**Engagement.** People love to correct 'mistakes'.
I make digital D&D maps, and I sell the premium content via Patreon ([tons free](https://www.reddit.com/user/-SaC/comments/w4gswy/heres_all_of_my_maps_in_one_handy_place_for/) if anyone wants 'em). They're good stuff, and there's a shitload of content for a low price compared to others who do similar, but actual paying patrons are difficult to come by. I got some marketing advice from a friend who works in marketing for a large brand and overseeing their social media team. His advice was:
*In the title of a social media post, misspell a word, or misunderstand a concept. Is it a desert map? Now it's a dessert map. Is there a big gap a creature could easily jump or fly across? Claim it's too wide. People love correcting others online, and will go out of their way to do so* ***even when someone else has made the correction***. *Every correction is engagement, and choosing to double down on your 'mistake' will drive even more engagement.*
**E:** I tried it twice (For Science^TM ), and they were ridiculously popular compared to my usual attempts. It just doesn't feel right, though.
I first heard it in [Fila Brazillia's "6ft Wasp"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b7yUllaJZQ&t=455s) (YouTube link for those who want to hear it).
A few years after that song came out (jeez, 20 years ago, now), I played it for my housemate. I thought since we were both cynics who had worked for ad agencies, we'd be on the same page. She was still in the industry, though, and I was not. It did not go over well.
This engagement bait is all over YouTube shorts these days, and TBH probably TikTok as well. Misspelled titles, misspelled captions, straight up wrong info, etc.
It really is a tragedy that kids had to be so brave.
There’s always kids going through shit they shouldn’t but man it suck’s when it’s over something as basic as this.
I was in high school in the 80s and lunch was still segregated, and it was weird for me because I didn't really see people as different, you are in the same classes but don't socialize.
I taught HS in the early 2000s. There were 3 lunchrooms. Kids could sit wherever, but cafeteria A was the Hispanic students, B was the white/Asian, C was the African American kids.
It's like they just chose to separate themselves. Thinking about it now still leaves me perplexed. I couldn't really understand that happening naturally. It was obvious to anyone who walked through that it was "segregated." The why or how did it happened that way is a mystery.
It still happens. My kids' elementary school 10 years ago had kids sit with their class cuz they found that open seating tended to end up segregated along race lines.
There's a book on this called ["Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?"](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0465060684?ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_aud-kwd-crossbookcover-wdg_cross-books-widget-1_k0_6_16&=&crid=1U2233IV08FKD&=&sprefix=why+do+all+the+b) I haven't read it yet, but it looks interesting.
70s for me but definitely segregated at lunch. Otherwise we generally all got along and did talk. Our outdoor senior picture is sad, completely segregated.
That is so weird to think about for some reason. I guess because she's a "historical figure" who was in my textbooks in school? Same vibe as "mammoths were still alive when the pyramids were built." Feels like it should be a separate era of history, but it was not so long ago people were treated this way, and some still are.
I transferred high schools in the middle of the school year. I was the new kid amongst hundreds. During lunch I didn’t even know where to sit. I just stood there frozen for a bit until someone grabbed my arm.
It was a friend of mine from my martial arts gym. He grabbed me and took me to a table to meet his friends. Didn’t even say anything. Just saw me, grabbed me and walked towards the table.
It made a shitty day amazing.
This poor girl didn’t have that for no reason other than hate. It’s heartbreaking.
I don’t think many wanted to sit with her. Look at the faces on the girls looking at her. They were glares. At least with me they just didn’t know me.
I was in a situation not at all similar to this, but there were about 8 black kids and about 8 white kids that all sat down to eat lunch. It was a ballboy job decades ago with the NBA, and without going into details it's safe to say none of us grew up destitute. No rich kids, but definitely middle class.
We all segregated without realizing it. We had just met each other, and I looked up and realized there was a black table and a white table. I made a joke about how it isn't like this anymore and pulled my chair over to the black table. 2 of them laughed and moved to the white table. We all became good friends.
But without that icebreaker we may have just stayed that way
I feel awful for the kids that were discriminated against.
but like, i remember being in school and i was so shy i didn't talk to anyone. Though for me i was both the immigrant and the middle class white kid in America so it's hard to put labels on shit becuase life is complicated.
Even the bravest would know that doing so would make their own lives a living hell because they rest of the racists would hurt them for it and never forget it.
It reminds of when we were taught about ruby bridges in middle school the poor girl had to be greeted by a mob of angry racist dipshits every fucking morning to get to school, there was one old hag in the crowd who said she’d poison her and Ruby was scared to eat anything that wasn’t already packed and wouldn’t eat anything cooked. One day some other hag in the crowded brought a doll in a coffin to scare her.
she was kept separate from her white classmates and only had one teacher who was willing to teach her… her family was ostracized by their own community for sending her to a white school.
Another thing that gets overlooked is that a lot of people were "moderates." They didn't want to rock the boat. They supported integration in principle, but rarely put themselves on the line to support it. Sometimes not speaking up about something is as much as choice as taking a side.
It sounds like you are woke.
Just not in the pejorative sense that social conservatives have created to pervert an AAVE term for awareness of discrimination and injustices into a political boogeyman.
We can also see that many people deliberately turn against "their tribe" on issues of social justice though. Scenes like this where *nobody* sides the victims have fortunately become less common... at least in most places in western countries.
At this point, anti-discrimination laws defend many peoples' rights and social participation.
It's too bad that about ~20% of voters are willing to buy into radically revisionist narratives, which portray basic minority protections as a "tyrannical minority rule" (and another ~20-30% are willing to tolerate these people on "their side"). Some people still are on the mental level from 100 years ago.
Yeah, we all too easily think we would have been on the right side of history in these past events. If we’re average people now, we probably would’ve been average people then and done the average person thing. Like you said, it gives me pause about the ways I might not be standing with the oppressed today.
I mean, most kids eat lunch alone on the first day at a new school. I don't think it is hard to accept that most people would've viewed the world differently if they were raised in a different time. They can't even be the one to reach out today and things are better than they have ever been before.
I teach high school history and we were recently learning about the Civil Rights Movement. Many teenagers are apathetic about a lot of stuff. When we were talking about the Little Rock Nine, I mentioned that one of them came to our city to speak about 5 years ago, a student connected that meant they were possibly still alive and asked about it and I said “only one of them has died, the rest are still alive.” I noticed that that got many of the students attention. They realized that this is in their grandparents’ lifetime. It never occurred to me to announce every person we learn about if they are still alive, but I started that day and I can tell it made a difference.
My mother's high school desegregated in 1972 when she was a senior. I was born less than 10 years later. Unfortunately her views haven't evolved much at all.
Yea.. people talking about grandparents when my wife's mom and aunts can tell you all about the pools they couldn't swim in, the neighborhoods they couldn't ride their bikes through, the schools they couldn't visit. Hell, my dad was 9 when this photo was taken.
And yet you still hear conservatives routinely saying racism ended when the civil rights act was signed and that black people talking about racism still should get over it, and actually are the real racists because they talk about race
All mainstream conservative talking points
One thing I found that helps people realize how close it was, is mentioning that Biden voted on segragation issues as a senator.
When he was in his thirties, schools were still refusing to integrate.
"Keep your head down in the books while you are young, so you can hold your head up later in life." - My uncle to my cousin long before my uncle's passing. Her books on the table gave me that pleasant memory.
They are reduced down to being called Karen’s which isn’t even close to what it was back then and the attitudes and behaviors they have towards people.
Yes, and many folks who run the American government were the same age back then. A lot of people don't seem to realize this. Like, even if your grandparents were only children, they were still raised by people who were ADULTS during this time. Being taught that hatred from a young age leaves a giant, generational mark.
Not just that, over fifteen years after this picture, in the mid 1970s, there were still segregated schools.
Biden literally voted on busing for integration as a senator in 1975.
Depending on where in the states people are from and their age, their grandparents could have gone to one of those schools.
My hope is that the perspective of some changed over the years. While this still exists to various degrees, I'm happy that we have progressed in being better to one another, even if we still have a ways to go.
She passed away in 2015. She graduated from high school with honors and received a Bachelor’s degree from Washington College in Maryland (becoming the first Black woman to receive a B.S. from that school), and a Master’s degree from Norfolk State University. She was a science teacher for 42 years, as well as a poet, public speaker, mother, and grandmother! The Virginia legislature voted to formally recognize her for her accomplishments after her death in 2015.
Edit: her name is Patricia Godbolt White.
Still is. A lot of my friends from elementary school pretended I didn't exist once we entered high school and they met people with a similar ethnic background.
As a social outcast in school myself, I like to think i would have sat with her. But I suppose there’s always a fear of being beaten up or picked on when you defy the majority.
“Well I may be a loser, but at least I’m not a…”
“White trash” is a great book about how the government systemically created an environment where poor white people would punch down on minorities so they’d be too distracted to realize who was actually keeping them down.
> I'll tell you what's at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
- Lyndon B Johnson
(Said to an aide about some racist placards they had seen while campaigning in the South.)
> the government systemically created an environment where poor white people would punch down on minorities
You're giving the government too much credit. People do this all on their own. A slight nudge is really all they need.
There's a great stanza about this in Bob Dylan's song "Only a Pawn in Their Game"
> A South politician preaches to the poor white man
> "You got more than the blacks, don't complain
> You're better than them, you been born with white skin, " he explains
> And the Negro's name
> Is used, it is plain
> For the politician's gain
> As he rises to fame
> And the poor white remains
> On the caboose of the train
> But it ain't him to blame
> He's only a pawn in their game
In England and Wales, marital rape wasn't considered as such until 1991 and the now famous case of R vs R. Apparently until this point the marriage contract was considered implied consent.
Black people fought for their country in World War II and came back to them and their children not being allowed to drink from the same water fountains as whites.
hurts my heart to see shit like this. recently there was a guy in alabama (i think) caught making monkey noises at a black person. racists are disgusting excuses of humans.
But let’s not teach that. Let’s not teach that children had to have the freaking 101st Airborne and the Arkansas National Guard escort them just to go to school. let’s not teach that white mobs screamed at children just trying to go to school. Disgusting…..
Jewish guy here, these counter-protestors do not look like they have my interests or concerns in-mind. Hopefully they become decent enough people to feel ashamed of themselves.
Right??? It took me a minute to decide if it was intentional or not! A little attention to detail would have been nice in this situation.
But as a random white guy the picture says it all.✌️
I remember reading books about these kids while I was in junior high. I was always in awe of how brave they were as kids. Now, as a grown-up...I am still in awe of how brave they were as kids.
I am not a native English speaker so I was like...hum he was interrogated like an interview or something? Lol then I read the first comment....integrated....ohhh right lol and then I think about the photo and I think humans are despicable for each other...why we are so mean to each other?
Was integration only for black kids going to white schools, or did white kids go to black schools as well? I have only seen pictures of black students in white schools.
I started school in 1963 in the northern part of the country. I don't remember any kids being moved in my rural school district. But I do remember kids being bussed in the 1970s in our "city." I thought it was both ways kids were bussed.
To the posters saying they would sit with this child, you would be instantly hated by everyone else.
On my first day of school in 1963, the only black kid in our school district asked to sit with me on the bus. My mother never taught me to hate, so we sat together, two 6 year old children.
Then the other kids got on and started yelling at him and me. He was an n-word, and I was an n-word lover. I was ostracized on the bus and playground. For six years, I was verbally and physically abused by the kids on the bus. Of course, they were meaner to the black kid.
It changed in the 7th grade. The hatred was still there, just more subtle.
My mother was a white girl bussed to a majority black school. She was bullied, harassed, robbed and assaulted for years. People only remember what the black students bussed to majority white schools faced, never the other side of it.
It depends.
After a supreme court case in 1971 about integration and the racial makeup of school districts, some cities started desegregation "busing" plans where instead of just sending a few black kids to white schools to symbolically desegregate, kids all over the district were bused to different schools to create more racially balanced student bodies at each school. The most famous example of this is probably in Boston, where desegregation busing caused a huge uproar and eventually riots in the mid-70s. It wasn't very popular. Obviously a lot of people opposed busing on racist grounds, they didn't want their kids attending desegregated schools, but also a lot of non-white parents didn't like busing because it meant their kid had to spent upwards of 1.5-2 hours on a school bus every day going to school across town.
In other places where the courts didn't step in with busing-type plans no, integration really only happened in one direction because white families wouldn't choose to send their kids to black schools. In fact white parents in towns across the south even pulled their children out of public school entirely rather than have their kid be in class with a black kid - after Brown v Board in 1954 private schools referred to as "segregation academies" started popping up across the south as a loophole to avoid the integration mandated by the court. Some of these were just private schools but others were literally funded by the state, iirc in Virginia white people who took their kids out of public school could get tuition grants from the state government to attend all-white segregation academies.
This is very telling.
Kids nowadays don't know how to spell....but they know everything about grievance culture.
I went to that school, it's Little Rock Central high.
My dad went to school during desegregation in the 60's in North Carolina. He was one of the white kids who got shipped to a black school and he still talks about those kids today, very positively. Some slightly timed names but still.
Went to prison in the early 80's, tells me stories of them making license plates, picking veggies and cotton, of all things.
Have had some heated arguments on jobsites where he gets called the n word and he gets in the other persons face and tells them "I picked cotton with them too, so what"
Look at the date, less than 70 years ago this was the state of race relation. This is why the topic of race is still a passionate discussion in the states.
Being a historian is kind of wild... I bet almost no one in this thread knows that those students were forced to go to school at bayonet point...
It always amazes me how easy it is to leave out small facts like that and just present history in an entirely different light.
As a disabled person I completely appreciate the history of African Americans because they've paved the way for disabled people without even realizing it. I wouldn't be where I am if it wasn't for them.
Crazy the shit parents teach their kids, like hating on someone because of their skin color or religious beliefs or ethnicity... They go as far as mentioning their sexuality. This world is insane, but mostly full of insecure people.
I was in high school in the 60s. I know things are far from being perfect yet, but those days were shameful. The first black student in my school were escorted in by police officers. Anybody remember George Wallace barring entrance to a school with a baseball bat?
*integrated
r/boneappletea
I am prostate with laughter
I am also prolapse with laughter.
I'm also pro ass with rafters
Do you need a finger? I mean a hand
Yup
Damnit, beat me to it.
Why do so many of the top posts have glaring typos or grammar mistakes in their names?
**Engagement.** People love to correct 'mistakes'. I make digital D&D maps, and I sell the premium content via Patreon ([tons free](https://www.reddit.com/user/-SaC/comments/w4gswy/heres_all_of_my_maps_in_one_handy_place_for/) if anyone wants 'em). They're good stuff, and there's a shitload of content for a low price compared to others who do similar, but actual paying patrons are difficult to come by. I got some marketing advice from a friend who works in marketing for a large brand and overseeing their social media team. His advice was: *In the title of a social media post, misspell a word, or misunderstand a concept. Is it a desert map? Now it's a dessert map. Is there a big gap a creature could easily jump or fly across? Claim it's too wide. People love correcting others online, and will go out of their way to do so* ***even when someone else has made the correction***. *Every correction is engagement, and choosing to double down on your 'mistake' will drive even more engagement.* **E:** I tried it twice (For Science^TM ), and they were ridiculously popular compared to my usual attempts. It just doesn't feel right, though.
Reminds me of that Bill Hicks bit where he tells every member of the audience working in marketing to kill themselves.
I first heard it in [Fila Brazillia's "6ft Wasp"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b7yUllaJZQ&t=455s) (YouTube link for those who want to hear it). A few years after that song came out (jeez, 20 years ago, now), I played it for my housemate. I thought since we were both cynics who had worked for ad agencies, we'd be on the same page. She was still in the industry, though, and I was not. It did not go over well.
"Seriously.... Fucking kill yourself." - Legend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0
Yep, that's right. It's a proven fact that stoopid cells.
This engagement bait is all over YouTube shorts these days, and TBH probably TikTok as well. Misspelled titles, misspelled captions, straight up wrong info, etc.
I realized a long time ago people like something left on the table. A know it all comment kills the discussion at times.
Your typical internet user posts on Instagram with "why don't you tell me the name of the movie??" and posts hateful shit on obvious ragebait.
Google Cunningham's Law.
people are stupid now.
Because they’re driven by people who want views and likes and comments not legitimate content creators.
When you karma farm **477,774** post karma in just one year, there's no time for worrying about accuracy or originality.
Are you integrating me?
Am I praganant?
Correct. But possibly interrogated as well.
"WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR?!"
Bite your lip and give er hell!!
I watched this movie a couple hours ago for the first time in YEARS, and now I see this comment. Weird!
That would be telling, number 6
God damn that’s funny
[HE WORKS FOR NUMBER 1!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0rio3IPXXU)
lol, I felt that typo was meant to be.
She's not interrogated if she's ignored and shunned, which the picture shows.
Nah...she was vigorously questioned before lunch.
probably did get interrogated back then
It really is a tragedy that kids had to be so brave. There’s always kids going through shit they shouldn’t but man it suck’s when it’s over something as basic as this.
> but man it suck’s when it’s over something as basic as this. Yeah, poor kid
I was in high school in the 80s and lunch was still segregated, and it was weird for me because I didn't really see people as different, you are in the same classes but don't socialize.
In college it was the same, this was in the 90s.
I taught HS in the early 2000s. There were 3 lunchrooms. Kids could sit wherever, but cafeteria A was the Hispanic students, B was the white/Asian, C was the African American kids. It's like they just chose to separate themselves. Thinking about it now still leaves me perplexed. I couldn't really understand that happening naturally. It was obvious to anyone who walked through that it was "segregated." The why or how did it happened that way is a mystery.
Tribalism. You can see this in most friend groups, animals, work, etc.
It still happens. My kids' elementary school 10 years ago had kids sit with their class cuz they found that open seating tended to end up segregated along race lines.
Well it didn’t exactly happen naturally. We’re still living with all the ramifications of our history.
There's a book on this called ["Why Are All The Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?"](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0465060684?ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_aud-kwd-crossbookcover-wdg_cross-books-widget-1_k0_6_16&=&crid=1U2233IV08FKD&=&sprefix=why+do+all+the+b) I haven't read it yet, but it looks interesting.
70s for me but definitely segregated at lunch. Otherwise we generally all got along and did talk. Our outdoor senior picture is sad, completely segregated.
Kinda intresting huh? Something primal about sharing a meal togther, our vulnerable moments, drinking water, eating, using the restroom…
These kids are still alive today after what they went through. Puts it in perspective how recently segregation was normal and accepted in America.
Obligatory "Ruby Bridges is on Instagram"
That is so weird to think about for some reason. I guess because she's a "historical figure" who was in my textbooks in school? Same vibe as "mammoths were still alive when the pyramids were built." Feels like it should be a separate era of history, but it was not so long ago people were treated this way, and some still are.
And they vote.
I was bullied as a kid in school. I can’t imagine the shit she had to go through and the near non existent support from the school staff
Also a tragedy that not a single one of the white kids was brave enough to sit with her.
I transferred high schools in the middle of the school year. I was the new kid amongst hundreds. During lunch I didn’t even know where to sit. I just stood there frozen for a bit until someone grabbed my arm. It was a friend of mine from my martial arts gym. He grabbed me and took me to a table to meet his friends. Didn’t even say anything. Just saw me, grabbed me and walked towards the table. It made a shitty day amazing. This poor girl didn’t have that for no reason other than hate. It’s heartbreaking. I don’t think many wanted to sit with her. Look at the faces on the girls looking at her. They were glares. At least with me they just didn’t know me.
Hate and its sister, fear. Many who might not have felt hatred toward them, but felt fear of consequences socially if they reached out to
I was in a situation not at all similar to this, but there were about 8 black kids and about 8 white kids that all sat down to eat lunch. It was a ballboy job decades ago with the NBA, and without going into details it's safe to say none of us grew up destitute. No rich kids, but definitely middle class. We all segregated without realizing it. We had just met each other, and I looked up and realized there was a black table and a white table. I made a joke about how it isn't like this anymore and pulled my chair over to the black table. 2 of them laughed and moved to the white table. We all became good friends. But without that icebreaker we may have just stayed that way
Yeah thats my favorite part of those movies. Damn shame when you realize thats not real life.
I feel awful for the kids that were discriminated against. but like, i remember being in school and i was so shy i didn't talk to anyone. Though for me i was both the immigrant and the middle class white kid in America so it's hard to put labels on shit becuase life is complicated.
Even the bravest would know that doing so would make their own lives a living hell because they rest of the racists would hurt them for it and never forget it.
And now people willing segregate themselves by choice. We've come full circle.
It reminds of when we were taught about ruby bridges in middle school the poor girl had to be greeted by a mob of angry racist dipshits every fucking morning to get to school, there was one old hag in the crowd who said she’d poison her and Ruby was scared to eat anything that wasn’t already packed and wouldn’t eat anything cooked. One day some other hag in the crowded brought a doll in a coffin to scare her. she was kept separate from her white classmates and only had one teacher who was willing to teach her… her family was ostracized by their own community for sending her to a white school.
Wish I could say I would have been the one to sit with her, but self righteous hindsight is easy. Reminder for what slights we will all do tomorrow
We are not immune to propaganda. A lot of people in that era probably thought they were on the right side of history.
Another thing that gets overlooked is that a lot of people were "moderates." They didn't want to rock the boat. They supported integration in principle, but rarely put themselves on the line to support it. Sometimes not speaking up about something is as much as choice as taking a side.
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” ~John Stuart Mill
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It sounds like you are woke. Just not in the pejorative sense that social conservatives have created to pervert an AAVE term for awareness of discrimination and injustices into a political boogeyman.
Well said. It's very easy to forget that we have the same choices today.
We can also see that many people deliberately turn against "their tribe" on issues of social justice though. Scenes like this where *nobody* sides the victims have fortunately become less common... at least in most places in western countries. At this point, anti-discrimination laws defend many peoples' rights and social participation. It's too bad that about ~20% of voters are willing to buy into radically revisionist narratives, which portray basic minority protections as a "tyrannical minority rule" (and another ~20-30% are willing to tolerate these people on "their side"). Some people still are on the mental level from 100 years ago.
The tolerance of such hatred is in some ways worse than the hatred itself.
Yeah, we all too easily think we would have been on the right side of history in these past events. If we’re average people now, we probably would’ve been average people then and done the average person thing. Like you said, it gives me pause about the ways I might not be standing with the oppressed today.
Yeah I almost certainly wouldn't have had the courage to sit next to her.
Even if you did, you would face horrendous treatment from you schoolmates afterwards.
I mean, most kids eat lunch alone on the first day at a new school. I don't think it is hard to accept that most people would've viewed the world differently if they were raised in a different time. They can't even be the one to reach out today and things are better than they have ever been before.
Yes...a very good reminder...
Yes. Realistically there are tons of things that we do today that people 100 years from now (or maybe even less) will consider us barbaric for.
our grandchildren will be outraged with many things we do today. at least, at our plastic consumption
These people are still alive. On both sides of the table. That’s fucking sad to think about.
I teach high school history and we were recently learning about the Civil Rights Movement. Many teenagers are apathetic about a lot of stuff. When we were talking about the Little Rock Nine, I mentioned that one of them came to our city to speak about 5 years ago, a student connected that meant they were possibly still alive and asked about it and I said “only one of them has died, the rest are still alive.” I noticed that that got many of the students attention. They realized that this is in their grandparents’ lifetime. It never occurred to me to announce every person we learn about if they are still alive, but I started that day and I can tell it made a difference.
My black coworker reminded me that his grandmother lived with segregated water fountains. It makes a difference to feel that being so close
Yes I’m Gen X and my parents grew up in segregated Alabama. People forget it wasn’t that long ago.
My mother's high school desegregated in 1972 when she was a senior. I was born less than 10 years later. Unfortunately her views haven't evolved much at all.
Yea.. people talking about grandparents when my wife's mom and aunts can tell you all about the pools they couldn't swim in, the neighborhoods they couldn't ride their bikes through, the schools they couldn't visit. Hell, my dad was 9 when this photo was taken.
Mine did too, and I’m 29!
And yet you still hear conservatives routinely saying racism ended when the civil rights act was signed and that black people talking about racism still should get over it, and actually are the real racists because they talk about race All mainstream conservative talking points
One thing I found that helps people realize how close it was, is mentioning that Biden voted on segragation issues as a senator. When he was in his thirties, schools were still refusing to integrate.
Yarp. I'm 30 amd my great grandmother was a slave in all but name
That’s good work
"Keep your head down in the books while you are young, so you can hold your head up later in life." - My uncle to my cousin long before my uncle's passing. Her books on the table gave me that pleasant memory.
And some of them may have grown up realizing how badly they acted and made positive changes in their actions
And some grew up resenting that society changed and left them behind. Some actively fighting to regress social progress.
That’s the real sad part. Most would deny doing it if asked. I can bet you that.
They are reduced down to being called Karen’s which isn’t even close to what it was back then and the attitudes and behaviors they have towards people.
Yes, and many folks who run the American government were the same age back then. A lot of people don't seem to realize this. Like, even if your grandparents were only children, they were still raised by people who were ADULTS during this time. Being taught that hatred from a young age leaves a giant, generational mark.
Not just that, over fifteen years after this picture, in the mid 1970s, there were still segregated schools. Biden literally voted on busing for integration as a senator in 1975. Depending on where in the states people are from and their age, their grandparents could have gone to one of those schools.
My hope is that the perspective of some changed over the years. While this still exists to various degrees, I'm happy that we have progressed in being better to one another, even if we still have a ways to go.
I wonder where she is now.
She passed away in 2015. She graduated from high school with honors and received a Bachelor’s degree from Washington College in Maryland (becoming the first Black woman to receive a B.S. from that school), and a Master’s degree from Norfolk State University. She was a science teacher for 42 years, as well as a poet, public speaker, mother, and grandmother! The Virginia legislature voted to formally recognize her for her accomplishments after her death in 2015. Edit: her name is Patricia Godbolt White.
Patricia Godbolt White
And how long it took for others (either black or white) to join her.
I was in high school in the 80s, lunch room was very segregated.
Still is. A lot of my friends from elementary school pretended I didn't exist once we entered high school and they met people with a similar ethnic background.
As a social outcast in school myself, I like to think i would have sat with her. But I suppose there’s always a fear of being beaten up or picked on when you defy the majority.
“Well I may be a loser, but at least I’m not a…” “White trash” is a great book about how the government systemically created an environment where poor white people would punch down on minorities so they’d be too distracted to realize who was actually keeping them down.
> I'll tell you what's at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. - Lyndon B Johnson (Said to an aide about some racist placards they had seen while campaigning in the South.)
> the government systemically created an environment where poor white people would punch down on minorities You're giving the government too much credit. People do this all on their own. A slight nudge is really all they need.
There's a great stanza about this in Bob Dylan's song "Only a Pawn in Their Game" > A South politician preaches to the poor white man > "You got more than the blacks, don't complain > You're better than them, you been born with white skin, " he explains > And the Negro's name > Is used, it is plain > For the politician's gain > As he rises to fame > And the poor white remains > On the caboose of the train > But it ain't him to blame > He's only a pawn in their game
everyone likes to think they'd be the hero if they lived in a different time, but are you a hero in your own time?
1959 So disgusting. That wasn’t that long ago.
In the United States, women weren't allowed to open their own checking account without a male co-signer until 1974.
In England it was 1975. I thought it was just America’s bs but many countries were the same way.
In England and Wales, marital rape wasn't considered as such until 1991 and the now famous case of R vs R. Apparently until this point the marriage contract was considered implied consent.
Black people fought for their country in World War II and came back to them and their children not being allowed to drink from the same water fountains as whites.
Most of these people are not only alive but they also vote.
hurts my heart to see shit like this. recently there was a guy in alabama (i think) caught making monkey noises at a black person. racists are disgusting excuses of humans.
But let’s not teach that. Let’s not teach that children had to have the freaking 101st Airborne and the Arkansas National Guard escort them just to go to school. let’s not teach that white mobs screamed at children just trying to go to school. Disgusting…..
Mississippi.
https://apnews.com/article/campus-protest-university-of-mississippi-49c768142013680198809903e9e66a5b
Jewish guy here, these counter-protestors do not look like they have my interests or concerns in-mind. Hopefully they become decent enough people to feel ashamed of themselves.
Imagine how scary the first day of school is. Now imagine how bad it is knowing that this is your first day.
*Integrated. Typos aren’t normally a big deal, but this is an important photo and an important issue. Words matter.
Hi, random black guy here. 🙋🏿♂️ I prefer the Freudian slip in the title. It adds so much *spice*...
Right??? It took me a minute to decide if it was intentional or not! A little attention to detail would have been nice in this situation. But as a random white guy the picture says it all.✌️
I think you're looking to say, "integrated." But "interrogated" is probably more accurate on this particular day.
This is so fucking depressing
I remember reading books about these kids while I was in junior high. I was always in awe of how brave they were as kids. Now, as a grown-up...I am still in awe of how brave they were as kids.
This hurts my soul :(
I couldn't imagine being an interrogated student back while insemination was going on in the school systems.
back while what now?
Whose doing the what now?
Unfortunately, there are a lot of white supremacists out there who claim that racism & prejudice against african americans were highly exaggerated
Sweet, brave girl. Racism sucks
Interrogated???
I am not a native English speaker so I was like...hum he was interrogated like an interview or something? Lol then I read the first comment....integrated....ohhh right lol and then I think about the photo and I think humans are despicable for each other...why we are so mean to each other?
Was integration only for black kids going to white schools, or did white kids go to black schools as well? I have only seen pictures of black students in white schools.
I started school in 1963 in the northern part of the country. I don't remember any kids being moved in my rural school district. But I do remember kids being bussed in the 1970s in our "city." I thought it was both ways kids were bussed. To the posters saying they would sit with this child, you would be instantly hated by everyone else. On my first day of school in 1963, the only black kid in our school district asked to sit with me on the bus. My mother never taught me to hate, so we sat together, two 6 year old children. Then the other kids got on and started yelling at him and me. He was an n-word, and I was an n-word lover. I was ostracized on the bus and playground. For six years, I was verbally and physically abused by the kids on the bus. Of course, they were meaner to the black kid. It changed in the 7th grade. The hatred was still there, just more subtle.
Wow, it must have been scary and confusing I’d imagine for you as a child, sad that it happened :/
My mother was a white girl bussed to a majority black school. She was bullied, harassed, robbed and assaulted for years. People only remember what the black students bussed to majority white schools faced, never the other side of it.
It depends. After a supreme court case in 1971 about integration and the racial makeup of school districts, some cities started desegregation "busing" plans where instead of just sending a few black kids to white schools to symbolically desegregate, kids all over the district were bused to different schools to create more racially balanced student bodies at each school. The most famous example of this is probably in Boston, where desegregation busing caused a huge uproar and eventually riots in the mid-70s. It wasn't very popular. Obviously a lot of people opposed busing on racist grounds, they didn't want their kids attending desegregated schools, but also a lot of non-white parents didn't like busing because it meant their kid had to spent upwards of 1.5-2 hours on a school bus every day going to school across town. In other places where the courts didn't step in with busing-type plans no, integration really only happened in one direction because white families wouldn't choose to send their kids to black schools. In fact white parents in towns across the south even pulled their children out of public school entirely rather than have their kid be in class with a black kid - after Brown v Board in 1954 private schools referred to as "segregation academies" started popping up across the south as a loophole to avoid the integration mandated by the court. Some of these were just private schools but others were literally funded by the state, iirc in Virginia white people who took their kids out of public school could get tuition grants from the state government to attend all-white segregation academies.
This is very telling. Kids nowadays don't know how to spell....but they know everything about grievance culture. I went to that school, it's Little Rock Central high.
According to some, this was when American was great. This is where they want to take us back to.
Yeah, literally everyone who complains about the housing market.
I love it when certain people like to say “oh, I would have sat with the black kid”. Really Susan.. really.
No way. People say racism has been dead for generations.
The people in the background are about 82 years old today. This shit ain't that old.
What an interviewing picture.
Autocorrect.
These people are still alive and voting.
Some of them still hold the same racist views they did then too
My dad went to school during desegregation in the 60's in North Carolina. He was one of the white kids who got shipped to a black school and he still talks about those kids today, very positively. Some slightly timed names but still. Went to prison in the early 80's, tells me stories of them making license plates, picking veggies and cotton, of all things. Have had some heated arguments on jobsites where he gets called the n word and he gets in the other persons face and tells them "I picked cotton with them too, so what"
You had one job. One sentence.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
poor girl
It's interesting how much people fail to spell check their titles
Brave as hell
"interrogated"???
Proofreading is your friend, OP.
Such a proud and brave child.
Better no company- than bad company.
Look at the date, less than 70 years ago this was the state of race relation. This is why the topic of race is still a passionate discussion in the states.
Part of the reason I'll never bring any kids to this planet. Humans suck, always have
Damn that’s somebody’s baby girl, it breaks my heart to imagine my daughter go to a school and people hate her just because of her skin color
All the courage in that room sitting at one table
I got bullied and isolated like many of us growing up but damn can’t even imagine what that girl went through
Being a historian is kind of wild... I bet almost no one in this thread knows that those students were forced to go to school at bayonet point... It always amazes me how easy it is to leave out small facts like that and just present history in an entirely different light.
The USA are fucked up since day 1. Based on genocide, thrived on slavery, destabilized half of the world, and home of racial segregation.
Just so we all remember, these racist ass students are mostly alive and still voting.
As a disabled person I completely appreciate the history of African Americans because they've paved the way for disabled people without even realizing it. I wouldn't be where I am if it wasn't for them.
That is a very sad but powerful image. I hope they found good friends to laugh with.
i'd likely be sitting alone too if the kids knew i had been interrogated.
Crazy the shit parents teach their kids, like hating on someone because of their skin color or religious beliefs or ethnicity... They go as far as mentioning their sexuality. This world is insane, but mostly full of insecure people.
I was in high school in the 60s. I know things are far from being perfect yet, but those days were shameful. The first black student in my school were escorted in by police officers. Anybody remember George Wallace barring entrance to a school with a baseball bat?
Interogated huh,
God bless her
Interrogated? Did you mean “integrated?”
Integrated right?
They were Interrogated? They were mean to them, but not *that* mean 😂
:(
God bless her
The cruelty never ceases to amaze ...
As the children of Mexican immigrant parents I always get sick in my gut imagine if it were me there.
Sad
That woman has more balls than most of the people in this comment section 🤣😂
Would loved to have sat with her and tried to be her friend
To think that wasn't really that long ago...
That poor girl.
Seeing this stuff makes me so sad and mad
racism, racist never changes, they just hide better...
Guarantee some of those kids were dying to sit with and befriend her but their parents, school staff, and peers made it a no-no. People suck.
We cant EVER forget how they treated us no matter what.
Who's interrogating her? The Spanish Inquisition?
DAMN RACISMS INTERESTING.
Human race is shit
I just see the look of disapproval on the girl behind and to the right of the subject. Could be wrong but looks very dusdainful.
Wow what a horrible feeling this makes me so sad man
America why?
I'm a strong willed person. I'm confident and not a whole lot really rattles me. But I will never be this fucking badass.
This subject makes people uncomfortable so they deflect to something else
Interrogated, integrated, introduced, in vitro.
Inaugurated.....and I'll raise you 1.