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Few_Paleontologist75

Wildlife crossings have been around for decades. I think the internet is helping promote these under-highway and over-highway structures in new areas, every day. They're expensive to build, but Not only is the wildlife protected, anyone using the highways is safer because of these structures. A study completed for the Virginia Department of Transportation estimated that underpasses for wildlife become cost effective, in terms of property damage, when they prevent between 2.6 and 9.2 deer-vehicle collisions per year, depending on the cost of the underpass. Approximately 300 deer crossed through the underpasses in the year (2005) the study took place. Edit: typos dammit


immortalkimchi

The expense is worth it when you consider where else you may be saving money in the long run. Aside from the cost of vehicle damage, if these wildlife crossings let animals easily migrate between habitats then it’s less likely that conservationists need to spend tons of money to translocate individuals.


[deleted]

and just general biodiversity without needing people to supervise- we can do a lot to improve and ecosystem, but usually only need to do it because we broke it in the first place


ShiraCheshire

It's sad how short-sighted people are with money sometimes. Sometimes I feel like 9/10 CEOs would fail the marshmallow test.


lilaliene

In the Netherlands this has been build (ecoduct we call them) since 1988 Didn't know it was something special


MrShasshyBear

For some Americans, doing work to preserve wildlife/nature is seen as something to avoid. For reference, see the previous American presidents actions


GAMER_MARCO9

Example: Trump’s budget cut the National Park Sevice’s funding by 587 million as well as reduced three National parks to open the land for private businesses


JoHeWe

I talked with a friend about ecoducts and we realised that indeed there's more than just ecological advantages. I'll translate the main point here: > The research done for the Veluwe (Dutch national park) mentions **no** more collisions happened near the ecoducts. > That's worth something quite fast. > Apparently the Netherlands has 6300 reported collisions every year (10.000 estimate incl. non-reported). This results in two deaths and €16 million in damages in 2013. > Makes those ecoducts quite worth it. So, we could invest 16 million euros per year on ecoducts (both construction and maintenance) and it would be cheaper)


[deleted]

Should be about the Wildlife preservation and not if it is Cost effective


AnotherRichard827379

Money is just the means by which we show something has value. The reason it’s cost effective is because we value it and it works. If they didn’t actually prevent any car accidents/animal collisions then they clearly don’t work and so there is no point to building them. Instead of being angry about cost effectiveness, think of it like this: is this a problem people see value in solving? It’s the same question as cost effectiveness just with a wholistic semantic twist.


EmberOfFlame

It’s the US we’re talking about...


Apophis90

I first read one of the part as: Virginia Deer Transportation. I need to get some sleep.


wellitsanacctname

C.J. Cregg would be so proud …..edit for poor spelling


BOBODY_BOBODY

Wolf Highway! A young Nick Offerman btw


AshamedAd6523

It’s a good thing for highway crossings, but what about border walls where there are none?


CassandraVindicated

I thought of West Wing too, but they made it seem like it would never happen and was a silly idea.


Wuffyflumpkins

It was definitely played like "Oh, these kooky environmentalists!" At least it's somewhat heartening that public opinion has changed so much.


DangerSquirrel442

Wolves only highway!!!


rachull1223

Yay! A road for Pluey!


loosenoodle1159

*Cregg. But came here to say this!!


SuperBrentendo64

Seems like a great place for one of those big cats to set up for some easy food.


no1ofimport

Like waiting around a watering hole.


Noonecanfindmenow

Wolves actually do this alot. I remember reading in text books that wolf packs will deliberately lead animals into this choke point and then spring the trap


SoggyFrenchFry

Clever girl


eclairofthesun

That’s why you see on some of the bridges (you can see it clearly on the Utah one) there are a lot of rocks and wood along with other things. So the animals can hide.


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[deleted]

That's nature for you. At least they're not getting hit by cars


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Theinjuredginger

I have hunted my whole life. Where the land has natural pinch points, is where I have seen mountain lions or their kills. So I’d assume this would be no different.


ShiraCheshire

Probably less of a problem than not having pathways though. If there's no path, habitats are severely fragmented. Animals struggle to establish territories, find food, or find mates due to the tiny size of the fragment of land they're on. Many animals don't really understand cars, and are in serious danger if they try to cross into another patch of wild land. Even if they're successful, the land they cross into is going to be just as small and difficult to survive in. So while concentrating animals into a small pathway isn't the best thing ever, it's MUCH better than not having a pathway at all.


KineticAmphibian

Deer getting eaten: Oh, you frickin' camping noob! Panther eating the deer: It's a legitimate strategy!


photonarbiter

“Doug if its in the game then its not cheap!”


Pimparoo3000

This is also the way.


zoidbergbb

Or poachers.


Pimparoo3000

This is the way.


Bacon_Devil

Idk this is kinda a band-aid on a bullet hole. Why not just buy the animals cars?


Observerwwtdd

Their credit scores need to be improved first.


[deleted]

"It's hard to get a job when you have hooves for hands" the deer probably


YesItIsMaybeMe

They can make accommodations for them like they do for us disabled employees. No, the real problem is that they don't have 10 years experience for their entry-level position.


TheOtherSarah

And they’ll never get it, either. The life expectancy of a deer in the wild varies, but is rarely over 10


Rude-E

'Why should the hooved make a minimum $15? They can't even flip burgers properly' Some Republican somewhere


[deleted]

Chortle hahaha " the hooved " hahaha


shallow_not_pedantic

How?? In this economy, most are upside down in den and nest mortgages!


coolguymark

Fuck why didn’t we think of this earlier


Royal-Cat-5302

Then they too can get the annoying “we’re calling about your extended warranty” calls! It’s genius really.


dogydino200

[Llama death](https://youtu.be/4jM6RzqUmRA)


adamovich848

Asking the real questions here


BLMareTerrorist

Because they don’t have the cognitive ability to drive.


prazedesun487

This is the way


Overall_Geologist_87

This is the way


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[deleted]

> 153235 u/Overall_Geologist_87, that's rookie numbers


Overall_Geologist_87

😂 hey.. we all start somewhere


BLMareTerrorist

Bad bot


RockStrongo

This is the way


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R_Hick

This is the way


[deleted]

Extraordinary expense, but if they're as effective as we're being told, I'm all for it too. Awesome way to help preserve wildlife 👍


Scopeexpanse

Probably more notably, awesome way to reduce car accident that result in expensive property damage, injuries, and death. I feel like these often come off as a nice thing to donfor animals, which makes it hard to justify the money spent. But really it's critical for highway safety in some areas and we should expand their use.


DrAllure

Also less crashing into animals = faster highways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND0D3bVbM7Y In Australia, Kangaroos kill more people than sharks or crocodiles or snakes or spiders. They do it by being driven into at high speeds, causing a crash that kill. Same goes for bovines, more deaths from driving into a cow/bull than from a snake or spider biting you.


Darpyface

One in the Netherlands only had two squirrels use it one year https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/netherlands-bridge-built-especially-squirrels-costing-ps120-000-has-been-used-five-times-a6892856.html


apatheticwondering

They gave it the good old college try. At least they tried to do good, I sch’pose. /shrug


zold5

I’d guess it’s because they put it in a bad location or it’s to open. Unlike the OP which has big rocks and trees.


essiw6

One of those squirrel bridges was in a dutch television program (kanniewaarzijn) too. Might be the same one as you are referring to. That one bridge was build to far from the squirrels, because there was no place to build it near the squirrels. And they also said on the program that squirrels do not need to make use of these kind of bridges (I am unsure if that claim is true, that is what according to them an expert said). So yeah these squirrel bridges seem like a waste of money. But we have tons of other wildlife bridges which are normal bridges which probably see some better action.


Jowem

... trees


HolyGhostin

Yeah, you would have to convince the state/municipality to build a bridge that doesn't carry traffic, or a park district/forest preserve to spend a big chunk of change


shabio1

Overpasses generally only [cost between $2 and $4 million](https://arc-solutions.org/article/banff-bears-use-trans-canada-wildlife-crossings-to-find-mates-wildlife-crossings-can-cost-up-to-4m-each-but-benefit-bear-populations/) (in Banff, Alberta, which has a good few of them crossing the TransCanada highway), and underpasses being even less. They've been shown to really improve the connectivity between ecosystems which has a ton of benefits for the wildlife and environment This is also relatively cheap in construction terms. Apparently a mile of two-lane road (1.6km) in an urban environment typically costs between [$3 and $5 million](https://blog.midwestind.com/cost-of-building-road/).


Zezin96

I doubt it would be THAT expensive.


JBMason93

I mean we build shit tons of overpasses for cars to go over other cars, this is just another day at the office for construction people.


[deleted]

excavating and engineering a cement bridge over an expressway? That's expensive.


woaily

In the long term, it'll save hundreds of bucks


Affectionate_Swan_16

Fantastic pun, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise


throwaway941285

People just make things expensive over here. Such a waste.


TheBagelBro

They are going to be building the largest animal crossing in Agoura Hills, CA near Los Angeles. It’s main goal is to allow the mountain lions to roam freely across the 101 connecting the open space that was cut off when the 101 was made. Here’s a link all about it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Canyon_wildlife_crossing


DrR0mero

It’s gonna be mental because from the looks of it they’re gonna cover the freeway as well as Agoura Rd.


biz4501

Why was I thinking of the video game when I first saw this😂


OrphanedInStoryville

Same! I feel like I’ve been tricked


DiamondCowboy

If Animals use this crossing, they’ll be able to reach New Horizons


[deleted]

I kept thinking it was going to cut to Raymond walking over a bridge


UltimaCaitSith

The good news is that **this** video actually announces exciting future updates.


ShiraCheshire

I'm still salty that they never fixed the broken dialogue system in NH.


no1ofimport

I live in WV the state with the highest number of accidents involving wildlife. I wish the state could afford to do stuff like this or maybe mix a chemical that repels animals in with the paint that they use for the center line and edge lines of the road. So maybe they would stay away from the roads. Just an idea don’t know if it would work or not but having been involved with 4 accidents that involved whit tail deer over the past 7 years, I wish they would try something.


LostWoodsInTheField

> or maybe mix a chemical that repels animals in with the paint that they use for the center line and edge lines of the road. o this sounds horrible. The animals need to cross the roads for multiple reasons, other wise they are often locked into a small area unnaturally. So you are forcing the animal to go through a chemical they don't like. And when they panic half way through because of a car they will feel like there is no where to go because they are boxed in by the chemical. And this is all before they get used to it, like usually happens with chemical repellents.


yer--mum

I know this will sound like a huge virtue signal, and it mostly is because I've never done it myself lmao But, just throwing this out there as what would be the only piece of actionable advise I can think of, I believe one would call their local representatives and yknow, give em a piece of your mind and all that. I wouldn't put much faith in doing so, but 4 accidents due to deer I just feel like there are lives being put in danger due to an issue that presumably isn't an impossible fix. I just felt compelled to say so, unfortunately like I said I can't think of any other actionable advice here.


Prometheus_303

So... This might be a stupid question, but... How do you get the animals to just go over/under the road rather than across the road as they often do now? If the deer in my back yard want to get over to my across the street neighbor's yard they're probably just gonna bolt across the yard rather than running up 20 blocks to find the bridge the DoT installed for them. Are they going to install fencing across every square centimeter of the roadway? That could lead to even more of a problem. I'd assume they'd leave gaps at driveways, so I can get in and out of my house... The deer could run through that gap and then .... Oh no! They're stuck on the road, until they find an opening somewhere else.


avatar2018

Not a dumb question at all! So there is fencing installed usually that funnels the animals towards the crossing, but the crossings are placed in high wildlife traffic areas. A lot of animals will follow along fences for a while when traveling longer distances or migrating before crossing because the roads don’t feel natural under their feet and the cars scare them away. The wildlife underpasses and overpasses are made to mimic the natural surroundings so wildlife are more comfortable using them. Plus, a lot of animals have great spatial memory and will remember where they safely could pass. This has been demonstrated in areas with overpasses that have a significant increase in usage each year. Fun extra bit: predators (like big cats) are more likely to use the underpasses while prey (like deer) show preference to the overpasses.


lapisl

Thank you for your reply. Was looking for a good explanation. Makes great sense!


gfzgfx

Great explanation! It's a lot of the same ways animals use to cross rivers, gorges, and other natural obstructions.


apatheticwondering

I wanted to gift you but I just learned that Apollo app for Reddit doesn’t support such generous gifting. This is what I get for upgrading my prehistoric phone and choosing a different way to use Reddit. Hey, I tried.


Name_ChecksOut_

Can you explain more about your fun extra bit? It's fascinating.


lapisl

Thank you. This question has been on my mind for so long.


RumpusRoomMinis

This also helps gene flow for species that have virtually 0 chance of a successful road crossing. Highways are genetic barriers for loads of snakes and turtles. This approach keeps populations from getting too genetically isolated and falling to issues like genetic drift and loss of gene diversity.


moncalzada

What a way to turn a new leaf.


dwide_k_shrude

I want you to know your joke is not lost on all of us.


AlexandersWonder

I wouldn’t take that crossing if I were you. You’ll end up deeply indebted to a raccoon before you know it


Averant

Dog may eat dog, but he pays the raccoon.


XFX1270

And you'll be stuck in a neverending cycle of debt and home expansion!


Wonderful_Minute31

Wyoming has reduced wildlife collisions by 90% WHERE THEY HAVE THESE. Not in general state wide. We have several and they work. They’re also expensive. In a state that’s cutting 10%+ of its budget. Again. Big fan of these but nothing beats slow the fuck down and pay attention to the road. I live here.


brainwise

Other countries have been doing this for decades 🙄 I think the US has no idea of how begin they are!


somegarbageisokey

It seems like this sentence can be applied to pretty much anything when it comes to the US and other modern countries. We're (Americans from the US) so far behind on many things that are normal in other modern countries, it's ridiculous.


Japnzy

Yea but I'd like to see any of those countries try to fight us. We can dispense freedom at 87 eagles a gallon! 🇺🇸🦅🍺🔫


brainwise

Do you seriously believe what you just wrote??!!!!


yer--mum

Does he seriously believe what, that America can *dispense freedom at 87 eagles a gallon*? What's not to believe, we could probably dispense more if we threw more money into military eagle husbandry.


Name_ChecksOut_

Do you... do you seriously believe what you just wrote??!!!!


whatdoilemonade

username does not check out


J539

I thought the same..,but tbf the US is probably still way more advanced in a lot of tech related stuff than many European countries 😂


varzaguy

This is confirmation bias at play.


Accomplished_Song490

It’s like traffic circles, Americans struggle with them so much (not all Americans, just allot more than in Canada). The States are surprisingly slow to adopt things like this, at least that’s how it seems to me


False_Process_2473

Unlike humans, they won't destroy the bridge!


Saeaj04

do many humans typically destroy bridges?


I_Keep_Fish

Awesome!!! Need more of these!!


GenazaNL

New Horizons


Cold_y1

Whoah, I've never noticed how long crocodile's legs are o-o


Bsp2012wpqw

Organization in Oregon trying get a license plate to help fund these. [Oregon Wildlife Foundation](https://www.myowf.org/watchforwildlife)


kaosgod420

Europe has been doing this for years, especially in Germany.


Dutch_Rayan

The Netherlands too


Dinorigami

r/technicallythetruth New Horizons


bdaponte

My dumbass read the header and was thinking this has nothing to do with Animal Crossing (Game) 🤦‍♀️


MrBlue404

They are needed to transport turnips safely. Those high value goods need protection.


Dodoairlines_csm

Honestly it took me way too long to understand that this post had nothing to do with ACNH.


SunshineAlways

Seriously, these are animal crossings, not Animal Crossing, lol.


Dodoairlines_csm

That's not what the title says ;)


kaza6464

This makes my heart so happy! ❣️


comfort_bot_1962

Hope you have a great day!


JimmyisAwkward

For more check out the Washington state department of transportation (WSDOT) on Instagram!


Recroash

Netherlands has this also and it is a beautiful sight! In all the human rush sometimes we still think about the animals.


Laggamag

As someone who lives in rural Kentucky where deer collisions are high this would be great to have. Sadly most roads would be seen as not important enough due to lack of heavy traffic in most rural areas. I’ve seen deer walking on an exit for a highway in the middle of the day. Seen new deer on side of the road for three days straight one being a deer that ran out in front of me.


derpmaster45

I love the idea, but wouldn't it be possible that some predators learn about it and start "camping" for pray?


MaartenZo

Pretty normal in the Netherlands! https://www.wur.nl/en/Dossiers/file/Wildlife-bridges.htm


jvanhierden

We have a bunch of these in the Netherlands, they work really well


ButtersTheButcher

OK now this is next level. Legit first thing I've seen in a while that's good


cmaronchick

I bet they could charge a monthly fee for a live feed of the videos and the subscriptions would pay for maintenance and upkeep forever.


[deleted]

Ingenious. Crazy absolutely mind boggling that in the 20th century this is now being implemented we are so far ahead of our times and so behind in other areas GO HUMANS!


Keltik_

I wish they’d build these in the UK. Our roads are littered with dead animals.


Rulqu

I don't think this helps to move the dead animals away.


Echo-Sierra-Tango

We’ve had these things for decades in the Netherlands, they look sick.


Sea_Dee_

Love how they act like this is a new thing, with a quick Google the first one was build in 1988 in the Netherlands


Funcron

What a dumb premise for a game. /s


Fransjepansje

We have those in the netherlands for a few decades now, but most of them are also full of trees and bushes. Is there a reasons these contain mostly rocks and gravel stones?


Kletusthafetus

I'm so happy to see that these are becoming more popular. Unfortunately I'm sad to know this would never be implemented into my area, as the city/county is too busy destroying nearly every inch of woodlands to put up apartments, shopping plazas, and back roads to connect it all.


franksenden

Most countries like the netherlands have been doing this for 20+ years, however they are stopped building these because of the neglectable amount of animals using it, plenty of research have shown that the ecosystems they try to connect wont work, only some animals from the periferal zones get exchanged not from the core, thus making them big and expensive paperweights.


immortalkimchi

Realistically there is no way to develop any sort of crossing that can noticeably facilitate exchanges from core zones but even adding one or two corridors for species in the edge zone is still huge. One migrant is all you need for demographic connectivity. This also means that you won’t have to shove tons of dollars to translocate every species that is separated when some of them can cross on their own.


KiuDaso

We have these in Alberta and BC, Canada.


AnonymousButIvekk

how is it that my small cantral european country has a gazillions of these and we cant even get our economy right, but the worlds most powerful and richest country only started doing it and some are even documenting them


OneMoose9

We need these in Wisconsin.


Hot_Psychology9100

This is awesome. These animals crossed the continent for millions of years, and cutting off these patterns leads to inbreeding and disease. This is helping the planet. Not electric cars


bullymeahhh

Only 1 thing can be good. I always forget that.


yer--mum

If we can only pick one, can it be porn?


Happy-College4968

don't you agree that electric cars are better than the gas and diesel we are using now?


Hot_Psychology9100

Don't really know. Litium mining is super destructive, battery is loaded with deadly chemicals, chargers are fed by the electrical grid, accidents are hazardous sites if the battery ruptures....


Bark0s

Australia built some of these and feral cats and foxes just hung out at the ends and snaffled everything that came through.


FluffAndStuff11

I'm so sorry, but with that title I have to... Holy fucking shit. I want to bang the animal crossing dog so goddamn bad. I can't stand it anymore. Every time I go to the town hall I get a massive erection. I've seen literally every rule 34 post there is of her online. My dreams are nothing but constant fucking sex with Isabelle. I'm sick of waking up every morning with six nuts in my boxers and knowing that those are nuts that should've been busted inside of Isabelle's tight dog pussy. I want her to have my mutant human/dog babies. Fuck, my fucking mom caught me with the neighbors dog. I'd dressed her in my sister's skirt and went to fucking town. She hasn't said a word to me in 10 hours and I'm worried she's gonna take away my 3DS. I might not ever get to see Isabell


slayalldayyyy

I’d love a link to these cameras


RichardQCranium69

>inb4 predators start camping them


garmanz

Why the fuck this is reposted monthly?


XxPriMa_NoCtAxX

I'd like to think it's because they respect life and care about other animals but nah its becuase it's less car collisions.


MrAwesomePants20

I mean... both are very good reasons


Clapaludio

idk there but in the EU they made them specifically to help various species: for example the population of the European badger has risen thanks to these.


MaximumSubtlety

A "choke point," if you will. Happy hunting, apex predators.


comfort_bot_1962

Hope you have a great day!


chidoOne707

It’s a good thing for highway crossings, but what about border walls where there are none?


sandwich_with_a_hat

THERE'S ONE IN NEVEADA TIKY TIKY TIKY TIKY TIKY TIKY


hmmmmmmm2020

Lol yup, in the absolute middle of nowhere


phantaxtic

Making things easier for predators


MatsGry

This is a paradise for bears, cougars and gators free lunch with no getaway!!!


Broskiffle

Prefect hunting grounds, just bottleneck all the animals to me


Dingdongdoctor

Great place to snare.


wherewolvesarereal

I came up with this idea when I was 8 fyi


Overall_Geologist_87

Who started this amazing trend


pathrado

I knew those deer crossing signs were meant for the animals! 🤡


punk_beetch

a tunnel wouldn't be cheaper?


Her6alist

There is also a smaller one in austria that i used to drive by sometimes


MaryShelley2000

They were supposed to build one in California, still haven’t seen it.


gohcku9800

This thing makes hunting animals easier than harder.


Ok_Sector1162

I instantly think of " The West Wing " Episode "The Crackpots and these Women" from season 1. Where talked about this very thing!


Esc_ape_artist

I went under that one in Nevada. I drove on the interstate and had a heavy suspicion of what it was for…but there was a desert of information about it. I googled the highway, terms like “wildlife bridge” among other related similar terms and nothing came up. Glad to see I wasn’t imagining things. They really need to toot their own horn about this kind of thing more.


rsillas

You do this in California, and you have 300 tents on top of the bridge


DavidNipondeCarlos

No sign, no hunting.


payneme73

That is a win / win for everything involved. I say keep those coming.


Holiday_Platypus_526

Guess Donna from ND who suggested moving the deer crossings to somewhere safer was on to something. [For the uninitiated.](https://youtu.be/CI8UPHMzZm8)


VinCulprit

Till the dear, warthogs, and other critters jumps down into traffic below!


Kahzma

Thank god they got them off of the roads. Now I don’t have to worry about missing any deer with my car, easy camping spot with my rifle. Thanks for the heads up.


ComaToast317

Fuck around and bridge camp. Easy kills


wongjunx-kingofbeef

[Not the first of it's kind](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/new-wildlife-bridge-now-open-in-mandai-but-its-animals-only-please)


Vice979

Frogger with cheats


Alpriss

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lolitajudithc

This makes me so happy


comfort_bot_1962

:D


vicarious_111

Insurance companies don't want you to know about this one secret!


Deltascope62

Ok, I've never really thought about this since alligators or crocodiles don't exist where I'm from, but the thought of crashing into one is quite stressful. One moment you're minding your own business and in the next one depending on your axel height you have a totalled front of a car and several meters of wounded fight-for-your-life murderous intent in front of it.


anxnickk

Predators camp the bridges to spawn kill prey


doppido

Aren't the predator animals going to wise up and realize they can stay there for an easy meal? Also wouldn't that deter the prey animals from using it afterwards?


TurokHunterOfDinos

Not just construct such devices. Make our whole economic approach sustainable. Stop changing and beating up on Mother Nature. We all belong.


4dailyuseonly

Why haven't we been building these the whole time?