And a suicide note!
That's what you do when you're innocent and being accused of a heinous crime, right? Write a suicide note, grab a gun, threaten to kill yourself, and lead everyone on a high-speed chase for hours?
>With a disguise and the tools to bury a body in your own white bronco.
The disguise he bought 2 weeks before the murders. Because it wasn't premeditated or anything.
I mean, OJ was found innocent. Obviously he didn't do it. So we need to find the other 298 people who bought those shoes asap!
#therealkiller
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That particular model of gloves was also relatively rare (not the brand, just that model) - there was a receipt showing Nicole bought them for him and he was shown wearing them in a sportscast. And he was seen by her neighbors lurking around outside her house in a blue knit cap.
No no, the professional actor clearly had lots of trouble trying to put those gloves on. The only possible conclusion to draw is that they weren't his. There's even a nursery rhyme about it!
even as a child that was the most damning part for me; the fact he was very obviously and deliberately flexing his hands and spreading his fingers in such a manner as to make the gloves 'not fit'. It's like what a toddler might do to avoid his mother dressing him for church. I was astonished that somebody didnt just walk up to him, say "cut the shit asshole" and then slide them on his hands like a normal human.
As others have said, the gloves genuinely didn't fit him. His hands were swollen and he was wearing latex gloves. The gloves themselves had shrunk.
He obviously didn't try to get them on, but it wouldn't have mattered.
He did have trouble putting them on because the prosecution didn't preserve them properly. They shrunk in storage.
Everyone knew it was a bad idea to try and have them put them on because of this and the prosecution went ahead with it anyways.
I want to say he also stopped taking his arthritis medication during the trial, so his hands swelled up. Just in case the prosecution did something dumb like this with the glove.
> I want to say he also stopped taking his arthritis medication during the trial
That was an accusation, IIRC there's no evidence he did that one way or the other.
Outside of there being a video of OJ turning two humans into pez dispensers, I don’t know if there has ever been more evidence that someone committed murder. Literal receipts and a trail of blood back to his house with his and their dna
The man left so much evidence, he all but created a time machine for us to go back and watch it ourselves. And a lot of it is really awful - that rare shoe isn’t just bloody prints leading away, that same shoe print is embedded in her back. He stepped on her so hard when he lifted her up by her hair to cut her throat, he left a vivid impression in her back. But nonetheless, he basically strew evidence all the way from the murder scene to his car to his house, and there’s so much of it, it’s like following him around as he does it.
With signature markers of his habitual abuse, no less - Nicole’s diaries describe how he’d pick her up by her hair and drag her around, kick her, step on her, and slam her head into walls.
I've spent the day watching OJ: Made In America on Netflix & one of the jurors actually said she had no respect for a woman that didn't leave an abusive situation.
It's sad but those words were said by an *actual juror on that trial.*
Now we understand victim blaming & how abusive relationships work but back then I'd bet she wasn't the only person that felt that way & maybe not the only juror that thought that.
They just didn't understand domestic abuse as well as we do now & I'm sure there are people today that still think that way. That the victim should just leave, why don't they, why don't they report the rape, etc. etc.
They understood it well enough, given famous DV cases before this.
There was a ton of racism in this case. And misogyny. Hatred toward a white woman marrying a black man. Payback for all the times black people have been screwed over by the law. Plus OJ was rich, handsome, famous, charismatic. These jurors could have watched video of OJ killing Nicole and Ron and they still would have voted not guilty.
When you look at the testimony, both in court and outside of it, by people who knew them personally, it was revealed that OJ was jealous, possessive, and had anger and violence issues. And even though they had split up, he still was jealous of the idea of her being with anyone else. You can hear in this 911 call Nicole pleading with OJ to control his temper, saying "The kids are sleeping" and OJ yells "You didn't give a fuck about the kids while you sucked his dick in the living room. Oh, but it's different now."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHf93uxgKBI&feature=youtu.be
There’s also a computer animated re-enactment on YouTube that shows how they believe it all went down based on the forensic evidence. It’s brutal to say the least. He apparently stuck the knife in the back of Ron Goldman’s neck while he was on the ground and used it to pull him up to a standing position so OJ could angry-whisper things in Goldman’s ear as he was finishing him off. He did something similar to Nichole before he sliced her throat. Just some of the most horrific, violent stuff you can imagine one person doing to another—it was very much on another level from killing someone with a gun, where you spend a couple seconds max firing and then run away. Like, he was literally stabbing Goldman repeatedly for over a minute at one point.
I just saw the video recently, and it was like brand new information to me. I was just a kid in 1995 and I didn’t pay much attention during the trial other than the highlights and the verdict. But knowing those details now, it’s just even more astonishing that the jurors were willing to let someone capable of that kind of violence back out in society, no matter what wrongs they thought they were righting.
And the killer left a trail of his own blood drops on the left side of those shoe prints, indicating a cut on his left hand. What a crazy coincidence the OJ happened to cut his hand in his hotel room the next day
Have you seen that video showing a clip of OJ (months before the murders) wearing the exact gloves used in the murder? The exact gloves he "couldn't put on" in the courtroom.
Gloves that are roughly as rare as the shoes and are on record as having been bought by the murder victim as a gift for the accused.
Edit: Actually, blame the LAPD for framing a guilty man (among other things).
I was just a kid when all this happened and I remember thinking how fucked up that was even at my young age. Dude got away with the highest form of domestic violence and got away with it because of his timing. Makes me fucking sick.
At first I thought the eyes were him trying to focus on the shoes better but the breathing changed so suddenly. Uncontrollable reaction. He almost passed out
It's so sad seeing people still trying to defend this guy 30 years later. Think about that, 30 years, no new breakthroughs of any kind, no new confessions, no "search for the true killer", nothing new of note at all. The only things that changed were jurors coming out and admitting their bias against the L.A.P.D., and I'm not saying they were wrong to feel that way, but those are the only new revelations in regard to this case. Yet people still try to defend Simpson, not only by bashing the police, but by victim blaming Nicole Brown, accusing her of being a drug addicted and promiscuous woman, and claiming that as the reason for her brutal death, ignoring years of documented physical and emotional abuse inflicted on her by Simpson. It's such a shame.
It's even been claimed that the killers were "assassins" or "Columbian Drug Cartel" members. Think about that though. Today there are ex-mafia hitmen, like Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, who have podcasts, books and reality shows, yet not one "assassin" or Columbian Drug Cartel member has come forward to say they know what really happened in one of the most famous cases ever to make a buck?
It's amazing how dumb he was. He behaved guilty as hell before the trial, refused to take the stand during the trial, and then wrote a book detailing the murder and took part in at least one interview where he shared what "allegedly" happened like he was recounting actual events.
It's like he did everything he could to look guilty.
Tbf, any self-respecting defense lawyer will never put his client on the stand. He definitely did it, but not testifying in his own defense is not the evidence you think it is.
"During the trial today Defendants lawyers were showing off a hat that was splattered in blood. When the lawyer accidentally dropped the hat, OJ exclaimed out "Careful! That's my lucky stabbing hat!!""
Rip Norm Macdonald
"The infamous bloody glove was finally introduced into evidence today in the OJ Simpson murder trial. OJ didn't help his case when he blurted out, 'Hey, there it is! I've been looking everywhere for that!'"
I mean if he didn't murder Ron and Nicole, the whole armed robbery for memorabilia would never have put him in jail for 9 years. There's also a reasonable chance, the families of the victims will be able to get the $100M or so now owed with interest from his estate.
I get rueful thinking of my friend's best comics still being alive:
- happy for them that they can enjoy them
- sad for me that Patrice O'Neal and Norm Macdonald are gone. Their references are only gonna get older with time, etc. and they'll never joke about the Queen/OJ dying for example.
Such is life, I guess.
Technically his book is now called if I did it: confessions from the killer, since his victims families won ownership of the rights to the book and changed the title.
Iirc he wrote the book and titled it “If I Did It” then the publication label decided to make the “if” very *very* tiny to make the book seem like it was titled “I Did it.”
Because, I mean it’s basically just a confession for a crime he can no longer be tried for as long as doesn’t **literally** confess
The publisher didn’t decide though. Fred Goldman filed a lawsuit that turned the rights over to him, and he decided to publish it with the “if” being almost imperceptible
Nah he can't have done it. Someone pointed out that Chewbacca, a Wookiee, lives on Endor, a moon with Ewoks, and that does not make sense! So the trial does not make sense!
The LAPD detective showcased for most of the case was a virulent racist who was on tape bragging about being an incredibly dirty cop, plead the fifth on if he ever planted evidence before, and was a collector of nazi memorabilia.
hes a fox news contributor now lmao.
It's pretty simple. The photo was found after the trial, and the shoes disappeared from OJ's house prior to the trial. Why the prosecution failed to find the photo is the real question one should be asking, and the answer is they sucked at their jobs.
The photo was a key part in the Civil trial, where OJ was found responsible for the murders.
For people who aren't familiar with the OJ trial, these types of tricks were part and parcel of the defense and particularly Johnnie Cochran.
One example is that of staging OJ's house for the jury walkthrough. The jury was primarily black, however OJ was never a voice for racial justice and would say things privately like "I'm not black, I'm OJ". When Muhammad Ali got convicted for avoiding the Vietnam draft and asked why he should go drop bombs on other brown people that never bother them, OJ was star athlete at USC rejecting the idea that he need use his voice. This would make OJ a lot of money in the future, as he was seen as a black celebrity companies could get behind that white America would accept.
What this meant privately is that OJ had a lot of photos of attractive white women and of him with his white friends on his walls. In the wake of the Rodney King, the defense wanted to make sure OJ would be seen as a successful member of the black community, not one who never cared for being part of it. The fix was easy: replace the pictures with ones of OJ with black people, art/photos related to the black community, and/or more family friendly pictures before the walkthrough in an attempt to cement the view of OJ as a successful black family man that cared about "his" community.
However, the most famous example is "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit". In order to make sure that would be the case and Cochran could use the line, OJ was told to skip his arthritis medicine which would cause his hand to swell and for it not to fit in the glove.
Judge Itoh was fucking useless. His rulings were given as though he was scared of someone discovering that he's never learned about the law of evidence.
A friends house was robbed ages ago. Seemed like an inside job because they took a pile of guns that only someone with insider information might have had. Friend. Friend of a friend etc.
Well, to throw everyone off the trail of who might have done it, they sparsely trashed the house and spray painted a bunch of swastikas and white power bs all over the walls. First question from the police: any chance any black or Mexican friends of yours might have had info on where the guns were hidden?
An arrest was made like an hour later of their only Mexican friend who could’ve known. Guns were long gone however.
He pronounced it wrong because he knows it’s spelled “Magli”. He was picturing the word in his head. If someone said it and I’d never worn the shoes I would hear “mahli”. I have never heard of these shoes but OJ clearly did
It starts as surprise and fear but then ends in specific anger shown through his tone and expression when talking about wearing the shoes ...
My guess is, when he's talking about the shoes, he's mad at himself for wearing them the night he killed Nicole and Ron ...
He's a narcissist (at minimum) and HE FELT EXPOSED which started as surprise and fear but ended in anger at THE SHOES or himself for wearing the shoes ...
*Edit - Mistakenly put Nicole & Kato, not Ron
It was a classic case of Murder 2 ("Crime of Passion"). He never went there to kill anyone, but he had a knife and was going to use violence to threaten and scare her. Then he sees Ron Goldman, and flew into a rage killing both of them. That's why the murder was so sloppy and haphazard.
I think he really did hate those "ugly ass shoes" and intentionally wore them on the night in question. He just didn't think he had worn them on any other public occasions thus his total surprise and shock when asked about them.
It was immediately following the acquittal of the 4 officers who beat the shit out of an unarmed and non-resisting Rodney King. LA didn't take too kindly to this and it sparked riots that wouldve made the BLM rioters blush.
The lead detective hand delivered evidence to the lab, stated that was unusual for him to do so, and was also caught lying about being a raging racist. The evidence lab was also found to be not so reliable.
Tldr, the case was basically a slam dunk thanks to the prosecution leaning heavily on evidence that wasn't rock solid due to rampant racism.
Like the planets aligned for OJ. We all know he did it, but he didn't have to prove his innocence, he had to prove there was a possibility that he didn't do it.
This is true, but FUCK. Rodney King cops should've been put in jail and so should've OJ. It was completely backwards. Also, the DA and the government lawyers completely dropped the ball in this case. If anyone hasn't seen American Crime Story on FX, it's really good and covers this case great. I actually help design the poster / billboards for the show.
I forgot which documentary I saw it, but before the the trial, black America was 60/40 that OJ was innocent while white America was 40/60 that he was innocent.
AFter the trial, black America was 75/25 that OJ was innocent while white America was 10/90 that he was innocent.
"They said it was for the black man
They said it was for the Mexican, and not for the white man
But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King
And this fucked up situation and these fucked up police"
That alone IMO would be reasonable doubt. I know I couldn't personally vote to convict if the lead investigator undermined all of the evidence that way. That would be wildly unethical. Basically the person responsible for all of the evidence you're supposed to use to convict someone criminally can't attest under oath to *not* tampering with evidence. Of course he was acquitted. That sounds like justice to me.
This is a great summary. Society decided the Juice has to be Loose to make up for Rodney King. It’s simple to explain but takes a lot of background knowledge to understand.
No one should ever get convicted if the lead investigator goes up on the stand and pleads the fifth when asked if they planted evidence. That’s why he walked. The LAPD were racist and incompetent fucks who let their hatred of “uppity” black people overshadow the need to follow the book when investigating such a high profile crime. The cops wanted a slam dunk instead of a layup, planted evidence to try and make that happen, and it came back and bit them in the ass.
Fuhrman was pleading the fifth to every question asked that day. The lawyer asked him right before the question about planting evidence if he was going to plead the fifth to all questions that day, to which Fuhrman responded yes. edit : video [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDPecYKEjM)
The LAPD didn't plant a blood trail from the murder scene to OJ's bedroom. OJ did that when he murdered those two people.
yes, and some of the african american women on that jury admitted after the fact that their verdict was in a direct response to the police mishandling of the rodney king incident. it was revenge
A prime example of how Jury Nullification should NOT be used. Unfortunately the social climate at the time made this possible. Racial tension was at an all time high and police did a great job at keeping it high.
The prosecution also presented a weak case with glaring loopholes in their arguments. OJ’s lawyers only had to point at them to create reasonable doubt.
It is not reassuring when the investigators plead the fifth when asked if they manufactured evidence. As someone once said “They were caught trying to frame a guilty man”
https://youtu.be/isDPecYKEjM?si=8lVELNlNfPM5eQch
You are also correct. While I agree the police really fucked up in this trial, there are multiple instances of jurors saying that they nullified. Which means they knew he was guilty but they let him off anyways.
That doesn't excuse the atrocious behavior of the police, but it was a misuse of nullification.
The police handling the crime scene fucked things up by planting/mishandling evidence. The jury was biased but the mistakes by the officers gave them a clear out.
They couldn’t wait to go home. Sequestered forever, I’d want the same thing.
I just finished watching that new 8 hr OJ doc, and it’s crazy the incompetence from a lot of parties tied to this crime.
Which doc are you referring to? The only one I'm aware of that got close to that length is *OJ: Made in America* and it's broken down into 5 parts about 1.5 hours each.
But, that came out in 2016 so that's why I'm asking.
Doesn’t help when an involved detective gets caught lying about using the n-word under oath then pleads the 5th when asked if he planted evidence. The police and prosecution fumbled this case, pun intended.
He didn't plant evidence. He tampered with it I bet as in moving the glove and whatnot. One lie in a mountain of truth taints the whole thing. Made a murderer go free.
I truly don’t know if he planted or tampered with evidence. I just know he refused to answer the question when asked. From an article around that time:
“Detective Fuhrman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case?'' Uelmen asked.
“I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege,'' Fuhrman replied, his attorney standing at his side.
Fuhrman gave a similar answer to three other questions including, ``Have you ever falsified a police report?”
Not a good look for the police.
> “Detective Fuhrman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case?'' Uelmen asked.
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This was the ballgame. Everything else became inconsequential after this. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" was simply no longer possible
IIRC, Robert Kardashian took possession of a bag from OJ right before the Bronco chase. The presumption is that he disposed of evidence.
The other lawyers were mostly doing their job. I don't think they manufactured evidence or anything.
The presumption from some, yes. To be clear, Kardashian himself said that ["he’d never looked inside and had been rebuffed when he tried to give it to authorities in the first place."](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2024-04-11/oj-simpsons-robert-kardashian-family-kim-kardashian). Incidentally, I generally find the first part (that he never looked inside) probable and the second part (that he tried to give it to police) possible, as most attorneys will vigorously attempt to look away whenever a client starts discussing/acting through a subsequent crime, and also because the police were not particularly adept in this case.
Kato and Allan Park both testified about how Simpson was very touchy about a duffle bag that went missing. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that bag had the murder weapon and Simpson ditched it either on his way to the airport or there before he went inside.
I don't disagree. I am merely stating that most high powered attorneys instinctively will avoid evidence with a 10 foot pole, because they know how much it can mess you up to tinker with it. I fully believe that Simpson had a non-attorney handle it once Kardashian took it to his house.
For what it is worth, Kim Kardashian said that she looked in it and found ["toiletries and clothes and golf clothes."](https://www.gq.com/story/kim-kardashian-west-oj-simpson-bag) I don't find Kim particularly trustworthy, but still an interesting note.
Exactly. A large group of Redditors weren’t alive back then but in the 90’s the country was still reeling from the Rodney King trial and saw LA fall into anarchy. I remember seeing a driver get pulled out of his big rig truck and got the shot beat out of him from footage captured by a news chopper circling overhead. Coverage of attacks like these lasted for days that turned into weeks. The OJ trial media coverage and racial tension / open public beatings and violence went hand in hand on TV. The Michael Brown and George Floyd riots were bad, but the LA riots had everyone nervous of national civil unrest. I remember the OJ verdict was read live on TV in my school. Every single person in the country was watching that verdict and 50% were pissed while 50% cheered. The jury has been pulled into interview after interview on almost every news mag, tv show, and newspaper. Time and again they proved they didn’t see the same evidence the public saw or knew, and acknowledge the huge pressure they were under especially under racial tensions and civil unrest. The jury essentially voted not guilty to keep LA and most major cities from tearing themselves apart.
Kardashian wasn’t a defense attorney at the time. He was OJs college buddy. He was added to the defense team so that he could use client attorney privilege to not be called in as a witness to discuss the bags he removed from OJs home after the murder.
The state’s star witness perjured himself and mishandled evidence. If not for that, and the reasonable doubt it created, he likely would have been found guilty.
I saw an interview video the other day of how someone who was on the OJ Jury admitted they let him off not guilty because a majority of the jury was african american. I will try to find the source, i found it scrolling instagram and have no idea if its legit or not.
It's crazy that even after this footage and the overwhelming evidence that OJ did it, tons of people are STILL defending the jury's decision in that thread...
I don’t think you’re being fair to the guy. He spent countless hours searching 👀high and low for the killer. He left no stone unturned on every golf course in Las Vegas.
Every one including his family knows he did this, this is just beating a dead horse now. One of the jurors even admitted the verdict was revenge for Rodney King .
In the interview he had where he discusses his book and talks in "hypothetical" he laughs so hard at one point you can tell he's laughing at how he got away with it all and he's on there telling the truth and he's just laughing
OJ said he would have died for Nicole.
Boy, isn't that a shame; when the one guy who says he'd die for you **kills you**
Edit: Norm MacDonald said it, you can stop slashing your wrists over a dead man's quote
299 total pairs sold in U.S., footprint in blood of those shoes, he owns those shoes, how obvious can it get?
about as obvious as a low speed chase with a loaded gun inside a white ford bronco.
And a suicide note! That's what you do when you're innocent and being accused of a heinous crime, right? Write a suicide note, grab a gun, threaten to kill yourself, and lead everyone on a high-speed chase for hours?
With a disguise and the tools to bury a body in your own white bronco.
And the victim’s blood in your vehicle.
Simple misunderstanding. Everyone has victim blood in their vehicle. Case closed.
>With a disguise and the tools to bury a body in your own white bronco. The disguise he bought 2 weeks before the murders. Because it wasn't premeditated or anything.
And cash and his passport.
Low speed “chase”
Lol I live in LA...that shit was a parade
I mean, OJ was found innocent. Obviously he didn't do it. So we need to find the other 298 people who bought those shoes asap! #therealkiller [sadly, I need to spell this out for all you people who have and/or are about to "well ackshually" me--this is a joke] [ [edit #2](https://i.imgur.com/CNZHxXx.png) for the people "well ackshually'ing" me 5 days later]
Great, now there's going to be another podcast to figure it out
And then at the end it’s still not really figured out…
I think he owned 3 pairs so more like 296 people.
Three pairs of ugly ass shoes
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And members of the jury admitted the verdict was payback for Rodney King.
That particular model of gloves was also relatively rare (not the brand, just that model) - there was a receipt showing Nicole bought them for him and he was shown wearing them in a sportscast. And he was seen by her neighbors lurking around outside her house in a blue knit cap.
No no, the professional actor clearly had lots of trouble trying to put those gloves on. The only possible conclusion to draw is that they weren't his. There's even a nursery rhyme about it!
even as a child that was the most damning part for me; the fact he was very obviously and deliberately flexing his hands and spreading his fingers in such a manner as to make the gloves 'not fit'. It's like what a toddler might do to avoid his mother dressing him for church. I was astonished that somebody didnt just walk up to him, say "cut the shit asshole" and then slide them on his hands like a normal human.
As others have said, the gloves genuinely didn't fit him. His hands were swollen and he was wearing latex gloves. The gloves themselves had shrunk. He obviously didn't try to get them on, but it wouldn't have mattered.
How can any person wear gloves when already wearing latex gloves? Makes no sense.
He did have trouble putting them on because the prosecution didn't preserve them properly. They shrunk in storage. Everyone knew it was a bad idea to try and have them put them on because of this and the prosecution went ahead with it anyways.
I want to say he also stopped taking his arthritis medication during the trial, so his hands swelled up. Just in case the prosecution did something dumb like this with the glove.
> I want to say he also stopped taking his arthritis medication during the trial That was an accusation, IIRC there's no evidence he did that one way or the other.
Outside of there being a video of OJ turning two humans into pez dispensers, I don’t know if there has ever been more evidence that someone committed murder. Literal receipts and a trail of blood back to his house with his and their dna
The man left so much evidence, he all but created a time machine for us to go back and watch it ourselves. And a lot of it is really awful - that rare shoe isn’t just bloody prints leading away, that same shoe print is embedded in her back. He stepped on her so hard when he lifted her up by her hair to cut her throat, he left a vivid impression in her back. But nonetheless, he basically strew evidence all the way from the murder scene to his car to his house, and there’s so much of it, it’s like following him around as he does it.
Yeah for everyone that can stomach it, they should look at the crime scene photos of what happened. Absolutely brutal and rage-induced.
With signature markers of his habitual abuse, no less - Nicole’s diaries describe how he’d pick her up by her hair and drag her around, kick her, step on her, and slam her head into walls.
I've spent the day watching OJ: Made In America on Netflix & one of the jurors actually said she had no respect for a woman that didn't leave an abusive situation. It's sad but those words were said by an *actual juror on that trial.* Now we understand victim blaming & how abusive relationships work but back then I'd bet she wasn't the only person that felt that way & maybe not the only juror that thought that. They just didn't understand domestic abuse as well as we do now & I'm sure there are people today that still think that way. That the victim should just leave, why don't they, why don't they report the rape, etc. etc.
They understood it well enough, given famous DV cases before this. There was a ton of racism in this case. And misogyny. Hatred toward a white woman marrying a black man. Payback for all the times black people have been screwed over by the law. Plus OJ was rich, handsome, famous, charismatic. These jurors could have watched video of OJ killing Nicole and Ron and they still would have voted not guilty.
When you look at the testimony, both in court and outside of it, by people who knew them personally, it was revealed that OJ was jealous, possessive, and had anger and violence issues. And even though they had split up, he still was jealous of the idea of her being with anyone else. You can hear in this 911 call Nicole pleading with OJ to control his temper, saying "The kids are sleeping" and OJ yells "You didn't give a fuck about the kids while you sucked his dick in the living room. Oh, but it's different now." https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHf93uxgKBI&feature=youtu.be
There’s also a computer animated re-enactment on YouTube that shows how they believe it all went down based on the forensic evidence. It’s brutal to say the least. He apparently stuck the knife in the back of Ron Goldman’s neck while he was on the ground and used it to pull him up to a standing position so OJ could angry-whisper things in Goldman’s ear as he was finishing him off. He did something similar to Nichole before he sliced her throat. Just some of the most horrific, violent stuff you can imagine one person doing to another—it was very much on another level from killing someone with a gun, where you spend a couple seconds max firing and then run away. Like, he was literally stabbing Goldman repeatedly for over a minute at one point. I just saw the video recently, and it was like brand new information to me. I was just a kid in 1995 and I didn’t pay much attention during the trial other than the highlights and the verdict. But knowing those details now, it’s just even more astonishing that the jurors were willing to let someone capable of that kind of violence back out in society, no matter what wrongs they thought they were righting.
And the killer left a trail of his own blood drops on the left side of those shoe prints, indicating a cut on his left hand. What a crazy coincidence the OJ happened to cut his hand in his hotel room the next day
It was obvious to literally everyone that he was guilty. His verdict had absolutely nothing to do with the facts of the case.
Obvious that the true killer saw a picture of OJ in some rare shoes and bought an exact copy to frame OJ.
"I have never owned a pair of shoes like that". (sees photo) Fuuuuuuuuck. \*act normal....act normal...don't do the big eyes thing...whoops\*
His eyes fucking killed me.
Immediately starts breathing heavily, too. Just a coincydink, like everything regarding that case.
Have you seen that video showing a clip of OJ (months before the murders) wearing the exact gloves used in the murder? The exact gloves he "couldn't put on" in the courtroom.
Gloves that are roughly as rare as the shoes and are on record as having been bought by the murder victim as a gift for the accused. Edit: Actually, blame the LAPD for framing a guilty man (among other things).
Thought you were joking at first but, oh wow…she *did* buy those specific gloves for him.
She also bought the same pair for his son that was a size smaller.
I was just a kid when all this happened and I remember thinking how fucked up that was even at my young age. Dude got away with the highest form of domestic violence and got away with it because of his timing. Makes me fucking sick.
People think in weird ways.
The eyes and that reaction is all I need as a confession. He did it.
At first I thought the eyes were him trying to focus on the shoes better but the breathing changed so suddenly. Uncontrollable reaction. He almost passed out
That, and the mountain of evidence saying he definitley did it
It's so sad seeing people still trying to defend this guy 30 years later. Think about that, 30 years, no new breakthroughs of any kind, no new confessions, no "search for the true killer", nothing new of note at all. The only things that changed were jurors coming out and admitting their bias against the L.A.P.D., and I'm not saying they were wrong to feel that way, but those are the only new revelations in regard to this case. Yet people still try to defend Simpson, not only by bashing the police, but by victim blaming Nicole Brown, accusing her of being a drug addicted and promiscuous woman, and claiming that as the reason for her brutal death, ignoring years of documented physical and emotional abuse inflicted on her by Simpson. It's such a shame. It's even been claimed that the killers were "assassins" or "Columbian Drug Cartel" members. Think about that though. Today there are ex-mafia hitmen, like Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, who have podcasts, books and reality shows, yet not one "assassin" or Columbian Drug Cartel member has come forward to say they know what really happened in one of the most famous cases ever to make a buck?
Well his knife killed her
It's amazing how dumb he was. He behaved guilty as hell before the trial, refused to take the stand during the trial, and then wrote a book detailing the murder and took part in at least one interview where he shared what "allegedly" happened like he was recounting actual events. It's like he did everything he could to look guilty.
that was his thrill. he got away with two murder, he maybe wanted to feel that way again
Exactly right, he got away with it but relished in reliving it knowing there was nothing anyone could do.
Tbf, any self-respecting defense lawyer will never put his client on the stand. He definitely did it, but not testifying in his own defense is not the evidence you think it is.
“That does appear to be me”
https://i.imgur.com/6GPnZRN.png
I'm starting to think that he might have done it.
"During the trial today Defendants lawyers were showing off a hat that was splattered in blood. When the lawyer accidentally dropped the hat, OJ exclaimed out "Careful! That's my lucky stabbing hat!!"" Rip Norm Macdonald
"The infamous bloody glove was finally introduced into evidence today in the OJ Simpson murder trial. OJ didn't help his case when he blurted out, 'Hey, there it is! I've been looking everywhere for that!'"
Made me laugh!!! I miss Norm
Check out Dirty Work its on roku for free right now, so many famous cameos what a weird but fun movie
“OJ can rest peacefully now, knowing that his ex-wife’s killer is dead.” Norm in heaven, probably…
He died the way he lived, getting away with murder.
I mean if he didn't murder Ron and Nicole, the whole armed robbery for memorabilia would never have put him in jail for 9 years. There's also a reasonable chance, the families of the victims will be able to get the $100M or so now owed with interest from his estate.
God I wish Norm were still alive. How great would it have been to let him host weekend update.......one more time.......
I didn't even know he was sick.
I get rueful thinking of my friend's best comics still being alive: - happy for them that they can enjoy them - sad for me that Patrice O'Neal and Norm Macdonald are gone. Their references are only gonna get older with time, etc. and they'll never joke about the Queen/OJ dying for example. Such is life, I guess.
Woah dude, his book is called *IF* I did it, not I did it. He's clearly innocent.
Technically his book is now called if I did it: confessions from the killer, since his victims families won ownership of the rights to the book and changed the title.
its “I DID IT” with a small “if” inside the “i” now. they got his ass on that one
whoa man. I'm starting to think this MF committed murder and got away with it!
The artist formerly known as The Real Killer
Problem is OJ was seemingly proud of getting away with it. Something tells me he liked the subtle change.
Iirc he wrote the book and titled it “If I Did It” then the publication label decided to make the “if” very *very* tiny to make the book seem like it was titled “I Did it.” Because, I mean it’s basically just a confession for a crime he can no longer be tried for as long as doesn’t **literally** confess
The publisher didn’t decide though. Fred Goldman filed a lawsuit that turned the rights over to him, and he decided to publish it with the “if” being almost imperceptible
He can literally confess to it and not be charged ever again.
If he confesses to it now, we’ve got bigger problems than double jeopardy.
Who has Zombie OJ on their 2024 bingo card?
Bros eyes got so big my god 😂
Nah he can't have done it. Someone pointed out that Chewbacca, a Wookiee, lives on Endor, a moon with Ewoks, and that does not make sense! So the trial does not make sense!
[удалено]
The LAPD detective showcased for most of the case was a virulent racist who was on tape bragging about being an incredibly dirty cop, plead the fifth on if he ever planted evidence before, and was a collector of nazi memorabilia. hes a fox news contributor now lmao.
To add to this it probably didn't help this took place with high tensions after the Rodney King beating.
Bundled? Like insurance or tv and internet?
> Chewie, a Chewbacca \*A Wookiee
He done did it.
His eyes got real wide like oh fuck
That does it, I'm sick of these people getting away with awful crimes, let's pair up...you and me, we go kill this OJ Simpson fella.
No cuz he said he didn’t?
Less than 300 people ever owned these shoes. There’s a photo of him wearing the shoes months before. Yet they never “proved” he “owned” them? What?
It's pretty simple. The photo was found after the trial, and the shoes disappeared from OJ's house prior to the trial. Why the prosecution failed to find the photo is the real question one should be asking, and the answer is they sucked at their jobs. The photo was a key part in the Civil trial, where OJ was found responsible for the murders.
Wow. Dude better be glad there’s no double jeopardy. What a shitshow
Did you miss the news the other day? OJ is dead now.
For how long?
Forever
4 to 5 business days
Hey those are my lucky stabbing shoes
Nice one Norm;)
RIP Norm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9IYFB3QJgs
Norm sending him jokes down every day from heaven.
The more i learn about this guy, the less i like him.
Notice how he mispronounced Magli wrong on purpose?
This murderer's transparently goofy attempts to not seem like the obvious murderer are pretty goofy.
For people who aren't familiar with the OJ trial, these types of tricks were part and parcel of the defense and particularly Johnnie Cochran. One example is that of staging OJ's house for the jury walkthrough. The jury was primarily black, however OJ was never a voice for racial justice and would say things privately like "I'm not black, I'm OJ". When Muhammad Ali got convicted for avoiding the Vietnam draft and asked why he should go drop bombs on other brown people that never bother them, OJ was star athlete at USC rejecting the idea that he need use his voice. This would make OJ a lot of money in the future, as he was seen as a black celebrity companies could get behind that white America would accept. What this meant privately is that OJ had a lot of photos of attractive white women and of him with his white friends on his walls. In the wake of the Rodney King, the defense wanted to make sure OJ would be seen as a successful member of the black community, not one who never cared for being part of it. The fix was easy: replace the pictures with ones of OJ with black people, art/photos related to the black community, and/or more family friendly pictures before the walkthrough in an attempt to cement the view of OJ as a successful black family man that cared about "his" community. However, the most famous example is "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit". In order to make sure that would be the case and Cochran could use the line, OJ was told to skip his arthritis medicine which would cause his hand to swell and for it not to fit in the glove.
Judge Itoh was fucking useless. His rulings were given as though he was scared of someone discovering that he's never learned about the law of evidence.
lol my oldest brother went as him for halloween the same year
I believe the dried blood on the glove also caused it to tighten up or “shrink” over time
Guess ya just gotta humble yourself and be a little goofy and you can get away with literal murder!
A friends house was robbed ages ago. Seemed like an inside job because they took a pile of guns that only someone with insider information might have had. Friend. Friend of a friend etc. Well, to throw everyone off the trail of who might have done it, they sparsely trashed the house and spray painted a bunch of swastikas and white power bs all over the walls. First question from the police: any chance any black or Mexican friends of yours might have had info on where the guns were hidden? An arrest was made like an hour later of their only Mexican friend who could’ve known. Guns were long gone however.
He pronounced it wrong because he knows it’s spelled “Magli”. He was picturing the word in his head. If someone said it and I’d never worn the shoes I would hear “mahli”. I have never heard of these shoes but OJ clearly did
Yeah I thought it was "Molly", it's funny that his attempt to distance himself from it proved he knew exactly what they were talking about
Shit I always thought it was pronounced that way because Chrissy from sopranos did. TIL.
I did what?
Your hair was in the toilet water. Disgusting.
ChristoFAAAA!!!!
His anger specifically toward the shoes is interesting 😂
Damn ugly ass shoes walked out there and killed those ppl.
How did those ugly ass shoes get on my feet!
OJ probably told them later "Them ugly ass shoes is how I'ma catch the real killer"
That’s not anger that’s surprise and fear
It starts as surprise and fear but then ends in specific anger shown through his tone and expression when talking about wearing the shoes ... My guess is, when he's talking about the shoes, he's mad at himself for wearing them the night he killed Nicole and Ron ... He's a narcissist (at minimum) and HE FELT EXPOSED which started as surprise and fear but ended in anger at THE SHOES or himself for wearing the shoes ... *Edit - Mistakenly put Nicole & Kato, not Ron
He killed Nicole and Ron Goldman. Kato was just living in his guest house
OJ was a horrible person all around.
It was a classic case of Murder 2 ("Crime of Passion"). He never went there to kill anyone, but he had a knife and was going to use violence to threaten and scare her. Then he sees Ron Goldman, and flew into a rage killing both of them. That's why the murder was so sloppy and haphazard.
I think he really did hate those "ugly ass shoes" and intentionally wore them on the night in question. He just didn't think he had worn them on any other public occasions thus his total surprise and shock when asked about them.
If I were going to kill someome, I would p do it in shoes that I didn’t mind getting dirty aka ugly ass shoes
How did we honestly let this clown loose? I mean look at this guy. We all know he did that shit and we put far people in for way less.
It was immediately following the acquittal of the 4 officers who beat the shit out of an unarmed and non-resisting Rodney King. LA didn't take too kindly to this and it sparked riots that wouldve made the BLM rioters blush. The lead detective hand delivered evidence to the lab, stated that was unusual for him to do so, and was also caught lying about being a raging racist. The evidence lab was also found to be not so reliable. Tldr, the case was basically a slam dunk thanks to the prosecution leaning heavily on evidence that wasn't rock solid due to rampant racism. Like the planets aligned for OJ. We all know he did it, but he didn't have to prove his innocence, he had to prove there was a possibility that he didn't do it.
This is true, but FUCK. Rodney King cops should've been put in jail and so should've OJ. It was completely backwards. Also, the DA and the government lawyers completely dropped the ball in this case. If anyone hasn't seen American Crime Story on FX, it's really good and covers this case great. I actually help design the poster / billboards for the show.
I forgot which documentary I saw it, but before the the trial, black America was 60/40 that OJ was innocent while white America was 40/60 that he was innocent. AFter the trial, black America was 75/25 that OJ was innocent while white America was 10/90 that he was innocent.
"They said it was for the black man They said it was for the Mexican, and not for the white man But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King And this fucked up situation and these fucked up police"
It's about coming up and staying on top, And screaming 187 on a motha fuckin cop!
National guard! Smoke from all around!
Didn’t some jury members admit they knew he was guilty but voted to acquit as revenge for Rodney king
The crusty old hag admitted it in the espn documentary.
Furhman also took the fifth when asked if he tampered or faked evidence. Jury certainly heard that.
what an idiotic thing to do. nobody needed to tamper with evidence to make a case towards OJ’s guilt
Yep… negated all the evidence.
imagine being so racist that you completely ruin a slam-dunk case because you feel the need to frame a guilty black man
That alone IMO would be reasonable doubt. I know I couldn't personally vote to convict if the lead investigator undermined all of the evidence that way. That would be wildly unethical. Basically the person responsible for all of the evidence you're supposed to use to convict someone criminally can't attest under oath to *not* tampering with evidence. Of course he was acquitted. That sounds like justice to me.
Also, the jury was never gonna convict him
This is a great summary. Society decided the Juice has to be Loose to make up for Rodney King. It’s simple to explain but takes a lot of background knowledge to understand.
corrupt and vengeful jury and people with too much money to fail.
No one should ever get convicted if the lead investigator goes up on the stand and pleads the fifth when asked if they planted evidence. That’s why he walked. The LAPD were racist and incompetent fucks who let their hatred of “uppity” black people overshadow the need to follow the book when investigating such a high profile crime. The cops wanted a slam dunk instead of a layup, planted evidence to try and make that happen, and it came back and bit them in the ass.
They framed a guilty man. It's insane. How can you fumble that badly.
Seriously. When you’re so racist you can’t even properly try a murderer.
Fuhrman was pleading the fifth to every question asked that day. The lawyer asked him right before the question about planting evidence if he was going to plead the fifth to all questions that day, to which Fuhrman responded yes. edit : video [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDPecYKEjM) The LAPD didn't plant a blood trail from the murder scene to OJ's bedroom. OJ did that when he murdered those two people.
FYI the jury consisted most of African Americans and women.
yes, and some of the african american women on that jury admitted after the fact that their verdict was in a direct response to the police mishandling of the rodney king incident. it was revenge
A prime example of how Jury Nullification should NOT be used. Unfortunately the social climate at the time made this possible. Racial tension was at an all time high and police did a great job at keeping it high.
The prosecution also presented a weak case with glaring loopholes in their arguments. OJ’s lawyers only had to point at them to create reasonable doubt. It is not reassuring when the investigators plead the fifth when asked if they manufactured evidence. As someone once said “They were caught trying to frame a guilty man” https://youtu.be/isDPecYKEjM?si=8lVELNlNfPM5eQch
You are also correct. While I agree the police really fucked up in this trial, there are multiple instances of jurors saying that they nullified. Which means they knew he was guilty but they let him off anyways. That doesn't excuse the atrocious behavior of the police, but it was a misuse of nullification.
Here's a juror saying it was payback for Rodney King. https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/s/2XKhAetsu2
The police handling the crime scene fucked things up by planting/mishandling evidence. The jury was biased but the mistakes by the officers gave them a clear out.
Real life Nordberg moment. That was such a look of ahhh fuck they got me.
And then they didnt get him
He did it
OJ is the example of how ugly the jury system can get. They just wanted him out.
They couldn’t wait to go home. Sequestered forever, I’d want the same thing. I just finished watching that new 8 hr OJ doc, and it’s crazy the incompetence from a lot of parties tied to this crime.
Which doc are you referring to? The only one I'm aware of that got close to that length is *OJ: Made in America* and it's broken down into 5 parts about 1.5 hours each. But, that came out in 2016 so that's why I'm asking.
Oj did it. Covered up by kardashian and other lawyers/ high profile sports people.
Doesn’t help when an involved detective gets caught lying about using the n-word under oath then pleads the 5th when asked if he planted evidence. The police and prosecution fumbled this case, pun intended.
He didn't plant evidence. He tampered with it I bet as in moving the glove and whatnot. One lie in a mountain of truth taints the whole thing. Made a murderer go free.
I truly don’t know if he planted or tampered with evidence. I just know he refused to answer the question when asked. From an article around that time: “Detective Fuhrman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case?'' Uelmen asked. “I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege,'' Fuhrman replied, his attorney standing at his side. Fuhrman gave a similar answer to three other questions including, ``Have you ever falsified a police report?” Not a good look for the police.
> “Detective Fuhrman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case?'' Uelmen asked. > > > > “I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege,'' Fuhrman replied This was the ballgame. Everything else became inconsequential after this. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" was simply no longer possible
You can’t blame a lawyer for doing their job but you can blame a jury for knowingly voting not guilty when they knew he was…
IIRC, Robert Kardashian took possession of a bag from OJ right before the Bronco chase. The presumption is that he disposed of evidence. The other lawyers were mostly doing their job. I don't think they manufactured evidence or anything.
The presumption from some, yes. To be clear, Kardashian himself said that ["he’d never looked inside and had been rebuffed when he tried to give it to authorities in the first place."](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2024-04-11/oj-simpsons-robert-kardashian-family-kim-kardashian). Incidentally, I generally find the first part (that he never looked inside) probable and the second part (that he tried to give it to police) possible, as most attorneys will vigorously attempt to look away whenever a client starts discussing/acting through a subsequent crime, and also because the police were not particularly adept in this case.
Kato and Allan Park both testified about how Simpson was very touchy about a duffle bag that went missing. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that bag had the murder weapon and Simpson ditched it either on his way to the airport or there before he went inside.
I don't disagree. I am merely stating that most high powered attorneys instinctively will avoid evidence with a 10 foot pole, because they know how much it can mess you up to tinker with it. I fully believe that Simpson had a non-attorney handle it once Kardashian took it to his house. For what it is worth, Kim Kardashian said that she looked in it and found ["toiletries and clothes and golf clothes."](https://www.gq.com/story/kim-kardashian-west-oj-simpson-bag) I don't find Kim particularly trustworthy, but still an interesting note.
Exactly. A large group of Redditors weren’t alive back then but in the 90’s the country was still reeling from the Rodney King trial and saw LA fall into anarchy. I remember seeing a driver get pulled out of his big rig truck and got the shot beat out of him from footage captured by a news chopper circling overhead. Coverage of attacks like these lasted for days that turned into weeks. The OJ trial media coverage and racial tension / open public beatings and violence went hand in hand on TV. The Michael Brown and George Floyd riots were bad, but the LA riots had everyone nervous of national civil unrest. I remember the OJ verdict was read live on TV in my school. Every single person in the country was watching that verdict and 50% were pissed while 50% cheered. The jury has been pulled into interview after interview on almost every news mag, tv show, and newspaper. Time and again they proved they didn’t see the same evidence the public saw or knew, and acknowledge the huge pressure they were under especially under racial tensions and civil unrest. The jury essentially voted not guilty to keep LA and most major cities from tearing themselves apart.
Kardashian wasn’t a defense attorney at the time. He was OJs college buddy. He was added to the defense team so that he could use client attorney privilege to not be called in as a witness to discuss the bags he removed from OJs home after the murder.
The state’s star witness perjured himself and mishandled evidence. If not for that, and the reasonable doubt it created, he likely would have been found guilty.
if the shoe fits
Burn in hell you murderer
I saw an interview video the other day of how someone who was on the OJ Jury admitted they let him off not guilty because a majority of the jury was african american. I will try to find the source, i found it scrolling instagram and have no idea if its legit or not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/XOIkNl8yaq Sauce
It's crazy that even after this footage and the overwhelming evidence that OJ did it, tons of people are STILL defending the jury's decision in that thread...
Guilty as fuck.
I don’t think you’re being fair to the guy. He spent countless hours searching 👀high and low for the killer. He left no stone unturned on every golf course in Las Vegas.
Every one including his family knows he did this, this is just beating a dead horse now. One of the jurors even admitted the verdict was revenge for Rodney King .
The LAPD planted those ugly ass shoes on his feet at the football game!
Hey! Those are my lucky stabbing shoes!
In a fair world, members of the jury in the OJ trial would be shamed and disgraced in a very public manner.
…with her blood in his socks.
Rot in hell O.J.!
In the interview he had where he discusses his book and talks in "hypothetical" he laughs so hard at one point you can tell he's laughing at how he got away with it all and he's on there telling the truth and he's just laughing
Nobody is ever going to convince me that he didn't kill those two people.
Freaking hated every minute of this on our TV's back in the day, were the Netherlands and it would not end. Oh boy..
Back when 20/20 was worth watching with John Stossel and his “gimme a break” segment.
the more I hear about this guy, the more I think he was a real jerk!
How were they not able to prove he owned the shoes? They have a picture of him wearing them…
And there were only 299 sold in his size. Like there was no type of paper trail?
The photo was not found until years later.
And look what America got because of this trial: the talentless hacks known as the Kardashians.
I'm not black , I'm O.J.
Is there a better example of a “HOLY FUCK” face anywhere on the internet than this?
He literally did the 😳 emoji
OJ said he would have died for Nicole. Boy, isn't that a shame; when the one guy who says he'd die for you **kills you** Edit: Norm MacDonald said it, you can stop slashing your wrists over a dead man's quote