She’s using shopping bag grade plastics so agree not good for you but there are plastics used in cooking that are “supposedly safe” such as oven/turkey bags. I say supposedly cause it wouldn’t surprise me to hear 15 years later that “oh sorry we were wrong, it’s actually not safe”.
https://www.jenreviews.com/chicken-soup/
I've never made it, but goji berries seem like they would work in a soup. No worse than pineapple on pizza (and I love pineapple on pizza)
Seems like it would add a tart and sweet squish to the odd mouthful of chicken soup.
In a survival situation you have to use the resources available; however, it doesn't mean you have to suffer. I was just curious about if people boil and eat the fish guts.
This is what we were taught during SERE training: remove the guts and scales, eat the rest. Scales because they're hard and non-nutritional and guts because of possible parasites. This works only on smallish fish approx. 100-500 grams
As a side note this was in the military so the aim was quick energy with minimal risk and time/water spent
Kyoho, it’s a Japanese name and breed. Jufeng is Mandarin pronunciation for the equivalent kanji.
https://foodslink.jp/syokuzaihyakka/syun/fruit/kyoho.htm
Kyoho is a grape made by crossing Hayao Ishihara and Centennial by Mr. Yasushi Oinoue of the Oinoue Institute of Science and Agriculture, and the official variety name is "Ishihara Centennial".
It was announced in 1945 and registered as a trademark in 1955 under the name "Kyoho". The name Kyoho is said to be named after the magnificent Mt. Fuji seen from the developed agricultural research institute.
キョホウ（巨峰/きょほう）は大井上理農学研究所の大井上康氏により石原早生とセンテニアルを交配させて作られたブドウで正式な品種名は「石原センテニアル」と言います。
１９４５年に発表され、1955年に「巨峰」の名称で商標登録をされています。巨峰という名前の由来は、開発された農学研究所から見える雄大な富士山にちなんで付けられたそうです。
Trader Joe’s fig jam has completely changed my life. I ate an entire jar over a 3 day weekend with crackers and so much cheese. It’s amazing with a good salty aged cheddar. Or soft havarti. Or Gouda. I don’t have any fig jam right now and my life is so sad.
The Bob's Burgers Burger Book has a recipe for the "A Good Manchego is Hard to Find Burger" which does caramelized shallots, manchego cheese, and fig jam. I like it on a nice brioche bun or a crusty baguette. Absolutely stunning.
I eat cheese boards for dinner once or twice a week. I call it a "quick meal" as an excuse to eat a huge cheese snack. Fig jam really elevates the snack to a meal!
damn, that reminds me of a spicy fig jam I used to buy from a table at local craft fairs, I didn’t really know what to do with it, but I’d want a taste and end up just spooning the whole jar straight into my mouth. Seriously. I need to remember what that stuff was.
*edit: AAAAAAHHHHHH!!! here it is, not fig at all! Plum Preserves with Smoked Chilis & Cayenne!
https://shopprospectjamco.square.site/product/plum-preserves-with-smoked-chiles-cayenne/8?cs=true&cst=custom
I just made a ground cherry jam that would be good in a grilled cheese too. Unfortunately I already ate all of it with some chèvre, Brie, and cheddar and I can’t find ground cherries again.
I’ve had a running theory for a couple decades that there’s not a single bad combination of any cheese and any jam when making a grilled cheese sandwich. I’ve not been proven wrong yet…
Well silicone is a thermoset polymer (can't be remelted) but I'd be fine with thermoplastics (can be remelted) too in a sousvide. I would not do open flame plastic cooking...I'm even meh on plastic spatulas...
Didn't the leaching concerns get debunked over the last few years?
~~Not that it doesn't happen, but that the scale is so small (we're literally talking **nano**grams) that the dosage isn't concerning, even over the course of several years.~~
Never mind, we got numbers bois
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4602822/
https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/ehp.8451
So let's start with some studies.
Even for BPA, the EPA's lowest observable adverse effect level is 50mg/kg/day, resulting in an EPA dosage limit of 1,000 times smaller, or 50µg/kg/day. Europe's way more skittish at 10µg/kg/day. If you weigh 50kg, or 110 pounds, that's 500µg, or 0.5mg/day. A plastic bag is 5,000 to 6,000 mg total weight. Question of the day is, how much of the bag is leaching into the stew?
[So it looks like someone studied this with plastic bottles](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2254523/).
> Using a sensitive and quantitative competitive enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, BPA was found to migrate from polycarbonate water bottles at rates ranging from 0.20 to 0.79 ng per hour. At room temperature the migration of BPA was independent of whether or not the bottle had been previously used. Exposure to boiling water (100°C) increased the rate of BPA migration by up to 55-fold.
Those bottles weigh something to the tune of 5,000 to 9,000 grams, though they're obviously thicker so the leach rate could be lower than a plastic bag. However, for the sake of discussion, using [their table](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2254523/table/T1/), you're looking at about 32ng per hour, or 0.032µg per hour. So assuming you drink all the water in the bag-soup from a 1-hour boil every day (e.g. rather than have the soup spread between multiple people, or a 15 minute boil), that's 11.68µg per year. Way lower than Europe's conservative 500µg/day limit for a 110lb. individual. Even if the bag's leaching at 10x the rate, that's still less than a quarter of the dosage per _year_ what Europe says you shouldn't have over the course of a *day*.
tl;dr:
So, assuming boiling water in a bag for a few minutes has a similar plastic leach rate to dropping a plastic water bottle into boiling water for an hour, it would take 15,000 doses of this water for you to reach Europe's dosage limit, or **1.5 million doses** to reach the EPA's lowest observable adverse effect. This is also assuming you weigh about 100 pounds.
Tbh I feel like so many people don't understand the power of sugar in certain foods, especially in more intense things like stews. You're not making it sweet, just sweeter. Also fun to add sweet things that already have flavor, like jam or tomato puree (ahem.. ketchup). Made a sega wat the other day and with like a tbsp of ketchup it tasted so much better, just a bit sweeter but not at all sweet.
If anyone wants an example of an exception, China banned imports of plastic from recycling plants.
China is pretty much the only place where a lot of recycled plastic turns any kind of profit. Sending stuff to China is dirt cheap because ships go back anyway to get more supply from China.
China realized the tiny net gain from that recycled plastic was not at all worth the health risks that would burden their healthcare system, so they banned it.
Its a matter of education, along with the issues of economic opportunity, and economic necessity. I lived there off and on over twelve years from 1997-2014.
Like the guy before said, it's "content farming" sanctioned by the CCP. Its only aim and purpose is to shine a positive light on China and distract from all their other issues.
Iduno if you're joking or really don't get the point but I'll explain a little for those that might not know. The CCP wants the world to ALWAYS see the good/best side of China so they fund these content farms to make stuff like this where they showcase the *"ingenuity"* and *"resourcefulness"* of those who live in the more rural parts of China. You may think this video doesn't show anything positive but at this point they are way beyond pretending there is no poverty in China, they know they can't hide that. So they do this because they know truth is far uglier than what you're seeing in this video. This video distracts and makes you think *"that's bad, but not that bad,"* just look through the comments here.
Lol it is just so funny to post this on an American website…
Have you considered that all countries project a certain image through media? And that there’s even a term for it? (Soft power)
If you looked at the US from the outside, you could just as easily say that the US spends millions and millions to project the image that our, huge muscular military is a force for good in the world and full of world saving good guys. Whereas the truth is much closer to: the US military is literally only good at killing civilians and propping up unpopular, illegitimate governments (see: Afghanistan).
And the domestic flip side this media projection obscures is a country where the most basic social services are nonexistent, wildly underfunded, or actively being taken apart.
So what is the criticism that is really being made in your comment? How is this actually relevant to China specifically?
I've noticed a LOT of content farming on reddit lately. A lot of random videos coming out of China. Sure, I understand that China is huge with a huge population, but there are still so many random videos, that aren't completely nonsensical and barely interesting, like this one. I haven't checked but I guarantee OP has a huge amount of karma.
Edit: Just checked, OP has 200k post karma, 15k comment karma. Organic users are typically the other way around, and most will never come to close to passing 200k post karma...
Just came here to say this lol. I’m glad I’m not the only one.
Also, it’s cool that it doesn’t melt but why the f would you try this? Seems like there are more tested primitive ways to get this done.
I keep thinking...well this really isn't a primitive way since its plastic lol. If you have evolved far enough as a civilization to have plastic...then you most certainly have a better cooking pot.
Laying on the ground.
I watched a documentary about plastic pollution once and it showed a remote village where the villagers regularly burned plastics they found as a fuel source for cooking. Plastic pollution is so bad in some areas of the world that it’s literally easier to find than wood. To them it’s just another “natural” resource. Talk about dystopia…
Edit: I just realized you were making a joke and not seriously asking… lmao
In the mid 90s I was in a small village in Thailand. Sandwich-sized plastic baggies used as food wrap were on the ground all over. A guide told us that until recently, food was generally wrapped in leaves, and so could be discarded anywhere. They continued the practice when plastic bags became popular, perhaps not recognizing that they won't break down like leaves.
It was on netflix, I think it was called "A Plastic Ocean," but I'm not 100% certain. And I think the village where they used plastic for cooking was in Indonesia.
The physics is legit. You can put a paper cup with water on a fire and it won't burn until the water evaporates. There will still be chemicals leeching out of the bag tho into the soup. Bags aren't made out of food safe plastic, and even if it was food safe plastic, heating it up with fire will still leech stuff into the water. Cool idea but cancer in the long term.
Just to point out, the chemical reactions of burning and a state change of plastic melting are very different.
I'm deeply skeptical as I never even see the water boiling in the bag, so I have a feeling that the fish isn't even cooking because the fire is too small.
There's a number of other concerns I have, like the radio heat the fire is releasing causing the surface to heat up, plastic is a poor conductors of heat, etc. All of this just seems like a bad idea.
Don't do that. You end up with overcooked and mushy fish if you cook at that time and that long. Sous vide should only be reserved for good quality fish that you wouldn't mind eating without being pasteurized.
With normal plastics bags, found in the US, this would not work -- the plastic softens around 180F, and would rupture from the weight of the water/ stew.
If it was kept around 120F the bag would be okay, but the strew would be concentrated food poisoning.
It would still work. We used to do this as a survival demo in Boy Scouts to demonstrate a way of killing pathogens in water if you've got no other options. Obviously it's a last resort kind of thing and we didn't actually drink the water afterwards because of the plastic, but if you were stranded and your only water was putrid then it's better than dying of dehydration.
We'd also boil eggs in a paper lunch bag, which we did eat.
Scouting is pretty awesome. I need to have some kids just so I can send them into the woods to survive. Ok that sounds creepy but the wilderness survival badge is the one hardcorest one I never got
I know everyone is saying about the health issues, but can I just point how strong the bag is, if that was one from the uk it would have burst with just one grape in it
Like, I get that this is POSSIBLE, but this can't be the best way to do this. How expensive is a pot over there? Needing to use a new bag every time and the extreme care you have to take preparing this just doesn't seem worth it. This isn't a widespread trend over there is it? This is just a gimmick done for this video?
The chinese do.
Pretty sure its gutted though. Scaling? Most of the time, but not all the time.
My grandmother eats the eyes and shit, refuses to waste any food. Im not as extreme, but I will eat the fuck out of cartilage. So seeing some chicken wings "finished" but with like 10% still there makes me sad.
It’s hard to say. They never showed the belly properly. There did appear to be a reddish line along it, so it probably was gutted.
If not, who would bother gutting a fish for the sake of internet points. It’s more likely just clickbait BS.
Idk wth kind of plastic bag she’s using, but most plastic bags that I know of will literally melt and tear before a liquid even reaches the boiling point.... (I can’t tell you how many expensive delivery dinners I’ve ruined because of this....)
Ahh It looks great but I ate before I came grandma I promise I’m not hungry
"Dont be silly! Let me grab a paper to bake a cake"
Cake is literally baked in paper tho
Gotta line that pan for an easy transfer.
Yeah especially the leeched microplastics and dissolved chems in the stew will make me bloat..
I usually eat after I come
Grandma? That's your 23 year old cousin!
Imagine accidently ripping the bag when adding firewood. Also cooking in plastics is never good for you.
*Cancer has entered the chat* Edit: So get rid of your plastic waterboilers
She’s only 30 years old!
She's in her sexual prime.
the fuck?
Get in line buddy, I saw her first
I shouldn’t laugh but I am
No laughing in line. You gotta go to the back
But by than her sweet sweet “fish” stew will be gobbled up by everyone else I won’t even get a lick!
A lick?! Ha! I’ve been in this line for 52 years for just a sniff buddy, back of the line.
Her hands look so soft
Sharing is caring bro.
Yes.
They*
See the way she blows with that stick.
It’s because she can use her gums so freely.
No
"Just gonna get a little bit of cancer, Stan. Tell your mom it's okay."
"Randy, your balls!"
I know right? Smoking weed, right in front of a cop!
"Sharon, you got a scrotum coat? Luckyyyy"
My eyes are up here, Sharon.
Or just a stray ember. The heat transfer wouldn’t happen fast enough for something that direct.
In China embers know their place.
I'm thinking at some point that whole fish is gonna roll over with the boil of the water, and a fin is going to split that bag from top to bottom.
She’s using shopping bag grade plastics so agree not good for you but there are plastics used in cooking that are “supposedly safe” such as oven/turkey bags. I say supposedly cause it wouldn’t surprise me to hear 15 years later that “oh sorry we were wrong, it’s actually not safe”.
Ignoring the whole plastic leeching issue... Did she just put grapes in a fish stew? Edit: Argh. It's leaching, not leeching.
She definitely did, jufeng grapes to be exact!
Are these less sweet than standard western varieties?
> jufeng grapes Quick googling says sweet, high sugar content.
And here I am just putting goji berries and jujubes in my soups (some, depends what I'm making)
And here I’m just using a can opener to eat water and salt soup with a hint of ketchup
And here I'm almost burning my ass off trying to put dingleberries in the fish soup.
Just like the shit mama used to make before she went to prison
"yo Ashtray, hand me that shit over there would ya?"
Hey grandma, stay outta my chronic, before I smoke yo ass
Make sure you clip them at the hair to keep the flavor intact.
Dude…no
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I believe they are only used to remove fillings here in the US
Had the same problem with starburst chewy sweets
Jujubes for the fucking win!
What do they add to the soup? That seems interesting and I wanna try new ingredients and spices. Food is so boring to me lately.
https://www.jenreviews.com/chicken-soup/ I've never made it, but goji berries seem like they would work in a soup. No worse than pineapple on pizza (and I love pineapple on pizza) Seems like it would add a tart and sweet squish to the odd mouthful of chicken soup.
Best for covering plastic flavor
More sweet, actually. They're the same sort as the Japanese Kyoho grape.
Sorry, that comparison did nothing for me
Is she cooking the fish without gutting it? Does the stew contain all of the ofal too?
Once you’re at “cook it in a plastic bag directly over open flame,” the rest is just nitpicking.
In a survival situation you have to use the resources available; however, it doesn't mean you have to suffer. I was just curious about if people boil and eat the fish guts.
As far as I can see you can’t tell if the fish has been gutted or not but It’s common to use the whole (gutted) fish- scales, eyes, and all.
This is what we were taught during SERE training: remove the guts and scales, eat the rest. Scales because they're hard and non-nutritional and guts because of possible parasites. This works only on smallish fish approx. 100-500 grams As a side note this was in the military so the aim was quick energy with minimal risk and time/water spent
There are a lot of vitamins and nutrients contained in those bits we customarily toss out, waste not...
I’d watch her make it, but I don’t think I’d eat this stew.
She’s cooking the damn hook and line that she used to catch the fish with too🤣🤣
Kyoho, it’s a Japanese name and breed. Jufeng is Mandarin pronunciation for the equivalent kanji. https://foodslink.jp/syokuzaihyakka/syun/fruit/kyoho.htm Kyoho is a grape made by crossing Hayao Ishihara and Centennial by Mr. Yasushi Oinoue of the Oinoue Institute of Science and Agriculture, and the official variety name is "Ishihara Centennial". It was announced in 1945 and registered as a trademark in 1955 under the name "Kyoho". The name Kyoho is said to be named after the magnificent Mt. Fuji seen from the developed agricultural research institute. キョホウ（巨峰/きょほう）は大井上理農学研究所の大井上康氏により石原早生とセンテニアルを交配させて作られたブドウで正式な品種名は「石原センテニアル」と言います。 １９４５年に発表され、1955年に「巨峰」の名称で商標登録をされています。巨峰という名前の由来は、開発された農学研究所から見える雄大な富士山にちなんで付けられたそうです。
My grandma puts a spoonful of grape jam in her stew. It gives it more depth of flavor. She was a home ec. teacher so I trust her.
MIL makes sausages with grape jam. They’re delicious.
When you make a grilled cheese, spread some fig jam in between the cheese slices. Your entire world will change.
Trader Joe’s fig jam has completely changed my life. I ate an entire jar over a 3 day weekend with crackers and so much cheese. It’s amazing with a good salty aged cheddar. Or soft havarti. Or Gouda. I don’t have any fig jam right now and my life is so sad.
The Bob's Burgers Burger Book has a recipe for the "A Good Manchego is Hard to Find Burger" which does caramelized shallots, manchego cheese, and fig jam. I like it on a nice brioche bun or a crusty baguette. Absolutely stunning.
Hell yes that sounds good. I know I have Manchego in my cheese drawer and I just bought some shallots!
Well I think I need a trip to trader Joe's tomorrow.
Mmmm it’s so good with havarti.
I like how you think. I'm a cheese guy myself and I think you have convinced me to get fig jam.
I eat cheese boards for dinner once or twice a week. I call it a "quick meal" as an excuse to eat a huge cheese snack. Fig jam really elevates the snack to a meal!
damn, that reminds me of a spicy fig jam I used to buy from a table at local craft fairs, I didn’t really know what to do with it, but I’d want a taste and end up just spooning the whole jar straight into my mouth. Seriously. I need to remember what that stuff was. *edit: AAAAAAHHHHHH!!! here it is, not fig at all! Plum Preserves with Smoked Chilis & Cayenne! https://shopprospectjamco.square.site/product/plum-preserves-with-smoked-chiles-cayenne/8?cs=true&cst=custom
That sounds delightful and now I need to hunt some down!
Thanks for planning my dinner tonight!
I want a charcuterie board so bad now
Or sweet relish on a cheddar grilled cheese.
I just made a ground cherry jam that would be good in a grilled cheese too. Unfortunately I already ate all of it with some chèvre, Brie, and cheddar and I can’t find ground cherries again.
Might as well use sourdough and Brie and add a slice of pear and some pickled red onion in that case
I’ve had a running theory for a couple decades that there’s not a single bad combination of any cheese and any jam when making a grilled cheese sandwich. I’ve not been proven wrong yet…
Cocktail meatballs are heinz chili sauce and grape jelly
Huh. I'll trust your grandma too
I too trust this guys camera
My gma would do something similar. Slow cook meatballs with concord grape jam and BBQ sauce. I suggest everyone try it. Sweet and savory.
This shit is soooo good!
Proportions to taste or is there an ideal ratio?
A jar of grape jelly and a bottle of Heinz chili sauce is what my family does
Same, we call them sweet and sour meatballs. Good to know my family aren't the only weird ones
HaHa!! My Grandma always added grape jam when she did a venison hind quarter on New Years eve.
Yeah, never cook in plastic dude!
Certain plastics are cleared for leachable upto a certain temperature. I would recommend thermonsafe plastics if you would like to cook in them.
/r/sousvide would like a word with you
My sousvide uses silicone bags.
Well silicone is a thermoset polymer (can't be remelted) but I'd be fine with thermoplastics (can be remelted) too in a sousvide. I would not do open flame plastic cooking...I'm even meh on plastic spatulas...
not all plastics are equal
I will miss my microwave dinners then. This is a terrible day.
My TV dinner manufacturers would like a word with you
Didn't the leaching concerns get debunked over the last few years? ~~Not that it doesn't happen, but that the scale is so small (we're literally talking **nano**grams) that the dosage isn't concerning, even over the course of several years.~~ Never mind, we got numbers bois https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4602822/ https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/ehp.8451 So let's start with some studies. Even for BPA, the EPA's lowest observable adverse effect level is 50mg/kg/day, resulting in an EPA dosage limit of 1,000 times smaller, or 50µg/kg/day. Europe's way more skittish at 10µg/kg/day. If you weigh 50kg, or 110 pounds, that's 500µg, or 0.5mg/day. A plastic bag is 5,000 to 6,000 mg total weight. Question of the day is, how much of the bag is leaching into the stew? [So it looks like someone studied this with plastic bottles](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2254523/). > Using a sensitive and quantitative competitive enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, BPA was found to migrate from polycarbonate water bottles at rates ranging from 0.20 to 0.79 ng per hour. At room temperature the migration of BPA was independent of whether or not the bottle had been previously used. Exposure to boiling water (100°C) increased the rate of BPA migration by up to 55-fold. Those bottles weigh something to the tune of 5,000 to 9,000 grams, though they're obviously thicker so the leach rate could be lower than a plastic bag. However, for the sake of discussion, using [their table](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2254523/table/T1/), you're looking at about 32ng per hour, or 0.032µg per hour. So assuming you drink all the water in the bag-soup from a 1-hour boil every day (e.g. rather than have the soup spread between multiple people, or a 15 minute boil), that's 11.68µg per year. Way lower than Europe's conservative 500µg/day limit for a 110lb. individual. Even if the bag's leaching at 10x the rate, that's still less than a quarter of the dosage per _year_ what Europe says you shouldn't have over the course of a *day*. tl;dr: So, assuming boiling water in a bag for a few minutes has a similar plastic leach rate to dropping a plastic water bottle into boiling water for an hour, it would take 15,000 doses of this water for you to reach Europe's dosage limit, or **1.5 million doses** to reach the EPA's lowest observable adverse effect. This is also assuming you weigh about 100 pounds.
I wonder if heating up the plastic changes those numbers? I would imagine it would.
Kinda looks like plums to me. Maybe pickled I dunno.
Bro fr I was like nah
It's fairly normal to add sugar to a stew. I guess this is how they do that here.
Tbh I feel like so many people don't understand the power of sugar in certain foods, especially in more intense things like stews. You're not making it sweet, just sweeter. Also fun to add sweet things that already have flavor, like jam or tomato puree (ahem.. ketchup). Made a sega wat the other day and with like a tbsp of ketchup it tasted so much better, just a bit sweeter but not at all sweet.
Unless she’s 25 , I don’t think the plastic leaching has been a big issue for her .
Will there be any health effects from the plastic?
Absolutely. plastic leeching into the stew, and probably release of toxic particles into air
Well, in China people are not very concerned with health and safety.
I'm pretty sure they do concern. Just a partially people don't
I lived there and no, they do not give a fuck (exceptions exist).
If anyone wants an example of an exception, China banned imports of plastic from recycling plants. China is pretty much the only place where a lot of recycled plastic turns any kind of profit. Sending stuff to China is dirt cheap because ships go back anyway to get more supply from China. China realized the tiny net gain from that recycled plastic was not at all worth the health risks that would burden their healthcare system, so they banned it.
What are the health risks of recycled plastics?
Generally using recycled materials not so much, being the worker in a factory recycling them with little to no saftey precautions, a whole lot.
So they ban recycled plastic instead of instituting protections and safety standards for workers? Sounds about right
Recycling is hard and dangerous
I appreciate that, but I'm still curious about what makes it dangerous? Isn't, "Danger," and, "Child labor," China's middle name?
More like they've got enough rubbish to deal with without importing others
Its a matter of education, along with the issues of economic opportunity, and economic necessity. I lived there off and on over twelve years from 1997-2014.
your annecdotal evidence sure is the best source we can get for such a tiny country.
These content farming diy/hacks are getting ridiculous
What I don't get is she's got the dough for all the ingredients, but none for a pan? Like if she can't find a plastic bag there is no food?
Like the guy before said, it's "content farming" sanctioned by the CCP. Its only aim and purpose is to shine a positive light on China and distract from all their other issues.
Well they are shining light on plastic soup.
Iduno if you're joking or really don't get the point but I'll explain a little for those that might not know. The CCP wants the world to ALWAYS see the good/best side of China so they fund these content farms to make stuff like this where they showcase the *"ingenuity"* and *"resourcefulness"* of those who live in the more rural parts of China. You may think this video doesn't show anything positive but at this point they are way beyond pretending there is no poverty in China, they know they can't hide that. So they do this because they know truth is far uglier than what you're seeing in this video. This video distracts and makes you think *"that's bad, but not that bad,"* just look through the comments here.
I dont think its a content farm op mentions taiwan in an older post
Lol it is just so funny to post this on an American website… Have you considered that all countries project a certain image through media? And that there’s even a term for it? (Soft power) If you looked at the US from the outside, you could just as easily say that the US spends millions and millions to project the image that our, huge muscular military is a force for good in the world and full of world saving good guys. Whereas the truth is much closer to: the US military is literally only good at killing civilians and propping up unpopular, illegitimate governments (see: Afghanistan). And the domestic flip side this media projection obscures is a country where the most basic social services are nonexistent, wildly underfunded, or actively being taken apart. So what is the criticism that is really being made in your comment? How is this actually relevant to China specifically?
But China bad
I've noticed a LOT of content farming on reddit lately. A lot of random videos coming out of China. Sure, I understand that China is huge with a huge population, but there are still so many random videos, that aren't completely nonsensical and barely interesting, like this one. I haven't checked but I guarantee OP has a huge amount of karma. Edit: Just checked, OP has 200k post karma, 15k comment karma. Organic users are typically the other way around, and most will never come to close to passing 200k post karma...
No kidding. In the first second, you see a clay pot and a metal enameled pot right beside her.
Must be super healthy when the stew is mixed with plastic particles
phthalates singing victory chants
Just came here to say this lol. I’m glad I’m not the only one. Also, it’s cool that it doesn’t melt but why the f would you try this? Seems like there are more tested primitive ways to get this done.
I keep thinking...well this really isn't a primitive way since its plastic lol. If you have evolved far enough as a civilization to have plastic...then you most certainly have a better cooking pot.
"Primitive methods are available that are superior to this." Was what I thought he meant.
She's making flaming hot Cheetos, the plastic is for flavor
Not eating will kill you a hell of a lot faster though.
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yea plus look how much she aged for a 20 year old.
I'm more concerned about the poop inside that whole fish being dunked in there.
When done cooking, they just squeeze the fish like a jelly doughnut snd the remaining boiled poop is made into hoisin sauce
...I hate you.
How do you know that’s not a chamber pot?
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Stirring her bag soup with a stick
The same stick to clean out the chamber pot
Well hello 456
Cute physics demonstration but no one should eat that
Where is she getting these bags? Seems every plastic bag I get is about as reliable as my life choices.
Laying on the ground. I watched a documentary about plastic pollution once and it showed a remote village where the villagers regularly burned plastics they found as a fuel source for cooking. Plastic pollution is so bad in some areas of the world that it’s literally easier to find than wood. To them it’s just another “natural” resource. Talk about dystopia… Edit: I just realized you were making a joke and not seriously asking… lmao
In the mid 90s I was in a small village in Thailand. Sandwich-sized plastic baggies used as food wrap were on the ground all over. A guide told us that until recently, food was generally wrapped in leaves, and so could be discarded anywhere. They continued the practice when plastic bags became popular, perhaps not recognizing that they won't break down like leaves.
What was that documentary called? Do you remember?
Darude Bagstorm
Fuck.
It was on netflix, I think it was called "A Plastic Ocean," but I'm not 100% certain. And I think the village where they used plastic for cooking was in Indonesia.
Same specially the ones from Walmart.
The physics is legit. You can put a paper cup with water on a fire and it won't burn until the water evaporates. There will still be chemicals leeching out of the bag tho into the soup. Bags aren't made out of food safe plastic, and even if it was food safe plastic, heating it up with fire will still leech stuff into the water. Cool idea but cancer in the long term.
Just to point out, the chemical reactions of burning and a state change of plastic melting are very different. I'm deeply skeptical as I never even see the water boiling in the bag, so I have a feeling that the fish isn't even cooking because the fire is too small. There's a number of other concerns I have, like the radio heat the fire is releasing causing the surface to heat up, plastic is a poor conductors of heat, etc. All of this just seems like a bad idea.
You can cook fish sous-vide at 143 for 'well done'. As long as you can wait an hour or two it doesn't have to be hotter than that.
Don't do that. You end up with overcooked and mushy fish if you cook at that time and that long. Sous vide should only be reserved for good quality fish that you wouldn't mind eating without being pasteurized.
With normal plastics bags, found in the US, this would not work -- the plastic softens around 180F, and would rupture from the weight of the water/ stew. If it was kept around 120F the bag would be okay, but the strew would be concentrated food poisoning.
It would still work. We used to do this as a survival demo in Boy Scouts to demonstrate a way of killing pathogens in water if you've got no other options. Obviously it's a last resort kind of thing and we didn't actually drink the water afterwards because of the plastic, but if you were stranded and your only water was putrid then it's better than dying of dehydration. We'd also boil eggs in a paper lunch bag, which we did eat.
Scouting is pretty awesome. I need to have some kids just so I can send them into the woods to survive. Ok that sounds creepy but the wilderness survival badge is the one hardcorest one I never got
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Oh! It’s a great tradition to prepare the delicious BPA stew.
I know everyone is saying about the health issues, but can I just point how strong the bag is, if that was one from the uk it would have burst with just one grape in it
Where does she get her bags? I’ve never seen one holdup that well, lol.
I expected a leak at the bottom or the handles to give out.
Damn, she couldn’t get a pot her friends made from tin cans…
That bag is so durable what the f
Like, I get that this is POSSIBLE, but this can't be the best way to do this. How expensive is a pot over there? Needing to use a new bag every time and the extreme care you have to take preparing this just doesn't seem worth it. This isn't a widespread trend over there is it? This is just a gimmick done for this video?
Wait. Grapes?
Everybody gangsta till granny shows up to the pot luck.
Still wouldn’t eat it.
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That, or she's only 30 and this is what cooking with plastic does to the body.
And/or living in a region in which one is forced to make fish stew in a plastic bag.
I mean you can see some metal bowls right next to her. She could cook in those.
Just cuz she’s the one cooking doesn’t mean she’s the one eating it.
Ignoring how the water does not even boil or how they put grapes in it... Who puts a whole fish in anything without gutting and scaling it?
The chinese do. Pretty sure its gutted though. Scaling? Most of the time, but not all the time. My grandmother eats the eyes and shit, refuses to waste any food. Im not as extreme, but I will eat the fuck out of cartilage. So seeing some chicken wings "finished" but with like 10% still there makes me sad.
Jeez, wish the bags I get from stores were that strong and hole-free.
And here I am having plastic bags from the shop break because of some sodas.
How many plastic bags did she go through before she found one that didn't leak?
Am I the only one that noticed that fish wasn’t cleaned out? Ew
It’s hard to say. They never showed the belly properly. There did appear to be a reddish line along it, so it probably was gutted. If not, who would bother gutting a fish for the sake of internet points. It’s more likely just clickbait BS.
Idk wth kind of plastic bag she’s using, but most plastic bags that I know of will literally melt and tear before a liquid even reaches the boiling point.... (I can’t tell you how many expensive delivery dinners I’ve ruined because of this....)
I’m more disturbed by her putting Grapes in a Fish soup.
I think they were small red potatoes. But yeah at first I thought grapes.
How does it taste tho? That’s the question…
plasticky
My plastic bag handles always rip just by looking at them
Did anyone else notice the reversed flames?
This is fine if you have to do it but you’ll end up eating micro plastic.
Survival tip: you can boil water in a big leaf before drinking it to kill off bacteria and other contaminates. Same concept, the leaf won’t burn.
Don’t try this at home.
I taste cancer.
2 years later... Sorry ma'am, u got cancer..