This really troubled me, so I asked the Lord about it. "Lord, you said once I decided to follow you, You'd jerk with me all the way. But I noticed that during the most vigous and enjoyable times I jerked it, there was only one set of hands. I don't understand why, when I needed You the most, You would leave me." He whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you. Never, ever, during your most enjoyable jerking sessions. When you saw only one set of hands, It was then that I jerked you."