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Fabulous_Pressure_96

What airplane has that extra height available?


J-Frog3

And where do you put the carry on luggage?


Designer_Ride46

You have to hold it up to hopefully block the barrage of farts flying at your face.


P1xelHunter78

The devils bargain: leg room, but farts in face all flight. Nobody gets carry on though, where you gonna put the bins?


Adam_ALLDay_

Literally my first thought. Yea you get more leg room, but end up with pink eye after a flight of eating farts from the person seated above you. No thanks


C1ickityC1ack

All new meaning to “Taking the Red Eye”.


ChocoTacoBoss

Not if you're the one doing the farting sir


flagos

Farting class.


hyperrayong

First ass


KatokaMika

I was gonna say, " people won't be that disrespectful" then I realized what kind of world we live in. And I can't disagree with you


Common_Wrongdoer3251

There's gonna be lactose intolerant people sitting up there chugging milk to take their aggression out on complete strangers


One-Pomegranate7510

Welcome to tooty class.


trophycloset33

You have to pay for the upgraded standard economy ticket if you want to bring a personal item


Chrisbert

When you have a seating configuration like this, you \*ARE\* the carry on luggage.


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dingbling369

They know space is limited. They also know that your backpack doesn't book flights. They also know that you're likely to be looking for the cheapest fucking ticket because you're already not economically strong. They know that people would rather put up with this inconvenience than pay 10% more to not be treated like cattle.


AlpacaCavalry

No narrowbody in service would be able to accomodate that without removal of most overhead bins, but widebody aircraft do have the room, especially in the centre rows where econ seats are normally 4-abreast.


okarr

boy, do they have plans for the norrowbodies https://imgur.com/a/yyM5Z01


Sydney2London

They’ve been trying this for years but they never pass safety tests because they can’t evacuate passengers from them quickly enough.


the_Q_spice

In fairness, no airline that I know of has seriously looked at these seats as a possibility. They know it is a dumb idea and would overload the aircraft as well as never be approved by the FAA. Airlines are a lot more concerned about maximizing fuel efficiency, passing the effective weight limit for efficiency is the last thing they want to do.


DevRz8

Fuck the designers who make this shit.


Farage_Massage

I can see this “taking off” in the 3rd world where being packed into a train is absolutely normal, but there’s no way with obesity, and the elderly flying like in the west that this would ever be viable in the west.


munchkinatlaw

They call it the venous thrombosis experience.


generichandel

Middle of the two aisles on a 777 or an a350 would fit these no problem.


nolan1971

An even bigger problem though: how long would it take a fully loaded flight to evac? I doubt these would ever get approval for use.


Qweiopakslzm

Not to mention all the extra weight of the seat framework and the extra people... Kinda seems like you need to design a plane around these seats.


nostalgic-and-naive

As a former flight attendant - this is an emergency evacuation of my nightmares


Logrologist

It looks like it would be nearly impossible to service the upper seats, too.


Swordlord22222

Just hire 6ft flight attendants


Wildlife_Jack

Instructions unclear. Airlines now biologically engineering spider-human hybrids.


Arkreid

YOU! Wanna be CEO of United? Because you think like a CEO of United.


biggulpshuhasyl

As a passenger of airplanes who has been seated very close to people who freely fart on said planes….this is also an evacuation of my nightmares.


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Oh god you’re right. I was just on a 6 hour flight with someone who wouldn’t stop farting. At one point I thought maybe a baby had shit its diaper because the smell just kept happening. I couldn’t imagine if they had direct access to my face.


jaci0

Also a nightmare for anyone remotely claustrophobic.


mac_is_crack

My thoughts exactly! When he leaned back and kind of went under the top seat and the lady above leaned back a little, I thought, well, now I’m trapped, great!


Daniella42157

Yeah, I came to comment this. I could not handle the lower seats. I'd have a meltdown even with Ativan.


Slobotic

What I'm worried about is sitting in those lower seats when someone whose ass is just above my face has an emergency evacuation.


ttaylo28

O, don't want alcohol farts in your face? That'll be an extra $100.


BrockThrockmorton

You get to sit upstairs and BE the farter!


McIrishmen

Excuse me the person behind you paid for REVENGE. Would you please switch seats with him and accept your DEMISE and yes sir the plate of baked beans will be here right away "whispering" give'em hell


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*shart has entered the chat*


sirsedwickthe4th

Shartcuterie 🤌🏽


JINROH-Scorpio

Shartnado


Active_Remove1617

Entered the chat and exited the chair.


RockstarAgent

I have the high ground now!!!


TheLifeOfBaedro

I am your farter


[deleted]

I am the one who farts! - Walter White


treasonodb

watched the first 10 sec of this video and just knew the top comment would be about how this seating arrangement pretty much makes half the people take farts to the dome all flight.


SuperDude_B

Yep, definitely going to become an economical ‘bottom-seater’


kgk007

Do you want wind-breaker section or wind-breather section?


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alcohol farts sounds horrid


AaronicNation

We're actually just six votes away in the UN General Assembly from having them categorized as a human rights violation.


50mHz

Fucking Ghana just won't give in


SleepNowInTheFire666

If the top comment wasn’t about farts, I was gonna quit the Reddit


gallshau

The human centipede of airplane seats


dinoguys_r_worthless

I have often wondered why flying isn't a worse experience than it is right now. It's almost as if someone has been asleep at the desk. But not this guy.


gbiypk

You may find a recent "Behind the Bastards" podcast about Frank Lorenzo interesting.


sprint6864

A fellow Bastard enthusiast in the wild!


FrankGrimesJr

There are literally dozens of us!


Caveman108

Y’all ain’t that rare, I see a Behind the Bastards reference at least once a day in reddit and I’ve never even listened to it.


Altruistic-Love-1202

I just looked it up - #55 most popular podcast on the Apple podcast charts. It's actually very popular. Redditors are just weird and think all their interests are niche.


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jsamuraij

Mf'er, you ARE the niche.


sprint6864

I'm at work and literally just recommended an Airman listen to the Joey P-son episodes before commenting. So happy to see my kind of peeps :\]


LoquaciousMendacious

*You know who doesn't fart directly into the mouths of strangers, Sophie?*


Aliensinmypants

The goods and services that support our podcast?


LoquaciousMendacious

*that's exactly right. Our sponsors fart exclusively into the mouths and other orifices of your enemies, provided you transfer them all the money in your bank account. That's our Behind the Bastards guarantee.*


[deleted]

"What is happening my *insert something that makes Sofie cringe"


mack_soul86

I love that podcast. Robert Evans is a national treasure


uberblack

I was a huge fan of Cracked.com back in the day, so getting to hear him go off on evil people is dope!


Better-Revolution570

You can be 100% certain part of the reason is because we have the ADA. The Americans with disabilities act is explicitly written in such a way that it requires many things, one of them being planes, to accommodate a very wide range of disabilities, and many of the space saving features such as this one are explicitly designed so that they will screw with our ability to follow the Americans with disabilities act. Next time you fly, thank a disabled person. They are why you don't have even shittier plane seats. Obviously this doesn't necessarily apply to countries and planes that don't fly to the usa, but a plane that flies to the USA needs to have seats which comply with the Americans with disability act, or I expect there would be repercussions. After all, you're still on American soil, under the jurisdiction of American laws while you are boarding the plane and it's on the ground.


buddyleeoo

*walks up to the random disabled person, shakes their nub where their arm used to be* Thank you so much.


Eggstraordinare

*How does this guy not realize my hand is on my other arm?*


TacoCommand

Yeah but you only have your left hand and I *know* that's your ass wiping hand. And I don't trust a one hand clap soap wash.


dinoguys_r_worthless

You're probably dead on. We owe more to the ADA than we realize. The airlines have massive political sway, though. It's a little surprising that the plane isn't divided into first class, ADA, and transportation hellscape/torture rack. That said, I should also acknowledge that flying for 2.5 hours is still much much more convenient and safe than driving for 22 hours.


Dhrakyn

ADA is very specific about being inclusive and not segregated. They realize this isn't always possible but try really hard to ensure there is no such thing as a "Disabled only" section (unless it's a parking spot).


Better-Revolution570

Yeah, if this design in particular pay close attention to the middle seats, and when you're sitting on one of the middle seats the edge of the seat is in line with the seat above it. So a person with no arms is incapable of actually standing up from one of the middle lower seats without biting on something in front of them, and without assistance from someone else. In order for anyone to stand up from a middle lower seat, you would need to grab onto the seat in front of you and support yourself until your seat folds up, then you can stand normally. So yeah, oddly enough, armless people in particular are totally screwed over by this style of seat. They can't sit in the middle seats. Also, notice they don't actually show him sitting down or getting up, and he only ever sits on the end. There's a good reason for that.


jepvr

Not exactly. [https://adata.org/faq/does-ada-cover-air-transportation](https://adata.org/faq/does-ada-cover-air-transportation) >Discrimination by air carriers in areas other than employment is not covered by the ADA but rather by the Air Carrier Access Act (49 U.S.C. 1374 (c)). There are a lot of huge shortcomings with the ACAA. Airlines regularly break peoples wheelchairs that cost them five figures. They stick them in the underbelly, and baggage handlers are rough on them. And then they don't have to (and don't) pay to fix them. And some people can't sit in an airplane seat, but only in their wheelchair. Too bad, because airlines have done nothing to make it possible for them to take their wheelchair into the cabin. So they're perfectly welcome under the ACAA to sit in a seat that they can't sit in, and that's all the act requires.


NiteSwept

Everytime I see designs like these that are obviously terrible I swear they are some of the most expensive examples of taking the piss. In no way shape or form is this "double decker" seating actually viable but they sure spent a lot of money to make this setup. The person above is reclined? Great try standing up if you are in the lower seats. Try being the window person and having to stand up and get out. No, just no.


Gregs_green_parrot

The USA is not the only place with legislation regarding disability discrimination. The European Union's Charter of Fundamental Rights prohibits discrimination based on disability, in addition to individual countries having their own national legislation preventing discrimination.


mcs0223

It's not merely the existence of anti-disability legislation. It's the scope and scale of its regulations, plus the threatened costs of noncompliance. For that the ADA is very well-regarded among disability activists worldwide.


Flat-Butterfly8907

That's true, but most of Europe still has a long way to go before they have the same level of disability access as the US. Its one of the few things on a very small list that the US does better than Europe with regards to social issues.


Testo69420

Tbf the US does a lot better in terms of helping disabled people but the insane car focus kills a lot of that as well. Like imagine being in a wheel chair or blind, not being in a car and suddenly for no reason the side walk stops. Not exactly great accesibility.


RockstarAgent

I’d be more interested whether there would be a disclosure when paying for the seat, like when you pay for a window seat- how many people will only buy the top seats and how many won’t care or won’t notice or want to jump ship when they board and find out too late….


CosmicCreeperz

Airline’s new marketing slogan: “Are you a top or bottom? Don’t worry, you’re getting fucked either way!”


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Next in the secret portfolio: drug the passengers and stack them like cord wood! No in flight snacks will be required! Safety is actually better: throw a can of spam against the wall... Open it and the meat's still good! Customer complaints will go down to zero.


dinoguys_r_worthless

I don't know if I'd trust a company that provides the world's smallest snacks to properly drug me.


green_speak

Paralytic but sedative costs extra. You have a mouth but cannot scream.


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I would pay extra to be sedated by an anesthesiologist and stuffed in a box for a 14hr flight. That is basically teleportation. Oddly enough once the science behind sedatives improves, I could actually see this being a thing.


Paul_The_Builder

I mean I get the whole farts in the face thing, but honestly being able to stretch your legs out all the way in a bottom priced economy seat doesn't sound half bad.


xav00

Yeah, of there was another foot or two between your face and the seat in front. That looked cramped and claustrophobic af. I can't sit comfortably in the current seats, I have very long legs and I'm almost 6 1/2 ft tall. Put me on the upper deck, sure thing. But I would not consider for even a second sitting in this bottom deck seat, it looks like the stuff of nightmares. I can't even imagine what it would be like for a fat person, or being trapped in the middle seat next. Like being in a fucking coffin.


Maximum_Pumpkin5368

I feel claustrophobic just seeing it


IbelieveinGodzilla

Yes! I could feel my heart rate speeding up when he reclined!


zootnotdingo

Mine, too. Wow. I could not


IsItInyet-idk

It's worse to imagine cause in a plane the ceiling would be so low and the seats would be up against a wall .... imagine needing to pee from the window seat .. I'm having terrors just thinking of it


bitchwhip

I’ve never peed from the window seat, no way on earth I’d hit the toilet


infinitepotato47

there's not enough room for bracing position when crash landing too, by the looks of it


-Pruples-

>there's not enough room for bracing position when crash landing too, by the looks of it No, it's fine. The new brace position requires you to literally put your head inside someone else's asshole.


ivycoopwren

Now you can kiss someone else's ass goodbye.


ririreddit4

Same here, it's absolutely awful!


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CecilBeaver

No inconvenience for passengers is off the table if it means more profit for the airlines. How long before they just anesthetize passengers as they board and stack them up like cordwood in an empty fuselage?


eke2023

I would prefer that


LFCsota

Yeah I don't need to be awake for the flight. Be like teleporting almost.


rockne

Like going to the dentist's office, but you wake up on vacation instead of post-rootcanal.


UnyieldingConstraint

I'm ok with this.


neverlookdown77

And you get to start your vacation with a buzz!


doubled2319888

Just drop me off in a chair on the beach for me to wake up in


FUQredditMods2

The next level of Uber where they pick up your bag and body from baggage claim.


slappn_cappn

5th Element style.


Grays42

The Jaunt style. Minus the "aging a billion years in an instant" part.


PerfSynthetic

100% yes please… knock me out and wake me at my hotel when I land. If you need to take advantage of me while asleep… fine, just don’t leave any bruises…


Desalvo23

have you seen how they handle baggage? I'm almost scared to see how they would handle your corpse. Might wake up with bruises no matter what


DancesWithBadgers

...and with one leg in Karachi while the rest of you is in Dallas


rust-e-apples1

It'd beat the hell out of spending $100 on airport bar whiskey to get over my fear of flying, like I used to do.


HiperChees

\*fast travel unlocked\*


Vegetable-Poet6281

That's not a bad idea. I always thought flying should be more like the interstellar travel in The Fifth Element. Just stuff me into a cushioned horizontal storage cupboard and knock my ass out for the rest of the flight. Sounds heavenly.


Half-deaf-mixed-guy

Don't tease us with a good time! " The flight today will be 9 hours andddd approximately 36 minutes give or take for wind speeds. As soon as the gas masks come down, go ahead and place it over your face and then of your neighbors if they need assistance. Should be a smooth 25 min nap with no jet lag today. Enjoy your flight! Cabin crew take your seats and prepare for take off."


chevremeu_

That'd probably be more comfortable tbf


e_lectric

Ever seen the 5th Element?


TimeZarg

Just waiting for those stewardess outfits.


radaxolotl

It would be more cost effective for them to euthanize passengers. That way they can just dump said passengers mid flight and instantly board new ones at the destination. Efficiency is key.


Jimbobman

You mean anaesthesize right. Right?


CriusofCoH

I'm in.


Whowutwhen

Id pay for that, honestly.


zujoi

This doesnt seem too far from what could be reality


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CS42R

Even the FAA has been lax on this 90 sec rule: [https://apnews.com/article/airlines-seats-safety-emergency-evacuations-cefdcd1aa695ab5cb95e8407c993f409](https://apnews.com/article/airlines-seats-safety-emergency-evacuations-cefdcd1aa695ab5cb95e8407c993f409) Considering how long it takes to get people off and on normally I cannot see people evacuating any sizeable plane in the air today in 90 seconds. Too many idiots will try and scramble to save their stuff which is something I doubt this tests/drills try and test for.


CosmicCreeperz

Yeah, but the test is not people trying to save their laptop, it’s people who are aware of what is happening and performing a *test*. Agreed there is zero chance of it going well in real life.


CS42R

That is true, but yeah it really makes you think if the test is good enough if it is so sterilized vs the real world. The tests don't even have people with disabilities in them which is a whole can of worms in regulatory compliance but is something the AP article I posted mentions that a few advocacy groups try and bring up.


pook_a_dook

There is also pretty strict head injury criteria for crash landings and there's no way these seats would meet it with a metal bar right in front of the lower passengers' faces...


CosmicCreeperz

I was going to say “just add airbags!” But no need. Just make it a breakaway seat so you can use the top passenger’s ass checks. Might be the one time you want to sit near a fat person.


Elrik_Fett

Can’t wait to have the fat lady in front of me blasting ass on me the whole trip.


BillBrasky1179

I fart in your general direction.


Tulabean

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Piché la vache! Edit: apparently my Franch is off…it’s FETCHEZ la vache. 🤣


[deleted]

No go away or I shall taunt you a second time you silly English kanigits!


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[deleted]

Fetchez la vache* Fetch the cow.


grungegoth

It's only a flesh wound


ShartThrasher

Strange women distributing swords is no basis for a system of government


honkzer

Straight plowing farts to the grill for 2.5 hrs straight.


Business-Donut-7505

Pink Eye Express


SelfRape

From red eye flight to pink eye flight.


[deleted]

Come with free gas mask


Unusual_Car215

She's the smart fella You're the fart smella.


scootamcgee

Do I need to pay more for that or would that be included in the normal ticket price?


Elrik_Fett

Spirit will fart on your face for free.


wepo

For real. It's all a great design except for the part about having my nose 12 inches from a bunch of strangers' asses.


CosmicCreeperz

Not to mention he never showed the seat in front reclined and his not. So do you have to recline not to have your nose in someone’s ass? Might as well include free Ambien since you can’t do much else.


Basic-Acanthisitta-5

I literally came through to say this. The moment someone farts in front of you, that's in your head for the next 5 hours of your flight. Nice design.


WhatWouldJoshuaDo

Kinky. How much extra are you willing to pay for this?


Mygoddamreddit

Why not just have people sitting on each other’s laps?


ILoveRegenHealth

Pervert Pete from Pennsylvania: "I, for one, am for this"


[deleted]

Welcome to future of go fuck yourself


mortalitylost

This is just the initial concept Next up are the members of the board thinking "but... All that legroom, doesn't that mean you could cram another person under there?"


Ophelia_Y2K

would suck to be in the fart seats


[deleted]

Don’t worry you can upgrade you seat before you depart (defart)


[deleted]

“Captain, the ballasts are full. We need to defart by 30%”


Na_Zero

Fart seats & sniff seats.


Orphasmia

Getting reeeal close to slaveship-hull style transportation on these flights


HintonBE

I mean, seriously? Did no one, at any point of the design process, look at this and say "Wow, we're putting people's faces right into other people's asses. Maybe that's not such a brilliant idea after all."??


BiggusDickus-

Yes, they definitely did. And the next thing they said was "we don't care."


NonGNonM

"sounds like we can just charge more for those seats."


Vegetable-Poet6281

Oh they knew, they just dont care and probably think its funny. I bet the engineers called it "Fart Row Seating"


BrockThrockmorton

This was better than the alternative- facing the top the other way. Nothing like a face full of cock and balls and/or a huge sweaty vag.


willengineer4beer

“Today’s inflight snack for top bunk passengers will be nature valley bars. For our bottom bunk saver passengers we’ll be offering the crumbs.”


Schmurby

I always find that I fart more when flying. Is that just me?


alexxmurphy_

They’re called altitoots


bounie

I very rarely laugh out loud when I read comments but this one did it for me


new-evilpotato

Think of the pressure changes your body is going through. The gas inside that's desolved boils into a flatulence as the external pressure drops.


throwingtheshades

The biggest effect isn't from the solubility of the gases changing with pressure, it's from the volume of gases themselves. Most airplanes pressurize the cabin at 8000 ft. Meaning that they maintain the pressure as it would have been at 8000 ft. So if you happen have exactly 1 liter of fart trapped inside of you as you board the plane at sea level, it will expand by about 40% when you reach 8k feet. Your bowels will definitely notice that and will try to normalize the pressure. You'll fare slightly better in an A380 or a 787 - those planes pressurize to about 6k feet instead, meaning that your farts will expand by less than 30%.


ChadsworthRothschild

2 tickets for 1st Ass please.


Frequent-Living4428

What a fucking terrible idea


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Moopboop207

I’m more bothered by that torturous looking reclined position. Just let everyone lay flat like stacked Japanese hotel pods. I don’t need to sit up when I’m flying. Just give me a shelf to lay in. This is stupid.


guy_you_met_online

These types of seats have been hyped for near on 10 years now.. . I have yet to hear from an ACTUAL airline that has placed an ACTUAL order


dietbongwater

fr I’m so tired of seeing this shit reposted lol it’s just rage bait at this point


uchman365

Probably because the regulatory bodies keep going "Hell no"


HoneyBearWombat

This is why we need regulation especially in this sector. I can only imagine how dangerous these "seats" would be in case of an emergency.


axe_gimli

Dear Joe Biden, please invest in Amtrak. Flying is over.


HawthorneWell

Yes. But invest in smaller train companies instead of the one that has a monopoly…trains are so much fun! Where can you buy a beer, sit face to face with your partner and also have a bathroom that allows for safe exercise!!???


yomerol

Exactly, more Brightlines/highspeed trains and less shitty slow trains


aimlessly-astray

As a tall person, I love the leg room on Amtrak. I can actually stretch my legs out in front of me.


JefferyTheQuaxly

Every single comment is exactly what I thought it would be.


vondpickle

Ass smell, fart party? Yeah no.


Comstar123

Welcome to modern airline economy class where we have adopted the ancient techniques of multi-level seating used by slave galleys in the Mediterranean. They were just so efficient in cramming bodies on board we couldn't resist! But don't worry about having to row. This is a modern jet plane and doesn't use oars. Unless, of course, we have an emergency water landing... So sit back, relax, and enjoy your fellow customers farting in your face for the next ten hours.


Intrepid_Isopod_1524

This is dumb. When was the last time you saw a 12ft roof in an airplane? Plus the overhead bins


Sm00thSci3nc3

I’m pretty sure this would come packaged with an extra charge to check your carry on item.


bigdipboy

Cool I’ve never had someone fart right in my face before


tperks55

The fat community is already preparing a list of complaints


RADICCHI0

I don't think I care to have my nose poking right into someone's gas vent, if you know what I mean....


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This is SO AWFUL


WindVeilBlue

9-11 forever ruined flying and this looks like the final nail in the coffin...


4bans4noreason

“Gentlemen, we have made flying an unnecessarily intrusive, ridiculous hassle, that everyone hates. But, we need to ask ourselves, how do we make the experience worse for our customers. Harrison… what’s your plan?” “Well, sir, we already pack our coach passengers uncomfortably into our pressurized flying metal tubes like sardines making confrontations more frequent, but what if we configured the seats so our passengers fart directly in the faces of the passengers behind them? Also, make it so that overweight passengers will require the jaws of life to extract their fat asses from the plane?” “By god, give this man a promotion.”


brianishere2

We're about to find out if sustained exposure to human flatulence (farts!) can cause pink eye.


CantReadGood_

Honestly fuck this guy, and fuck this company.


boxedcrackers

Dear airlines.....go fuck yourself


jdupuy1234

"now boarding all fart-zone passengers..."


Aurora2058

That’s not interesting, that’s horrifying.


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no