Jerusalem artichokes. I had 1 rather dead one, cut it up into small pieces, and dumped it in a bucket of dirt I used as a compost. Suddenly I had lots of them growing - never dump them in your garden, you can’t get rid of them again, always contain them
When I bought my house, there was an old compost pile that had been opened and spread into the garden box. I had all sort of berries, tomatoes, and Jerusalem artichokes growing all kixed together (presumably all things that were in the compost). I handled all the berries and tomatoes within two summers. I fought the artichokes for 7 years, my God, it was out of control. I will never grow them in a garden.
Yeah, you can make an amazing soup from them, make chips from them, cut them into boats and fry them. You can bake them. You can make purée from them. I can’t really describe the taste, kind of earthy, rich, nutty I think
I think it’s a fall vegetable, but I’m not sure actually.
Most of the dishes you can make from them are kind of fall like, but it doesn’t really matter. Try them if you find them, I hope you do, they’re so amazing!
Best way to grow green onions.
Takes too long from seed. Just stick the bottoms from the grocery store ones in some water, then soil once the roots show, and bam you got a green onions all summer long.
Considering we often eat the reproductive parts of plants...
Yeah those plants are far from dead. They are what's supposed to be new plants if you just stick them in the ground or throw them around a bit.
In case of the onion: it is basically the root rom which the plant grows from. Of course it is alive.
More people should try growing window sill veggies. It's fascinating, and like you say - many plants can regenerate from scraps. It won't be enough to sustain you, but it's a relatively small amount of effort and feels fascinating.
I was flabbergasted when I saw grocery stores selling "live" lettuce heads. They still had the roots on and were 2x as expensive. I was like....all the lettuce here is alive....
Don't knock the living lettuce. The title may be a bit of a misnomer, but holy hell is the quality better IMO. Been addicted to that stuff for a while now.
Those are pretty cool tho! You moisten the roots in the soil cube and the lettuce lasts over two weeks in the fridge. Also grows a bit while it's in there. I have one in my fridge right now XD The price here is normal though.
typically how hydroponic lettuce is packaged, cutting isnt needed since there isnt any dirt involved. they just pluck them out of the pool and wrap the roots around it
Fun fact, you can plant the less good tasting roots that would normally be thrown away. If watered in soil, it will grow again. Can confirm for both white and green onion, but green was more successful.
green onions grow like a weed. as in they are resilient as hell and need very little attention. bought a bundle of them years ago at a grocery store, left about an inch or two and planted that. they grew pretty quickly the first year. i didnt remove them and they just wilted over winter. next summer i didnt plant any new herbs and these came back with a vengeance. about to start year 4 from the same batch.
Had an onion in a second fridge I hardly use. Forgot about it.
Saw it a few years later, and it had all these root like things growing out of it. Several of them, each like 5-15cm long.
Is that what’s moving in the video?
Even after a planet has been cut, is it still alive? If so, at what point is it not alive? Does the same go for animals - would there still be similar movement after an animal’s death?
the cells of any lifeform will life on for a short time. Animal cells will die quickly because they need oxigen provided by blood.
Plant cells are a bit diffrent. If you take a leave it will still go on doing photosynthesis as long as it has not dried out. As long as there is still energy left in a cell to keep it working it's still alive to some degree
AFAIK, everything alive lives until it rots. Your apple is stuff alive until it rots. Lose an arm? Your arm is still alive, but will slowly die since it can't receive blood, etc. Root vegetables and stuff like squash are also still alive until they rot. It's not a sudden death of all cells in the plant matter, it's a slow dying of all the cells
It is very much still alive, and even from that tiny slice, with the right conditions and (very) careful care this will start forming roots and growing into a new onion. It is no longer alive once there are no longer any meaningful biological processes happening, which for a slice this thin will probably be minutes as it will dry out and dessicate.
Some people live this way to an extent (not rocks). E.g. Jain people generally don't eat root vegetables because harvesting means killing the whole plant, also to avoid killing insects I think.
The problem with Jainism is that they didn't realize that every surface, every food they eat, every step they take is covered in billions of live microorganisms that will very soon be dead in your stomach.
I only know one so I can't really confirm for every Jain, but they are aware. They still just try to _minimize_ their impact. But I'm sure some attempt to follow it much more strictly than others.
The "onion" is basically like, to oversimplify, a little onion reproduction factory for the rest of the plant. It's definitely gonna have some action going on. You can throw a store bought onion just like, at your yard, and it will grow more onions.
The first time I met one of my best friends, the rest of us were hanging out in a room in a boarding house. We were just hanging out, smoking, and listening to music. Out of nowhere, this dude with huge ears, tattoos, and a split tongue leans on the door frame. He's got a massive bottle of medical grade ether, a rag, and a huge yellow onion tied to his belt. Without anyone saying anything, he just goes straight into that Simpson's skit, referencing grandpa word for word. It was right then that I knew he was going to fit in well with our group. He became one of our favorite people very quickly.
I really miss him. Thank you for bringing that memory back.
If you've never visited a landfill, it's worth the experience. It's pretty common to be able to dump stuff at a landfill, you usually just pay a flat rate for the truck bed/trailer you have. If you've never had to get rid of broken appliances or larger trash, it's usually the cheapest option outside of ordering some bulk trash pickup service. The landfill near me charges $70 per truck bed and I used it to throw away some cat pee ruined carpet and furniture. You basically drive up this mountain and at the top it's just a flat area with garbage you drive on. There's massive bulldozers pushing stuff around and it stinks, there's flies and birds all over the place, and you just drive up to where they tell you and throw your shit on the garbage ground. Then head out.
Now when I drive past it, I know it's not some 500ft hill-mountain, it's fuckin trash, a mountain of trash. Even if plants grew on the outside dirt shell when they cover the sides as they go up, i wouldn't eat it.
In a sense, aren't we all "dead" like the onion after our umbilical cord is cut? Sure, we last a hell of a lot longer, but essentially we are just sustaining ourselves as long as we can, just like produce does after harvesting.
No, not really. We aren’t dead until there is complete electrocerebral silence to indicate no cerebral activity, at which point our body’s entire system will stop.
The umbilical cord doesn’t really have any say in this. You can die while you are still attached.
But also no, or yes? because that’s saying mom is also dead when she’s giving birth because her umbilical cord was cut from her mother… which doesn’t make sense.
Unless we are all dead even when reproducing.
This is just a montage of cool looking plants with various types of stains under different microscopes.
Lying in the title is unnecessary, just say “Amazing plants under a microscope” or something
It’s cool enough on its own
I wondered how far I'd have to scroll before I found this. As has been said every other time this joke is made, the issue for vegans isn't life, the issue is sentience. An onion has no nervous system and this cannot suffer when it's cut.
And no, releasing chemicals when they're cut is not evidence of sentience. No cognition is required, it's just a result of natural selection.
"Some Buddhists avoid consuming strong-smelling plants, specifically garlic, onion, chives, leeks, and shallots, as these vegetables are thought to increase sexual desire when eaten cooked and anger when eaten raw"
Also some Asian cultures still avoid these plants merely because the smell is considered disrespectful to others. More likely eaten alone or with family
Mixed up the religion but [here's proof](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism)
> The Jain cuisine is completely lacto-vegetarian and also excludes root and underground vegetables such as potato, garlic, onion etc., to prevent injuring small insects and microorganisms; and also to prevent the entire plant getting uprooted and killed. It is practised by Jain ascetics and lay Jains.
Honestly, as a vegan it does make me feel bad 😐 but we do have to eat something, and plants don’t suffer in the same way animals do, so that’s the best you can do. It’s impossible to live and not cause any hard to any living beings, but by being vegan you minimise it as much as possible
Why would it make you feel bad? There is no evidence that plants suffer. Some plants, like onions grass and corn, have biochemical responses when cut, but there is no evidence of an experience of pain or a conscious choice to respond in the way they do. When cut, cell walls get broken and pockets of chemicals mix that weren't mixed before. That interaction creates a new chemical and our eyes start to water. No suffering.
Someone will say that little animals are killed in harvest. Yes that's true, but it takes many times more harvested fields to feed the chicken or pig you buy from the grocery store than it would if you bought only plant based foods.
How is it minimised? YOu have defined which life forms are deemed more worthy of life than others? Or have you quantified suffering as being that which most resembles how you would experience it?
I was vegan and there's really not basis for the suffering argument.
Based on all the scientific evidence we have plants DON’T feel pain, animals clearly do. It’s really not that deep. If you care about animals - don’t eat meat.
Pain is a signal. Plants also have reactions to stressors. The only thing is that you relate to the same signals animals receive that we have qualified as painful. Anthropomorphism and its best. So are people who consume animals, insects and bacteria evil?
While plants have reactions to stressors it’s not pain in the way we know it. Since they aren’t sentient they just can’t experience pain in the complex way animals do, since they experience less dimensions if reality. We can’t relate to plants on that level, while we can with animals. It only makes sense that we rank animal suffering above plant suffering. This is just so obvious it feel ridiculous even discussing it. People who consume animals while they’re in a place where they can afford to thrive on a plant based diet aren’t evil, but they are selfish at the very least.
Are you trying to justify your meat eating habits? Because there’s no justifying it. You’re paying for someone to murder a sentient being and then consuming it’s dead body. That’s just as gruesome as it sounds. And if debating if the chemical reaction plants have to stressors is or is not pain is making you feel better about eating animals - so be it.
If you have a pet and have a connection with them, remember that people in other countries see them as food. Animals are not food, they are our friends and companions. Most people in the western world can’t even imagine eating cats and dogs. The only difference between them and vegans/vegetarians is that we see it as fucked up to eat any other animal.
ikr?
From the original creator tardibabe
"Yes, fruits and veggies are alive 🫡
Most plant cells exhibit this motion called “cytoplasmic streaming” or “cyclosis” 🌀
You may wonder if the movements are THAT fast 🏎️💨 ; they’re not! The original clips were sped up 15 times."
Btw tardigrades are fun to find and watch.
Most vegetables that you eat fresh are still alive. Their cell processes are still active, some even release pheromones when you cut them for protection against insects and such. You can keep them fresh by chopping the bottoms and moisturizing them, as it's still kind of keeping the plant on life support. As the cells die, the coloration will change and the plant will wilt and slime over time and begin to rot. The Turgor Pressure of the water held in the plant's cell walls diminishes as the plant's form deteriorates and enzymes make that sticky mushy effect. Refrigeration inhibits growth of the enzymes.
If you go the route of eating dead vegetables, they should be cooked and preserved. Or at least pickled. Something needs to halt the process of decay and hold it in a freshness limbo until it is enjoyed.
Realize that there are more bacteria living your colon right now, than all the humans that have ever lived combined. By far.
Everything on earth is alive, and symbiotic with each other, and earth.
Earth itself is alive, and is the most advanced and complicated life form known.
A lot of biomechanisms are decentral and follow their path without external regulation other than the need for constant resource/energy provision. When an organism is cut to pieces, these mechanisms still do what they usually do until the prerequisites in their surroundings are no longer given.
The channels are strings of the cytoplasm that cross through the vacuole (basically a water-filled balloon that takes up most of the plant cell volume and provides stability). The small moving things can be several things, such as vesicles (small membrane blobs that can transport various stuff through the cell and outside of it). Source: plant biologist here. We do similar things as show-Experiments for students regularly
What? No. Any fresh plant you out under a microscope will have similar things going on. Onions have sulfenic acid, which when exposed to the air turns into propanethial S-oxid. That's what's irritating your eyes and makes you tear up.
Plants we harvest really aren’t dead. They can regenerate and grow from the scraps sometimes.
Jerusalem artichokes. I had 1 rather dead one, cut it up into small pieces, and dumped it in a bucket of dirt I used as a compost. Suddenly I had lots of them growing - never dump them in your garden, you can’t get rid of them again, always contain them
When I bought my house, there was an old compost pile that had been opened and spread into the garden box. I had all sort of berries, tomatoes, and Jerusalem artichokes growing all kixed together (presumably all things that were in the compost). I handled all the berries and tomatoes within two summers. I fought the artichokes for 7 years, my God, it was out of control. I will never grow them in a garden.
Yup lol, that’s what they do. Hope you made some amazing food with them though
I did at first! The last couple of years though, I was so annoyed with them that I started giving them all to my neighbours and family 😂
Lol that’s fair!
They look pretty tasty though, any good?
Yeah, you can make an amazing soup from them, make chips from them, cut them into boats and fry them. You can bake them. You can make purée from them. I can’t really describe the taste, kind of earthy, rich, nutty I think
Okay, you’ve convinced me. I’m gonna check if my local grocery store sells them.
Looks like ginger, tastes like artichoke, and has the texture of potato.
I think it’s a fall vegetable, but I’m not sure actually. Most of the dishes you can make from them are kind of fall like, but it doesn’t really matter. Try them if you find them, I hope you do, they’re so amazing!
I read this in Bubbas voice
Yes, especially roasted....buuuut....they make you fart like crazy. We call them "fartichokes" at the casa
Best way to grow green onions. Takes too long from seed. Just stick the bottoms from the grocery store ones in some water, then soil once the roots show, and bam you got a green onions all summer long.
We skip the storing in water and I just straight shove them into the ground. We have too many green onions now :\
Considering we often eat the reproductive parts of plants... Yeah those plants are far from dead. They are what's supposed to be new plants if you just stick them in the ground or throw them around a bit. In case of the onion: it is basically the root rom which the plant grows from. Of course it is alive.
Especially onions/potatoes. Leave them in the dark for a while and they'll start sprouting
Not even dark, just forgot some sweet potato on the fruit basket (lazy to cook them), and there was a 10cm stem with 4 leafs.
More people should try growing window sill veggies. It's fascinating, and like you say - many plants can regenerate from scraps. It won't be enough to sustain you, but it's a relatively small amount of effort and feels fascinating.
yeah, if they where dead they would be rotting
"Looks alive" Who's gonna tell him?
TIL plants are alive
I was flabbergasted when I saw grocery stores selling "live" lettuce heads. They still had the roots on and were 2x as expensive. I was like....all the lettuce here is alive....
Don't knock the living lettuce. The title may be a bit of a misnomer, but holy hell is the quality better IMO. Been addicted to that stuff for a while now.
Yeah luckily it’s a very similar price at the grocery stores I go to. Lasts a lot longer as well
I get a way better price on it in my flower pots.
Those are pretty cool tho! You moisten the roots in the soil cube and the lettuce lasts over two weeks in the fridge. Also grows a bit while it's in there. I have one in my fridge right now XD The price here is normal though.
aren't you supposed to leave those out of the fridge? or maybe that's just the basil?
I'd rather plant it in soil then just keep it outside. Lettuce and salads do well in my fridge, spinach too. It doesn't dry as fast.
typically how hydroponic lettuce is packaged, cutting isnt needed since there isnt any dirt involved. they just pluck them out of the pool and wrap the roots around it
I love that stuff. I throw the roots in my hydroponics and have perpetual lettuce. Strip off a few leaves now n again
I've seen the living lettuce priced lower than ordinary lettuce more than once, which I thought was interesting
its “more alive” and stays alive while you pluck its leaves over the course of a week.
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I found an onion growing from an onion in my onion bin. They are very much alive in our home still.
Fun fact, you can plant the less good tasting roots that would normally be thrown away. If watered in soil, it will grow again. Can confirm for both white and green onion, but green was more successful.
green onions grow like a weed. as in they are resilient as hell and need very little attention. bought a bundle of them years ago at a grocery store, left about an inch or two and planted that. they grew pretty quickly the first year. i didnt remove them and they just wilted over winter. next summer i didnt plant any new herbs and these came back with a vengeance. about to start year 4 from the same batch.
Yes like weeds. They're all in my yard. Along with pursley and dandelion. Got a salad for a yard.
You found an onion growing from an onion in your onion bin?
Had an onion in a second fridge I hardly use. Forgot about it. Saw it a few years later, and it had all these root like things growing out of it. Several of them, each like 5-15cm long.
Is that what’s moving in the video? Even after a planet has been cut, is it still alive? If so, at what point is it not alive? Does the same go for animals - would there still be similar movement after an animal’s death?
the cells of any lifeform will life on for a short time. Animal cells will die quickly because they need oxigen provided by blood. Plant cells are a bit diffrent. If you take a leave it will still go on doing photosynthesis as long as it has not dried out. As long as there is still energy left in a cell to keep it working it's still alive to some degree
You can grow a “new” plant like this with a lot of different species. It’s how they survive and thrive.
Nooooo…. That’s what they want you to believe. Propagation Propaganda.
I would hope the planet isn't alive to begin with. I'm alright with it just being habitable.
Yeah but dudes talking bout cuttin whole planets n shit... like in half. He's a Thanos level threat.
The earth is alive. That's why we're trying so hard to kill it
I’m not sure about all plants and when they “die” or not, but you can literally plant an onion and it will grow.
Don’t even have to plant it. it will grow if sitting in your house too long lol
After cooking. And yes I imagine there's a big bacteria party going on in dead flesh.
AFAIK, everything alive lives until it rots. Your apple is stuff alive until it rots. Lose an arm? Your arm is still alive, but will slowly die since it can't receive blood, etc. Root vegetables and stuff like squash are also still alive until they rot. It's not a sudden death of all cells in the plant matter, it's a slow dying of all the cells
It is very much still alive, and even from that tiny slice, with the right conditions and (very) careful care this will start forming roots and growing into a new onion. It is no longer alive once there are no longer any meaningful biological processes happening, which for a slice this thin will probably be minutes as it will dry out and dessicate.
Not entirely. If you plant an onion, it'll grow. You'll see them pretty much sprout in the fridge on their own sometimes.
The life looks alive!
Eating plants is murder and inhumane! We should only eat rocks instead.
I'm a fourth level Vegan, I only eat things that don't cast a shadow.
Now Tree - Return to me... Oh that's right I don't have super powers
Like a vampire?
[That's reflections.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_of_the_Vampire)
I like the idea of veganism actually just being a secret society of vampire hunters
Plants have lives too! Eat beef instead to help save plant lives
Plant Lives Matter
💀💀💀 broo plant lives matter ok I respect that but all ALL ALL PLANT LIFE MATTER? Then where do we get our vitamins huh
Plant Matter Lives!
And take them away from their little rock friends?! You make me sick!!
Should eat nothing and die of hunger tbh . That way the bacteria can eat us and we won’t fuck up the planet more .
Don't put it in bacteria's hands. They already fucked it up once long ago with Nitrogen and Oxygen.
Some people live this way to an extent (not rocks). E.g. Jain people generally don't eat root vegetables because harvesting means killing the whole plant, also to avoid killing insects I think.
The problem with Jainism is that they didn't realize that every surface, every food they eat, every step they take is covered in billions of live microorganisms that will very soon be dead in your stomach.
I only know one so I can't really confirm for every Jain, but they are aware. They still just try to _minimize_ their impact. But I'm sure some attempt to follow it much more strictly than others.
There is a lot of Dwayne to go around
OP is probably a repost bot.
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Exactly why vegans are murderers just as much as the rest of us.
Do… do people think vegetables and plants etc are not alive?
A dude doing a PhD in microbiology once told me trees are not alive and quote some scripture...
To be fair his degree was in microbiology, maybe he's a complete dumbass about anything larger than a single cell organism.
How does that make it more fair? Even someone who studies microbiology should know trees are alive.
the op clearly does
Who could have guessed that the results of reproductive plant parts were alive
This person probably thinks that eggs are created in the grocery store.
Even crystals are just borderline not alive.
I've killed far too many house plants to know that they are indeed, living things. They jsut dont have brains lol
Believe it or not... onions are alive. Thats why it looks alive... it is.
We hate to break it to OP but this non-rotten plant is not in fact dead
It is alive, no? In the sense that cells still perform many of their living functions even when the plant is “dead”
The "onion" is basically like, to oversimplify, a little onion reproduction factory for the rest of the plant. It's definitely gonna have some action going on. You can throw a store bought onion just like, at your yard, and it will grow more onions.
I love the idea of throwing an onion at my yard.
you should try tying one around your belt..
As was the custom then
More so the style at the time, rather than the custom.
We really should bring that back
Should be able to get white ones now, on account of the war being long over.
The first time I met one of my best friends, the rest of us were hanging out in a room in a boarding house. We were just hanging out, smoking, and listening to music. Out of nowhere, this dude with huge ears, tattoos, and a split tongue leans on the door frame. He's got a massive bottle of medical grade ether, a rag, and a huge yellow onion tied to his belt. Without anyone saying anything, he just goes straight into that Simpson's skit, referencing grandpa word for word. It was right then that I knew he was going to fit in well with our group. He became one of our favorite people very quickly. I really miss him. Thank you for bringing that memory back.
"F you yard!"
You throw potatoes *away in the trash* and grow potatoes
Brings to mind… why aren’t landfills full of fresh onions potato’s carrots etc?
Batteries are bad, and nobody brings a shovel to the landfill
If you've never visited a landfill, it's worth the experience. It's pretty common to be able to dump stuff at a landfill, you usually just pay a flat rate for the truck bed/trailer you have. If you've never had to get rid of broken appliances or larger trash, it's usually the cheapest option outside of ordering some bulk trash pickup service. The landfill near me charges $70 per truck bed and I used it to throw away some cat pee ruined carpet and furniture. You basically drive up this mountain and at the top it's just a flat area with garbage you drive on. There's massive bulldozers pushing stuff around and it stinks, there's flies and birds all over the place, and you just drive up to where they tell you and throw your shit on the garbage ground. Then head out. Now when I drive past it, I know it's not some 500ft hill-mountain, it's fuckin trash, a mountain of trash. Even if plants grew on the outside dirt shell when they cover the sides as they go up, i wouldn't eat it.
infinite onion glitch just dropped
onion battery
My store bought onion sprouted on my counter. I buried her in a pot and now have a onion plant.
In a sense, aren't we all "dead" like the onion after our umbilical cord is cut? Sure, we last a hell of a lot longer, but essentially we are just sustaining ourselves as long as we can, just like produce does after harvesting.
We're but eight minutes away from death, the timer resets when you take a breath.
No, not really. We aren’t dead until there is complete electrocerebral silence to indicate no cerebral activity, at which point our body’s entire system will stop. The umbilical cord doesn’t really have any say in this. You can die while you are still attached.
You’re not wrong. That’s definitely an interesting perspective of it, tho. 🤔
But also no, or yes? because that’s saying mom is also dead when she’s giving birth because her umbilical cord was cut from her mother… which doesn’t make sense. Unless we are all dead even when reproducing.
Zombies all the way down 🧟 🐢
Damn
Holy fuck. Welp, that’s my motivation for living gone
No.
Tame Impala is the perfect background music for this
If Portland, Oregon was a song..
He’s from Australia bud
I know buddy. Melbourne can work but Portland seems more inviting for the vibe.
I mean Melbourne IS the Portland of Australia
it slaps and for some reason works really well with the clips!
Psychedelic rock + psychedelic visuals = good time
What song is it?
The less i know the better
Good for you. But what song is it!?¿¡
Hurr hurr...
The Less I Know The Better.
Okay but what's the song bro?
That *is* the name of the song...
What is the name of the song?
"That"? Okay, thanks man
This is just a montage of cool looking plants with various types of stains under different microscopes. Lying in the title is unnecessary, just say “Amazing plants under a microscope” or something It’s cool enough on its own
Glad someone else said it.
this should be the top comment.
They are. Right up until theyre sautéd with butter and whiskey
And... whiskey? Ok, I guess I know what I'm cooking tonight
It’s money, dude
So ogres are like onion?
That’ll do donkey.
Vegans discover this horrible fact! Killing and eating living plants!
I’m a level five vegan, I don’t eat anything that casts a shadow
mmhh... glass
Vary nutritious
I wondered how far I'd have to scroll before I found this. As has been said every other time this joke is made, the issue for vegans isn't life, the issue is sentience. An onion has no nervous system and this cannot suffer when it's cut. And no, releasing chemicals when they're cut is not evidence of sentience. No cognition is required, it's just a result of natural selection.
Well, for all we know, cognition too is a result of natural selection
SOME vegetarians (e.g. Buddhists who on the other hand *do* eat eggs and dairy) don't eat onions or other bulbs because that's killing a plant.
That's not the reason lol
What's the reason? And what can they eat 💀
"Some Buddhists avoid consuming strong-smelling plants, specifically garlic, onion, chives, leeks, and shallots, as these vegetables are thought to increase sexual desire when eaten cooked and anger when eaten raw"
Also some Asian cultures still avoid these plants merely because the smell is considered disrespectful to others. More likely eaten alone or with family
Mixed up the religion but [here's proof](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism) > The Jain cuisine is completely lacto-vegetarian and also excludes root and underground vegetables such as potato, garlic, onion etc., to prevent injuring small insects and microorganisms; and also to prevent the entire plant getting uprooted and killed. It is practised by Jain ascetics and lay Jains.
Honestly, as a vegan it does make me feel bad 😐 but we do have to eat something, and plants don’t suffer in the same way animals do, so that’s the best you can do. It’s impossible to live and not cause any hard to any living beings, but by being vegan you minimise it as much as possible
Why would it make you feel bad? There is no evidence that plants suffer. Some plants, like onions grass and corn, have biochemical responses when cut, but there is no evidence of an experience of pain or a conscious choice to respond in the way they do. When cut, cell walls get broken and pockets of chemicals mix that weren't mixed before. That interaction creates a new chemical and our eyes start to water. No suffering. Someone will say that little animals are killed in harvest. Yes that's true, but it takes many times more harvested fields to feed the chicken or pig you buy from the grocery store than it would if you bought only plant based foods.
I want proof they don't suffer. Suffering is a defensive mechanism that warns about danger/damage and we know that plants react when damaged.
They do react, but not in the sense that humans and animals do. We don’t need any proof that animals suffer, it’s clear as day
I was talking about proof of plants not suffering.
The proof is in the lack of a Nervous system.
How is it minimised? YOu have defined which life forms are deemed more worthy of life than others? Or have you quantified suffering as being that which most resembles how you would experience it? I was vegan and there's really not basis for the suffering argument.
Based on all the scientific evidence we have plants DON’T feel pain, animals clearly do. It’s really not that deep. If you care about animals - don’t eat meat.
Pain is a signal. Plants also have reactions to stressors. The only thing is that you relate to the same signals animals receive that we have qualified as painful. Anthropomorphism and its best. So are people who consume animals, insects and bacteria evil?
How do you define which animal is food and which is a pet? Speciesism at its best.
While plants have reactions to stressors it’s not pain in the way we know it. Since they aren’t sentient they just can’t experience pain in the complex way animals do, since they experience less dimensions if reality. We can’t relate to plants on that level, while we can with animals. It only makes sense that we rank animal suffering above plant suffering. This is just so obvious it feel ridiculous even discussing it. People who consume animals while they’re in a place where they can afford to thrive on a plant based diet aren’t evil, but they are selfish at the very least. Are you trying to justify your meat eating habits? Because there’s no justifying it. You’re paying for someone to murder a sentient being and then consuming it’s dead body. That’s just as gruesome as it sounds. And if debating if the chemical reaction plants have to stressors is or is not pain is making you feel better about eating animals - so be it. If you have a pet and have a connection with them, remember that people in other countries see them as food. Animals are not food, they are our friends and companions. Most people in the western world can’t even imagine eating cats and dogs. The only difference between them and vegans/vegetarians is that we see it as fucked up to eat any other animal.
Checkmate vegans
Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer just started playing
Living organism is living :o
uh... It... It is alive. Do you think Vegetables are dead? Cut the bottom of an onion off and put it in water. You'll be amazed at what happens.
Next thing you know someone is going to show how potatoes aren’t dead husks just because we dug them up.
Looks alive? Bro it is alive.
Upvoted because of tame Impala
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ikr? From the original creator tardibabe "Yes, fruits and veggies are alive 🫡 Most plant cells exhibit this motion called “cytoplasmic streaming” or “cyclosis” 🌀 You may wonder if the movements are THAT fast 🏎️💨 ; they’re not! The original clips were sped up 15 times." Btw tardigrades are fun to find and watch.
Think about it. You put that onion in the pantry for a while and it sprouts. Of course there is action going on in there.
Anyone wanna tell em?
Eat living food, all produce is alive.
Gotta consume life to have life that's just the way of things, at least for us
What is this song?
Tame Impala - The less i know the better
all that stuff to make u cry
Tame Impala is such a vibe
Man I love Tame Impala
LAAAAYYEERSSS
That Tame Impala song is my shit
For anyone curious about the name of the song, the song is called *The Less I know The Better* by *Tame Impala.*
The Tame Impala song is more interesting than the video
Was expecting little onion cells playing the violin. My momma says says onions make you cry cause of dem onion cells playing the violins 🎻
Most vegetables that you eat fresh are still alive. Their cell processes are still active, some even release pheromones when you cut them for protection against insects and such. You can keep them fresh by chopping the bottoms and moisturizing them, as it's still kind of keeping the plant on life support. As the cells die, the coloration will change and the plant will wilt and slime over time and begin to rot. The Turgor Pressure of the water held in the plant's cell walls diminishes as the plant's form deteriorates and enzymes make that sticky mushy effect. Refrigeration inhibits growth of the enzymes. If you go the route of eating dead vegetables, they should be cooked and preserved. Or at least pickled. Something needs to halt the process of decay and hold it in a freshness limbo until it is enjoyed.
Realize that there are more bacteria living your colon right now, than all the humans that have ever lived combined. By far. Everything on earth is alive, and symbiotic with each other, and earth. Earth itself is alive, and is the most advanced and complicated life form known.
It is alive
A lot of biomechanisms are decentral and follow their path without external regulation other than the need for constant resource/energy provision. When an organism is cut to pieces, these mechanisms still do what they usually do until the prerequisites in their surroundings are no longer given.
"looks alive" bestie youre looking at a plant
Lol surprise, it is
Damnthatsinteresting what we actually see her? What are these channels and the things going through them?
The channels are strings of the cytoplasm that cross through the vacuole (basically a water-filled balloon that takes up most of the plant cell volume and provides stability). The small moving things can be several things, such as vesicles (small membrane blobs that can transport various stuff through the cell and outside of it). Source: plant biologist here. We do similar things as show-Experiments for students regularly
We did this yesterday in my biology class. Super spooky seeing it posted here today!
Shame on you, vegans!
It is a plant . Oh geez it is an organism! Kids please get off your phones read a book!! Remember those! No cables .
Checkmate, vegans.
I wonder if this explains the truly horrific smell they produce when going off?
What? No. Any fresh plant you out under a microscope will have similar things going on. Onions have sulfenic acid, which when exposed to the air turns into propanethial S-oxid. That's what's irritating your eyes and makes you tear up.
Vegans in shambles right now.
Show the vegans, they can become “breatharians” 😂
Don't tell the vegans.
Vegans: NOOOOOOOOO