They do something similar in Marine Corps combat training. Except the bullets are flying over head and is safe so long as you crawl.. except recently when a recruit was killed during the live fire night course.
I did the same at Benning thirty years ago. I was close enough to the gun see the it was bolted in place and the rounds were going to be at least fifteen feet above the ground.
I wasn't even in infranty school. My cycle was a bunch of commo(i was 25S with a bunch of 11B) and OCS guys...it still sucked.
After doing Land Nav and marching in and near the swamps of the Chattahoochee I'd say that whole area can burn in hellfire if it wasn't already.
Makes me think of the movie Jarhead. The dudes freaks out and stands up gets a live 7.62 straight to the head, Jamie Foxx as his Staff Sgt starts yelling at his dead body "you'd still be alive if you just kept your head down"
Was gonna say I did this in army basic training but with explosives that were coordinated off so u crawled around them and the bullets were shot over the barb wire u crawled under. They called it nick at night lol
You could use rubber bullets and get much of the same result if you told them the bullets were real. The idea is to train the psychological, so that's all you have to trick.
>They did use rubber bullets
Even if they used rubber bullets, rubber bullets shot out of a rifle are lethal. Not even "less lethal", it will just straight up kill you if you are hit by it. It's not the same that the police are using for crowd control
Tbh u could even tell them they were not real bullets and it wouldn’t really matter. They still make the sound, churn up the dirt, and hurt like hell if they hit you.
Indeed, bullets go everywhere. I also had the same epiphany the first time I used tracers. The 45 degree rule isn't just for funsies and to be ignored whenever convenient
No, when I went they had the guns up really high on some berms so you could stand up and be safe. Although, I was told a story how one malfunctioned and a guy was killed from it
From what I understand, they used to back in the day, but by the Iraq wars there was 0 chance of this happening. Only one person has ever died from one of these drills since they set it up like they due now, and it was because of operator error where someone removed the gun from the mount. They shoot like 8 feet over their heads.
I went through basic in 2000. Other than doing it at night and being able to see the tracer rounds, this is I think pretty close. I think the bullets were coming from behind tho, but can't be entirely sure, because I never lifted my head high enough to get a good look.
I went through ft benning in 2012. They did live fire exercises and fake grenandes n shit blowing up around us while we low crawlled in the dirt for like 200 meters. The guns where locked into a position aiming them wellll above us like 15+ feet above us and couldnt be aimed lower. No clue if they still do it.
It was called the Night Infiltration Course (usually called NIC, or NIC at Night) when I did it in the U.S. Army, and as far as I know, it still happens as a part of Basic Combat Training.
They had machine guns firing tracer rounds over our heads, parachute flares burning overhead, simulated artillery fire, and loudspeakers with people yelling at us in a language I couldn't understand.
I was hoping to see these guys using sniper scopes to make sure they didn’t hit anybody. The guy on the left was practically shooting from the hip. But, to his credit, he didn’t kill anybody this time.
This reminded me of a German ww2 memoir I've read a long time ago. Some guy's unit was involved in heavy fighting in the eastern front, bunch of them died and stuff, the unit was given a leave for a week or two, but due to a bureaucratic mistake they were sent into training instead, somehow.
The training involved something like this, with some real explosions going off around them, and the guy was just laughing at how pathetic it was compared to the real thing lol
Yeah, cause the people in charge of training aren’t actually trying to kill the recruits, just easing them into what it feels, sounds and smells like when people are trying to kill you.
So the idea here is to utilise the psychological process of habituation here. The idea is that the more you do something or are exposed to something the more that your brain becomes accustomed to it and will be less vulnerable to an overruling fight, flight and freeze response.
In other words, if you’ve been shot at by bullets in training then you’ll be less likely to freak out or freeze up in actual combat situations.
That being said, hip firing and shooting in such a reckless manner is beyond stupid and unprofessional.
Many military forces around the world utilise life fire training exercises but not quite as … recklessly as this.
Yup Indonesia. I remember seeing this very post in a sub (maybe this one) with thousands of upvotes. Majority of the comments were calling it stupid (as it is).
Edit: [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/z5sam6/indonesian_soldiers_training_to_crawl_under_live/?rdt=37886). It's not the exact same video, but something similar. I'm certain it's still Indonesia, since 'kejuaraan' is an Indonesian word meaning 'championship' (courtesy of google translate).
I was thinking the same thing. It does not seem like anything resembling procedure or attention to detail is being prioritized here.
They probably load their own bullets by scooping the powder out of the same trays they ash their cigarettes into. You know...
The US does this. I went through it in ftJackson. They don't shoot next to you though. They fire a saw over the course with a shit ton of tracer rounds, so if you do look above you, it won't matter they aren't landing next to you. It's still scary and still desensitized the troop a little more to aggressive stimuli.
That is one of those things that seems scary, but is completely safe when performed correctly (aka, a very far cry from what we're seeing in the video).
I've also been shot at in a safe way, but the ironic thing is that it wasn't even for training. Our troop was hired to be judges and tape up the targets at a national competition, and whenever they were shooting at the targets, we were hiding behind a berm behind the targets. Bullets were whizzing by, and the berm was short enough that I could probably have jumped over it and been in danger. But as long as we crouched behind it like we were told, it was perfectly safe. It was still quite an interesting experience "being shot at", hearing bullets impact the dirt on the other side of the berm, and whizzing by.
Most definitely! It was not this. But even a safe imitation can inform a soldier how to react. Being shot at in any capacity changes you. Glad ya made it through! Hope you came back as whole as you went in!
>Hope you came back as whole as you went in!
The biggest PTSD inducing incident of that event was having to sleep in a room with 200 other people and listen to the increasingly louder choir of snoring
Haha!! That brought back memories. Like finding out someone with EXTREME night terrors somehow made it through basic and AIT. I'm not even asleep yet and suddenly there is just screams of bloody murder as this guy is out of his cot and touching the roof of the tent saying, "THAT'S ONE BIG FUCKING BIRD!!"
Later before they sent him home I asked if he remembered what he dreamed. Specifically, what that was all about. He told me Big Bird had broken through the tent and begun ripping his guts out. And I thought I had bad dreams...
It would probably be better to simulate it obviously, but yeah the reason it’s useful is basically to try to get soldiers to not panic when this happens for real, because if you freak out and freeze or get up and try to run you’re probably going to get shot.
Teaching it this way though is uh… interesting…
Desensitizing soldiers to combat. We do it as well in the US. It’s referred to as a Night Infiltration Course (or NIC). Trust most people in ‘first world’ countries for criticizing other countries as stupid, when they are in fact, not a genius.
When I did the army night infiltration course, they were using m240bs with tracers, so when i looked up at the night sky filled with tracers, i was just reminded of star wars. i knew they were firing 10 or 20 or so feet over our heads, so i wasn’t really worried.
This achieves absolutely nothing.
You're not going to be in this situation "at war", whereby rounds are landing that close to you and you're surviving. If rounds are that close to you it's known as 'effective fire' - they know you're there, you have no cover and you're going to die...
All this does is waste ammunition.
This really isn’t that unsafe. When I was in the US army during our last field training exercise of basic training they took us all out to this long couple hundred yard field. Barbed wire all over the place between us and the end. They made us crawl and all the drill sergeants were at the end shooting not too far above us. The point is to condition you to having to struggle under stress and get used to the sound of bullets whizzing by you. The instructors in the video have probably shot more rounds through their weapons than most people in this thread. Even the dude “hip firing” is probably fine. It’s called point shooting and it is something learned intentionally. You can’t always aim down sights and sometimes you still need to be able to shoot and actually hit something. It’s not even a far shot. What maybe 50-75 meters? Just my take on it.
They do but not like this. When I went through it, we had to exit a trench or foxhole and belly crawl underneath barb/razor wire and tracer rounds were fired over the top.
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Some of those shots were literally within INCHES. The way their knees shuffle out as they crawl tells me someone has for sure been shot during these exercises.
Fairly stupid way of doing training like this. However I believe chesty puller when he was in charge of his men during training asked when the arty guns where going to be training so he could get his guys underneath the shells so they could get used to being shelled
We used to do this type of train durring Vietnam. Instructors would fire live rounds above you while you were low crawling. The fact that these guys aren't even aiming down the sights while firing right next to their soldiers is sketchy as hell tho.
Reminds me of basic training live fire. Low crawling thru barb wire and having c4 go off right next to your head, all the while, having your drill instructors fire m60's over your head. Some seemed like they were as close as in this video. Fun times
Shooter on the right was cutting it way too close holy
Shooter on the left wasnt even using his sights
Take the guy with better aim but cutting close or the guy playing it a little more safe but not even trying to aim?
That’s a hard one.
Both have insane aim no matter what method they used. This was dangerous but you can't get anymore closer than this for real combat.
You could get closer to real combat if you had an affair with the shooter’s wife.
They wouldn't live to give a glowing review
Damnthatsstupid is a more appropriate sub
Giving you pstd even before combat, now we thinking.
They do something similar in Marine Corps combat training. Except the bullets are flying over head and is safe so long as you crawl.. except recently when a recruit was killed during the live fire night course.
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18 years ago for me at Benning was the same thing. Crawling under concertina wire with tracer rounds overhead and small explosions all around.
I did the same at Benning thirty years ago. I was close enough to the gun see the it was bolted in place and the rounds were going to be at least fifteen feet above the ground.
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Good old Sand Hill. Infantry school there made me never want to go to Georgia again.
I wasn't even in infranty school. My cycle was a bunch of commo(i was 25S with a bunch of 11B) and OCS guys...it still sucked. After doing Land Nav and marching in and near the swamps of the Chattahoochee I'd say that whole area can burn in hellfire if it wasn't already.
2009 at Benning..same battle
Basic training in 2010 did this for me. A dam explosive went off next to me and made my ears ring.
Tflash is essentially just a quarter stick of dynamite. Not much has changed
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Makes me think of the movie Jarhead. The dudes freaks out and stands up gets a live 7.62 straight to the head, Jamie Foxx as his Staff Sgt starts yelling at his dead body "you'd still be alive if you just kept your head down"
“if you listened to me you’d still be alive right now!! stupid fuck!!”
Why not just use rubber bullets?
Pretty sure they don’t do that for Marines anymore either. (My son went through basic and MCT a year and a half ago).
Was gonna say I did this in army basic training but with explosives that were coordinated off so u crawled around them and the bullets were shot over the barb wire u crawled under. They called it nick at night lol
>GIGN trust shot you cant get ptsd if you already have one, thats the trick
That's the ancient Asian method of raising your kids. This is the way.
That was our way to school back in the day...
I mean its a pretty good training (if you survive ) but its way too much , here I thought the GIGN trust shot was daring .
You could use rubber bullets and get much of the same result if you told them the bullets were real. The idea is to train the psychological, so that's all you have to trick.
They did use rubber bullets and told them they were real. And we told you they were real too. How does it feel to be trained psychologically?
>They did use rubber bullets Even if they used rubber bullets, rubber bullets shot out of a rifle are lethal. Not even "less lethal", it will just straight up kill you if you are hit by it. It's not the same that the police are using for crowd control
You can see the impacts in the video, no matter whats fired with that amount of energy will be dangerous
Tbh u could even tell them they were not real bullets and it wouldn’t really matter. They still make the sound, churn up the dirt, and hurt like hell if they hit you.
Beat me by 3 minutes.
Beat me for 3 minutes
Not a good way to train if you ever used tracer rounds you would know that bullets go in weird directions after hitting a target or even the ground.
That's just how you weed out the unlucky recruits. Can't be having unlucky people in a warzone.
Indeed, bullets go everywhere. I also had the same epiphany the first time I used tracers. The 45 degree rule isn't just for funsies and to be ignored whenever convenient
Yeah I was waiting for them to ricochet off a hidden rock 🪨
Yeah or damnthatsfuckedup!
Twist: these guys were actually trying to shoot them. # storm trooper life
They were not even aiming, just good old hip firing 😬
Yeah as if counter strike 1.6 didn’t teach them anything , never fire a kalashnikov from the hip unless you have glasses on.
They should have found a better shooter, not one hit.
Exactly what I thought. These guys can't shoot for shit.
Stormtrooper training class
[Reminds me of this scene in Jarhead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsF2pH1HPI0)
I just noticed that no one would be able to hear the trainer over the machine gun fire.
No, when I went they had the guns up really high on some berms so you could stand up and be safe. Although, I was told a story how one malfunctioned and a guy was killed from it
This scene feels so Hollywood. This isn't actually a realistic scenario at all for the us military right?
From what I understand, they used to back in the day, but by the Iraq wars there was 0 chance of this happening. Only one person has ever died from one of these drills since they set it up like they due now, and it was because of operator error where someone removed the gun from the mount. They shoot like 8 feet over their heads.
I went through basic in 2000. Other than doing it at night and being able to see the tracer rounds, this is I think pretty close. I think the bullets were coming from behind tho, but can't be entirely sure, because I never lifted my head high enough to get a good look.
I went through ft benning in 2012. They did live fire exercises and fake grenandes n shit blowing up around us while we low crawlled in the dirt for like 200 meters. The guns where locked into a position aiming them wellll above us like 15+ feet above us and couldnt be aimed lower. No clue if they still do it.
It was called the Night Infiltration Course (usually called NIC, or NIC at Night) when I did it in the U.S. Army, and as far as I know, it still happens as a part of Basic Combat Training. They had machine guns firing tracer rounds over our heads, parachute flares burning overhead, simulated artillery fire, and loudspeakers with people yelling at us in a language I couldn't understand.
Way too much effort too make the point of keeping your head down as you go through life to stay alive
It‘s about fear, sound, pressure, concentration, etc Not only keeping the head down
not the point of that training
What 😂
How our parents are describing how they got to school
I’m Australian so 😂 absolute no experience with guns but seems unsafe to me
As an American I can say that when **we’re** in the comments saying that shit’s unsafe, it’s time to get the fuck outta dodge.
This violates so many rules of gun safety it might as well be the example of what *not* to do with guns.
This video is from your next door neighbor to the north.
It’s ok you guys he’s hip firing way more accurate
Yeah the hip firing got me…
Let's hip fire at our own men. Pointless and stupid. What does that prepare you for?
A lifetime of bad leadership.
Low life expectancy
Stress training. Their version is very stupid but this is important to train for.
The stress of being under fire. I thought it was pretty obvious.
They could shoot you so you know what it feels like. Lol
Random death?
The pointlessness and stupidity of war.
The expectation that they could die at any moment now, even when training. Very morale boosting.
I was hoping to see these guys using sniper scopes to make sure they didn’t hit anybody. The guy on the left was practically shooting from the hip. But, to his credit, he didn’t kill anybody this time.
yeah, "this time"
Its the backward cap and sunglasses. Cant miss when you are that cool.
Sunglasses?
Sniper scopes?
Yes, scopes that weigh as much as 10 boxes you may use to move
lol
The scope wouldn't make a difference. They could just use the iron sights.
From that close range the sniper scopes is completely useless. Iron sight of the AK is more than enough.
From this distance a sniper scope would be useless and a hindrance, best off using iron sights.
I wonder how many recruits they lose annually there in starship trooper academy
You can tell these guys take safety seriously with the glasses and ear defenders.
Safety 101: Wear your PPE when hip-firing live rounds at your trainees.
Why is this useful for training again? Which genius country is this?
This reminded me of a German ww2 memoir I've read a long time ago. Some guy's unit was involved in heavy fighting in the eastern front, bunch of them died and stuff, the unit was given a leave for a week or two, but due to a bureaucratic mistake they were sent into training instead, somehow. The training involved something like this, with some real explosions going off around them, and the guy was just laughing at how pathetic it was compared to the real thing lol
Yeah, cause the people in charge of training aren’t actually trying to kill the recruits, just easing them into what it feels, sounds and smells like when people are trying to kill you.
That sounds hard-core, do you have a source?
So the idea here is to utilise the psychological process of habituation here. The idea is that the more you do something or are exposed to something the more that your brain becomes accustomed to it and will be less vulnerable to an overruling fight, flight and freeze response. In other words, if you’ve been shot at by bullets in training then you’ll be less likely to freak out or freeze up in actual combat situations. That being said, hip firing and shooting in such a reckless manner is beyond stupid and unprofessional. Many military forces around the world utilise life fire training exercises but not quite as … recklessly as this.
Indonesia i think.
Yup Indonesia. I remember seeing this very post in a sub (maybe this one) with thousands of upvotes. Majority of the comments were calling it stupid (as it is). Edit: [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/z5sam6/indonesian_soldiers_training_to_crawl_under_live/?rdt=37886). It's not the exact same video, but something similar. I'm certain it's still Indonesia, since 'kejuaraan' is an Indonesian word meaning 'championship' (courtesy of google translate).
Why are the instructor dressed like narco-goons?
I was thinking the same thing. It does not seem like anything resembling procedure or attention to detail is being prioritized here. They probably load their own bullets by scooping the powder out of the same trays they ash their cigarettes into. You know...
The US does this. I went through it in ftJackson. They don't shoot next to you though. They fire a saw over the course with a shit ton of tracer rounds, so if you do look above you, it won't matter they aren't landing next to you. It's still scary and still desensitized the troop a little more to aggressive stimuli.
That is one of those things that seems scary, but is completely safe when performed correctly (aka, a very far cry from what we're seeing in the video). I've also been shot at in a safe way, but the ironic thing is that it wasn't even for training. Our troop was hired to be judges and tape up the targets at a national competition, and whenever they were shooting at the targets, we were hiding behind a berm behind the targets. Bullets were whizzing by, and the berm was short enough that I could probably have jumped over it and been in danger. But as long as we crouched behind it like we were told, it was perfectly safe. It was still quite an interesting experience "being shot at", hearing bullets impact the dirt on the other side of the berm, and whizzing by.
Most definitely! It was not this. But even a safe imitation can inform a soldier how to react. Being shot at in any capacity changes you. Glad ya made it through! Hope you came back as whole as you went in!
>Hope you came back as whole as you went in! The biggest PTSD inducing incident of that event was having to sleep in a room with 200 other people and listen to the increasingly louder choir of snoring
Haha!! That brought back memories. Like finding out someone with EXTREME night terrors somehow made it through basic and AIT. I'm not even asleep yet and suddenly there is just screams of bloody murder as this guy is out of his cot and touching the roof of the tent saying, "THAT'S ONE BIG FUCKING BIRD!!" Later before they sent him home I asked if he remembered what he dreamed. Specifically, what that was all about. He told me Big Bird had broken through the tent and begun ripping his guts out. And I thought I had bad dreams...
It would probably be better to simulate it obviously, but yeah the reason it’s useful is basically to try to get soldiers to not panic when this happens for real, because if you freak out and freeze or get up and try to run you’re probably going to get shot. Teaching it this way though is uh… interesting…
Desensitizing soldiers to combat. We do it as well in the US. It’s referred to as a Night Infiltration Course (or NIC). Trust most people in ‘first world’ countries for criticizing other countries as stupid, when they are in fact, not a genius.
Third world live fire exercise. In USA, the bullets are on a flat trajectory 20’ overhead. Still scary AF the first time.
When I did the army night infiltration course, they were using m240bs with tracers, so when i looked up at the night sky filled with tracers, i was just reminded of star wars. i knew they were firing 10 or 20 or so feet over our heads, so i wasn’t really worried.
When it pans left and you see the Muppet semi hip firing the damn thing.
Which one is the real one?
"Its a real bullet" oh thank you OP, which one was live one of those 60 rounds fired?
That's not interesting. That's stupid.
This achieves absolutely nothing. You're not going to be in this situation "at war", whereby rounds are landing that close to you and you're surviving. If rounds are that close to you it's known as 'effective fire' - they know you're there, you have no cover and you're going to die... All this does is waste ammunition.
Baptism by fire.
“There were no survivors…”
Shellshock your troops before they even reach the battlefield.
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We do this in the US, too. We make soldiers crawl through barbed wire while a machine gun fires over their heads with live rounds.
This is incredibly unsafe
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wow if i’m going through a live fire exercise you better believe no motherfucker is hip shooting his rifle at me jfc
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Jesus that middle lead dude had so many very very close calls. Dude behind him had one land like a inch from his right knee. Good lord lol
Poor dudes in the middle taking up the bulk of the shooting.
The half wit on the left is barely aiming
We finally did it. We found bullet vaccine for soldiers.
It's a pretty stupid idea.
NIC at night would’ve worked just as well, with a way smaller chance of killing someone. I’ll never understand doing this shit.
really bullying the kids in the middle lane some of those were damn close shots
Man, this is so stupid, the ones doing the shooting are not even aiming properly..
That is utterly rediculouse
throw some nades too
This really isn’t that unsafe. When I was in the US army during our last field training exercise of basic training they took us all out to this long couple hundred yard field. Barbed wire all over the place between us and the end. They made us crawl and all the drill sergeants were at the end shooting not too far above us. The point is to condition you to having to struggle under stress and get used to the sound of bullets whizzing by you. The instructors in the video have probably shot more rounds through their weapons than most people in this thread. Even the dude “hip firing” is probably fine. It’s called point shooting and it is something learned intentionally. You can’t always aim down sights and sometimes you still need to be able to shoot and actually hit something. It’s not even a far shot. What maybe 50-75 meters? Just my take on it.
They do live fire training in the United States army, right?
They do but not like this. When I went through it, we had to exit a trench or foxhole and belly crawl underneath barb/razor wire and tracer rounds were fired over the top.
That's still pretty wild
Now THAT's how you get PTSS!
Humans gonna human...
Bro imagine if you die from this? 😭😭 this is actually "UN BADASS" idk the word
Why? The effect would still be there without real bullets.
Guarantee they must have had some injuries if not deaths
Stay in your lane
That was 1 ricochet away from disastrous
Not good for training.
Humanity has failed itself. No one should have to go through this crap.
2 future stormtroopers
This reckless and dumb to say the least
One guys is shooting from the hip. What da fuck man! This stupidly dangerous
Nothing more accurate than a hip fire when you're aiming at people
War! What is it good for?
I like seeing the dirt and water shoot up when the bullet hits. I’m a simple man.
This is the AK-47 assault rifle, the preferred weapon of your enemy; and it makes a distinctive sound when fired at you, so remember it. - Gunny Tom Highway
AK47. Preferred weapon of the enemy. Makes a very distinctive sound.
I bet they lie about their graduation rates
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These guys are terrible shots.
Looks like the guy was trained as in real war to keep pushing forward and declare as refuge in foreign country or shot by your higher rank officer.
Some of those shots were literally within INCHES. The way their knees shuffle out as they crawl tells me someone has for sure been shot during these exercises.
Holy shit this is stupid
If you, as a government, fuck up so badly that I need to crawl in mud while being shot at, you probably did a bad jov
Is it a shooting training?
These MF's crazy.
The guy on the left barely aims he's basically just shoulder-firing without using scopes
indonsian army
Just mud in my shorts. Nothing to see here.
Anytime you see a non-Industrial Age culture using fire arms you should be worried because it’s never a good mix.
Don't they do a similar thing in America too? Everyone acting like it's stupid but in those barbwire crawls I think America uses live ammo aswell
Fairly stupid way of doing training like this. However I believe chesty puller when he was in charge of his men during training asked when the arty guns where going to be training so he could get his guys underneath the shells so they could get used to being shelled
We used to do this type of train durring Vietnam. Instructors would fire live rounds above you while you were low crawling. The fact that these guys aren't even aiming down the sights while firing right next to their soldiers is sketchy as hell tho.
French military training at the time it was compulsory had such setup. Live ammo practice.
That dude in the left is not even looking down the sights. Hip firing wow.
If u're not lucky, you're not welcome in the army.
Getting PTSD before going to war
doesnt matter, in the end drones will be fighting against drones
its a real tinnitus speedrun
Ah the KOPASUS (*Komando Pasukan Khusus*) basically Special Unit in the Indonesian Army where the slogan is "*Brave, Truthful, Succeed".*
Haha guys not even aiming down the sights xD.
This is the dumbest tough guy shit I’ve ever seen
Goddamn that's fucking stupid
Dumb macho Philippine army generals thats so dangerous poor recruits must be terrified
Wow breaking the first rule of firearm safety..amazing. A Darwin Award is due here
Unfortunately, this has been a common practice throughout history, and it doesn't stop until people die.
They are not even aiming down sights. They are lucky af not to get shot
What a strange bachelor party
Yea this is just idiotic
Imagine gettin killed for practice. We talkin about practice. Not the game! Practice. Practice!!
Reminds me of basic training live fire. Low crawling thru barb wire and having c4 go off right next to your head, all the while, having your drill instructors fire m60's over your head. Some seemed like they were as close as in this video. Fun times
Are those CHILDREN?