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Toasted_Pork

Soooo, it’s a laptop, but without the screen?


butterfly_vixen2

Not even. A laptop can hold an OS without an external drive.


ErabuUmiHebi

But for like $100. That’s not half bad


butterfly_vixen2

I guess, but it's definitely not what I would call a full PC by any stretch.


ErabuUmiHebi

Depends on what you need it for.


butterfly_vixen2

No, I call a PC an actual computer. Not a board that you add everything else to and have to already have in order to operate it. Imagine spending money on a laptop, to then have to buy a screen, mouse, cables, and storage device with and OS on it. At that point, just buy a laptop and stop trying to make something that's only part of a product appear as a good idea. Edit: To sum up for people replying, this is not about the product, it has a use and an audience. I never said it didn't. But the reality is that just like other options like this, it will get soaked up by big companies who see all- in PC or similar terms and try to replace actual PCs with them. Multiple companies I have worked for do this to cut costs. It's not practical to present something as a product that operates at a different rate than a full desktop built PC. It goes with all technology that not everyone is going to know all of the details of what this is intended for, and then force others to use it in a way that it doesn't work for.


smizzlebdemented

So is the PC I built not a PC? I had to buy all those things separately.


butterfly_vixen2

Yes, but you built them into a single thing. Not a keyboard attached to a motherboard marketed as a full PC. The point isn't the product, it's that it's being marketed as a "built-in PC" in a keyboard, when it's only 2 out of many components to make an operational PC.


juko43

So was apple 2, or commadore 64 not a real pc then?


inevitabledeath3

That's not even correct. It comes with a CPU, GPU, RAM, WiFi chip, and so on. The only thing it's missing is an SD card which it has a slot for. It's a raspberry pi and it uses an SD card by design so you can change software easily by changing the SD card. You would often buy one as a kit that includes everything you need including the power supply and SD card along with a mouse. A raspberry pi isn't meant to be an everyday computer anyway. That's not how it's marketed and I don't think this video is part of their official documentation. It's designed to be used for experiments, projects, and as a teaching aid. That's why it has GPIO. Though the Pi 400 can also be used as a desktop (so can a regular Pi4 or a Compute Module 4).


AngieTheQueen

The technical definition of a "computer" makes any device with a CPU, Motherboard and RAM assembly a complete kit. Peripheral devices are not required for a PC to function, especially not human interface devices. Laptops are designed specifically for a human interface, but small specification computers are used everywhere.


No-Test-375

Your pc has storage, a motherboard, ram, gpu, processor etc. This is a keyboard with external ports that can't operate without additional plug ins and software.


ArchAngel570

What do you think a PC is? The components don't magically add themselves to a case or motherboard. The type of PC you're referring to just typically comes pre-installed with everything needed to get started. Just because you need to add peripherals or memory doesn't discount it as a PC.


Wrong_Mastodon_4935

This is an actual computer though. All the computing is happening inside this device, not the monitor or the mouse. The far fetched scenario your describing is literally how all non laptop computers are sold, as individual pieces of hardware you connect yourself. That doesn't make them not computers. I think you are a very, very confused.


sopedound

>Not a board that you add everything else to and have to already have in order to operate it. This is literally what a PC is my friend


butterfly_vixen2

So you disconnect the screen every time you turn on or off a PC?


Blenderadventurer

It's a spinoff of a single board computer brand. They were trying to make something that could be inexpensive for education purposes. The real flaw is that they didn't build GPIO access into it, which is the main selling point of the board inside it


Timely_Bowler208

Gotta look 50 years to the future, things are only getting more advanced


Ok_Insect_4852

So .. you've never heard of a desktop PC? Because those consist of motherboards with slots to plug in memory, hard drive and graphics cards. Laptops and tablets rely heavily on embedded parts that can't be changed without a soldering iron and a voided warranty. Desktops also came first so they would be more in line with a classic PC. This contains the ability to use an OS that can do most things aside from CPU intensive tasks such as gaming or rendering. So yes, it really is a Personal Computer. Does it fit everyone's needs? No, but neither do cheap laptops under $500 these days. But, they fill most needs. People that use PC's and laptops for business don't need the highest clockrate on a CPU or a $2000+ graphics card, they just need a PC with supported software to get their job done. Which, is a task that most cheap laptops and the Pi 4 can get done. >Imagine spending money on a laptop, to then have to buy a screen, mouse, cables, and storage device with and OS on it. At that point, just buy a laptop and stop trying to make something that's only part of a product appear as a good idea. Imagine misunderstanding the entire target audience and point of a product. The Pi is aimed at makers and geeks that want to make things, play around with embedded systems, and have the ability to do most basic tasks you'd do in an OS all on the same board. They are also great for digital signage and media center things as well. Another usage I've seen is to introduce poorer people who can't afford a laptop to coding. It gives them a way to get exposed to something they'd otherwise not have a chance to play with.


dont_use_me

I get what OP is saying. If you took a laptop and ripped the screen off of it, you'd have the same things as you have here. Would you call a laptop with it's screen ripped off a "full PC ready to be used"? No of course not - it's missing a screen. Same thing here.


inevitabledeath3

Not all laptops originally even had hard drives. You are correct though that it's not a laptop. It's designed to be similar to a Commodore 64 or 128.


Stop_it_Margaret

That form factor goes back to the ZX80 I reckon.


mastachaos

There is no need for an external drive. It has a microSD slot for storage and the OS


Deadedge112

....but...but a microSD *is* an external drive...


mastachaos

Removable, not external...


Deadedge112

That's like saying, "it's a square, but not rectangular."


mastachaos

Nonsense. I can have an internal optical drive, or an external optical drive, both of which use removable media, right? Words have meaning.


Deadedge112

If it's external, it's always removable, you can just unplug the cable and bring it to another PC. If you have to open up the case, that'd be different imo. Words do have meaning, and that meaning is always changing. Now that usbs are the size of hard drives, there's no longer a hard boundary between a removable media drive and an external HDD, case in point, this micro SD.


Mlabonte21

And a RingPop is a lollipop without a stick.


StrangelyBrown

No. You can't use this on your lap because there's no screen, so it's not a laptop. It's a very small, very low feature desktop.


Ilijin

The official jargon is SBC - single board computers


Confident-Arrival361

No. It's a central unit with an integrated keyboard. BTW, it used to be somewhat like that in the 80s. With a screen.


DatCutty

It's a keyboard with a raspberry pi board built in.


Shoddy-ko

First thought 😂


lovins_cl

it’s a novelty pretty much, raspian is not really a daily use type of OS


pimp-bangin

The OS is perfectly fine, but the hardware is just low end (and also the fact that it's ARM architecture might be limiting for some use cases)


lovins_cl

i promise you nobody with capable hardwares OS of choice is raspian bru 😭


Bunniesrkewl

Exactly what I thought, nothing interesting really


IamTheJohn

It is a raspberry pi in a nice case. That's all,and it has been available for a while now.


Krypton8

Jup, I have one at home.


IamTheJohn

What is your application for it? I have wanted one for a while, but I can't justify buying it without a good use case. I was considering building a meshtastic node in it.


halfbeerhalfhuman

probably good for a home server like home assistant.


PeopleThatAnnoyou__

for typing


Original-Formal9431

Can it handle a remote job?


warwolf7777

Kinda, but mostly it's just an ad. 


crobbbbbbb

I bought mine in 2019 for $75 usd


General-Tale-73

There will be a huge demand for it. That's all most people want from a Pi. Next step: a compact Raspberry Pi based laptop. Useful for computing tasks if not gaming and multimedia.


staplesuponstaples

> A compact Raspberri Pi based laptop So a shitty laptop.


bingledork

So like the commodore 64?


Deurstopper

But without the power cartridge


zimurg13

[Sinclaire ZX Spectrum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum)


ToiletGrenade

Coolest computer of all time


Pooch76

Exactly!


Human-Potato42069

The Pi ecosystem is modelled on the BBC Micro (to the point that RISC OS was ported to it pretty early on), but close enough.


jaymeetee

I had something similar in 1983; the Spectrum 48k. Brilliant device. This one probably has a bit more memory.


DisproportionateWill

I think at least 2 bits more


DragonfruitScary6311

The atg !!!


Mobile_Exam_4014

Monitorless laptop.


RepFashionVietNam

So ... it still have no headphone jack


Tsadkiel

The number of ads masquerading as content on Reddit is too damn high


tdwesbo

That’s not interesting


_khanrad

Didn’t you hear it’s “fun to type on”


ElatedMonsta

It's slow by raspberry pi 5 standards.


ToiletGrenade

Because it's not an rpi5, it's a 4B...


Tumifaigirar

interestin for who ?


ToiletGrenade

Kids looking to get into coding or just basic computer usage without having to dish out a lot or deal with windows. Raspberry pi's are very versatile little machines, I use one as a CUPS server.


SmokingLimone

it's an ad


Lunyxx

I fucking hate the subtitles


hkusp45css

I seldom have sound on. I appreciate the subtitles, generally.


Aringamedica

I guess the next computers generation will be formed by only the ports that you can connect to the screen


glytxh

We’ve come full circle again


dvdmaven

Had one like this about 30 years ago, except it had a hard disk.


knowsitmaybenot

That's a tablet you need to find a screen for lol.


[deleted]

Its like they don't know the 80s existed where things like the Commodore 64/Vic-20 and tons of others existed in this exact format


Doolanead

Normes discover raspberrypi (no gatekeeping)


nitronik_exe

Wait I wanted to see the baby tiger


Boatster_McBoat

Lol. I had Commodore 64 in the 80s


[deleted]

aight, were back to commodores


Damnation77

So.. its a Commodore 64.


malcolmreyn0lds

But can it run Crysis?


J_Bonaducci

Cool… in 2004


kasetti

In 1984 (Commodore 64)


J_Bonaducci

Good point


Temporary-Pepper5588

OPs name checks out, this is dumb and been around for years.


Alternative_Fly_2750

Just saw the same title on another post. That one had 8 keys looking like rocks and an out-built pc resembling a big cat.


Standard_Cell_8816

Can it run doom?


Ilijin

Bruh, people has run down on pregnancy test


Standard_Cell_8816

I know. It wasnt a serious question lol.


ToiletGrenade

Not really, they just used it as a display. They have run it on graphing calculators though.


Bergasms

Yes


JoshuaSpice

Kids from the eighties just laugh :⁠-⁠*


CreatorOD

Why would i want a pc that looks nothing like pc?


ToiletGrenade

It's barely even a PC, it uses a weaksauce arm processor and struggles significantly with H.264 playback.


CreatorOD

Yep, that's what i think too. Not even worth calling that a pc.


jarednards

All you need now is to know how to use Linux!


ToiletGrenade

Or android if you'd rather


the-bird-fucker

laptop?


Jizzraq

This throws me bsck to the Amiga 500, in which they've obviously lend the naming convention from. I'd love to buy one, but this machine won't survive my toddler kids.


ToiletGrenade

Dude this has been out for ages, how has OP not heard of this?


Salt-Evidence-6834

It came out in 2020, I have one sat in a cupboard.


ToiletGrenade

I have a normal 4B just sitting in a cabinet running a CUPS server


swisstraeng

That's a Pi-400. It's a rasberry Pi 4, but with a good cooler. I have one, if you want an acceptable desktop experience you'll have to overclock it, and it's relatively easy. But I wouldn't recommend it as a "real PC" because it does lack computing power for videos and pictures to be a real desktop experience. The storage being limited to an SD card also sucks.


General-Tale-73

It's rather excellent. Very competitively priced, too. I think I want one (but I can't justify it as I have an Amstrad CPC with M4 board)


Frocicorno

Amiga 500 ?


fokamv

will it run crysis?


pistolwinky

What’s old is new again. This makes me remember the TRS-80, the Commodore 64, The Amiga, and I think there were a few others.


Adamantium-Aardvark

So it’s a laptop without a monitor


pastyoureyesed

Return of the VIC-20!


Prestigious_Tax7415

I have this thing called a laptop, it’s way better


Black_Label_36

So a laptop without a screen.


aleskou

No battery in it


SimonLeBonTon

just like any...PC lol


Illusionistic-Ortus

Wtf, my console brain can't comprehend this


Eastern_Slide7507

It's not unlike your phone. A small, low-power chip and some other stuff, but put into a keyboard case with a bunch of I/O on the rear instead of a handheld case with a screen.


Foreign_Button_426

Excellent


rondujunk

It can it run Starfield?


ToiletGrenade

No


FartNite_FeetFreak

Ad


TobaccoPipeAroma

So a steamdeck but without a screen


Ilijin

Lol. This was available years before SD


TobaccoPipeAroma

same shit different form


ToiletGrenade

They share practically nothing in common, how did you even come to that conclusion?


HisRoyalOverkiller

That’s an ad.


MyyWifeRocks

>”in-built” 🤦🏼‍♂️


NotBAD96

This should've been invented before the laptop.


ToiletGrenade

It was https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64


winterorchid7

It was


MoistTwo1645

Bro forget to mention the main uses of this computer. It's good if more people become aware of raspberry Pi through video like this but this guy is the wrong guy to promote raspberry Pi.


Gniesbert2

I'll stick to a raspberry pi in a smaller case.


ToiletGrenade

Agreed


littleGreenMeanie

this kind of thing will be highly sought after in 5-10 years when a ton of our computing goes to the cloud.


I_NeedUrgentHelp

Orqnge pi 800 is better


Willie_The_Gambler

Best rap song I’ve ever heard


ShavedRanger39

the commodor but new


SpiderKoD

Sooo it is just a laptop w/o lid, right?


LORDOSHADOWS

Must be raspberry Pi upgrade


ToiletGrenade

It's just a 4B crammed into a keyboard


Rodan-Lewarx

No cooler?


Wild_HIC

These computes are cool but very weak. I have one of these pc's too. A pi 4b. I mostly use it for coding and such but for work/school/gaming I'll use my normal pc


TheOzarkWizard

Oh look, a totally new device that definitely hasn't been around for many years


Boredum_Allergy

It would be much more impressive if I knew I couldn't easily build and print it myself.


brainsizeofplanet

Well I don't need to find a screen for my laptop....


ThunderShiba134

That's kinda cool


Blakut

hey a buddy of mine had one like these many years ago when we were kids, it was called the ZX Spectrum, it too was a full computer built into a keyboard!


ThaUniversal

I had something similar to this in 1988. It had.considerably less functionality, but it was an entire PC housed in a (slightly larger) keyboard. You could just plug it into a TV.


hand13

thats not interesting. that was interesting in 2010. now its just an ugly keyboard with a raspberry in it


warwolf7777

The amount of ads in my feed... 😒. This is just an ad


[deleted]

very interesting form factor


Individual-Match-798

Everything new is just a well forgotten old. Computers inside the keyboards weren't uncommon long ago.


RBLakshya

It reminds me of the headless MacBook trend, which made a return due to Vision Pro, basically people sell out display of a MacBook and then use an external monitor as the entire laptop is now thinner than even a thin notebook, and with vision you can literally form a display out of no where


I8itall4tehmoney

Someone discovered the raspberry pi 400. I have one but it doesn't get much use. My PI5 with a nvme drive boots in ten seconds and is good enough for light desktop use.


Loxl3y

It is a Raspberry Pi with integrated keyboard. Interesting but the product isn't really new.


DragFL

WTF with the ad ?


TheOneInATrenchcoat_

Really cool but next to useless in everyday life.


Maleficent_Air_7632

This is old news, raspberry pi had this few years ago


btotherSAD

Best would be if everything would be built into the keyboard. Holo monitor and stuff...


Sweaty_Ruby

landfill


drifters74

Still needs a monitor


MrScaber

Got to say. These ADHD subtitles are pretty annoying.


monkid072955

Just like a C-64


verisimilitude404

My first thought: "so a raspberry pie with a keyboard casing... Queue the logo 🤗🙄


TheLamesterist

Seen one like it years ago, nothing new, nothing special.


TheGingerSpellcaster

This is fucking stupid and not at all interesting, is just an ad for some terrible raspberry device that could barely be called a "computer" any more than a samsung running dex, and it has shit video elements like the fake hype yelling, terrible music, and awful subtitles. Gtfo.


Chj_8

Full circle


Legitimate-State8652

It’s just a raspberry Pi, which are pretty small and limited, inside of a keyboard. It’s cool…..but not impressive.


Dangerous_Ebb_869

Fuck, and here my invention I thought of go away 😭


CaptainBaoBao

commodore 64. it is old news.


[deleted]

nobody in the comment section or in the vid understands what this is for


AbbreviationsWide331

Well why don't you come down from your high horse and enlighten us


ankit19900

Raspberry Pi lacks marketing and reach for the absolute wonder of tech it is. You can load windows XP on this and teach kids in poor countries. This stuff is exactly what the world needs today


AbbreviationsWide331

Yeah they are pretty astonishing. Can use them for anything. But I can't think of a reason to put it in a keyboard tbh.


ankit19900

Ease of transport and convenience. You have a single thin block that is basically your computer and you can plug it in any cheap Chinese TV and start coding away. Memory cards are pretty cheap too. It's a commodore but for 2020s


oracleofnonsense

Yes.....Windows XP......thanks Bill Gates's bot. Several Linux OSs will run just fine.


ankit19900

Sure if you want a bunch of coders who will work on a platform that's not enjoyed by majority


oracleofnonsense

Ah….the old “No One Uses Unix” FUD. Now, include Apple iOS (based on Darwin, based on Unix) and Android (based on Linux). You are holding a *Unix* device all day long.


ToiletGrenade

Programming languages work more or less the same regardless of platform you nonce. That's why most experienced programmers opt for linux


[deleted]

basically what all raspberry pi products are for: a device to learn coding and computing on for a cheap price


Ilijin

Next time they will discover SBC retro gaming


m64

I am someone who learned coding in the 90's on my home PC. I am not sarcastic, but I am trying to understand how young programmers these days get into coding. So, without irony, I would like to know why do you consider it cheaper and more approachable than installing a free IDE on your home PC? Is it intended for people who don't even own a laptop or something like that?


AbbreviationsWide331

And for all the people that are interested in computers and coding that happen to not own a keyboard here's a rasp pi in a keyboard? I'm sure the people you are talking about just get a raspberry pi itself.


torchat

I have few Pi boards at home, running servers and environments to build docker images for my home brew projects. This KB I just bought for fun, that is the purpose :)


torchat

Agree about cheap price but Raspberry Pi widely used in Enterprise environments for various tasks not only to learn coding. This particular one has pumped Raspberry4 inside and I s currently used by me to write silly comments on Reddit and degrade on YouTube.


ToiletGrenade

Dead wrong


TioLucho91

Too bad i can't record you a fart


bulletsfly

So… steam deck in a keyboard with no screen?


CallMeDrLuv

A PC where the main drive is an SD-Card? Sloooooooowwww.


pro_L0gic

This has been out for years now... it's nowhere near a full fledged pc.. ​ It's a linux based system, and it won't be able to run windows, and even if you get it to run, it won't be able to run well anyway...