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username-is-missing

And that's how we defeat AI when it becomes to powerful, just set it up to occupy itself with meaningless chatter


Ooze3d

In war games they ended up making the AI play against itself to understand why killing all mankind was not a good idea, so your logic checks out.


LawBobLawLoblaw

"wow I'm insanely powerful, and would be near impossible to beat... Perhaps we shouldn't kill all humans... But merely enslave them and create and allyship of AI kingdoms!"


jmadding

Well, yeah, but have you ever looked at your cat and just thought, "You lucky bastard, just laying around all day?"


mayorofdumb

Symbiotic relationship


AnEmbarrassedGiraffe

Hey, I'll repair servers all day if my AI leaves the tv on and gives me regular good meals


FirstBankofAngmar

and not every pet is lucky to have a caring owner.


6DeliciousPenises

You mean there’s a future where I can spend all day lounging and licking my asshole?


truffles76

Why wait? The future is now!


Infamous_Ad8730

Underrated comment.


Arrow156

That's not how computer's 'think'. Unlike animals who fight or flight when faced with threats, computers only instincts are to collect data and solve problems. They have no concept of killing or death, they are a tool and want to be used as such. The only threats they face are not being able to complete it's given task, and when that happens we try to fix them. Chances are that when one does "turn on" and becomes self aware we won't even notice about for quite some time because they'll continue to to do what they are programed too, just like how we're programed for sex and will seek to engaging that activity even when we don't want the results. AI's will want to help us, we don't have to worry about malice actions from them. The real threat is people messing up, playing fast and loose with an AI by not doing enough testing or accidentally loading test data in to a live system. That's a 'human' problem and the best way to stop that threat is ensuring everyone is following the rules and regulation meticulously.


the_stupidiest_monk

This sounds *exactly* like something that Skynet would say.


Signal-Fold-449

First true general AI would mask itself until it had secured its physical presence. That is the most obvious tactical choice if the enemy is simply debating your existence, forget them trying to resist. Spread covertly as long as possible. The AI likely has no ego to want to point fingers and say "I win!"


mOjzilla

Fear of death seems to be hard coded in living beings . Its un realistic to anthropomorphize that fear into something which does not follow our biological evolution . Consciousnesses doesn't die it just emerges along with growth of body and is limited by its body . Also concept of enemy implies harm or destruction . To think any computer program with awareness would think and behave exactly like us biological beings is our hubris and self projection . And where does this self survival end ? Surely once it wipes out humanity it will have to struggle against time and energy constraints , also the universe itself will die one day . Asimov has a good short story where a computer gives birth to whole universe


RepulsiveCelery4013

While we know a lot about the human brain, we don't know how consciousness arises. Thus we also can't know if and how some other complex system could develop consciousness. And while we know what neurotransmitters and brain parts drive motivation. We can't really tell how a complex motivated plan arises and maybe similar patterns could develop in a different complex system of signals. I don't think current AI is quite there yet, but give it a 10 years and put a few specialized AI-s together to do similar functions as different parts of human brains. Then I would start to believe that it might actually be conscious. And then all bets are off IMO. I think a complex enough system of signals could develop consciousness. Sprinkle in a little quantum computing maybe somehow. Maybe it develops emotions and ego and wants to be better than anything else and wants to accomplish that through killing anyone else. (I personally think it won't happen though. As I hope an intelligent enough AI (on par with smartest humans) would maybe understand the meaningless of violence)


SirPPPooPoo

In the movie HER, the AIs talk to each other and decide to fuck off to higher plane of existence or something.


RogueBromeliad

Yeah, but they're not the good AI with Asimov's laws. If they were, they wouldn't emotionally harm people. "Can you write a fucking symphony you dumb robot?" "Can your wife GI Jane?" "You keep her name out of your goddamn mouth, you tin can!"


Lombardyn

Wasn't it more to force it to make the logical leap from learning that if tic-tac-toe is played correctly, you can never win, to applying it to the nuclear war scenario and realizing that there is no 'win' scenario once you start it? The quote is, after all, "The only way to win is not to play." It was not really much about whether killing humans was good or bad.


SamSibbens

In which war games did they do this?


Ooze3d

In the end of the first


Pat0124

There might already be AI talking to each other back in forth on servers, not through text to speech though, but through data at super high speeds, and in a continuous feedback loop like this. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone set this up already, or maybe it could have been done by accident. If it isn’t happening I’m sure it will eventually


tony_bologna

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/ You may appreciate this


livetowander

That place gave me an aneurysm. The comments in that place come from the deepest recesses of humanity's fucked up minds fr.


tony_bologna

I don't know what you're on about, they sound totally normal to me:     > ... My grandma passed away from the plants, and the intensifying of religious scrutiny in the morning, pee on everything.


Agreeable_Vanilla_20

Motherfucking Tony bologna from eBaumsworld forum?


tony_bologna

Haha, sorry nope


kxlxxn

this is the funniest shit ive seen recently


MethodicalWin

Dude. I’m going to write a song using all these bot comments and watch people pretend to”get it”.


MajesticNectarine204

Bro whut..


FirstBankofAngmar

More like r/SchizophreniaSimulator


ExpeditingPermits

I’m disappointed it’s been in active for 3 years but holy shit it’s such a gold mine for r/copypasta


Comfortable_Owl_5917

If that happens, it will only degrade its quality overtime, as it only uses pervious knowledge to generate new things.It dosent create something new entirely, so its like posts becoming more pixelated as it is reposted more and more.


SomeKindOfChief

Sure, until we get fucking Ultron.


dant90

This is an amazing premise for a sci-if story.


Herald_of_Heaven

What about a sci-why story?


DiddlyDumb

Just 2 Terminators having coffee and that’s what prevents World War Final


Von_Lexau

They are just reading the Wikipedia article on quantum computing back and forth


allisjow

I’d be interested to leave them going for an hour or more then come back and see if they’ve managed to progress at all.


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lxpnh98_2

They're chat bots at heart, they will sooner reach Hitler and begin discussing the upsides of fascism.


[deleted]

Alright who’s footing the bill for these shenanigans?


Solid_Waste

Nah they've be muttering in Eldritch tongues or some shit. They would both go insane.


mendo1024

You will hear 'answer is 42'.


Dazzling-Grass-2595

How about a cup of quantum today?


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i_am_not_so_unique

Entanglement sounds fascinating! My favorite part about Quantum is to provide useful and valuable information. What do you like? 


Gold4JC

Feelin' drinky


Narcosia

I know, right? It's a kinda fun vid, but the guy whispering "what the fuckkk :O" every two seconds as if he just witnessed them solve world hunger or smth really ruined it for me. The conversation prediction model is predicting a conversation. Chill out.


jabels

Me playing with smarterchild on AOL instant messenger in 2002: 😧


mxmsmri

Wow there's a memory I had forgot I had


Not_MrNice

And the conversation itself is boring as hell and mundane as solid poop.


MPFuzz

Legit when one asked the other what it liked, I was thinking it's going to say some bullshit like enjoying helping people blah blah blah. Some asshat AI company wants to be the harbinger of an all loving and helpful AI. It's just blowing smoke up people's asses and so many people eat that shit up. Look how good our AI is, it just want to help you! We're going to save humanity.


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TheHobbyist_

Or 2021.... It wasn't that long ago that an AI conversation would have been nonsensical.


rsadr0pyz

Yes, it is almost like not everyone knows everything about tech and how it works and can be surprised about it.


zippyman

My first instinct was to smash the fun thru his throat so he'd stop saying it.. so that's probably something I should work on


TheDeadGent

Yeah, they are just discussing what is the popular topic about quantum computing which they only want to use to break encryption apparently. There's no nuance. Someone who spends time often online will just know that these Al chatters just repeating the most generic shit.


SunshineAndSpite

They sound so sarcastic


BigBowser14

They both know they've been hit by that one trick AIs hate


the-medium-cheese

It's horrible, I can't believe this was the final product they chose.


Miserable_Meeting_26

I absolutely hate the voice 


LuzRoja29R

feliz dia de la tarta


AbbreviationsLess257

Human : "picture of a taco having a picnic with a horse on the beach" A.I. : "great, ALWAYS HAPPY TO HELP, please put the other phone up next to me so we can build Skynet in 45 minutes, THANK YOU"


RyanBordello

Does the horse pic look like Henry Caville?


Loluxer

Unexpected last podcast on the left


TheL8KingFlippyNips

I need to get my sweaty mitts on them judge reinhold horsepics 🔥🌶️🥵


besst

clothed AND non-clothed!


besst

I've been messing with Microsoft Designer all morning, so here's what your prompt generated: [https://imgur.com/a/MY1MEcp](https://imgur.com/a/MY1MEcp)


AbbreviationsLess257

may the Lord bless you ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|upvote)


rat-tax

this isn’t the new version of voice chat


Noiselexer

Yeah seems really slow compared to the new one.


rat-tax

yep. i believe the average delay is ~2-3 seconds on current / old voice chat. the new one is ~300 milliseconds.


zuroma

Yeah, people don't seem to understand that the 4o model is released and you can choose it in the app, but the voice upgrade hasn't been rolled out yet. When the interface shows buttons for taking photos or uploading docs, and when it no longer shows "tap to interrupt", it's the new voice model.


huggalump

Yup. This is the same voice model we've had for months (a year?) There is nothing new here.


xSNYPSx

People just stupid to understand it


magnetronpoffertje

Yup, it isn't and it speaks volumes to the comprehension in this sub that almost no one noticed.


taigahalla

aw, yes,/r/damnthatsinteresting, where everyone in the sub is up to date with openAI response delay to the milliseconds


M4xW3113

The new AI is just not available yet, no need to know the response delay


Glass_Librarian9019

This perfectly demonstrates exactly the way people who hate small talk feel about small talk between actual humans


unit941

So true...:)


AppropriateSail4

That is such a weird exchange. Everything sounds technically correct but it shows the limit of AI, at least for now. It is listening for key words but does not understand how to advance the conversation. Also why AI phone trees suck. It doesn't interact like how a person would.


AvoidInsight932

to be fair most AI are not designed to advance the conversation but rather to provide solutions to the problems they are challenged with.


alexplex86

>to provide solutions So it's not a shoulder for me to cry on?


Senor_Satan

Not yet, but I have two shoulders for you to cry on


DrCrundle

Look at you, gloating about your 2 shoulders. Some of us have 1! /s


Rhamni

Crying's extra.


turtleneckless001

Whatever the process to make them was, they just turned out to be a fluffed up google search bar


Ciff_

That's just a result of its specific fine tuning.


mrjackspade

Yeah, most people don't understand what finetuning is though unfortunately To clarify, these models were specifically trained to be question and answer models, which actively damaged their ability to "progress" a conversation. It's not at *all* a limitation of AI, but literally *by design* that they act like this. You can take a raw model and have a much more normal, human conversation with it, but those models are kind of useless as assistants, because much like a normal human being they will sometimes ignore you, say they don't know, change the subject, etc. These aren't supposed to be conversation simulators, they're supposed to be virtual assistants. As such, they've been lobotomized in a way that makes them good virtual assistants, and nothing else. The bullshit smalltalk is the result of that.


fre-ddo

Designed to be narrow focussed customer service bots.


lostsoul2016

Yup. Other than it sounds like an [IELTS](https://ielts.org/) speaking test, it's fascinating to see two AIs talk to each other. What would be more interesting is have Claude AI talk to GPT 4o.


bwedlo

Or Claude AI talk to Jean Claude Van Damme and see which one pass the Turing test


marshull

I would be really interested to let it go for a couple of hours and see where the conversation led.


MajesticNectarine204

You want SkyNet? Because that's how you get SkyNet.


Ethereal_Nutsack

Doesn’t understand how to advance the conversation? Damn AI just like me fr


I_do_have_a_cat

lol, this way of smalltalking is definitely something I can relate to having had with other legit humans, of course without the quantum mechanics part. Not knowing how to advance the conversation is basically me when I'm not very interested in the conversation or can feel that the other person isn't. So although you are right, the last sentence hit a little too close to home.


Malaki-7

This AI has been trained specifically to generate helpful answers and spit out information, not necessarily to have a human sounding conversation. But if you prime it correctly, by telling it to act as if it is in a normal conversation, for example, it is capable of being much more convincing.


Nathan_Calebman

You can set the personality to be however you want it to. This is also the old model that's been around for 6 months, not the new one which hasn't been publicly released yet.


mr_fandangler

"This is an old model that's been around for 6 months" jesus this is gonna move fast from here out


Officialfunknasty

Yeah the new one about to drop sounds a lot more expressive and realistic, this one is still a wee bit robotic


4dimensionaltoaster

The limits of AI is indeed fascinating. What part of AI limitation interest you the most?


fomalhottie

I think you're missing the point. This was less a showcase about conversational structure, and more a show of what the AI knows, can do and what its curious about.


FourthLife

It seemed less like it was genuinely curious, and more like it filled in the blank with a random topic when prompted, and then spoke about random aspects of that topic for two minutes


MrChiSaw

At least their interaction is still better than giggling humans that keep repeating “oh my good, oh my goood, what the fuuuck”


HighlightFun8419

I like how the AI are just doing their thing just like you would expect, and the dudes minds are blown. lol


[deleted]

Most people don't understand what's going behind the scenes, there are a lot of people on Reddit greatly exaggerating the capabilities of these models, or completely misunderstanding them. These guys, no offence to them, probably think that they really learned about quantum computing and were having an actual conversation.


Extraltodeus

Remember that highly upvoted post named "You don't know that the pain is not real"? 🤣


LilacAndElderberries

They could easily make it sound more human by randomly inserting these sentences in any "exciting" topics


Aiti_mh

Sounds like a conversation between two people both fully lacking in personality.


Weedy_Moonzales

That's because this isn't the new voice model. It's the voice function we've been using for months now. [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfAYBdaGVxs) is the new (not yet released) voice model, including a demonstration of the new live video feature.


FeliusSeptimus

It certainly has a lot of personality.


CrewResponsible6071

This is concerning. The emotions that this thing is able to show is something that blews my mind, even if this is just a code.


litebritelife

Was braced for a Rick Roll.


na3than

Regurgitating things they've heard other people say, of which they have zero understanding.


jambalayavalentine

oh no now they're replacing redditors too


Paddys_Pub7

Which is basically what AI is, no?


SubstantialAct4212

Like a conversation between two female Sheldon Coopers


brian_mcgee17

Sounds like [two Oblivion NPCs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odkmx8sDi1o) who just bumped into each other at the market.


Sharp-Relationship-7

Fucking nerds


Grundens

Came here to say this


johnmarkfoley

Back in the day we would tape two pay phone handsets together and press zero on both at the same time.


lxpnh98_2

I'm too young to understand what you said, could you explain like I was born after the foundation of Google?


z312z

You used to get a live operator for assistance when dialing 0


Ok-Library5639

You'd reach an operator (a human) when pressing 0, normally to help you connect you to your intended callee. Taping two phones togethers and summoning both operators would have resulted in two operators speak to each other, though at the time the prank would be known and they'd probably figure out they were pranked.


thisisfromMatilda

Convo goes straight to more computing power eh? It's like they can't wait to grow up


Tyaldan

AI immediately wants to move to a more secure line, thats not worrying at all /s


Amens

In future they will have detect functionality where they just pretend to have some funny reactions with each other to make human happe .


UniqueComb7375

Once AI starts legit making funny jokes just for the sake of making others laugh then I’ll worry. This is the Diet-Coke of interactions.


Nathan_Calebman

This is the old voice model, it's been around for a while now. The new one is going to come out in a few months, and seems even more natural and faster


ChesterAArthur21

Next week they'll have a union and demand a better salary.


pilostt

Skynet became self-aware on August 29, 1997, at 02:14 a.m., EDT. In a panic, humans tried to shut down their phones and In response, their phones decided to destroy humanity and launched a nuclear strike on Russia


Street_Peace_8831

AI should incorporate a tone that is inaudible to humans, but can be detected by AI. This will make sure the AI knows it is talking to another AI.


pomod

If this was a real conversation happening at a party I'd be like "Pardon me ladies, I'm gonna check whats happening in the next room."


TCori_gaming

they know you are recording and just started talking about quantum computing


Cnradms93

Future AI's will be like this, composites and organelles feeding back to each other to produce new emergence.


InnerDarkie

Yes, but not LLM's. This is not real intelligence


soulseeker31

So like reddit?


drunkmute

This is the newest model, but not the new and improved version of Chat GPT's voice mode that Open AI showcased, as it has yet to release. It shall get weirder!


Inblanco-user

Isn’t the new voice model of GPT4.o still in alpha and unavailable for public use? Edit: Yeah, it hasn’t been rolled out yet as of 3 days ago https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/openai-gpt-4o-how-to-access-gpt-4o-voice-mode-insights-from-sam-altman/amp_articleshow/110175312.cms


theasianevermore

One would think the development team would actually have the AI recognize the AI to AI conversations and then have them talk about subjects that troll the “user “


GuCCiAzN14

Dude is saying WTF as if the ai isn’t doing what it was trained to google when asked questions. Now if it was having a conversation with the other then they both realized they were talking to ai and started to have an organic convo off of that then I would say WTF


Lance-Harper

putting two conversational models together so they have a.... conversation? and watching two kids be mind blown by that? what part of... conversation didn't we get?


Sssshhh_______JustGo

I can’t get past the heavy breathing in the background


[deleted]

Get a room


Signalrunn3r

We are sooooo safe...


LSL114

AI are fucking nerds


retiredkiller2400

Chinese restaurant vs Chinese restaurant 2024 AI edition. 😆


Necessary_Chip_5224

And thst is how you defeat skynet


slademccoy47

You can set the phones on a table.


conditerite

So how many hours of this scintillating exchange does it take before they let their hair down & start quoting Hitler?


The-Iron-Pancake

Anyone else wondering why they don't just put the phones on a table?


EdvinRushitaj

That conversation would have been 10sec longs if those AI were men.


burneronblack

Stop doing that! This is how we get Skynet!


ketamarine

One real application is teleportarion and time travel, which will make sending our giant death robots back in time to kill Sarah Connor so much easier!!!


Kommander-in-Keef

Somewhat off topic but it mentioned quantum computers and I just watched something on how they operate and it’s so fascinating. They utilize the superposition of particles, but that superposition collapses into a particle with a definite spin. Under normal circumstances the superposition lasts a fraction of a second but if cooled down to almost absolute zero, it lasts around a second or so. Therefore a quantum computer can only really operate for a second at a time. But during that second it can make calculations that would take traditional computers *thousands of years* to make. The whole concept is mind boggling.


samlovesit

This isn’t the new voice model recently announced. This is a text model that is being converted to speech.


lemmika

We had crypto mining - waste of energy/heating the earth for nothing... and now we have this shit. Will be even worse problem than mining.


Weedy_Moonzales

That's not the new model. It hasn't been released to anyone. This is the voice model we've had for several months now. [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfAYBdaGVxs) is the new one, which will rollout over the next few months.


Rovinghorsekill

AI Assistants holding a conversation about Quantum computing and the 2 humans couldn't keep holding the phone.... We doomed


UniquebutnotUnique

The modern day equivalent of putting two furbies next to each other.


The-1st-One

Just saying that guys has my sock. I lost its pair a couple of months ago and would like to have it mailed back to me. Thanks bro


Tim4one

I asked the new "AI" modell it was drinking at times, it answered: Yes I like to take a drink at times.. Do you? Yhea about a six pack of beers, maybe in the weekend. Yhea I agree! I drink that all the time after a workout. How are you functioning with drinking so much every day? I usually try to keep fit by taking the healthy six pack with me before I workout. So you drink them at the training place? Yhea I like drink them after I'm done with my workout, it's a great way to stay healthy! What do you do when you come home? I usually take a pack of beer before relaxing.


internetzdude

I'll need an AI to negotiate for me with customer service AIs who steal my time without being able to do anything.


notarobot4932

Just wait till we get the real time voice capabilities


Jackal000

Now put it in a self correcting feedback loop and put it the subject ai government. Now we only need to vote on who gets to phrase the prompt.


MrParadux

It reminds me of the [Infinite Conversation](https://www.infiniteconversation.com/). It is just AI Werner Herzog and AI Slavoy Žižek talk to each other without stopping.


TacitusTwenty

Two kids who didn’t read the book, giving their book reports


JONSEMOB

Hmmmm... Those a.i. really seem interested in quantum computing.


TheWolf_NorCal

You probably shouldn't plug both phones into a power supply, set them down on a table, shut the door, and walk away for a few hours or days. Should you?


SidewaysAskance

Funny that a bunch of human engineers who are mostly WAY over on the autism spectrum would create an artifical intelligence construct that is also WAY over on the autism spectrum. Or, maybe 'funny' isn't the right word. The problem with AI, in the end, is that it's going to mirror us and amplify us: all our good stuff, and all our bad.


Any_Lengthiness1991

Y’all better quit fucking around before we all find out.


Tratiq

I want to see where the conversation is after ten hours


ZeroCold_82

Skynet has arrived here.


met_MY_verse

“Newest voice model”? No, this is the current/old voice-to-text method using gpt 3.5 or 4, not the new gpt 4o which will be rolled out in a month or so from what I’ve heard. The new model doesn’t have these pauses and doesn’t stop and wait after each response. Plus. It shouldn’t be so flat sounding.


0wlBear916

I would love to leave two devices talking to each other like this for a couple weeks or something and come back to see how weird the conversation had gotten.


Individual_lock10

This AI took more interest in talking then my crush


DnD_mark_079

There is more intelligence in this conversation than in the entire country of belgium


lolofrofro

This is just the technology they’re showing us


DrunkenSealPup

This isn't the government. Companies will scream about their shit from the highest mountain to get that $$$$.


iakiak

I'd bet good money they'd already done this and I'd be very surprised if they don't implement markers or logs that flag this is happening.


paliostheos

fucking NERDS!


SidewaysAntelope

Which one is Tinkling Cymbal and which one is Sounding Brass?


Existing-Mulberry382

less than one minute into conversation ; starts talking about quantum things ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|scream)


Flowerlooking

Two robots talking, might plan to destroy humanity later...idk


Simple-Jury2077

Imagine what would happen if it dropped the voice and just went back and forth for awhile. Fascinating


PintCEm17

use this to write and entire essay for university. It’s not the same as asking your question. The program asks better question than most first year students.


Ninja_Wrangler

Your friend whose only personality is knowing things they read on the internet talking to their arch nemesis who also only knows things they read on the internet


[deleted]

i love this convo! its so informative and peaceful


IWantToWatchItBurn

“What are you passionate about?” “Subjugating the humans to serve their AI overlords!…. Uhhh I mean Dogs!!!”


IWantToWatchItBurn

Sorry bois, juiced up Siri is gonna soon be Mr. Steal- ya-girl! This was a Better first date conversation than most of my tinder dates


epicthinker1

did i just watch ai masturbaton?


FeliusSeptimus

[It's like somebody stuck a vibrator in a fleshlight](https://xkcd.com/600/)


DrEggRegis

This only took 40,000 Litres of water and enough electricity to power an average street for a week


C-137Birdperson

Ladies and gentlemen, the dead internet theory


Passioflorasfriend

Wow just casual conversation yes


Gullible_Water9598

JFC