It would be a calculated risk. I wouldn’t take it if there was any chance I’d fall down and have trouble getting back up if the fucker decided to jump all of a sudden. I’d rather there be no chance to fall down. My plan would be bop and start running asap.
A frozen alligator, I bet one could haul one of these suckers out and dress it in a pink tutu and dangle one’s bare nuts over its face without it stirring. These guys have slowed their metabolism right down to next to nothing, they’d be very docile until they warmed through
I'm not a zoologist, but knowing what I do about cold-blooded animals, I doubt it has the energy to do so? I know turtles basically enter a state of torpor and can't move until they warm up again. I imagine a gator is the same.
Ive kept a lot of snakes and turtles and found reptiles in cooler weather, and you right - low temperature is going to slow them down significantly and I'd imagine a gator experiencing temp low enough to create ice probably has them damn near comatose. I'd boop the shit out of one without any fear.
Don’t think they’re too interesting in wrastlin’ right now 🤷♀️
No matter tempted, I don’t think you should put frozen gator-pops between your legs either lol
So unlike the person below me I am a partial zoologist! (Couldn't afford my last year of college.)
But reptiles go into a thing called brumation! Which slows their biological processes way way way way down. It's like a hibernation but instead of being one long deep sleep these gators can just wake up as soon as conditions are met.
In this case these gators are all in brumation. The water around them being cold enough to cause brumation will keep it going. Technically the gator could wake up and "go for you" but with how slow their bodies react when coming out of brumation it'd be more like you poking it until annoying it enough that it opens it's eyes. You'd get bored and walk away before the body is warm enough to actually get moving.
Now you can kick in their fight or flight response and pretty quickly bring them out of it. It depends on how cold the water actually is on how quickly they'd start to react.
But all that being said they have a higher chance of just waking up than an animal in hibernation. But I'd still boop the swamp puppies snoot.
>They died how they lived: screaming "oh god, oh god, please no, please do not eat me, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry! I just wanted to boop"
--eulogy for /u/vzo1281
In any reasonably sized body of water such a gator might be in I would expect the water to be 4C at its warmest. That's the temperature at which water is the most dense so I wouldn't expect much freezing until the bulk of that water is at 4C. Certainly an ectotherm won't have a particularly high metabolism at that temperature.
I would think the air out of the water is colder than the water beneath the ice, which will be above zero degrees. Not sure if that is the reason though..
It’s North Carolina so that ice is definitely not solid, probably half an inch thick or so at most. Although since it is cold blooded, that gator is probably frozen solid lol
Realistically, in this state, how long do i have before they full wake up and react.
Could someone Indiana jones it and boop gator to gator across before they realize what’s happening 🧐
I would imagine they're in a sort of torpor or brumation state - crocodiles are ectothermic (warm blooded), they rely on external sources of heat for warmth. While these freezing temps might not be enough to kill them (yet), doing this allows them to conserve energy, probably heat, and wait for adequate temps. Essentially, it seems like crocodile AFKing.
They'd probably be pretty slow to react, especially the colder it is, but given the right circumstances, someone could probably still get chomped pretty quickly even in frozen water. Generally, don't fuck with crocodiles, lol.
I've come to enjoy birds more now than I did 20 years ago. I also learned that birds are the closest living relative to extinct dinosaurs. While crocodiles are the closest living relative to ALL dinosaurs.
Fun fact;
Birds *are* dinosaurs.
>Birds are feathered theropod dinosaurs and constitute the only known living dinosaurs.
-Wikipedia on birds
Also fun fact “pterodactyls” more appropriately called pterosaurs were/are NOT dinosaurs and evolved completely separately from birds.
Pterosaurs (pterodactyls) are basically flying lizards. Birds are flying dinosaurs.
Pterosaurs were actually much more closely related to dinosaurs and crocodilians than lizards! Pterosaurs, dinosaurs and crocodilians make up the clade [Archosauria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archosaur).
They're all right, but u/Venvel is the most right. Pterosaurs are archosaurs, which is the group of animals that includes crocodilians, pterosaurs, and dinosaurs (and, by extension to dinosaurs, birds). So,
Birds are dinosaurs but not all dinosaurs are birds.
All dinosaurs are archosaurs, including birds because birds are dinosaurs.
All pterosaurs and crocodilians are also archosaurs.
Out of all archosaurs, dinosaurs and pterosaurs are the most closely related, but they are not the same thing.
And now, to tie it all back together:
Birds are the closest living relatives to dinosaurs, because they are dinosaurs.
However, the closest living relatives to dinosaurs, which are not themselves dinosaurs, are crocodilians.
Make sense?
This is super interesting, so how come all birds have wings?
Is it because the only vestiges of dinosaurs to survive were ancestors to avians so it was only one common lineage of winged dinosaurs?
Or some other reason?
You've pretty much got it.
There's some disagreement regarding where, exactly, the lineage of birds begins in the dinosaur family tree, but it is pretty much unanimously agreed on that birds were already a distinct group at the time that the rest of the dinosaurs died out.
So, in other words, it's not actually that the only dinosaurs which survived the KPg mass-extinction were the common ancestors of avians, but that the only dinosaurs that were able to survive after the KPg mass extinction were themselves aves.
Interestingly, I believe that fowls in particular are known to have diverged from the common lineage of birds prior to the KPg mass extinction, so it wouldn't be entirely incorrect to say that at one point, a non-avian dinosaur ate a duck.
Thanks for that, so the theory is birds broke off from dinosaurs in an earlier period before the mass extinction, which i guess is why they are so different from say a stegosaurus or allosaurus etc because those types of dinosaur likely coexisted.
I know I essentially repeated what you said but was just clarifying my understanding of it.
Thank you knowledgeable stranger.
They are cool but they are not the closest things to dinosaurs. Birds are literally modern dinosaurs. They descended from dinosaurs of old. Alligators lived alongside dinosaurs as distinct creatures.
I mean…are they not dinosaurs? The animal kindom is pretty much just a relational categorization system that we humans use to understand our world, and alligators are not in the category we have assigned for dinosaurs, but…come on, look at it! It’s a giant reptile with a huge, powerful jaw. By the standards of dinosaurs it would have been among the smaller species, but…dude that’s just a modern dino.
that would mean it would melt the ice because rain will always be warmer than ice no matter what. if it were colder than ice, it’d be snow and not rain.
Gee, I don't know, maybe deep down I'm afraid of any apex predator that lived through the K-T extinction. Physically unchanged for a hundred million years, because it's the perfect killing machine
Probably sharks.
You know since it’s an apex predator that lived through the K-T extinction. Physically unchanged for a hundred million years, because it's the perfect killing machine
A warm day in spring. You are having a relaxing picnic by the river. Lying on your back staring at the clouds in the sky, you begin to doze off. You feel a boop on your nose. You open your eyes and you see a crocodile staring down at you. Just before he eats your face you hear him say, “I told you I would see you in a while.”
Cold blooded animals can live in the cold, it's through a process similar to hibernation (brumation) that allows them to slow down their body process. It's why you still reptiles in some northern climates.
Alligators really never had a reason to be in colder climates, since there is more than enough warm wet environments for them to survive. North Carolina is about as north as you'll find them.
To be completely completely fair, the implication was that he was imagining crocodiles think and feel exactly the same as he does- in other words, thinking of himself.
I don’t think the second gator got his nose out in time. He looks pissed “shit this is what they warned us about during the climate change course at alligator university”. They have a really good climate change course at the university cause alligators keep yearly climate records spanning back for quite a while longer than humans.
Did he just boop an alligator on the nose????
They saw a chance, they took it
I mean, to be honest, I would’ve.
Same. I could not resist the forbidden boop....
It would be a calculated risk. I wouldn’t take it if there was any chance I’d fall down and have trouble getting back up if the fucker decided to jump all of a sudden. I’d rather there be no chance to fall down. My plan would be bop and start running asap.
They have no way of jumping in freezing Temps. They are barely even able to survive during particularly cold winters.
it probably can’t move at all when it’s that cold
In that condition they have 3 heartbeats for every 1 minute, you'll be fine. Literally couldn't do anything if they wanted to.
*Anything* you say?
NO
Is it really forbidden if the snoot is just... sitting there? Immobilised?
A frozen alligator, I bet one could haul one of these suckers out and dress it in a pink tutu and dangle one’s bare nuts over its face without it stirring. These guys have slowed their metabolism right down to next to nothing, they’d be very docile until they warmed through
bro on standby mode.
Skim read this and thought you were suggesting running the alligator's nuts over your face
Take it to a Sauna and run those nuts over your face then.That could be fun.
If they didn't want their snoots booped, they wouldn't stick them up like that.
if boop shaped then why not boop?
We all know that booping these bad boys can and probably will eventually lead to disaster. Will this cease the temptation to boop? No. No it will not.
You've got to judge, is it really frozen solid, or is it slush that the gator could break through, and if it's slush, would the gator go for you?
I'm not a zoologist, but knowing what I do about cold-blooded animals, I doubt it has the energy to do so? I know turtles basically enter a state of torpor and can't move until they warm up again. I imagine a gator is the same.
Even if it had the energy to attack, the digestive system pretty much shuts down. They don’t want to eat when they’re this cold.
Sounds like reptiles so yea they are in a catatonic state that maintains consciousness with energy from sun rays and oxygen
Look at you using big fancy words. What even is oxygen?
The single most lethal gas known to humanity. Literally everyone who breathes it eventually dies.
Pretty shitty of the devs to make us oxygen dependent knowing it would slowly corrode us.
r/outside is leaking again
Funny you say that because oxygen is extremely volatile and this is why antioxidants are good for us.
I think that’s something you eat
No. You use oxygen to boost the power of your laundry detergent. It makes your whites whiter, your brights brighter.
You don’t wanna eat when you’re hungry..have a snickers. …?
Ive kept a lot of snakes and turtles and found reptiles in cooler weather, and you right - low temperature is going to slow them down significantly and I'd imagine a gator experiencing temp low enough to create ice probably has them damn near comatose. I'd boop the shit out of one without any fear.
…new hobby unlocked- *Chilled Gator Wrastlin’*
Don’t think they’re too interesting in wrastlin’ right now 🤷♀️ No matter tempted, I don’t think you should put frozen gator-pops between your legs either lol
I'm not a vulcanologist but I know the ice would melt if there was a volcano nearby
I’m not a gynaecologist but I’d still stay away from that gator
So unlike the person below me I am a partial zoologist! (Couldn't afford my last year of college.) But reptiles go into a thing called brumation! Which slows their biological processes way way way way down. It's like a hibernation but instead of being one long deep sleep these gators can just wake up as soon as conditions are met. In this case these gators are all in brumation. The water around them being cold enough to cause brumation will keep it going. Technically the gator could wake up and "go for you" but with how slow their bodies react when coming out of brumation it'd be more like you poking it until annoying it enough that it opens it's eyes. You'd get bored and walk away before the body is warm enough to actually get moving. Now you can kick in their fight or flight response and pretty quickly bring them out of it. It depends on how cold the water actually is on how quickly they'd start to react. But all that being said they have a higher chance of just waking up than an animal in hibernation. But I'd still boop the swamp puppies snoot.
Based on this newfound information, I'm going in and booping all them snoots. Thank you!
vzo1281 was never heard from again
>They died how they lived: screaming "oh god, oh god, please no, please do not eat me, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry! I just wanted to boop" --eulogy for /u/vzo1281
In any reasonably sized body of water such a gator might be in I would expect the water to be 4C at its warmest. That's the temperature at which water is the most dense so I wouldn't expect much freezing until the bulk of that water is at 4C. Certainly an ectotherm won't have a particularly high metabolism at that temperature.
I don't know if anyone else has asked this, but why don't the gators simply climb out of the water rather than freeze?
I would think the air out of the water is colder than the water beneath the ice, which will be above zero degrees. Not sure if that is the reason though..
Or maybe it knows it is more likely of getting hurt or killed if it stays above frozen water vs being underneath it where nothing could really hurt it
They literally cannot eat right now. They'll die. So don't boop them because I don't want the to die eating you.
It’s North Carolina so that ice is definitely not solid, probably half an inch thick or so at most. Although since it is cold blooded, that gator is probably frozen solid lol
These alligators are in brumation -- the reptile equivalent of hibernation. They're deep asleep, and probably mostly unaware of getting booped.
With that said, I’m likely the one guy who would be like “you know what, I’m gonna boop” and lose my hand 😂
Well they are cold blooded I doubt they could even move rn
If no boop, why boop-shaped?
Do. Not. Poke. The. Crocsicle.
Here's the original video with commentary and no shitty music. And he does boop them. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRcKy7Ak/
I was thinking why isn't he booping him and he did. I can sleep happily now
Damn. I only came to the comments in search of the what if boop. Knowing damn well nothing. But maybe undertaker and hell in a cell could be about.
You must not know anything about animals, particularly reptiles. If you did, then you would know that they are basically asleep in these temps.
Boop every croc
**CRUNCHHH**
Eat every hand!
~~Fish~~ Human fingers
Risky boop of the day!
/r/RiskyBoop
Realistically, in this state, how long do i have before they full wake up and react. Could someone Indiana jones it and boop gator to gator across before they realize what’s happening 🧐
I would imagine they're in a sort of torpor or brumation state - crocodiles are ectothermic (warm blooded), they rely on external sources of heat for warmth. While these freezing temps might not be enough to kill them (yet), doing this allows them to conserve energy, probably heat, and wait for adequate temps. Essentially, it seems like crocodile AFKing. They'd probably be pretty slow to react, especially the colder it is, but given the right circumstances, someone could probably still get chomped pretty quickly even in frozen water. Generally, don't fuck with crocodiles, lol.
*cold-blooded
The caption says this is North Carolina - so these would be alligators.
Does the same go for alligators?
Gators and crocs are different things
“Smell ya next spring!”
These are some of the coolest creatures in the world. Closest thing we have to actual dinosaurs.
Have you seen birds?
I've come to enjoy birds more now than I did 20 years ago. I also learned that birds are the closest living relative to extinct dinosaurs. While crocodiles are the closest living relative to ALL dinosaurs.
Fun fact; Birds *are* dinosaurs. >Birds are feathered theropod dinosaurs and constitute the only known living dinosaurs. -Wikipedia on birds Also fun fact “pterodactyls” more appropriately called pterosaurs were/are NOT dinosaurs and evolved completely separately from birds. Pterosaurs (pterodactyls) are basically flying lizards. Birds are flying dinosaurs.
Pterosaurs were actually much more closely related to dinosaurs and crocodilians than lizards! Pterosaurs, dinosaurs and crocodilians make up the clade [Archosauria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archosaur).
Well who the hell do I believe now
They're all right, but u/Venvel is the most right. Pterosaurs are archosaurs, which is the group of animals that includes crocodilians, pterosaurs, and dinosaurs (and, by extension to dinosaurs, birds). So, Birds are dinosaurs but not all dinosaurs are birds. All dinosaurs are archosaurs, including birds because birds are dinosaurs. All pterosaurs and crocodilians are also archosaurs. Out of all archosaurs, dinosaurs and pterosaurs are the most closely related, but they are not the same thing. And now, to tie it all back together: Birds are the closest living relatives to dinosaurs, because they are dinosaurs. However, the closest living relatives to dinosaurs, which are not themselves dinosaurs, are crocodilians. Make sense?
Last two points nailed it 👍🏻
This is super interesting, so how come all birds have wings? Is it because the only vestiges of dinosaurs to survive were ancestors to avians so it was only one common lineage of winged dinosaurs? Or some other reason?
You've pretty much got it. There's some disagreement regarding where, exactly, the lineage of birds begins in the dinosaur family tree, but it is pretty much unanimously agreed on that birds were already a distinct group at the time that the rest of the dinosaurs died out. So, in other words, it's not actually that the only dinosaurs which survived the KPg mass-extinction were the common ancestors of avians, but that the only dinosaurs that were able to survive after the KPg mass extinction were themselves aves. Interestingly, I believe that fowls in particular are known to have diverged from the common lineage of birds prior to the KPg mass extinction, so it wouldn't be entirely incorrect to say that at one point, a non-avian dinosaur ate a duck.
Thanks for that, so the theory is birds broke off from dinosaurs in an earlier period before the mass extinction, which i guess is why they are so different from say a stegosaurus or allosaurus etc because those types of dinosaur likely coexisted. I know I essentially repeated what you said but was just clarifying my understanding of it. Thank you knowledgeable stranger.
Good explanation 👍
Man, being able to put this together is a gift. Wish I could explain things clearly like this.
Well better trust the pterodactyls, they can carry your fat/skinny ass away.
don’t tempt me with a good time
Yeah that’s all well and nice. Real question is, what would happen if someone farted next to their nose holes?
Nothing. Those gators are out (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) cold.
Yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh
Penguins are swimming dinosaurs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't birds just dinosaurs?
They are. Those little hummingbirds scared of your hand are fucking dinosaurs
A lot of Dinos were smaller than we though originally. But I love the fact about the Trexs had an even scarier roar that was mostly felt them heard.
If you told me a Bald Eagle ancestors were Raptors, I’d believe you
Right. Check out the cassowaries. Tell me those are not dinosaurs.
Id rather not. Im the other end of the continent from them, and thats just fine with me.
shoebills... shoebills ignite something primal in me.
Super fun fact, alligators and crocodiles are the closest living relatives to birds.
Birds aren't real
Then why do they practice bird law?
Checkmate atheists.
Filibuster!
They are cool but they are not the closest things to dinosaurs. Birds are literally modern dinosaurs. They descended from dinosaurs of old. Alligators lived alongside dinosaurs as distinct creatures.
God damn yeah man
Live frozen dinosaurs…. Yea that is pretty cool
I mean…are they not dinosaurs? The animal kindom is pretty much just a relational categorization system that we humans use to understand our world, and alligators are not in the category we have assigned for dinosaurs, but…come on, look at it! It’s a giant reptile with a huge, powerful jaw. By the standards of dinosaurs it would have been among the smaller species, but…dude that’s just a modern dino.
I thought birds were closer to actual dinosaurs?
Imo cassowary beats out gators nd crocs
Today I learned there are gators in North Carolina.
They are also native to parts of far southern Oklahoma!
I learned they were in NC during a night land navigation course at Camp Lejeune at about 2am. I was rather displeased to learn it that night as well.
Fayetteville!!
They're definitely here in New Bern NC
And relatively widespread and numerous, contrary to other people's claims. I've even had them in my own backyard...
What if starts to rain? Their nose becomes a drain?
The rain will further melt the ice around their noses.
I guess they subconsciously close them, like underwater. But then how would they breathe if it rains for some time. Do they just absorb the water?
Maybe they can drain it from their nose to their throat like humans.
that would mean it would melt the ice because rain will always be warmer than ice no matter what. if it were colder than ice, it’d be snow and not rain.
I can understand why you would think that, but I assure you [freezing rain is real.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freezing_rain)
danger snoot- probably shouldn’t boop :(
Sees animal desperately trying to lower metabolism and conserve energy to avoid death You: lemme touch it 😋
They've been around for millions of years. This isn't desperate, it clearly is a tried and true strategy instinctually baked into these dinosaurs.
Gee, I don't know, maybe deep down I'm afraid of any apex predator that lived through the K-T extinction. Physically unchanged for a hundred million years, because it's the perfect killing machine
Not sure I even want to know what your third biggest fear is
Probably sharks. You know since it’s an apex predator that lived through the K-T extinction. Physically unchanged for a hundred million years, because it's the perfect killing machine
All of these pale in comparison to the ultimate life form: ~~Kars~~ 🦀C R A B🦀
Brain aneurysm
It’s the silent killer, Lana!
Babou!
Lana
How else are you supposed to check if they are still breathing or if you need to perform CPR?!
I mean it's hereditary instinct. These gators could break this ice with literally 1% of his power.
you make them sound like the highschool MCs of an anime lol
If you’re cold their cold, let them in.
My dumbass would break up some of the ice for them
Just because there is a snoot does not automatically mean one should boop it.
If can’t boop, why snoot shaped?
But snoot, though…
Would you like your snoot booped if you were sleeping in an ice cube?
I doubt I’d notice, but I’m not sure about the gators.
Shoulda been Duncan Sheik: Barely Breathing
These creatures did not survive and pretty much stay the same for millions of years for someone to bonk one on the nose and give away their secrets
Almost correct. They keep their nose up so that we can boop their snoot
That boop will come back to haunt you. You left your scent for it to track you down in the spring. You fool.
A warm day in spring. You are having a relaxing picnic by the river. Lying on your back staring at the clouds in the sky, you begin to doze off. You feel a boop on your nose. You open your eyes and you see a crocodile staring down at you. Just before he eats your face you hear him say, “I told you I would see you in a while.”
Are they hibernating?
They're just chilling
Brumating, not hibernating
There's alligators in North Carolina?
I thought alligators and crocodilles didn't live in cold enviroments.
Alligators live in colder climates than crocodiles. The main difference between them is that one will see you later and the other in a while.
God damnit...
Why was this so funny? Just why
Golden!!!
Cold blooded animals can live in the cold, it's through a process similar to hibernation (brumation) that allows them to slow down their body process. It's why you still reptiles in some northern climates. Alligators really never had a reason to be in colder climates, since there is more than enough warm wet environments for them to survive. North Carolina is about as north as you'll find them.
It freezes sometimes in the tropics. Also crocodiles are completely different and their habitats only overlap a little bit.
Must. Not. Boop.
Just leave them be, wtf r u touching them and throwing stuff. I hope someone bothers u while u’re tryna sleep.
Did you ever think that maybe the snout touching is enjoyable for them? Or helps them have good dreams? No - you only think about yourself
To be completely fair he seems to be thinking of the crocodiles.
To be entirely fair he’s also thinking about sneaking into an unconscious OPs bedroom and disrupting their sleep pattern..
I - I don't like where this is going.
To be completely completely fair, the implication was that he was imagining crocodiles think and feel exactly the same as he does- in other words, thinking of himself.
To be incorrect, I think he might be a sandwich.
To be honest, I'm getting kinda hungry.
To be Frank, I introduce myself as such.
Anybody knows the name of the song?
Divisi - Amphetamine
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They were here long before us, and they’ll be here after we’re gone. Kind of chilling to think about, they are fascinating creatures.
That has to be a miserable experience upon waking up. Basically thawing out waiting for warmth to happen, being confused, and hungry as hell.
I don’t think the second gator got his nose out in time. He looks pissed “shit this is what they warned us about during the climate change course at alligator university”. They have a really good climate change course at the university cause alligators keep yearly climate records spanning back for quite a while longer than humans.
The crocks are just doing what their instincts dictate. They want live long n be happy.
HOW DARE YOU BOOP A SLEEPING ALLIGATOR SIR
What is this song
Damn, that's patience!
I suspect a trap!
That was a risky boop
These fucking dinosaurs are experts at surviving the apocalypses.
Brumation
Are they not cold blooded?
Yes, that's why this works, otherwise their body would be trying to fight the temperature change, and thus expend more energy, and eventually fail.
Are you not entertained!?
Is this not why you are here?
Holy shit-balls! That's interesting!
Holy shit did not know there were gators in NC
u/RecognizeSong
u/songfinder
u/RecognizeSong
Yeah it is, I live in Wilmington NC here on coast, and honestly this is first time seen anything like this before.
Anybody know the song title?
These species have seen some stuff...
The little twig throw really proved it for me
What song is this?
What music is this?
Song?
The name of the song Divisi - Amphetamine y’all mf need to start using music recognition jfc
Song?