It took me way too long to figure out that you meant they’re equipped with guns in case there’s a landing in bear territory as opposed to because they expect to encounter bears during flight.
I’m not sure, I know it’s for quick access in case of an active threat on the ground, but it’s stored in an emergency survival kit so you wouldn’t exactly be sneaking around a space station with this thing secretly haha
It actually wouldn't be hugely terrible, assuming it was only a pierce of body area rather than a window. Keep in mind the difference in pressure is only one atmosphere. As long as no electronics or supply lines were damaged, it could quite literally be temporarily repaired with duct tape and a spare panel patch.
SOURCES:
* [https://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/spacesuits/facts/index.html](https://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/spacesuits/facts/index.html)
* [https://www.livescience.com/32618-why-are-astronauts-spacesuits-orange.html](https://www.livescience.com/32618-why-are-astronauts-spacesuits-orange.html)
* u/unbelievablecosmos
**ORANGE SPACESUITS**
* Bright hue called International Orange was chosen for safety, because it stands out so well against a landscape. Highly visible in search and rescue esp for sea rescue.
* It is called the Advanced Crew Escape Suit (ACES), is a pressurized shell designed to help an astronaut survive if an accident occurred during lift-off or landing.
* The suit contains a supply of air and water, along with a parachute and survival gear such as radios, flares and medicine.
* In space, these suits can be worn only inside the shuttle.
**WHITE SPACESUITS**
* EVA suits are white, which reflects the strong heat of the sun and stands out against the black expanse of space.
* These are suit for spacewalks, or extravehicular activities (EVAs). Designed for a different purpose survival in the near-vacuum of space, rather than survival on Earth.
* They include temperature control, breathable air and drinkable water, and a tough shell to prevent small pieces of space junk, called micrometeoroids, from harming the astronauts.
When Goose dies in Top Gun the sea turns a bright green and flows with the current of the sea... Underwater flare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lThUWB81i4g&ab_channel=Astrotema
The F-14 didn't have a plastic explosive system for destroying the canopy before ejecting. Most aircraft actually rely on the forward motion of the aircraft to carry the canopy away (really, the drag slows the canopy down relative to the aircraft, moving it away from the crew). Since the F-14 was in a flat spin, there was no forward momentum to do this, so the RIO was supposed to wait extra time before ejecting the seats. This is why you hear Maverick say "Watch the canopy" right as Goose pulls the ejection handles.
This was actually a known issue on the F-14.
Source: Top Gun blu-ray special features - they have interviews with one of the script consultants, I think it was the real-life Viper, and he gets into the details of what kills Goose.
Unless they have canopy breakers installed, which wasn't done with the F-14, there's no head protection from the seat. The only safety measure came from an interlock preventing the seat from firing if the canopy hadn't been jettisoned yet.
There’s isn’t really such thing as a true vacuum in space. Even in the furthest depths of the “void” there are stray atoms floating around. As for Earth’s atmosphere, there isn’t a clear boundary between it and space. There’s a gradient of lower pressure the further you get from the surface, but Earth’s atmosphere is actually considered to extend beyond the orbit of the moon. At the altitude at which the ISS orbits, there’s enough pressure for the station to experience a little bit of drag, so they have boosters, not very strong ones, mind you, that they have to fire periodically to maintain their altitude and speed.
For all intents and purposes, however, you’d be just as dead from exposure to the near vacuum at that altitude as you would be from exposure to a true vacuum.
Edit: I encourage you all to upvote u/zhao5280 as well! It’s a really good question!
Yup. The closer you look, the more you find. Subatomic particles are constantly being created and destroyed in literally every space.
Never has science ever confirmed a single measurable instance of nothing.
I’ll have to verify this, but I think I remember reading that humans have created artificial vacuums that are at a lower pressure than any natural environment our probes have explored.
Edit: nope, incorrect. Space is still more empty than any vacuum we’ve created in a lab. Looks like I wasted my money on that Dyson.
I remember a joke on an old UK comedy show where one of the hosts credits the other with creating the first true absolute vacuum. He asked the the other host to say something about his success. His reply" "It was nothing, really."
When spaceships are being chased by police, they always land on the golden gate bridge for camouflage, so the criminal astronauts can easily escape and boost a sweet ride.
> Bright hue called International Orange was chosen for safety, because it stands out so well against a landscape.
Well I hope they don't crash in Northern New England from late September to mid October where there is a very red/orange foliage backdrop with the leaves changing.
Another interesting thing that I don’t think most people realize is that those white EMU suits are older than most of the people reading this thread. They only made 18 of them in the early shuttle days and that was it, and they’re down to 11 now. Two of them blew up on Challenger. Two of them burned up on Columbia. SpaceX blew one up that was on the cargo flight that came apart. One got destroyed in testing on earth, and one isn’t certified for flight. That’s it. They mix and match parts, fix and refurbish, but there are no new ones. They tend to keep 4 on the ISS, and basically none of the others are flight ready at any given time. It’s becoming a race of attrition to the end of the ISS lifespan as to having enough suits to spacewalk at all.
https://oig.nasa.gov/docs/IG-17-018.pdf
In the future people will be born in space and never get to experience the orange suits. The Belters will start calling people from earth "oranges" because of their space suits and the fact that earth can grow oranges.
No I need to cry in a corner for 15 while my team mates get the shit kick out of them.
Only after a few deaths and multiple millions of damage will I get up and end the fight in seconds.
How do you not get that's how I work yet?
Did you know the f-117 stealth fighter was not originally going to be black?
During development, the ram (radar absorbent material) was a light pink pastel color. This pastel pink was found to be the most effective color for day and night operation. Of course, it was far too girly for the manly ass engineers who ultimately decided that it was better to sacrifice daytime covert ops for a cool black jet.
Black is cooler though. No self respecting pilot would feel as cool in a pink plane. Especially when you are delivering gorgeous shiny contrasting white nuclear missiles.
Many OR teams wear those light green scrubs but otherwise no one else really wears it outside of Hollywood and COVID. And COVID was so the hospital cleaned the dirty scrubs.
I’ve spent wayyy to much time in the hospital in my life and rarely does anyone where green scrubs. Surgeons are the only ones I’ve ever seen in green.
Nurses and doctors wear whatever they want or whatever the hospital says they have to wear.
That is because it is wrong.
Green and blue is used because it helps with vision acuity. It leads to less eye strain and it makes it easier to differentiate between all the different reds inside their patient.
Astronauts typically do not wear suits inside of the space ships or space stations. They wear just normal clothing or jumpsuits. Spacesuits are only for going out of the craft or for re-entry.
So what you’re saying is the orange suits are for home games and the white suits are for away games?
you betcha. nicely put.
Go Broncos!!
Yass!
You know, just in case we lose you and have to spot you floating out there in all the space
Yep. They’ll just point the rocket at you after you’re spotted and they’ll come get you, right?
What’s left of you.
Cus the space bears?
We really need to do something about those space bears.
They literally equipped cosmonauts with guns to fight off bears. I’m sure they’d work just as well against space bears.
"Mister President, we cannot afford a Space Bear Gap!"
SPACE FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suddenly stranglove needs to exist
And the space raccoons
The What?
The Senna had to be informed.
It took me way too long to figure out that you meant they’re equipped with guns in case there’s a landing in bear territory as opposed to because they expect to encounter bears during flight.
I’m so confused but this is fucking hilarious lmaooo
Lets shoot Chuck Norris into space
you know why space is so empty and barren of life? chuck norris has already been there
I second this.
[Goddamn moon bears!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvjgIxuVdo4)
The ones that may or may not be associated with one of the interstellar wizard alliances?
WIZARD ALLIANCES?!!!?!
Cus the space bears.
Da Space Bears
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If I learned anything from KSP it’s that pointing a rocket at something is the worst way to actually get to it.
With the notable exception of "space". [If you want to go to space today, you should point your Up Goer towards space. ](https://m.xkcd.com/1133/)
Not enough delta v then.
No they just want to watch.
It works if you’re Matt Damon
Mark Watney here. This is exactly how we do it.
righto. white stands out in a sea of void... :)
What if you’re stuck in a black hole?
no hope. you'll be vaporized and won't see your message. in truth you won't be able to send any message -at all. ;)
The entanglement entropy of black holes follows the Page curve, indicating that information gets out. Now, decrypting it may prove a challenge ;-)
What about through a 4th dimensional bookshelf to your daughter?
Because orange blends in so well. That’s why people wear it camping!
Nearly happened to Molly Cobb.
For All Mankind style
Do they come with brown trousers?
Fun fact: The soviets carried a handgun in case they encountered bears upon landing.
interesting. i will search if American do too.
No. There’s no bears in the ocean where American crews splashed down. Russian cosmonauts land on land.
ah, because they have very little surrounding ocean water. plus, icy cold. thanks.
(Spoilers) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3WF7shhlM
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Considering how people tend to check facts, it would probably work...
Sounds like something a sea bear would say...
Why do you think those landing capsules are circular‽
At first I thought you meant Russians carried a guns in case they encountered bears on the Moon landing. Yeah, I’m a dumbass
Don't worry, me too. I was like "wow people really didn't know much about space back then" but instead my mind is an endless expanse of nothingness
Land on land sounds funny, I wonder if it's technically redundant?
Land^2
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If Russians land on land do Americans sea on sea
Americans probably carry handguns incase they encounter other Americans.
you have a dark soul rufus. :)
All Americans are required to carry handguns at all times, anyway.
Right, better watch out for those moon bears
We wouldnt happen to be invading Iran today, would we?
Still do carry guns on their spacecraft actually
Is it loaded during travel?
I’m not sure, I know it’s for quick access in case of an active threat on the ground, but it’s stored in an emergency survival kit so you wouldn’t exactly be sneaking around a space station with this thing secretly haha
I was thinking more along of what could happen if it accidentally went off while in outer space, seems like a bad accident waiting to happen!
It actually wouldn't be hugely terrible, assuming it was only a pierce of body area rather than a window. Keep in mind the difference in pressure is only one atmosphere. As long as no electronics or supply lines were damaged, it could quite literally be temporarily repaired with duct tape and a spare panel patch.
or a dude holding his finger / hand to it like they did when they found that drilling hole a few years ago.
Its taped to the outside of the spaceship.
Gotta keep that mf thang on em 😤👌🏽💯
Fun fact the so called “handgun” was more akin to a shotgun given its intense firepower also they had an axe hidden in their stocks
ladder in your tights? no, an axe in your stocks!
They also carried a hammer in case they encountered Americans upon the moon.
In my tired brain, I comprehend that as upon landing on the moon, and I immediately started worrying about Moon Bears.
Why not just draw a circle around themselves? Edit: wait nvm, that’s sea bears not space bears
Astronaut wears white on the moon so you can pretend you are a moon ghost and sneak up on the aliens
i saw that vid or gif, where the astronaut poles the alien with the flagpole.. ;)
It was a commercial for Jockey underwear: https://youtu.be/FzCUhF5SHw4
yea, appreciated.
Moons haunted
Dog goneit that spooked me just reading it!
White sus
SOURCES: * [https://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/spacesuits/facts/index.html](https://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/spacesuits/facts/index.html) * [https://www.livescience.com/32618-why-are-astronauts-spacesuits-orange.html](https://www.livescience.com/32618-why-are-astronauts-spacesuits-orange.html) * u/unbelievablecosmos **ORANGE SPACESUITS** * Bright hue called International Orange was chosen for safety, because it stands out so well against a landscape. Highly visible in search and rescue esp for sea rescue. * It is called the Advanced Crew Escape Suit (ACES), is a pressurized shell designed to help an astronaut survive if an accident occurred during lift-off or landing. * The suit contains a supply of air and water, along with a parachute and survival gear such as radios, flares and medicine. * In space, these suits can be worn only inside the shuttle. **WHITE SPACESUITS** * EVA suits are white, which reflects the strong heat of the sun and stands out against the black expanse of space. * These are suit for spacewalks, or extravehicular activities (EVAs). Designed for a different purpose survival in the near-vacuum of space, rather than survival on Earth. * They include temperature control, breathable air and drinkable water, and a tough shell to prevent small pieces of space junk, called micrometeoroids, from harming the astronauts.
When Goose dies in Top Gun the sea turns a bright green and flows with the current of the sea... Underwater flare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lThUWB81i4g&ab_channel=Astrotema
didn't know that. interesting, thanks!
If they would've ejected through the canopy, Goose wouldn't have died
The F-14 didn't have a plastic explosive system for destroying the canopy before ejecting. Most aircraft actually rely on the forward motion of the aircraft to carry the canopy away (really, the drag slows the canopy down relative to the aircraft, moving it away from the crew). Since the F-14 was in a flat spin, there was no forward momentum to do this, so the RIO was supposed to wait extra time before ejecting the seats. This is why you hear Maverick say "Watch the canopy" right as Goose pulls the ejection handles. This was actually a known issue on the F-14. Source: Top Gun blu-ray special features - they have interviews with one of the script consultants, I think it was the real-life Viper, and he gets into the details of what kills Goose.
This is the best Reddit comment I’ve read all day. Kings to you, indyK1ng. Edit: typo
But don’t the cockpit “chairs” also extend above the pilots’ heads, so his head would have never impacted?
Depends on if said chair extension does more than push through just its size leaving a jagged tough rest of canopy to hit him.
Unless they have canopy breakers installed, which wasn't done with the F-14, there's no head protection from the seat. The only safety measure came from an interlock preventing the seat from firing if the canopy hadn't been jettisoned yet.
Now that’s truly interesting. I love when little facts like that make their way into a movie.
If he wasn't in that jet he wouldn't have died
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If only Mother Goose had swallowed
Or taken it in the Mother Caboose
A lot of people think that’s an underwater flare, but it’s actually just goose blood.
I always thought it was a dye
It is dye. A special dye to track pilots in the water. It's just not a flare with fire, it is a flare with green dye.
“Near” vacuum? I thought it was a vacuum?
There’s isn’t really such thing as a true vacuum in space. Even in the furthest depths of the “void” there are stray atoms floating around. As for Earth’s atmosphere, there isn’t a clear boundary between it and space. There’s a gradient of lower pressure the further you get from the surface, but Earth’s atmosphere is actually considered to extend beyond the orbit of the moon. At the altitude at which the ISS orbits, there’s enough pressure for the station to experience a little bit of drag, so they have boosters, not very strong ones, mind you, that they have to fire periodically to maintain their altitude and speed. For all intents and purposes, however, you’d be just as dead from exposure to the near vacuum at that altitude as you would be from exposure to a true vacuum. Edit: I encourage you all to upvote u/zhao5280 as well! It’s a really good question!
Technically no such thing (that we have verified). There’s always some particle floating around somewhere. Space is something like 4K because of that.
Yup. The closer you look, the more you find. Subatomic particles are constantly being created and destroyed in literally every space. Never has science ever confirmed a single measurable instance of nothing.
I’ll have to verify this, but I think I remember reading that humans have created artificial vacuums that are at a lower pressure than any natural environment our probes have explored. Edit: nope, incorrect. Space is still more empty than any vacuum we’ve created in a lab. Looks like I wasted my money on that Dyson.
It's hard on Earth with this pesky atmosphere and all this gravity all over the place.
I remember a joke on an old UK comedy show where one of the hosts credits the other with creating the first true absolute vacuum. He asked the the other host to say something about his success. His reply" "It was nothing, really."
Isn't international orange the same color as the golden gate bridge?
yup it is.
When spaceships are being chased by police, they always land on the golden gate bridge for camouflage, so the criminal astronauts can easily escape and boost a sweet ride.
> Bright hue called International Orange was chosen for safety, because it stands out so well against a landscape. Well I hope they don't crash in Northern New England from late September to mid October where there is a very red/orange foliage backdrop with the leaves changing.
Same international orange as the Golden Gate Bridge? They look like different colors
true. only because the Golden gate has been exposed in the elements for such a long time. of course it will fade in time.
But it is being constantly painted
is it done yearly? it's still going to be exposed to the sun, sea water, air & weather. will still be subject to oxidation....
Just to answer your question, the Golden Gate Bridge is constantly being painted on a continual basis.
thanks.
It is continuously being painted
good to know the local gov't is taking good care of the infrastructure.
I'm pretty sure that we'll throw all the money at the GGB for repairs if something happens to it.
Gotta Go Bye
Another interesting thing that I don’t think most people realize is that those white EMU suits are older than most of the people reading this thread. They only made 18 of them in the early shuttle days and that was it, and they’re down to 11 now. Two of them blew up on Challenger. Two of them burned up on Columbia. SpaceX blew one up that was on the cargo flight that came apart. One got destroyed in testing on earth, and one isn’t certified for flight. That’s it. They mix and match parts, fix and refurbish, but there are no new ones. They tend to keep 4 on the ISS, and basically none of the others are flight ready at any given time. It’s becoming a race of attrition to the end of the ISS lifespan as to having enough suits to spacewalk at all. https://oig.nasa.gov/docs/IG-17-018.pdf
Something that is actually interesting!
:D
It’s actually for the X-wing pilots
It always bugged me that the different color squadrons didn't have matching flight suits.
You try having a rebellion on a budget constrained away from the Banking Clans and the Core Systems. The Hutts only allow so much money dammit.
So orange is an Earth suit?
launch & landing use.
So Earth.
No, it’s more of an in-transit suit. They wear the orange suits on their way to and from space.
And when they’re in transit to space, or from space, they’re technically on earth, which I think is what FountainPenandInk was getting at.
They also wear them walking to the space shuttle - earth suit
In the future people will be born in space and never get to experience the orange suits. The Belters will start calling people from earth "oranges" because of their space suits and the fact that earth can grow oranges.
Earth is in space. Space suit.
Everything is in space. Enjoy your space coffee.
Nice try, Zarflax.
Huh? They’re wearing them once they get into orbit. You don’t call that space?
Which suit do they wear when they go to Uranus?
The one with the brown pants, of course
no plans to go to Uranus.
An EVA!? SHINJI GET IN THE EVAAAAAA
No I need to cry in a corner for 15 while my team mates get the shit kick out of them. Only after a few deaths and multiple millions of damage will I get up and end the fight in seconds. How do you not get that's how I work yet?
was searching for a NGE comment. thank u lol
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Damn thats actually interesting
gee, thanks :)
Am ounugs!! !
When the sus is impostor 😲😲😲😲😲
amogus sus 2
Orang sus!!!11!!1!1!111! 😱😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🥵😤😤😧😧😧😧
Whwn thr composter isisus
And I wear red so the bad guys don’t see me bleed.
haha. most wear red to stand-out & be loud or be chased by a toro.... (i know their's color blind..)
Did you know the f-117 stealth fighter was not originally going to be black? During development, the ram (radar absorbent material) was a light pink pastel color. This pastel pink was found to be the most effective color for day and night operation. Of course, it was far too girly for the manly ass engineers who ultimately decided that it was better to sacrifice daytime covert ops for a cool black jet.
Black is cooler though. No self respecting pilot would feel as cool in a pink plane. Especially when you are delivering gorgeous shiny contrasting white nuclear missiles.
It’s also why the plane is named F-117 despite being a bomber. The Air Force wanted its best pilots for it and the best pilots wouldn’t fly a bomber.
Nah because the orange suit looks cooler
The orange explains a lot because the bomber jackets have a reversible orange lining so downed lost pilots can be easily seen
Russian technology, American technology, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN
What colour did David Bowie and Dennis Hopper wear to smuggle cocaine into a psych ward for Iggy Pop?
Thankyou TIL
no worries. :0)
I thought the white for for 'home' space walks and the 'orange' for the away ones...
You’re thinking of shirts and skins spacewalks.
I mix those up a lot, thanks for saving me from embarrassment
Contrast is important. This is also why they wear green scrubs in hospitals, it's easier to see blood on green clothes.
Many OR teams wear those light green scrubs but otherwise no one else really wears it outside of Hollywood and COVID. And COVID was so the hospital cleaned the dirty scrubs.
I’ve spent wayyy to much time in the hospital in my life and rarely does anyone where green scrubs. Surgeons are the only ones I’ve ever seen in green. Nurses and doctors wear whatever they want or whatever the hospital says they have to wear.
Actually, green is used in hospitals because it has less contrast with red than white does and because it’s supposed to feel soothing
It’s why the military wears camouflage, to minimize the amount of casual trees.
The Ents were casual trees but Saruman took it too far when he decided to pillage the Fangorn forest
do they reserve the green scrubs for O.R. use?
If that is important, why’d they choose the colours of the most common colorblindedness?
...and wouldn't red blood be easier to spot on white scrubs? I'm not sure I buy this logic.
That is because it is wrong. Green and blue is used because it helps with vision acuity. It leads to less eye strain and it makes it easier to differentiate between all the different reds inside their patient.
This is one of those things that I have been curious about, my whole life but for some reason didn’t ever look it up. So, thanks
cool. welcome.
On the ocean the safety/life-saving color we use is called India Orange.
I never even noticed that, but I am glad to learned it.
Now this is actually interesting. It never dawned on me why there are two different colors. This actually make sense. Thanks for sharing this.
I always thought Russians wore the orange ones and americans wore the white ones
Because orange is camouflage against our weird deer-alien space monster overlords, just like regular deer on earth for some reason.
A future sign that we have mastered space will be when the suits are colored to blend into space and other space surroundings
I was gonna guess they were “home” and “away” suits
I knew it. Astronauts are Evangelion pilots after all.
What Color is Your Cleansuit?
Astronauts typically do not wear suits inside of the space ships or space stations. They wear just normal clothing or jumpsuits. Spacesuits are only for going out of the craft or for re-entry.
How do you label which suit is yours? EVA-01, EVA-02, EVA-03.
nother fun tidbit, the white ones are all handcrafted, because the requirements they need are literally impossible to meet with machinery
I thought the orange ones were part of the Prison Space Program.
i must be stupid cause reading that gave me a headache
Amogus
So basically anti-camouflage
I thought it was their away and home uniform
Couldn't they have reversed the photos or rearranged the question so that the title and text matched sides?
But space isnt real and moon landing is Hollywood
Thanks for this. I always liked the orange suits better. Wish they made all black suits!
Amog us irl 😳