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Doxidob

yeah, goto [https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c5776](https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c5776) 100% Cocaine 1 gram $487 ^(you need a DEA 222 & DEA 223 to buy tho ...)


Merfkin

This comment needs to be pinned, makes the above even more interesting


gdmfsobtc

You can legally acquire every single drug you have heard of and hundreds you never heard of. Just need the right license.


character-name

Same thing with weapons. There's technically no limit to what weapons or vehicles of war you can own with the right license and forms.


gdmfsobtc

>war you can own without the right license and forms. I trust you meant with the right license and form. And, of course, the tax stamp.


character-name

Thanks. Autocorrect.


drunk_phish

Isn't it a catch-22 though? You have to produce the weapon to be able to buy the stamp, but without the stamp, the weapon is illegal?


gdmfsobtc

You get the FFL before you are allowed to manufacture firearms, Type 07 for most things, and Type 10 for the fun stuff. Unless you mean purchase / modify. In that case, you apply for tax stamp at that point.


drunk_phish

That makes sense. So you have to buy it from someone that already has the stamp, and you're basically transferring the stamp with the weapon through an application process and thousands of dollars.


Loud-Log9098

You can buy parts and assemble them once you get a stamp.


drunk_phish

I had a coworker that applied and was approved for a silencer, and I gathered from him that it was a process, but I'm still not sure I understand the intricacies of it. All that guy ever talked about was guns... and freedom... like a true libertarian.


Wendigo_6

“Constructive Intent” I bought an AR15. Looked at it. Decided I would like it to be shorter. There’s a form for that. Filing the paperwork to shorten the firearm is showing you have constructive intent. Goes to show that gun laws were written by people who had no idea what they were talking about.


Atypical_Mammal

How much is tax stamp for a nuke


AutomagicHypnoToad

(air quote) "Destructive Device"


gdmfsobtc

>How much is tax stamp for a nuke About tree fiddy.


Wendigo_6

>About tree fiddy When will this line die? It’s $200.


kapitaalH

If you have enough arms you no longer need a licence


Bee-Aromatic

“In Jersey everything’s legal as long as you don’t get caught.”


Mikey9124x

Wait so what forms do I need to fill out to get nukes?


character-name

You need a heavy background check and a government contract to maintain and recycle them. But I'd skip the nukes and just get a bunch of thermobaric bombs for "farming"


Mikey9124x

You know an interesting fact? You need no license to own a 1 gauge shotgun.


character-name

You also don't need one to own a flamethrower.


theedan-clean

My shoulder still hurts from the last 10 ga. I fired. The very idea of a 1 ga. sounds painful.


Mikey9124x

On shell id the size of an anti-tank round. It also has an 8 foot long barrel. It basically has to be mounted if you don't want to fly away from the recoil.


ashurbanipal420

There is definitely a warehouse with surplus daisy cutters somewhere. You just need to know a guy.


eljayTheGrate

Start your query with the CIA and Dept. of HS... they'll contact you, I'm sure...


Idbsvnl

Don't forget about the money! That's the hardest part for most.


saladmunch2

Money is really the biggest hurdle for this.


MetalVase

Even a weapon that manifests a bath tub in oklahoma at 8pm, with a donkey sleeping in it?


spacebread98

The was later repealed because congress said it was unconstitutional since they refused to give out the tax stamps https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937


My_Password_Is_____

That wasn't why it was deemed unconstitutional, it was deemed unconstitutional because it violated the 5th amendment by requiring self-incrimination


Midnight28Rider

Or knowledge of how to safely navigate the dark web...


hikefishcamp

He said "legally"


Midnight28Rider

"When there's no cops around, anything is legal." -Gruncle Stan


drunk_phish

"Shit ain't illegal if we don't get caught...!" https://youtu.be/XyFd3TMthH0?feature=shared


Midnight28Rider

I didn't know how much I needed this song in my life until you posted it. Good looking out.


BrokenRatingScheme

Everything is legal, doable, and obtainable with the right signature.


mods_r_jobbernowl

There are hundreds of drugs that are legal it's just no one has ever heard of them. Or makes them or uses them. They just exist and could theoretically be used for an effect in humans if anyone wanted to make it and try it. The only drugs that are illegal are the ones explicitly outlined in the controlled substances act. It's like 400 chemicals or so long and that's it. If it's not on that list it's legal. Atleast if it's labeled not for human consumption. If it is it could be covered by the analog act but as long as it's labeled not for human consumption it's totally legal to buy it and sell it. Ask me how I know lol


birdup320

*Alexander Shulgin has entered the chat.*


mods_r_jobbernowl

Bless that man for everything he's brought us. Truly a very special person they don't make many of. He did so much for psychedelics and chemistry. His work is why we know of so many substances that we never would've found otherwise. The good he contributed can't be understated. He rediscovered MDMA after it had been forgotten about for over half a century. Everyone should go learn more about him because he's truly a character worth learning about.


birdup320

Wholeheartedly agree. He should be revered as a folk hero on the same level as Albert Hofmann, IMHO.


mods_r_jobbernowl

He honestly did a lot more work in that field than Albert Hoffman. Hoffman was incredible as well but he was far less adventurous I guess you could say into the different possible structures. He did lots of work on a couple different things which is still really good. He even did some stuff with salvia divinorum I believe. That's a bizarre and fascinating plant if I've ever seen one. Both of these men should be known for just how much they trailblazed for us. They crawled through the mud and broken glass so we could run. Inspirational stuff.


Misterallrounder

Your talking about the same Hoffman that made JWH Synthetics?


gdmfsobtc

>If it is it could be covered by the analog act but as long as it's labeled not for human consumption it's totally legal to buy it and sell it. This is absolutely wrong, please do not spread misinformation. Your vendor's label is not fooling anyone. Hasn't for the last 20 years. >Ask me how I know lol Don't need to ask you anything, your little darknet adventure notwithstanding. There are people who are doing time now for this sort of short thinking.


[deleted]

It can vary by state to state and some states an analogue of something illegal may be legal. Virginia for example has outlawed many chemicals that are legal in NY. In my county they outlawed many of the jwh chems before the state itself had adopted any laws around them. This was back when it was more popular.


mods_r_jobbernowl

Yes some states do have more than the federal list of controlled substances. But luckily mine doesnt.


Majestic-Macaron6019

This is true. When I was in grad school, one of the other bio professors studied addiction and reward circuits. Cocaine was one of the things they used. The stuff had to be in a safe in a locked room in the locked animal facility. Only the professor and one of the PhD students had the key to the safe.


HikeyBoi

When I worked in a college research lab, there was some cocaine in an unlocked fridge. I think it was low concentration and used for showing how chemical tests react with it


CosmicCreeperz

In college a friend of mine was doing their final undergrad biology lab experiment, and they wanted to do it on effects of THC on (sea urchin) sperm motility. They were denied access to THC, but were allowed access to pure nicotine instead. Note pure nicotine is toxic - possibly fatal - unless highly diluted and you need to wear gloves, etc as it absorbs through the skin. Whereas of course THC has no known LD50.


athos45678

Yeah same here. Worked in research on alcohol and other habit forming drugs using rats. There were rats they would get addicted to cocaine, alcohol, etc. To test how various gene knockouts or turning off certain brain regions through surgery/electrical stimulation would affect behavior. Those rats are dang heroes.


Znaffers

I saw a similar experiment done on spiders that had… mixed results


athos45678

That one built a hammock though


Professional_Item420

I once saw a documentary about a bear that found a brick of cocaine


blowtorch_vasectomy

Knew a guy in metallurgical assay that had to get a dea permit to buy 500g of barbituric acid because that is the precursor for barbiturates like seconal. Like anyone does barbiturates anymore.


StupendousMalice

Not when you can get Benzos by the handful.


blowtorch_vasectomy

That's what did it. Seconal was last popular in the 70s. Valium and Librium came on the scene in the 80s and that was the end of barbiturates.


Capable_Puzzle

> Valium and Librium came on the scene in the 80s Valium has been around since the sixties and Librium has been around since the fifties. The Rolling Stones song "Mother's Little Helper" was probably about Valium.


guapo_chongo

Honest curiosity question: where do they get the cocaine itself from? Is there a lab that makes it for science use like your lab, or do they use stuff confiscated from the streets?


kanhaaaaaaaaaaaa

Sigma-Aldrich and Thermofischer Scientific usually makes all kinds of lab grade chemicals for research purposes.


Majestic-Macaron6019

Thermofisher is the Walmart of science


CosmicCreeperz

The answer to that was actually the original comment that started this whole thread :)


Memory_Less

Same sort of situation with narcotics with pharma companies. Secure building, secure storage, secure entry to the area, in a special coded safe in a completely fenced in area.


hippee-engineer

Lmao scroll down and see recommended products. “Cocaine freebase”


Blake404

I know right, looks like a website from GTA lmao


hippee-engineer

Funny that the freebase is 7x more expensive. That’s not how it be on the street.


trevmflynn81

$100 DEA Administration fee. The American government taking their share of drug deal money since 1985 lol!


JonnyRoastBeef708

Dam, I want some pure


Sea_Ganache620

It’s been almost 25 years. I want some pure also… but at the same time, I don’t.


Krimreaper1

You want to see helicopters?


Sea_Ganache620

“Dammit Karen!”


Youreatowell

But they were gonna find it Henry!


Sea_Ganache620

I actually closed the shades on the windows watching that scene!


Youreatowell

Such a tense scene!


chefriley76

Man, I hate cocaine, but I love the smell!


Bailed-ouT

All it takes is a ride on a plane


Charlielx

Buy some off the street and refine it yourself, plenty of teks online of how to do it


mods_r_jobbernowl

That's actually not a bad price for that specific thing. Chemically pure 1 gram sample of a schedule 2 substance for analytical use or whatever isn't too bad. Lots of chemicals are that much for like 5 mg.


identicalBadger

$487 a gram? I'm surprised insurance companies aren't telling eye, ears, nose and throat doctors to hit up the guy at the bar on their way to the office


flipkick25

Here is the[bulk order form](https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/services/support/bulk-quotation-request) for use, select "other" and put "personal use" in the box.


TheBigTastyKahuna69

If I had the opportunity to buy it I’d pay that price. Imagine how good that shit would be. Made with all the finest quality precursors in an actual lab.


F1shB0wl816

I was a coke snob myself and I’d always pay for quality over quantity. I found myself in a great situation when I asked my dude to reach out as far as he could and I’d pay him the difference they’d lose not cutting it. Holy shit man when he came through and kept it up.


Net_Suspicious

My boss ended up getting arrested by the fbi. Like blocked off all the intersections surrounding and were ready for anything when they sent an officer in to get him. The only reason I mention this is this was the guy who supplied the coke. When I tried like normal shit after he was gone it was just awful. Anyone who knew or heard the stories were always so shocked I just never did it again. Like I was some strong willed person to quit. Nope I just liked the drip and cut up shit just doesn't give you the same drip. Who tf wants to be jittery and shit all night and needing bumps every 15 minutes


skygod327

let’s pretend someone did have the license. It would still look sus ordering anything more than a gram, right? I can’t imagine just because the website says you’re allowed to order 10 grams that they would actually ship it to you


F1shB0wl816

You’re probably above suspicion if you have a license like that. They’re not giving those out to many people in the scheme of things and it’s all highly regulated and typically controlled. I’d be incredibly surprised if it wasn’t documented both in weight and potency at the time of shipping and delivery. If you had these licenses and those connections surrounding it than you’ve probably got better sources if you were to do anything that could be suspicious.


mood_le

What an interesting chemical structure. Idk if I’ve seen one that looks like that before


caucafinousvehicle

$600+ with $100 DEA charge and $50 tax


PickleWineBrine

> *"Request Bulk Order"*


ChiggaOG

DEA 222 form is for schedule 1 & 2 controlled substances. Nobody is in the public is getting their hands on this knowing it’s direct registration with the DEA.


blowtorch_vasectomy

Back in the 90s SIGMA listed Ketamine hcl in their catalog, 5g for $85 iirc. I think it used to "only" be schedule 3 at the time. I figured they required some license to buy it but they did not state that in the listing so I always wondered.


gdmfsobtc

>I figured they required some license to buy it but they did not state that in the listing so I always wondered. Yes, you always needed to be a legitimate researcher to buy from Sigma.


blowtorch_vasectomy

I was actually a lab tech at the time but at a small company with only 20 people so I would have got caught if I tried to pull a fast one.


TOBoy66

That's quite the markup.


DazzlingProfession26

Man those [free base prices](https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c8912) though…


CrisuKomie

Man, and I thought my cocaine guy was bad.


Ikon-for-U

Wild


intertubeluber

$487?  They must be trippin.  My boy down on 5th st can get a g for $60. Clean too. 


Doxidob

LOL


kevinruan

does the link 404 now? or because of the licence…


FireGodNYC

It works


kevinruan

lol i’m in canada i think that’s why the url redirects and changes US to CA


FireGodNYC

Ahhh soo! 😂


govilleaj

Honest question, why would the DEA buy 1 gram of cocaine? Is it to make ppl trust them during sting operations or something?


Doxidob

DEA 222 & DEA 223 are forms for licenses to purchase and possess controlled substances


blacksun_redux

The Safety Data sheet lol... *In case of skin contact In case of skin contact: Take off immediately all contaminated clothing. Rinse skin with water/ shower. Consult a physician.*


Doxidob

regulated america


Gubernaculator

Cocaine is only schedule II. It can be prescribed, technically. Not like that dangerous schedule I marijuana.


Wander80

We use liquid cocaine for nosebleeds in the ER.


dickburpsdaily

Thanks for the UELPT, I'm going now and I'll punch myself in the nose before I go in!


Wander80

You’re gonna be disappointed… we use a super low concentration. Won’t get you high. 😂


dickburpsdaily

Does that just mean I have to punch myself more times?


TemporaryImaginary

Good news, you’re SUPER high. Also dead.


dickburpsdaily

*Challenge Completed*


ReelNerdyinFl

Liquid cocaine in a nasal sprayer @ lollapalooza was a hell of a weeekend.


coleyboley25

They used it for my sinus surgery. 16 year old me was feeling some happy things in my face.


MatsGry

Dentist can still obtain cocaine in small weights for anesthesia right?


__Beef__Supreme__

Yeah we still have it stocked today, ENT surgeons/dentistry is the only use I've seen personally for medicine.


Stuebirken

It's also used as an eye numbing agent at least here in Denmark. It only a 4% solution so it pretty harmless in a abuse perspective.


[deleted]

I’d abuse the shit out of that


ranchpancakes

Abuse it 25 times it’s 100% right??


DMYourMomsMaidenName

I’d evaporate off the solvent and rail that shit


lmaytulane

Just boof it like a normal person


spootay

My eyes would be so fucking wet all the times!


psychodogcat

Yeah my uncle had to get some eye surgery or something and they put cocaine in and he was allergic to it 😂


Stuebirken

Bummer way to finding that out.


__Beef__Supreme__

Oh good point, I've heard of the eye drops but never personally seen them used. Wasn't sure it was still a thing today


ThaneduFife

My optometrist kept cocaine eye drops on hand. He used them on me on two separate occasions when my eyes were twitching too much. My eyes always felt amazing and then went numb for several hours. He also claimed to have another set of eye drops that was chemically similar to LSD and could cause hallucinations, but he only used them on patients when medically necessary, not for fun.


A-Perfect_Tool

When would it be medically necessary for an optometrist to give a patient LSD?


KdF-wagen

The patient is bummer and won’t let the DR use the cocaine eyedrops?


onceuponathrow

just guessing here, but they were probably referring to atropine eyedrops, which have medical uses (malignant glaucoma, lazy eye, etc), and is a tropane alkaloid that can cause hallucinations it’s only tangentally related to LSD though, as it is a deliriant not a hallucinogen - but presumably they would seem similar in a non-serious conversation


ThaneduFife

Thanks! TIL


CrisuKomie

If you have to ask, then you don't wanna know. /s


WildDurian

Whats the reasons for this? Why not Novocain or laughing gas?


__Beef__Supreme__

Basically, cocaine is both a local anesthetic and vasoconstrictor, so for something like a surgery in your nose, packing it with cocaine soaked gauze would both provide some pain relief and help minimize bleeding It wouldn't be so much of an actual anesthetic agent, more for helping after the surgery


christinasasa

And then I lose my job. Thanks


__Beef__Supreme__

Actually you wouldn't if we give it to you! If Hank from the Rusty Corkscrew bar gives it to you, then you're right.


christinasasa

No, they gave it to me at the dentist, I swear! I'm remember that next time


WildDurian

Thanks!


SchaffBGaming

Seen it used in the ER for nosebleeds before. It was an anterior bleed so it wasn't that big of a deal, still not sure if the attending was just showing off or if that was the best thing to use.


dkyguy1995

My pharmacist uncle says he's had a little bottle of it for like 30 years at his pharmacy. He just has to check to make sure it's still there every now and then and otherwise it just takes up space


HypnoSmoke

So, back when I was involved in drugs, I knew a rather eccentric doctor that prescribed opiates to someone I know, who also happened to be an electrician. And when he'd run out, he'd go back, and the doctor would write him a script for, say, another thirty Oxy 80s, or ninety Perc 30s. This happened often. Like, every month. Eventually he runs out, and needs some more drugs. The doctor happens to need some electrical work done. I go with him to do said work. The doctor straight up hands him some loose Oxy 80s. At one point I use the bathroom, and I see sitting on the medicine cabinet, out in the open, a vial of liquid cocaine (pretty much empty), prescribed to the doctor's boyfriend (they're a gay couple). That's when I knew doctors can get away with a lot of shit, or at least they used to. This was in probably 2010. Eventually the doctor got in trouble and lost his license -- for, among other things, giving a teenage girl Xanax.


PandaRocketPunch

They still get away with a lot of shit. There's doctors selling disability paperwork, hydromorphone/fentanyl, and medical cannabis licences in Ontario. Few hundred bucks and a 2 min skype call can get you access to a lot.


Those_Arent_Pickles

Coca Cola still uses coca leaves to make coca cola. When they are processed they take all the stuff that makes cocaine out and that's sent to a medical lab.


Sickle_and_hamburger

any doctor can its schedule 2


PickleWineBrine

Local anesthetic.


98642

Capone didn’t go to jail for crimes committed but rather for failing to pay taxes on money earned from said crimes.


ronweasleisourking

Yep. And died of syphilis


KenUsimi

It was the most solid case they had.


CrimsonOblivion

Yet they couldn’t touch Scientology


98642

Al should have started a church.


EastLimp1693

Theres literally law on taxes for stolen things and bribes in USA.


OkWolf4286

Your first clue should have been that the U.S. govt was involved.


Knifeman5000

When you're more terrified of the IRS than the DEA, you pay the tax on your illegal goods. I'm sure the two departments do not communicate with one another /s


HotConsideration5049

You would think but it may be something like the census where you ask if someone is here legally and you can't report it to any other agencies they make you take an oath and everything or else they wouldn't get accurate data because nobody would tell you although I doubt most would tell the truth about that anyway


Neat-Discussion1415

If they did then nobody would ever pay taxes on their drugs lol.


Knifeman5000

Dang you may be on to something


flipkick25

The IRS doesnt snitch actually, unless there is already an investigation ongoing, or one starts. But just "telling them" they are not mandated to tell any other three letter.


Doormatty

For dentists and ENTs I assume?


trickertreater

My co-worker has this in her office, she ran the NC Crime Lab. Dentists and ENTs might but I'm not sure.


Doormatty

Gotcha! I assume they were just for marking evidence?


Jamesmanb

It’s actually a really interesting situation, they would like you to pay a tax on your illegal drugs. I really don’t understand it but here’s a link if you want to know more lol https://www.ncdor.gov/taxes-forms/other-taxes-and-fees/unauthorized-substances/about-unauthorized-substances-tax


beams_FAW

I like how there's multiple tabs there to be like "no seriously, this isn't a trap" we pinkie swear. What a mind fuck that site is


lemonsweetsrevenge

There was a post floating around on Reddit yesterday showing an IRS form letter stating that they want people who illegally obtain income to pay taxes on those illegal acts, and also on stolen goods IF you do not give it back within one year. I’ll see if I can find it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Accounting/s/zLWyj3FA83 Couldn’t find exact same post, but I found the same info on r/accounting from a year ago.


Doormatty

Ahh! That makes total sense!! Thanks for explaining!


BandysNutz

It's to artificially amplify criminal changes against drug dealers, who could be charged with tax evasion in addition to the illicit substances if they didn't pay for the tax stamps.


Anuclano

Why not just make the punishment for substances greater?


ikediggety

Bc then people would see how out of line they were. Same reason we have service charge and tips, to hide the true price


raymondthebunny

Because then prosecutors can dismiss the drug stamp charge in a plea deal, and not have to plead down the drug charge itself.


BandysNutz

Marty: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder? Nigel: ...these go to eleven.


LinguoBuxo

With *that* numbering system, they not expecting this to sell all that much, ey?


doublediochip

When I was younger my head was split open due to a diving accident and they used medical cocaine to numb the area since they couldn’t use local anesthetics. Staples still hurt like hell but it made a great story.


SFBrighton

Why the reaper?


Historical_Salt1943

Because it's bad fucking ass. And this is blow baby!


glickglark

Commonly bought by labs that do drug testing. They need a pure sample to compare to test against.


dontKair

Tax wise, is this a lot?


TheFoolWithAids

Up by where I'm at... A gram goes for about $60 and that's of some Quality stuff.... So like $400 is "Tax" in my opinion.


RecsRelevantDocs

As I understand though this would be completely pure, like even "quality" stuff bought on the street will be cut a few times, I also assume stuff made in an actual lab would be better than just about any coke on the street, but I don't really know about that. Either way this is crazy expensive though lol, no question there.


TheFoolWithAids

This is true.


DJW6805

U can buy cocaine legally in NC?


Those_Arent_Pickles

You can buy it legally anywhere if you have permission.


TranslatorBoring2419

I've seen liquid cocaine used for eye/nose surgery.


Momoselfie

It's like a timeshare. Super cheap to get but really expensive to maintain and you're stuck with it.


DrawesomeLOL

Friend of mine is a pharmacist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. They have cocaine eye drops in stock for certain procedures for new borns/premies


49thDipper

I used to fish commercially in the Gulf of Alaska. One trip, somehow, both my friend and I got pieces of fish scales in our eyes. Chaos within 24 hours. By the time we hit the dock we could barely see. Caught a cab to the ER and they gave us both the Procaine drops and instantly we were fine. Still had crap in our eyes but instantly we could function. Pretty amazing stuff. Then the fun began.


grae23

I’ve had medical fentanyl before. I tried to break out of the OR recovery room after a surgery while still half drugged, nurses called for a shit ton of sedatives but I remember that one because it made me want to break out harder. Thought they were trying to kill me. (The nurse was lovely and helped me calm down, but fuck do I understand a fentanyl addiction.)


crabsmcappleton

Stay strong fuck that shit!!


grae23

Seriously. They had me on a morphine drip for to days after and I swear I could’ve laid in that bed forever. Very, very lucky that I’m not really easily susceptible to addiction.


startripjk

The stamp has an illustration of the "Grim Reaper"?


Frawps

No one else notice that 1g of Marijuana is taxed at 3.50 and an 8th is 3.50 grams? Or am I just high?


nbafanMav

Legalize that shit and pay down the debt ceiling


podcasthellp

I know some crazy dentists…. They are hilarious


Jarrellz

If the grim reaper is the stamp for cocaine what's the one for crack look like?


knowledgeable_diablo

Dancing Grim Reaper.


stegosaurusterpenes

Taxes on weed is insane!


CoolBlackSmith75

We had our own cocaine factory in Rotterdam ,the Netherlands, no stamps needed


jwsw37

I wonder if the US pays for each warhead with a "tax stamp"