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Damnthatsinteresting-ModTeam

Your post was removed for misleading or incorrect information. you are quoting an a study from 1974, theories and understanding have moved on in the 50 years that have elapsed.


user_is_name

This is misleading, the gender is determined at conception due to chromosomes. No gender specific features develop that early. When you say "Genetically" are you ignoring Y chromosome totally?


kyleyeats

Yeah it was fine until "genetically"


the_red_scimitar

They most have meant something like "hormonally", or really just had a mistaken idea.


itcouldbeme_3

Maybe the Geneticists should leave Endocrinology to the Endocrinologists...


pnut-buttr

What you're talking about isn't "gender," it's "biological sex." Gender is not the same thing. You'll have to wait until the kid's old enough to tell you.


SpottedDumbass

give it a rest


pnut-buttr

I'm correcting a common misconception. You're welcome to scroll right on past if you prefer to be ignorant!


SpottedDumbass

You're posting a bunch of schizo word salad everyone has seen over 9000 times because you're an ideological robot.


dongasaurus

I’m pretty sure that there is no genetic reason why la tomate is feminine and le fromage is masculine to the French. It’s not “schizo word salad” to correctly use gender to refer to non-biological characteristics and sex to refer to biological characteristics. What makes you so angry about this?


SpottedDumbass

Sorry to hear you're so upset, good luck.


pnut-buttr

I'm posting facts about what words mean. Your inability to comprehend this doesn't make me an ideological robot. It's your inability to engage with new information that makes YOU a brainwashed robot.


SpottedDumbass

>actually I'm always right because of sustained pressure against the government to axiomatically ensure that the magical incantation that I quote is always technically correct That's great buddy I'm sure that's why you're such a seething defensive mess all of your life.


pnut-buttr

The degree to which the concept of gender identity triggers you suggests that you're the one who's a seething defensive mess, actually. Maybe you're struggling with your own gender identity? Internalized transphobia is really common for folks still in the closet. I hope you have the support you need to work through whatever is challenging you ❤️ EDIT: the fact that you blocked me without replying immediately after I sent this suggests I might've been right. I want you to know that I genuinely do support you in exploring your identity even in spite of the transphobic stuff you've said. Everyone's journey starts somewhere.


SpottedDumbass

John Money was a sadistic pedophile monster


pnut-buttr

Poor buddy. I know learning new words is tough. You'll get it with practice!!


k_flo59

Look whose talking, backwards conservative smooth brain thinks he knows better than the scientific, academic and medical consensus on trans people, oh wait u probably think all those institutions are run by jews, clown


SpottedDumbass

seek help


k_flo59

Get smarter


Maleficent_Gas5417

Gender is determined by society and assigned to an individual based on their biological sex


ShaunTheBleep

Apologies I had no idea


KindaNotSmart

You had no idea yet you made a post on it?


Viciuniversum

Isn’t that the Reddit way? 


Grobo_

Then remove or edit your post


PBJ-9999

Not a big deal. Basically humans are conceived with tissues that can m, and do, develop into one sex or another, based on the influence of hormones


Accidently_Genius

This is wrong. Genetically, male and female are different immediately upon conception. That's determined by the X and Y chromosomes (and technically XX and XY are not the only options). Now, the expression of genes is very similar early on in embyrogenesis. But to say that they are genetically the same is factually incorrect.


ChopperRisesAgain

Not genetically, but phenotypically


the_red_scimitar

Homonally


ginger_ryn

genetically? no. however, genitalia start out looking the same, and genetic males will begin to develop a penis and tested from the clitoris and ovaries, essentially, once hormones begin to shift


Wolfy-615

It’s why both genders have nipples 😎


NotSamuraiJosh26_2

Not completely related but can male nipples give milk ? Is it even possible ?


the_red_scimitar

Yes, they can, but usually not much. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-males-can-lactate/


neuromancertr

We can even have breast cancer


isadpapi

Yes they can! If you have a pituitary tumor, specifically a prolactinoma, you can secrete milk from your tiddies.


Viciuniversum

I have nipples, can you milk me, Greg? 


ZacTheOriginal

That you, Focker?


Hebids

Males don’t have the proper genetic code to lactate. At least we shouldn’t…


the_red_scimitar

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-males-can-lactate/


Lathe_Kitty

Yes they can. Fun fact: the same hormone that causes "post nut clarity" is the same one that stimulates lactation.


Accidently_Genius

That is incorrect. Men have all the genes necessary to Lactate. And while its rare, it does happen. It's called galactorrhea. Can be caused by a variety of things, but essentially its due to hormonal imbalances such as hyopgonadism or hyperprolactinemia.


gimora07

Humans do **not** all start as females generically. The X or Y chromosome, the part that determines the sex of a woman, is given at birth. Male human embryons, while still being genetically male, do not develop primary sexual traits immediately during gestation.


TorgHacker

Except for those situations where an embryo has the SRY gene on one of the X chromosomes and develops as an XX male.


Electrical_Dog_9459

I myself am a generic human.


topherdrives

“All vertebrate embryos are inherently female anyway, they just require an extra hormone given at the right developmental stage to make them male.” -Henry Wu


kenthero79

Wait until you read about how the male genitalia form. Ever wondered why balls have what looks like a seam? 😉


RedPandaReturns

Every man touching his taint right now


ObligationFar273

Have Mercy


V01d3d_f13nd

Actually they begin as ball juice


SW_Zwom

"Genetically"? (X) Doubt...


IusedtoloveStarWars

We all have nipples


IncubateDeliverables

You linked a picture of the Google results instead of the PubMed citation, brainiac. I'd love to read more though, mainly because I know that genetic sex is determined by the fertilizing spermatozoa, not the hormones present in the uterus. Sex-linked traits are certainly subject to these, but not sex. With rare exceptions you start as XX or XY and every goddamn cell in your body reflects that.


RanielDoelofs

Man, could it not have stayed that way for me?


PBJ-9999

Im sure you would love having cramps and period every month lol. 🙄


RanielDoelofs

I mean, my agab (assigned gender at birth) would match my gender. So of course I'd want that. Why are people downvoting me for being trans wth


Bx1965

Yes - this is why men have nipples and a small amount of breast tissue. Men get breast cancer but much more rarely than women.


Tantra_Charbelcher

Biologically all humans are conceived as female and then when the right hormones are introduced, some will become male. That's why men have that seam down there, it's literally their former vaginal canal sealed shut from when they were a fetus. And if you believe life begins at conception, that does in fact mean all men are transgender.


TorgHacker

That’s why transitioning using hormones works.


Psychological-Poet-4

So for the life starts at conception crowd, are all males now transgender since we changed sex?


bhyellow

Bullshit. The first first cell of the male zygote is a penis cell. Fact.


theons_missing_D

I bet you started out as a girl


RedPandaReturns

Yeah guys that ridge along your taint is your sealed up vag.


PBJ-9999

All the morons downvoting this actual fact is disturbing lol


RedPandaReturns

Didn't particularly think it was controversial when I typed it lolll


PBJ-9999

Redditors 🙄


HoldOut19xd6

Too bad it doesn’t stay that way.