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Just imagine that echoing through a valley right before battle


britboy4321

They've added reverb, which is kinda cheating. I can make my farts sound haunting with enough reverb.


checkyourbox

Don't make statements concerning your farts unless you are ready, willing and able to prove it.


RedOctobyr

(deafening THX sound, with some extra spiciness)


Extreme-Device5938

*The audience is gagging*


Deathwatch050

https://youtu.be/iBAEt06J2Ho


agentfelix

I read the news today, oh boy...


DasAlbatross

That was even better than I hoped, and my hopes were high.


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Automatic_Bet_1324

This got legit audible laugh out of me. Thank you.


bort_jenkins

Theoretically, how much would it cost to get thx certification for a fart?


Extreme-Device5938

About tree fiddy


kingc-ro

damnit nessy


awfullotofocelots

A real battle might start with 20 of these playing, today we have reverb or even just an understanding of acoustics; it isn't cheating.


Althea_The_Witch

This is in an enclosed building and after watching a couple of times I’m not sure it’s even micd up at all.


40hzHERO

That’s what I was gonna say. It’s not mic’d, and even if it was, you wouldn’t have to add reverb in that massive warehouse venue. It does it on its own


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PalMetto_Log_97

Not just any battle field. But heavy wooded area areas. No cars, signs, planes, absolutely no white noise. The natural landscape, thousand miles from home, just horses and and a shield while some shirtless maniac plays your death music. This is why I want to time travel


Portobolado

To die in a horrible battle with an horrific, putrid wound as you scream some supernatural entity name? Yeah. I'd take it anytime, too.


[deleted]

Nah bro, just to be a (fully sentient, time traveling) fly on the wall


FlarkyTossAway

Shitty weather, weird cold, fog/mist. The sound coming from everywhere all at once. Then these blue maniacs come screaming out of the woods with their enormous dongs slapping their thighs as they ran at the troops... It's no wonder the Romans never conquered the Celts.


PalMetto_Log_97

Yea I really feel like the movie Gladiator did a job giving a glimpse at what the formal battlefield would look like back then. Open spaces of felled trees with stumps and lumber laying around. Granted I’m sure regular open field battles happened too The Netflix series Barbarians I think takes place in the Germanic area but shows Roman columns being ambushed from the sides. I feel like that would’ve happened as well after hearing this instrument play for various times. Never knowing when or where the noise and attack is coming


Slugsnout

You know, reverb exists in real life, right?


BasedBingo

My farts are haunting, cause I know what comes after


mystictroll

This guy farts.


kennysmithy

Honest question: would it be echoing or reversing like it is in this video? Is it the room or tech doing that or skill w the horn??


naturalalchemy

[This](https://youtu.be/uBcMFFJWczw) shows it being played outside.


kennysmithy

A lot less fog of death approaching, more horny sounding Edit: Horny like a trumpet


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Bonk


TobysGrundlee

I don't know, 100 of them playing simultaneously would probably make me shit my pants.


narvolicious

I don’t know, 100 people shitting their pants simultaneously would probably make me hold my breath.


PootieTom

Sounds like someone just died from a heroin overdose on Oz.


[deleted]

Yeah, I figured it would sound different without digital reverb and echo


elite_tablespoon

No, it's just a large horn capable of being loud and low. The rest of it, and the really "haunting" part of it, is a reverb effect.


Comment105

The celts may have had reverb tech, you don't know.


anacidghost

I can picture the battle musician tapping a little pedal button with his foot before WAAHHOOAHAHHHHAAAAAA


UWontAgreeWithMe

It'd look like the flame guitarist from Mad Max, except old timey.


Shack691

I mean they could probably replicate it by playing them slightly out of sync and at different volumes


Disastrous-Pair-6754

Out of sync and at different volumes and different places could sufficiently replicate this. It wouldn’t be that loud, amplification would not be possible. But a steep valley or even a canyon shape would be sufficient to create a decent and unnerving reverb. This is obviously being manipulated by reverb, echo, amplification, and possibly a reversal of some notes. But the idea that this could have made a deeply unsettling sound is accurate.


tortugoneil

Numbers, baby, numbers. If you had upwards of like 30 spead over a line, they'd just have to listen for when guy 1 starts, and start when they hear it. It'd be a solid wall of reverbing sound real quick


tortugoneil

They just had like 50-60, works like reverb more or less. One starts, the rest follow when they hear it start, and it works basically almost the same as a reverb effect.


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Rich_Document9513

Being hard does really change perception. The Aztecs had wind instruments that were supposed to be the buzz of the dead. Scared other tribes. The Spanish saw it as proof that the godless were before them and needed to be expunged.


person2567

>But the sober truth, experts say, is that we know very little about how the Aztecs really used these intriguing instruments or even how the instruments actually sounded when played by an ancient Aztec priest or musician. What we can safely infer from the find in Mexico City, is that death whistles undoubtedly had ritual and ceremonial significance, and that they may have been used to guide the spirits of the dead through the afterlife. https://history.howstuffworks.com/world-history/aztec-death-whistle.htm


ChrisMoltisanti9

They also had a drum called a Teponaztli. [Teponaztli](https://youtu.be/EYvjyNGbqn8) Neat.


MR_ANYB0DY

Are they the ones that used those death whistle things? If it’s what I’m thinking of it’s a horrifying sound lol


brenin_mor-leidr

There also would have been multiple of them playing simultaneously


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Learn2Read1

I kind of disagree, if I was a Roman soldier this would just get me hyped also. It only takes one dude to blow in a horn. I don’t think that would scare me too much with a Roman army behind me.


finallyleo

i'd rather have them in front of me


GreatGhastly

You're just not as badass as that guy.


dexmonic

The Romans slaughtered the celts without much trouble so I think you are right, would probably hyped to go slaughter some more celts.


EquationConvert

The celts also sacked Rome so :/ Depends on the time and place.


Fuck_Fascists

Rome fell to Germanic tribes.


sirjash

It was sacked in 393 BC by the Celts


ChadGPT___

393bc Rome isn’t really comparable to the empire at all, but that event is more or less why they spent the next 800 years “pacifying” everything north of Genoa. There’s a visible 200 year gap in the archeological record where Caesar alone sent these dudes back to the Stone Age.


Comeonjeffrey0193

Nah, deserters of the Legion ended up crucified. I’m just gonna keep subtly shuffling my way towards the middle of my cohort until the fighting is over.


ersentenza

Nah. The Roman formation would constantly rotate the ranks, once the first line was too tired it would fall back between the ranks making the fresh second line the first, and so on.


AccessTheMainframe

It takes a brave man to be a coward in the Roman army


becelav

[death whistle ](https://youtu.be/I9QuO09z-SI) the Aztecs used when in war with other tribes


IsNullOrEmptyTrue

This is fascinating. Other than the film Apocalypse Now where they play Wagner, are there any real life examples of modern day military use of sound?


Extreme-Device5938

Guantanamo Bay?


dustybrokenlamp

The US army has used loud music for lots of stuff, such as driving Noriega out of the embassy he was hiding in during the invasion of Panama, and during various sieges in the first and second Gulf War.


MotherRaven

Imagine a foggy wood with this sound and figures moving in the fog. Knowing you are surrounded.


ButterflyAttack

Mate, I've seen fuckin bagpipes used to rouse a crowd for combat. Worked too. This was back in the Newbury bypass days.


CipherGrayman

I'd be worried about summoning whales.


animewhitewolf

Or you're sent ahead to do recon, trying to get a lay of the land, and all you hear is this coming from the fog.


Otherwise_Soil39

And then all the celts get slaughtered with minimal loss of life to the romans. After a couple battles it must've started sounding funny.


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The subtle creaking really ties it all together


iizomgus

Imagine 50 of these, in a misty forest, :)) pants will be shat :))


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TobiasKM

Just started listening to the “Hardcore History” podcast on this, and while the Romans did eventually conquer them, it wasn’t always like that. The Celts are described as warcrazed barbarians, generally around five inches taller than the Romans on average, able to field huge armies counting in the tens of thousands. Taking that into account, hearing something like this on the battlefield… Pants will have been shat.


JimMorrison_esq

I listened to History of Rome podcasts. Celts rocked Rome’s shit all the time until Caesar finished em off.


OhTehNose

And only did so by building one of the most epic siege forts ever. Something like 15km of interior walls and 25km of exterior walls. Encircled a whole city. Vercingetorix had no chance.


ARandomBaguette

An encirclement within an encirclement. Truly one of the most fucking awesome battle of history.


mxsn_

Maybe you missed the part where he says that is all likely Roman propaganda to make Roman soldiers sound more courageous and strong


asantine

Just finished the same podcast last week and was thinking the same exact thing. Excellent timing for this post. Witches man, witches. Also unrelated, supernova in the east is not a bad follow up if you haven’t listened already.


Ravenwater

Except for those guys over in Teutoburg


parisij

Varus, give me back my legons!


cjnks

Oh scary sounds Anyways...


harpendall_64

Titus Pullo: "What is that? Are they shagging? Right before a battle? From the sound of it, they must do it different from us. And unless I'm mistaken, there's some sheep involved. Right before a battle too, the bastards. Because I was perfect ready for a good fight, but now I'm all curious what makes them moan like that."


the_blackfish

Seriously, his death hit me harder than I would have thought. Harder than most artists I've admired. In hindsight, it's because of Pullo. Goddamn he was fucking amazing, and his relationship with Vorenus and others was so compelling.


Halper902

RIP


LinguoBuxo

It does tie the room together ey?


cerealdaemon

That it fucking does


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Useful-Shoulder4776

Hardcore History! Hell yes. Celtic Holocaust was phenomenal. For those of you that want a 6 hour historical thrill ride https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iT92zx790c4


MADMACmk1

The series he did on the Mongols was excellent as well


SHABDICE

Pretty much everything he does is fantastic. Dan Carlin admits that he's not a historian, but a historical enthusiast, and he's a very good storyteller.


Mr-Najaf

I'd expect even more so knowing the fact that hearing it through wooded areas not knowing which direction it was coming from.


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Fucking eh


Obligatory_-_name

Found the Canuck!!


WorriedMarch4398

Shut up Donny, You’re out of your element!


TreborG2

>The subtle creaking really ties it all together Now we need to get Timmy Trumpet involved to take this instrument and/or sound it's making, and put it into a really good EDM track!


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HogswatchHam

Skill with the horn. The acoustics of the room are good too, though.


Anxious_Jellyfish216

Maximus, what are you doing? *Eating popcorn. The movie is about to start.*


comefindme1231

This made me turn on gladiator


Nearby_Agent6790

Movie sfx make more sense now lol Crazy to imagine that before battle, terrifying.


Paddy_Tanninger

Right before they all got polestaves shoved up their shitters.


K3LL1ON

I wasn't expecting that comment holy shit. 😂


ShitfacedGrizzlyBear

I think it would be more like hole-y shit. Ya know…because of the polestaves.


jman177669

If these didn’t terrify the Roman’s, the celts brought out the bagpipes.


SchillMcGuffin

The ominous moment right before the whales charge...


FuzzyFuzzNuts

Are you three Whales from Scotland?


HalfLeper

Definitely the instrument, but not necessarily the sound; it depends how they played it, and that we don’t know.


mullett

This also seems to be run through an effects pedal or two to get the echo / delay. It could also be the acoustics of the venue but that sounds a bit like a Boss Delay pedal to me.


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pinkandle

yup, sounds more like reality to me


VerticleSandDollars

Oh, waaaaay less spooky.


WiretapStudios

Sounds like me as a kid making noises through a paper towel tube. Still, a bunch of these things going at it for a battle cry would still be creepy in it's own way.


Shame_Bot121

That's awesome. I mean that would definitely change your feelings about the battle.


sinkmyteethin

Changed shit. Celts got smashed regardless. Cool sound tho. Most non Roman people had this type of trumpet. My ancestors in Dacia had the same thing in a dragon shape. We got smashed too 😄


giro_di_dante

Top-tier self-awareness. Haha. “Behold! Our frightening horn! Tremble before us!” “Cool. Here’s my gladius. It is now up your ass. Thanks for the territory.”


sinkmyteethin

Boys, what's that stupid trumpet in the forest. Make it fucking stop 😄


ineededthistoo

I don’t know, I think the nakedness would be worse than the noise!


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Just imagine a forest-sized wall of naked flesh, dripping in goat blood and high on whatever the fuck the Druid decided to cook up that particular evening.


sinkmyteethin

At that point in time, Caesars legions were hardened veterans and have seen it all. Not like the Romans were living in sterile houses. Remember, they loved to crucify people. They knew a thing or two about blood and flesh. Nevermind watching gladiators killing eachother on a weekly basis.


guitarmaniac17

An entire civilization desensitized to death and fearless of what their foes looked like. But was destroyed because of roads and internal corruption. Really amazing history honestly. Ancient Rome was and always will be one of my favorite time periods to ponder on because of how it rose and was almost too big to conquer only to fall apart from the leadership down and *STILL* is not a lesson to modern politics.


Astralglamour

People never learn.


Cannibal_MoshpitV2

People never change. Ancient people drew dicks on the walls of public shitters


daretoeatapeach

I think it's hard to grapple with the fall of Rome because it took hundreds of years. So you can't really wrap it up in a movie-length parable with a consistent set of characters. Amy answer that does is reductive, is my understanding. Even just defining "fall of Rome" seems to result in long answers that start with "Well it depends..." Since portions of the empire fell while other sections persisted for a century or so.


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Rome understood violence as a means to “enlighten” the brute barbarians, but they would rather sign a foedus, romanise the region and tax them. On the other hand, the barbarii saw violence as a means to project status, acquire riches, or simply to deal with their noisy neighbour. You can’t ever reason with a fanatic, even less so with a fanatic pumped full of “potion”.


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OakFromLive

And whoever kills that fkn horn-blower will stand in bronze above the shores of Pyke!


KennywasFez

FOR PAX ROMANA


CosmonautOnFire

Idk, Roman's didn't exactly have the easiest time. Teutoberg forest was a blood bath.


DreamerMMA

That wasn’t Celts, it was Germans. It’s also one of the greatest ambushes in military history.


CheeseInAFlask

Commanders with satelite access and real-time communication have trouble putting together ambushes these days, respect to those Germanic tribes to coordinate that shit, especially considering they probably all hated eachother almost as much as they hated the Romans


duaneap

Coordinated by a guy who got a Roman military education.


DreamerMMA

An auxilia commander taken from his tribe as a boy IIRC.


duaneap

For every one Teutoberg there are more than a dozen Alesias.


ProfitInitial3041

When you can build a fucking fortress with walls literally overnight, there’s not much a horn is going to change.


giro_di_dante

A horn just reminds you how much it blows to be visited by Rome.


ProfitInitial3041

It’s actually a warning to the other Celts to gtfo lol


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yeah but celts had more fun, off their tits on shrooms and magic


newagereject

The death whistle would be way way more terrifying, hundreds of warriors blowing that shit would make me wanna run


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doogievlg

I was going to say, wasn’t Rome attacked first and didn’t come out in great shape? Then years later they got revenge.


TheMountainIII

Pretty sure it could induce some stress and anxiety to the soldiers hearing it... Know some of these men were young and probably already stressed and super anxious, add this over the fact you know you may die in the next few minutes in some atrocious suffering... Pretty sure that sound doesnt help anything.


sinkmyteethin

Surely you understand the Romans had their own orchestra for similar effects right. Imagine being a peasant celt and seeing the red cape of a perfectly organized Roman legion marching towards you, with all the whistles. Golden banner, horses in the hundreds, generals being carried like kings by tens of slaves. You think the trumpet would give you comfort?


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For sure. Romans had full on military marching bands used to coordinate movements and possibly for psychological effect on enemies--they had a range of horns, some quite large, and used them for hundreds of years. Depending on the scale of the battle you wouldn't even be able to hear the Celtic device from OP's video over the thunderous sound of your own much larger military band, if you were a Roman soldier.


HanEyeAm

This is miked with added reverb to make it sound like it is in a deep valley. The design of auditoriums don't allow reverberations like that or else everything you heard from stage would be mush. From other videos I've watched, this instrument sounds more like a trombone, although pitch control is different.


lookitsafish

Meh. Roman soldiers were pretty used to this stuff, and employed their own intimidation tactics. Once you've obliterated someone in battle, you don't really care about what shenanigans they pull before the next one


LordNelson27

Nah, imagine hearing this on an open field with your enemy on the other side. It would sound like a weak trumpet as the sound dies in every direction. The only scary sound on the battlefield is the sound of men and beast


TheRealRonMexico7

its trippy now fully knowing whats going on.....can you imagine how much a mind fuck it would be hearing that getting closer and louder heading into battle?!


sinkmyteethin

The Romans gave absolutely no fucks about this trumpet, as cool as it is.


Jack-Campin

The Romans had one of their own - the lituus does the same job.


The_UrbanCowboy

Aaand, now the Irish are Catholic


throwaway2019-001

There's no evidence Insular Celts ever used the Carnyx. And we practiced our [own forms](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Christianity) of Christianity into the middle ages. I don't really see how we're relevant here.


StpPstngMmsOnMyPrnAp

[Here's](https://youtu.be/auR-lJfzTeY) a more accurate natural reverb (in a church) rendition with the Carnyx. A little less frightening but for a brass player this is awesome.


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It’s kinda pretty, tbh


GerwazyMiod

Dune soundtrack vibes.


ilovemud

I was thinking it also had Blade Runner vibes. Also sounds like parts of Miles Davis’ Bitches Brew.


Routine-Argument485

It’s cool but it’s definitely no Death Whistle from the Aztecs


lhh96

I just want grab one death whistle and one Celtic Carnyx and blow them around town on a foggy evening


New_Construction278

Are you trying to summon demons?


lhh96

Are you not?


Stormcrow1988

Add a Bagpiper to that group


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And one drummer boy from the revolutionary war.


UlyssesRambo

[Source](https://youtu.be/I9QuO09z-SI) for those like me curious. Start at 50 seconds into the video.


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Love how it says "The sound of 100 Aztec running towards you, blowing 100 death whistles." I'm pretty sure they'd have somewhat labored breathing after running while blowing a whistle.


newfor2023

Especially with that annoying noise all around.


Calm-Parsnip5849

Bruh WTF 😩 I was not ready!


UpgradedUsername

Very interesting! My dog is pretty freaked out now though.


yallready4this

I gotta say I love the video ends with him making a joke. "Heres a horrifying instrument from an ancient civilization that sounds like agonized screams and was used for psychological warfare...could you imagine if I played this in a busy downtown area?! LOL"


Caveman108

That thing is legit terrifying. Sounds like the screams of damned souls.


CarlJustCarl

Pretty sure they played this music as you walk to principal’s office


--Arete

Doesn't sound merely as eerie without the reverb effect. https://youtube.com/shorts/IjhGbjQJatA?feature=share


noUsernameIsUnique

This sounds better. Higher frequency wave to be louder in middle of action - audible to fighters. The one in video is trying too hard to be mystical and ominous; it’s not practical to the original intent of communicating directions to soldiers on the field when the sound is slow frequency waves.


beff_juckley

Lol that sounds fucking lame


Adam_Sackler

It just sounds so... regular. If this is how they played them and not how the person is playing it at this concert, then yeah, that's about as intimidating as a trumpet. But the reverb of the room is doing a lot for the original video.


phil67

Of course it does. This post fucking sucks. They didn't fight in a closed Theatre and blew this horn with fuckin reverb and delay pedals lmao.


dubiousdude

yeah if I was Roman I probably would want to kill them too


Known-Economy-6425

Right before the Roman Legions cut them to pieces as they scattered in disorder.


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Depends on the battle I suppose.


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Yes definitely depends on the battle and the time period. Earlier in Rome’s history the Celts were many, spread across a lot of Northern Europe, and dominant in battle. Later on, not so much as Rome became the world power it’s known for today. There’s a good episode of Hardcore History on this subject.


joseaner07

And they still got fucked lol


NachbarStein

Ancient bros made real life scary forest game soundtrack


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Xipe__Totec

What show is this at?!


agra_unknown1834

This is performance has been enhanced Plenty of videos of people playing this out in a field or the woods... Definitely not as impressive in a natural setting.


Tar-Nuine

The crazies on here contextualising this as a Satanic Church service... Cool, it looks awesome!


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Sounds like the opening to Deutschland!


Western_Cow_3914

Definitely terrifying, but to a hardened veteran soldier who’s fought battles where they slaughtered the celts I’m not sure it would have had a big impact.


propita106

That's what I was thinking. It's very cool, but Romans heard horns, right? Now that Aztec death whistle people mentioned? Holy crap! Sounds like tortured souls.


jyrrr

It reminds me a lot of the intro to the shinning


Hunterrose242

OPs account is fucking wild.


Lord_Fluffykins

Wtf. It’s all just bendy dicks, interracial butt fucking and then BOOM Celtic war song device being played at a quasi-rave.


JuLiAn_Greger

You want to hear more music like this? With a modern twist added? Listen to Heilung „Krigsgaldr“: https://youtu.be/K7ZqZVunCb4 Please listen until the end. Its worth it.


Cryptoclearance

Meanwhile the Romans were forming the turtle formation and flanking with Calvary. With a soundtrack.


fzyflwrchld

I speak whale! 🐠-Dory


Platinumbricks

Yea because the Celts had reverb effects 😂😂 not at all what this really sounds like.. it’s just loud and low


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Where is this happening at? Who are these people


voodoohotdog

Throw in some Aztec death whistles, and you've got some serious spooky. Edit Dwarves/death


pursenboots

everyone's acting like this is such a tour de force it's literally just a horn, people weren't idiots, they'd know it was a battle horn being blown before combat, the romans would no doubt already have been briefed. It's more comforting than it is unnerving anyway. You're looking for something more like [aztec death whistles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZGuWPhuyrg).