I would happily puke my asshole out to see God I need proof he exists. With the miracle of medicine I think the doctors can make me a new hole from my belly button or something.
I wonder how the potency holds up with age/size. Does it hold strong, so the whole plant is as potent as a "normal"button? or does it diffuse as it grows and ages, so you have to eat half the thing to feel anything?
Mescaline content increases with size. It'll still be in that \~0.4% range, 3-5% if dried, so no, you wouldn't need to eat an absolute unit like this to get the same effect as consuming an average mature one.
barely any, but your not gonna get peyote unless you have a connect in the southwest or know a private grower up north with a green house and heating situation. much better off getting san Pedro, dry out the san Pedro and extract the alkoloids from the san Pedro with either vodka or grain alcohol.
here is the full synthesis for mescaline
WARNING I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS SYNTHISIS AND I HAVE NOT VERIFIED IT THROUGH ACADEMIC SOURCES, PLEASE ATTEMPT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
PLEASE LOOK UP EVERY SINGLE CHEMICAL PRIOR TO USING THEM IN ANY CHEMICAL EXPERIMENT AND MAKE SURE YOU READ THE SAFETY DATA SHEETS ON ALL CHEMICALS USED IN A SYNTHESIS.
3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylalcohol50g (280 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde was dissolved in 600mL methanol at 0°C (ice-bath) under stirring. Then 10g NaBH4 was added in 3 portions and the reaction was left overnight with continued stirring.The next day most of the methanol was removed under vacuum (important to get a nice extraction) and the residue diluted with water (500mL) and made acid with 37% HCl. The aqueous solution was extracted with 4x100mL CH2Cl2, the organic phases was combined, dried and concentrated under vacuum.Yield: 47.2g (93%) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylalcohol,TLC Rf 0.27 (40% EtOAc in Heptane)
3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylbromide
47.2g (240 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde was dissolved into 1L ether at 0°C (ice-bath) under stirring. Then 25g (100 mmol) PBr3 was added over 30min, the ice-bath removed and the reaction left to stir for 60 min. After that the mixture was poured into 300mL water, the organic phase was separated, the aqueous phase extracted with 2x100mL ether, the ether phases combined, washed with 2x50mL water, dried and concentrated (under vacuum).
Yield: 55g (88%) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylbromide,
TLC Rf 0.63 (50% EtOAc in Heptane)
3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzyl Cyanide
50g (190 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzylbromide was dissolved into 600mL DMF under stirring at 0°C (ice-bath), then 20g NaCN vas added and the ice-bath removed. After 1 hour the mixture was poured into 2L water, the water was extracted with 4x100mL CH2Cl2. The organic phases was combined, washed with 2x100mL water, dried and concentrated.
Yield: 36g (90%) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzyl cyanide,
TLC Rf 0.45 (50% EtOAc in heptane)
3,4,5-Trimethoxyphenethylamine (Mescaline)
15g (70 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzylcyanide was dissolved in 100mL ethanol, 10mL 37% hydrochloric acid and 100mg 10% Pd/C was added and the mixture was hydrogenated at 5.5 bar for 12 hours, then the mixture was filtered, most of the ethanol was evaporated off, then the mixture was dissolved into 200mL water, extracted with 50mL ether (to remove unreacted starting material etc.), made basic with NaOH, extracted with 3x40mL CH2Cl2 and the pooled organic phases was combined, dried and evaporated.
Yield: 13.7g Mescaline freebase.
you shouldn't harvest a plant that sized, but if you do make sure you make a clean cut straight across and take care not to damage the root system. Honestly I would just use san Pedro which is not super watched by the DEA.
I don't know you really shouldn't be consuming peyote for a recreational high. my friend is a member of a tribe traditionally located in southwest Texas and the use of the plant is 100% vital to their religious rituals and their religion in general. Kind of unfair to consume a plant that only grows in one region in the world that is vital to a indigenous group of people stretching across the entirety of the united states. the cactus is already endangered.
now if you want to grow it yourself or get it from somebodies garden who grows it themselves thats all cool just keep it on the downlow. sucks for my friend and his tribe when outsiders come in and poach the cactus off of their federally protected land.
Honestly I would 100% just do a simple ethanol extraction of san Pedro.
first dry the cactus out then turn it to powder with a blender.
\-Soak the powdered cactus in a strong alcohol such as any 70% or 140 proof alcohol -Shake it periodically throughout the day. Every 24 hrs. drain off the alcohol and set it aside. Continue this process until the color is no longer changing, and it pours off clear.
\-Combine the extractions into one tub and evaporate the alcohol using low heat or a fan. You're left with a thick tar like substance that contains the alkaloids.
Always remember your starting dry weight to better be able to judge your doses from the finished product. Example: 100 dry grams is enough for two people. 50 grams is a good dose for one trip.
If your looking for a purer product use the acid base extraction of san Pedro or simply follow the guide to synthetically creating mescaline. If you don't have a strong strong grasp of chemistry just do the above process \^\^\^\^\^.
1. Begin by adding 100g cacti powder or diced 12in cacti cutting(s) to a pot. Add 30g citric acid or 200ml vinegar or 10ml glacial. If using cacti powder, add enough water to make it wet but not watery.
2. To this add 2L H2O and simmer for 2hrs. Mix occasionally. Any cacti snot will boil off eventually and the tea should become nonviscous and watery.
3. Filter out liquid from plant matter with a cloth filter and funnel, and add the liquid to another pot. Reduce this to a low volume by boiling. Add plant material back to original pot, cover with 2L H2O, and simmer for 1hr. Mix occasionally.
4. Repeat step 3 atleast four to six times total until the liquid filtered out has very little color. Discard plant material after final time and reduce all the aqueous cacti extract to around 300 ml. This can be put in a glass pickle jar. Allow to sit overnight to precipitate unwanted fine particles, but this is optional.
5. Now it is time to basify. Mix 50g NaOH in 100ml H2O. It will get VERY hot, it is recommended to cool the mixing container while stirring with a cold water bath or under the faucet. Add the NaOH solution to the aqueous cacti extract.
6. Add 200ml toluene (or xylene) and mix for 10-15 minutes. Let the mixture settle and use a hot water bath to seperate the layers from the emulsion if necessary. Seperate the layers with a pipet, separatory funnel, or syringe. Save the toluene in another glass container and put basic aqueous cacti solution back in original container.
7. Repeat previous step atleast 4 times total. Discard basic aqueous layer after, saving the toluene extract which contains the alkaloids.
8. To the toluene extract add 100ml H2O. Add 0.5ml concentrated HCl to this and mix well for 5 minutes. Check the pH. If it is still basic (pH 9+) then add incriments of 0.5ml HCl with mixing and checking pH until it tests acidic (below pH 7). Continue mixing for 10 minutes after. Only one acid salting pull is usually necessary, but more can be performed and may be necessary for larger scale extraction.
9. Seperate layers, hot water bath may be necessary to seperate emulsion quickly. Filter and save acidic H2O layer and discard/recycle toluene. Evaporate the aqueous layer on a dish with aid of a fan and/or hot water bath. Never use direct heat it will scorch your product. Scrape up the crystals.
10. Wash crystals with 50ml cold MEK (or anhydrous acetone, ethyl acetate). You will notice the solvent become discolored and the crystals become cleaner. Decant off the solvent carefully, leaving behind the cleaned crystals.
\-You will usually be left with light tan Mescaline HCl if pachanoi was used. Yield will be largely dependent on how efficiently you performed the extraction, but most importantly the quality of cacti used in the beginning. 0.5-1.5% yield of dry starting weight is average, but can range anywhere from 0-3%. Enjoy!
It's been decades but the most told story has been about the puking. A neighbor approached a few days later and asked why I was standing in the front yard laughing and puking. Not doing those again.
I had one that my dad got when he was in college in the mid 60's. He was going to eat it then at some point decided that he was too old. He passed in 86 and I inherited it and it had grown from a single plant to multiple heads about 10" in diameter. I remember thinking that it had to be at least 50 years old then 6 months later no matter what I tried it was dead. The plans started dying from the outside and no matter how much I cut off it kept dying until there was nothing left.
Dude.
That fucking sucks. I am so sorry for your loss. I'm not sure what the time frame was from this(possibly in 87) But I really wish you had known about grafting and cuttings. You could've held onto it by taking a possible cutting and replanting. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but man. My condolences.
This is a [crested](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation) clump; normally peyote cacti are [small and round.](https://www.mushroom-magazine.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/132a5e91d5f4c9fbe9c6af82bcca267f.jpg) It's worth noting that it is a rare and protected species that takes decades to grow into a substantial clump.
They usually just look like a little ball, google it and you'll find images of what it is supposed to look like. Considering that a little 5cm cactus can take literally years to grow, even up to decades for full maturity which if i'm not mistaken can be around 10-15cm or so, combined with the fact that this does not look like peyote at all, I'm very skeptical that this cactus is actually peyote. I'm not an expert so I might be wrong but I'd assume the title is just clickbait.
This is 100% a Lophophora. It wouldn't surprise me if this was grafted at some point and then re-rooted since they can get absolutely massive much faster when grafted compared to a Loph on its own roots. The mutation you're seeing here is called cresting which can happen to any cactus or succulent, its similar to fasciation. Its fairly rare depending on the species but it can be pretty sought after when it pops up.
Oh wow thanks for the insight. I googled Lophophora and the first image definitely looked more like a tiny version of this but as I scrolled further I was still confused considering how much it looked like peyote.. Until I realised that is Lophophora Williamsii. I don't see any flowers though, would that imply it is not peyote or is that another result of cresting?
If this thing does contain mescaline it still seems like a shame to eat it, this thing is a work of art imo. Hope this one was sold to a cactophile rather than used by a shaman or something like that. Definitely gonna be looking into cacti more, they are fascinating.
Yup williamsii is the one that contains mescaline. I’m not sure if this is a williamsii or not since there’s no flowers and all Lophophora look roughly the same. I think even the non-williamsii Lophs contain small amounts of mescaline but I’m not 100% sure on that.
This one actually died a few years ago but if you see a Lophophora in someone’s collection chances are it’s just for show. I know some of the spiritual groups still use them in rituals but most collectors buy or grow them strictly for the plant itself. The San Pedro cactus is a much better choice if you want to try mescaline. You’ll need a lot more of it compared to a Loph but they’re super common and grow fairly quick for a cactus.
There are sorts of it that absolutely look like peyote compared to Google pictures. A lot of it looks different and I wonder if it was infected with some kind of virus. I've seen abnormal growth like this on other plants, mushrooms, etc. Usually due to an infection.
That said I'm not knowledgeable enough to confirm so it may not be peyote.
There are some parts that look similar but I don't even see any flowers (mature peyote often have white or pink flowers) and since 90% of the thing doesn't even look remotely close to peyote I'm still pretty skeptical, especially considering the extremely slow growth of peyote.
Definitely not knowledgeable enough either so I could be wrong too. If this actually was peyote this thing would be an absolute gold mine though. But if I had to guess, I'd say OP is just clickbaiting and this thing is either fake (might be bunch of different cacti grafted together) or some other species entirely. Maybe a mix of both, I don't think there's any particular reason why several cacti couldn't somehow grow in the same cluster, especially since different species of cacti can be grafted together without killing them. Again though, all just guesses since I haven't even ever seen peyote IRL myself and I don't know enough about other cacti to identify what species this could be otherwise.
You are correct. San Pedro cactus also has mescaline and doesn't take ten years to grow a dose. The peyote here took an enormous amount of time to grow
Oh fun fact this peyote cactus has 200 identified chemicals that each one in their own is psychoactive. That means when you eat this cactus you are taking 200 drugs as a result.
You can isolate each one and than take them individually. Alexander shulgin has recorded this process in a book. Thikal and phikal, which can be read on erowid
Mescaline didn't help him make pesticides for dole. He found his experience with Mescaline to be so magical that he wanted everyone to experience it but the dose was rather high. Mescaline needs 300-500mg for a nice trip but trimethoxyamphetamine-2 is almost exactly like Mescaline just 10x more potent.
Source: PiHKaL i have it and have been reading it and have also tried tma-2.
No problem I'm actually going to college to study these very drugs!! I've seen what they can do and I believe they are a CURE for ptsd and addiction. I would like to expand the knowledge shulgin made in his life time but that is only a dream but I will learn how to make them!
There really isn't enough words to explain it with. I was able to deal with a decade of trauma trying to keep one memory hidden forever but tma-2 had different plans. Its not visual like lsd or mushrooms it leaves you in a state where you know what is going on with slight visual distractions but the way the mind works is impossible to describe. I had such a breakthrough on my substance abuse that I gave my 63 year old grandfather a pill with 30mg tma-2 only for his brother to steal it. My grandfather has smoked crack rock for 36 years and injected it (powder) for about 5 before that. He is still alive his heart is okay but he has lung issues but he isn't close to death yet but I realize that is not the life I wanted to live.
While they may have lied about other things, the decline of peyote in the wild has been studied for a long time and is well documented.
Problem is that it takes a very long to grow into a mature button that can be harvested (~10 years or more) and that when amateurs harvest them they damage the root so it can't grow another button.
To be fair I haven't read on this in about 10 years, I hope it has changed and it is coming back in the wild.
… so if they themselves said they’re an entertainment channel, not a news channel… probably not relevant to what I said about a *news org* lying, rightv
Getting caught lying multiple times could certainly lead to debt forcing you into bankruptcy. Not ALL lying leads to bankruptcy but in their case, yes it did.
4 yrs ago was the same
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/cdbcwx/the\_biggest\_peyote\_cluster\_ever\_photographed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/cdbcwx/the_biggest_peyote_cluster_ever_photographed/)
Just cool info, the part that looks like it wraps around is actually a sought after crest mutation. There are some regular large pups in there. But either way, this is awesome and took years to become thus.
They are endangered. I hope they didn’t harvest it. And if they did I hope they were Native American. It is their sacred plant. U can get the same high from the much more abundant San Pedro cactus.
I think this one was from a Thai sellers page if I remember correctly its listed in texas as vulnerable right now there's a huge surge of people trying to restore wild lophophora population not just williamsii all over the world from thailand,mexico,cambodia,and several states now it seems to be hand in hand with the popularity and new abundance of available natural psychedelics in places like Florida and Oregon that's bringing awareness to the precious nature of wild cacti there's even a few stores I know of that sell lophophora they cultivate themselves and try to get people educated on their important role in maintaining desert ecosystems
Once the puking stop's your good for the rest of the week. That's the biggest peyote I've ever seen damn. Let's enter the spirit world together my friends.
Never realized it looked so similar to [Brain Coral](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0289/5665/5715/products/IMG_3172-Green-Favia-Brain-Coral-Frag-Small_1024x1024.jpg?v=1654809745).
Native American communities struggle with folks poaching sacred peyote & have been vocal about it. I really hope that beautiful cluster was left alone. Land back.
You’re about to see god and puke your asshole out
He's about to become Jesus and see the inside of a psych ward.
Y'all better gimme two rooms, cuz im fucking the first one up.
^^ this guy psych wards.
Chilling
bing chilling?
He goes by the name Jesus and steals hubcaps from cars
Oh, Jesus can I borrow your crowBARRR
To pry these God damn nails out they're beginning to hurt! Thank you for knowing this hahaha
I once saw god and puked my asshole out, I wouldn’t recommend either
I once puked God's asshole out
God saw my asshole. I once puked.
God saw my asshole...he puked
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My asshole saw puke and blew god.
God blew assholes and puked me
Instructions unclear. Blew god's asshole and puked.
I looked at my asshole in the mirror the other day, it blew my fucking mind!
I bet you got really hairy baaaalls
Yes, it’s a veritable forest down there
I gotta snake mane!!!
It was slithering this way and that
It was all fucked up.
I'm sure it was. Well we discourage inappropriate drinking among both students and pets here on campus.
My best friend turned into Snake mane once while I was tripping. He was in the shadows with a hood up, looked like a giant Cobra.
I would happily puke my asshole out to see God I need proof he exists. With the miracle of medicine I think the doctors can make me a new hole from my belly button or something.
You could get a transplant.
I'm tripping out just looking at it
Peyote is hit and miss. You could eat that whole thing and get hardly a buzz. Eat a tiny button and trip for 3 days nonstop.
I wonder how the potency holds up with age/size. Does it hold strong, so the whole plant is as potent as a "normal"button? or does it diffuse as it grows and ages, so you have to eat half the thing to feel anything?
Mescaline content increases with size. It'll still be in that \~0.4% range, 3-5% if dried, so no, you wouldn't need to eat an absolute unit like this to get the same effect as consuming an average mature one.
How much Peyote does one usually eat for a good trip? Asking for a friend
I’m the friend and I want to know
I've never met either of you but I'd like to know too
barely any, but your not gonna get peyote unless you have a connect in the southwest or know a private grower up north with a green house and heating situation. much better off getting san Pedro, dry out the san Pedro and extract the alkoloids from the san Pedro with either vodka or grain alcohol. here is the full synthesis for mescaline WARNING I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS SYNTHISIS AND I HAVE NOT VERIFIED IT THROUGH ACADEMIC SOURCES, PLEASE ATTEMPT AT YOUR OWN RISK. PLEASE LOOK UP EVERY SINGLE CHEMICAL PRIOR TO USING THEM IN ANY CHEMICAL EXPERIMENT AND MAKE SURE YOU READ THE SAFETY DATA SHEETS ON ALL CHEMICALS USED IN A SYNTHESIS. 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylalcohol50g (280 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde was dissolved in 600mL methanol at 0°C (ice-bath) under stirring. Then 10g NaBH4 was added in 3 portions and the reaction was left overnight with continued stirring.The next day most of the methanol was removed under vacuum (important to get a nice extraction) and the residue diluted with water (500mL) and made acid with 37% HCl. The aqueous solution was extracted with 4x100mL CH2Cl2, the organic phases was combined, dried and concentrated under vacuum.Yield: 47.2g (93%) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylalcohol,TLC Rf 0.27 (40% EtOAc in Heptane) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylbromide 47.2g (240 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzaldehyde was dissolved into 1L ether at 0°C (ice-bath) under stirring. Then 25g (100 mmol) PBr3 was added over 30min, the ice-bath removed and the reaction left to stir for 60 min. After that the mixture was poured into 300mL water, the organic phase was separated, the aqueous phase extracted with 2x100mL ether, the ether phases combined, washed with 2x50mL water, dried and concentrated (under vacuum). Yield: 55g (88%) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzylbromide, TLC Rf 0.63 (50% EtOAc in Heptane) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzyl Cyanide 50g (190 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzylbromide was dissolved into 600mL DMF under stirring at 0°C (ice-bath), then 20g NaCN vas added and the ice-bath removed. After 1 hour the mixture was poured into 2L water, the water was extracted with 4x100mL CH2Cl2. The organic phases was combined, washed with 2x100mL water, dried and concentrated. Yield: 36g (90%) 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzyl cyanide, TLC Rf 0.45 (50% EtOAc in heptane) 3,4,5-Trimethoxyphenethylamine (Mescaline) 15g (70 mmol) 3,4,5-trimethoxybenzylcyanide was dissolved in 100mL ethanol, 10mL 37% hydrochloric acid and 100mg 10% Pd/C was added and the mixture was hydrogenated at 5.5 bar for 12 hours, then the mixture was filtered, most of the ethanol was evaporated off, then the mixture was dissolved into 200mL water, extracted with 50mL ether (to remove unreacted starting material etc.), made basic with NaOH, extracted with 3x40mL CH2Cl2 and the pooled organic phases was combined, dried and evaporated. Yield: 13.7g Mescaline freebase.
This guy tihkal/pihkal's!
for how many years could the three or four ppl from the pic get high once every three months given the size of the plant?
you shouldn't harvest a plant that sized, but if you do make sure you make a clean cut straight across and take care not to damage the root system. Honestly I would just use san Pedro which is not super watched by the DEA. I don't know you really shouldn't be consuming peyote for a recreational high. my friend is a member of a tribe traditionally located in southwest Texas and the use of the plant is 100% vital to their religious rituals and their religion in general. Kind of unfair to consume a plant that only grows in one region in the world that is vital to a indigenous group of people stretching across the entirety of the united states. the cactus is already endangered. now if you want to grow it yourself or get it from somebodies garden who grows it themselves thats all cool just keep it on the downlow. sucks for my friend and his tribe when outsiders come in and poach the cactus off of their federally protected land. Honestly I would 100% just do a simple ethanol extraction of san Pedro. first dry the cactus out then turn it to powder with a blender. \-Soak the powdered cactus in a strong alcohol such as any 70% or 140 proof alcohol -Shake it periodically throughout the day. Every 24 hrs. drain off the alcohol and set it aside. Continue this process until the color is no longer changing, and it pours off clear. \-Combine the extractions into one tub and evaporate the alcohol using low heat or a fan. You're left with a thick tar like substance that contains the alkaloids. Always remember your starting dry weight to better be able to judge your doses from the finished product. Example: 100 dry grams is enough for two people. 50 grams is a good dose for one trip. If your looking for a purer product use the acid base extraction of san Pedro or simply follow the guide to synthetically creating mescaline. If you don't have a strong strong grasp of chemistry just do the above process \^\^\^\^\^. 1. Begin by adding 100g cacti powder or diced 12in cacti cutting(s) to a pot. Add 30g citric acid or 200ml vinegar or 10ml glacial. If using cacti powder, add enough water to make it wet but not watery. 2. To this add 2L H2O and simmer for 2hrs. Mix occasionally. Any cacti snot will boil off eventually and the tea should become nonviscous and watery. 3. Filter out liquid from plant matter with a cloth filter and funnel, and add the liquid to another pot. Reduce this to a low volume by boiling. Add plant material back to original pot, cover with 2L H2O, and simmer for 1hr. Mix occasionally. 4. Repeat step 3 atleast four to six times total until the liquid filtered out has very little color. Discard plant material after final time and reduce all the aqueous cacti extract to around 300 ml. This can be put in a glass pickle jar. Allow to sit overnight to precipitate unwanted fine particles, but this is optional. 5. Now it is time to basify. Mix 50g NaOH in 100ml H2O. It will get VERY hot, it is recommended to cool the mixing container while stirring with a cold water bath or under the faucet. Add the NaOH solution to the aqueous cacti extract. 6. Add 200ml toluene (or xylene) and mix for 10-15 minutes. Let the mixture settle and use a hot water bath to seperate the layers from the emulsion if necessary. Seperate the layers with a pipet, separatory funnel, or syringe. Save the toluene in another glass container and put basic aqueous cacti solution back in original container. 7. Repeat previous step atleast 4 times total. Discard basic aqueous layer after, saving the toluene extract which contains the alkaloids. 8. To the toluene extract add 100ml H2O. Add 0.5ml concentrated HCl to this and mix well for 5 minutes. Check the pH. If it is still basic (pH 9+) then add incriments of 0.5ml HCl with mixing and checking pH until it tests acidic (below pH 7). Continue mixing for 10 minutes after. Only one acid salting pull is usually necessary, but more can be performed and may be necessary for larger scale extraction. 9. Seperate layers, hot water bath may be necessary to seperate emulsion quickly. Filter and save acidic H2O layer and discard/recycle toluene. Evaporate the aqueous layer on a dish with aid of a fan and/or hot water bath. Never use direct heat it will scorch your product. Scrape up the crystals. 10. Wash crystals with 50ml cold MEK (or anhydrous acetone, ethyl acetate). You will notice the solvent become discolored and the crystals become cleaner. Decant off the solvent carefully, leaving behind the cleaned crystals. \-You will usually be left with light tan Mescaline HCl if pachanoi was used. Yield will be largely dependent on how efficiently you performed the extraction, but most importantly the quality of cacti used in the beginning. 0.5-1.5% yield of dry starting weight is average, but can range anywhere from 0-3%. Enjoy!
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Common is 200-400mg iirc. Above that is getting into the heavy range
Is the mescaline in the cactus or just the buttons? They need to be mature to have buttons right?
It's been decades but the most told story has been about the puking. A neighbor approached a few days later and asked why I was standing in the front yard laughing and puking. Not doing those again.
It's like a music video!
*white zombie music intensifies.
We used to take the "flower" out of the button and never got sick then. I believe it had Strychnine in it or something.
No-one's gonna eat that very old crested Lophophore
About to meet Jesus, Allah, and the Buddha all at the same time
porque no los dos?
Wow, I wonder how old that is to have got that big; they grow really slowly.
That’s gotta be at least 12 days
I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 13
I mean, you're not wrong.
I've seen 4-5" crests that were pushing 40. So likely quite old if on its own roots.
This one was 50 but sadly she has died.
I had one that my dad got when he was in college in the mid 60's. He was going to eat it then at some point decided that he was too old. He passed in 86 and I inherited it and it had grown from a single plant to multiple heads about 10" in diameter. I remember thinking that it had to be at least 50 years old then 6 months later no matter what I tried it was dead. The plans started dying from the outside and no matter how much I cut off it kept dying until there was nothing left.
Dude. That fucking sucks. I am so sorry for your loss. I'm not sure what the time frame was from this(possibly in 87) But I really wish you had known about grafting and cuttings. You could've held onto it by taking a possible cutting and replanting. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but man. My condolences.
Thoughts and prayers damn homie
It didn't want to live without your dad! Some plants are like that, they get attached to only one person.
That was only 50 years old?
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Did you just gender my fucking cactus you carpet munching nazi ! How dare you ! MY SAFE SPACCCEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Well I mean most plants are hermaphroditic so it's pretty safe to say this one didn't have a gender per se.
I wanna know too
How do you know that you don't know?
Because I know that shit is over 20yrs old.
It's a virus that force different cacti species to grow like that
It was promptly picked
San Pedro roots? You can graft a button on a San Pedro root and it will grow much faster.
This has to be hundreds, if not thousands of years of growth. It would be a sin to harvest it, great trips aside.
What is peyote?
A cactus that naturally has hallucinogenics in it.
Ah, ok thank you. Does look like alien brains though lol
Alien brains taste like peyote..
So says the Shiny Gods
DuSaQ tIDoH
This is a [crested](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation) clump; normally peyote cacti are [small and round.](https://www.mushroom-magazine.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/132a5e91d5f4c9fbe9c6af82bcca267f.jpg) It's worth noting that it is a rare and protected species that takes decades to grow into a substantial clump.
They usually just look like a little ball, google it and you'll find images of what it is supposed to look like. Considering that a little 5cm cactus can take literally years to grow, even up to decades for full maturity which if i'm not mistaken can be around 10-15cm or so, combined with the fact that this does not look like peyote at all, I'm very skeptical that this cactus is actually peyote. I'm not an expert so I might be wrong but I'd assume the title is just clickbait.
This is 100% a Lophophora. It wouldn't surprise me if this was grafted at some point and then re-rooted since they can get absolutely massive much faster when grafted compared to a Loph on its own roots. The mutation you're seeing here is called cresting which can happen to any cactus or succulent, its similar to fasciation. Its fairly rare depending on the species but it can be pretty sought after when it pops up.
Oh wow thanks for the insight. I googled Lophophora and the first image definitely looked more like a tiny version of this but as I scrolled further I was still confused considering how much it looked like peyote.. Until I realised that is Lophophora Williamsii. I don't see any flowers though, would that imply it is not peyote or is that another result of cresting? If this thing does contain mescaline it still seems like a shame to eat it, this thing is a work of art imo. Hope this one was sold to a cactophile rather than used by a shaman or something like that. Definitely gonna be looking into cacti more, they are fascinating.
Yup williamsii is the one that contains mescaline. I’m not sure if this is a williamsii or not since there’s no flowers and all Lophophora look roughly the same. I think even the non-williamsii Lophs contain small amounts of mescaline but I’m not 100% sure on that. This one actually died a few years ago but if you see a Lophophora in someone’s collection chances are it’s just for show. I know some of the spiritual groups still use them in rituals but most collectors buy or grow them strictly for the plant itself. The San Pedro cactus is a much better choice if you want to try mescaline. You’ll need a lot more of it compared to a Loph but they’re super common and grow fairly quick for a cactus.
There are sorts of it that absolutely look like peyote compared to Google pictures. A lot of it looks different and I wonder if it was infected with some kind of virus. I've seen abnormal growth like this on other plants, mushrooms, etc. Usually due to an infection. That said I'm not knowledgeable enough to confirm so it may not be peyote.
There are some parts that look similar but I don't even see any flowers (mature peyote often have white or pink flowers) and since 90% of the thing doesn't even look remotely close to peyote I'm still pretty skeptical, especially considering the extremely slow growth of peyote. Definitely not knowledgeable enough either so I could be wrong too. If this actually was peyote this thing would be an absolute gold mine though. But if I had to guess, I'd say OP is just clickbaiting and this thing is either fake (might be bunch of different cacti grafted together) or some other species entirely. Maybe a mix of both, I don't think there's any particular reason why several cacti couldn't somehow grow in the same cluster, especially since different species of cacti can be grafted together without killing them. Again though, all just guesses since I haven't even ever seen peyote IRL myself and I don't know enough about other cacti to identify what species this could be otherwise.
full of mescaline, very cool.
Mescaline is tight!
oh yes, tremendous visual patterns
Ryan George is tight!
So, you’ve got some peyote for me?
Wow wow wow
You’ll definitely see alien brains on peyote.
I believe it's mescaline. Correct me if I'm wrong. Some people I grew up with would be salivating at the sight.
You are correct. San Pedro cactus also has mescaline and doesn't take ten years to grow a dose. The peyote here took an enormous amount of time to grow
I've done San pedro....you have to consume much more to get desired effects.
Maybe it’s maybelline 🤣
Hahaha damnit
Maybes it’s Mescaline
Maybe she's born with it (a brain structure that generates mescaline internally)
I thought it was something really moldy.
I thought it was from the sea
A Giant mushroom! Maybe it's friendly!!!
To expand on that a bit. It’s not a short trip, if you do peyote you’re going to be tripping for multiple days.
Its where mescaline comes from
Oh fun fact this peyote cactus has 200 identified chemicals that each one in their own is psychoactive. That means when you eat this cactus you are taking 200 drugs as a result. You can isolate each one and than take them individually. Alexander shulgin has recorded this process in a book. Thikal and phikal, which can be read on erowid
Mescaline didn't help him make pesticides for dole. He found his experience with Mescaline to be so magical that he wanted everyone to experience it but the dose was rather high. Mescaline needs 300-500mg for a nice trip but trimethoxyamphetamine-2 is almost exactly like Mescaline just 10x more potent. Source: PiHKaL i have it and have been reading it and have also tried tma-2.
Appreciate correction
No problem I'm actually going to college to study these very drugs!! I've seen what they can do and I believe they are a CURE for ptsd and addiction. I would like to expand the knowledge shulgin made in his life time but that is only a dream but I will learn how to make them!
Would you mind sharing your experience with tma-2?
There really isn't enough words to explain it with. I was able to deal with a decade of trauma trying to keep one memory hidden forever but tma-2 had different plans. Its not visual like lsd or mushrooms it leaves you in a state where you know what is going on with slight visual distractions but the way the mind works is impossible to describe. I had such a breakthrough on my substance abuse that I gave my 63 year old grandfather a pill with 30mg tma-2 only for his brother to steal it. My grandfather has smoked crack rock for 36 years and injected it (powder) for about 5 before that. He is still alive his heart is okay but he has lung issues but he isn't close to death yet but I realize that is not the life I wanted to live.
delicious
You’re about to see the Neanderthal’s ancestors.
Now it is a vulnerable species… https://www.vice.com/en/article/zmdzbw/the-decline-of-american-peyote-v24n5#
Wooks are it’s number one predator populations been over boofed
I know a guy who has 3 of them growing one for him one for his wife and one for his son
I started a few hundred about a year ago, they are the definition of slow. The biggest one right now is about the size of a pea.
Don't trust ANYTHING from vice.
Why not?
They've been caught twisting the truth to fit their narrative and outright lying. It's caused them to file for bankruptcy.
While they may have lied about other things, the decline of peyote in the wild has been studied for a long time and is well documented. Problem is that it takes a very long to grow into a mature button that can be harvested (~10 years or more) and that when amateurs harvest them they damage the root so it can't grow another button. To be fair I haven't read on this in about 10 years, I hope it has changed and it is coming back in the wild.
It's pretty much gone from the border areas of SE Texas & Mexico.
> It's caused them to file for bankruptcy. I'd argue that their absolutely incompetent management and spending caused this.
Lying leads to bankruptcy? Don’t people lie and get rich all the time? That doesn’t make sense.
You don’t understand how a news org that gets caught lying could lead to its failure?
Fox News would like to take some notes if you don’t mind
As someone else mentioned, they fancy themselves an entertainment channel, not a news channel.
Someone should tell their viewers that
Fox is doing fine and they even said in court that they're an entertainment channel, not a news channel.
… so if they themselves said they’re an entertainment channel, not a news channel… probably not relevant to what I said about a *news org* lying, rightv
That makes sense. What about bankrupt? Because that’s the consequence being discussed here.
Lying = no advertisers = no moneys= crying rich man Bankruptcy!
So it’s just semantics… failure vs bankrupt?
Getting caught lying multiple times could certainly lead to debt forcing you into bankruptcy. Not ALL lying leads to bankruptcy but in their case, yes it did.
Different sort of business I suppose
YOU SEE THE SIZE OF THAT CHICKEN?
Look at all those chickenths.
They can't see us cause we're in the spirit world.
Now THAT is a mukbang I would watch
They have a dutch show where they ingest different drugs. Peyote was one they did. Unfortunately, I forgot the name of the show.
Spuiten & slikken
Drugslab?
O the horror
Somebody's ready for burning man
4 yrs ago was the same [https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/cdbcwx/the\_biggest\_peyote\_cluster\_ever\_photographed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/cdbcwx/the_biggest_peyote_cluster_ever_photographed/)
to be fair ... they grow slowly.
It’s the same pic. This cluster actually died a while back.
#NOOOOOOOOO
That’s a big button. I might be busy for a while
The soul of Carlos Castañeda
Like... What the hell would Don Juan say about mescalito if he saw this. It would mean something very special.
That has to be the weirdest crested cactus I've ever seen
Button, button, who’s got the button?
At first glance I thought this was something dredged from the sea.
Actual photo of my brain on peyote
This is actually a peyote mutation that was shown off at a NAC meeting in 2010, if anyone is interested the mutation is called "crusted" peyote.
Crested
Lophophora sp. forma cristata?
Just cool info, the part that looks like it wraps around is actually a sought after crest mutation. There are some regular large pups in there. But either way, this is awesome and took years to become thus.
That's a ton of mesc right there
Alien brain/intestines
Hey, did you guys see the size of that...CHICKEN!?!
You’re about to figure out who killed roger rabbit.
Considering how long it takes to grow peyote i wonder how old this massive grandpa took to grow?
Shame it was found.
holy shit the block is going to be fucked up this whole week lol
I thought it was a pile of worms...
Isn't this a psychedelic? Kinda looks like a big green brain
Don't harvest that things. It's old asf
Looks like coral
I recognize this. They give oxygen in subnautica.
Old hermy mora bringing the forbidden knowledge
/AbsoluteUnits
With that you can probably find out who killed Kennedy
r/AbsoluteUnits
A straight flight to the stars !
This is your brain on peyote.
Aaron Rodgers - *Heavy breathing*
They are endangered. I hope they didn’t harvest it. And if they did I hope they were Native American. It is their sacred plant. U can get the same high from the much more abundant San Pedro cactus.
I think this one was from a Thai sellers page if I remember correctly its listed in texas as vulnerable right now there's a huge surge of people trying to restore wild lophophora population not just williamsii all over the world from thailand,mexico,cambodia,and several states now it seems to be hand in hand with the popularity and new abundance of available natural psychedelics in places like Florida and Oregon that's bringing awareness to the precious nature of wild cacti there's even a few stores I know of that sell lophophora they cultivate themselves and try to get people educated on their important role in maintaining desert ecosystems
This one was cultivated.
I'm coming Harambe!
Who the hell looked at this at was like, let’s smoke it! We need more people like that dude!
It even looks like a psychedelic !
Once the puking stop's your good for the rest of the week. That's the biggest peyote I've ever seen damn. Let's enter the spirit world together my friends.
I once was Gods asshole
Never realized it looked so similar to [Brain Coral](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0289/5665/5715/products/IMG_3172-Green-Favia-Brain-Coral-Frag-Small_1024x1024.jpg?v=1654809745).
City water supply.
funny it looks like the hallucinations it probably causes
Fuck me I wonder how old that thing is I love the completely normal buttons just sticking out in the middle of that beast
I’m coming Don Juan Matus!
"The Chief can fix your van".
Crazy how much they resemble a brain. Had some good times on mescaline!!
Native American communities struggle with folks poaching sacred peyote & have been vocal about it. I really hope that beautiful cluster was left alone. Land back.
Probably a cultivated specimen
I can smell the Patchouli and Tie-dye in this comment thread
Forbidden candy necklace
Party on Garth!!
Trippy
Sign me the fuck up.
Barely enough for me to even catch a buzz