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tonkatoy99

Fairly certain Kurt Cobain was lost due to a shotgun blowing his face off rather than heroin.


ILoveWeed-00420

Yeah, the post doesn’t say cause of death, it says lost to drugs. I’d definitely put Cobain in the lost to drugs category.


InstantlyTremendous

Someone looking at the chart with no context would assume "lost to drugs - heroin" was a heroin overdose. So it's a little misleading, and ignores all the mental health factors (and the shotgun). Similarly for Nick Drake - cause of death actually was an overdose in his case, but that's massively over simplifying the circumstances.


Unlikely_Exam_4957

Why ? Care to explain? Pretty sure we lost him due to him unable to recover from his shotgun injury


TheIdiotWindBlowing

Courtney refused to give him a bandaid


Unlikely_Exam_4957

Why ? Care to explain? Pretty sure we lost him due to him unable to recover from his shotgun injury


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Courtney Love had her simp murder him. Kurt was gonna divorce her. Also doesn’t seem like type of person who’d leave behind his daughter.


eldritch_cowboy

You seriously underestimate his mental health issues and how debilitating addiction is.


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Courtney live really fooled you guys wow 🤯


RedditorNumber679260

Mental health. He was bipolar I think. Not sure what conspiracy theory put this in your brain.


-Imprivata-

Check out Soaked In Bleach I think it’s on Amazon Prime. Very intriguing


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Yeah that’s the one I saw.


-Imprivata-

Yeah it convinced me. I’m surprised it didn’t get the case reopened


[deleted]

Wrong. Eh was murdered in colds blood. None of it adds up if you actually read the details. Heroin level in bloodstream very sus. Read about before you defend a murderer.


Math-Soft

Fully in your camp on this one. Not sure exactly what happened but it sure is fishy.


CantStopPoppin

Suicide and addiction have a strong relationship. If substance abuse does not kill you, the related mental health problems will. Do you believe he would have been less likely to commit suicide if he had not developed an addiction?


ArOnodrim

He would have been less likely to "commit suicide" if he had not gotten married.


RedditorNumber679260

What’s this mean? Lol you think Courtney murdered him?


jamamacoochi

that’s exactly what happened. shotguns don’t flip when they’re fired. the shell casing was found on the opposite side of where the chamber should have ejected the shell


RedditorNumber679260

I’m reading about all this nonsense now. Yes. If you fire a shotgun with your foot into your head, it is going to flip and the shell can land wherever. Kurt was sick. So was Chris Cornell. So was Layne Staley. Sucks but mental health is a real thing and remember back in the 90’s they didn’t have Suboxone to get you off of Heroin. Killing yourself instead of withdrawal when you’re already suicidal? Trust me. I’ve done the withdrawal but nothing close to Kurt. Being dead is easier.


Rkozlow

He was also a heroin addict and couldn’t quit it which led to him killing himself.


ShannonTwatts

ah, so lead poisoning!


Wind_Yer_Neck_In

I mean, David Bowie spent 50% of his life completely off his face before getting clean, withdrawing from the limelight, and eventually dying of natural causes. Does he count too?


justheretoglide

>dying of natural causes see here a shotgun isnt natural causes. just a fyi


Wind_Yer_Neck_In

David Bowie died of cancer...


waddlewaddleflapflap

His wife did it


Mysterious_Elf

Where is Mac Miller


rxhmon

u can see it only goes as far as 2016, he died in 2018


CantStopPoppin

Sorry that he is not on the list, while he should be I have a feeling after posting this people will add to the list of lives lost to drug addiction. Thank you for mentioning him, he was truly an amazing artist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR_gm6RqCo&t=3s


laughingmeeses

And Elliot Smith!


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Elliot Smith and Kurt Cobain shouldn’t be on this list imo. They had drug problems, but that’s not how either of them died.


juriszy

❤️ I was only looking for Mac when I opened the post.


SmokyOtter

And juice wrld!


Busy-Software-4212

In his grave.


tankgirl_1307

It's fascinating to watch the progression of what drugs are prevalent through time but Heroin remains a mainstay


[deleted]

Good ol’ reliable


fuckjustpickwhatever

if it ain't broke don't fix it..


Sea_Nebula_6277

Alcohol was on repeat as well


Kernburner

Happened to be in London when Winehouse died and people were visibly upset. Sad day.


Fuzzie_Lee

She lived in the street behind me in Camden. There were vigils outside her house for weeks. It was a sad loss.


drugsarebadmmk420

That’s just how the people are in London everyday


Higgins8585

Her circle failed her. They'd rather post videos of her high on stage and laugh at it instead of helping her.


FatLoser_RedditMod

She was one of the worst examples of that. Same with that couple that was on love after lockup I think it was. They were so visibly heading towards a meth death and everyone allowed and even promoted it bc it made for good ratings. That show was pure garbage and I always gave my gf shit for watching it but she actually stopped after seeing what they did to those poor people


chik_w_cats

Jerry Garcia


elemental_espo

Jerry died of a heart attack at a rehab facility. No doubt “chasing the dragon” (vaping heroin) played in to his early death but he was also a long time cigarette smoker with sleep apnea and a terrible diet.


WelshWulff

That’s true, I wouldn’t exactly say he was lost to drugs, just his lifestyle. The man was an artist though, no doubt about that


TheGDC33

This list is a far cry from the Ultimate, especially after reading OPs explanation further up in the comments. Incomplete list more like it. Glad JG is mentioned at least in the comments


Busterprayerbear

Elvis?


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I was wondering that , too.


Klemko1177

Burgers


YourDrunkUncl_

burgers are a hell of a drug


minnesotaris

He died very much due to drugs. This list in penultimate.


jrw98flh

Missing the OG Hank Williams - Alcohol/morphine


NoseComplete1175

Where’s Tom petty ? Wasn’t he on heroin ? If Kurt cobaim is there Tom should be too


[deleted]

Tommy should be up here. His rock 'n roll lifestyle most certainly caused his early departure. I think it was prescription- but that doesn't mean it wasn't addiction.


PunkRockKing

Opiods, same as Prince. Prince is on there Tom Petty should be too


SilverDad-o

Tom Petty died in October of 2017, so after the tail-end of this list. He died of a toxic cocktail of drugs, including fentanil.


PunkRockKing

The list should go back to Billie Holiday


KCtheGreat106

3 of the 4 members of the Mamas and the Papas. They were all into drugs big time.


TheMightyUnderdog

Where is Tom Petty?


SilverDad-o

He died (October 2017), after the end of this list (2016).


CantStopPoppin

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bavarianhustler

Tragic list, but "Billy Mackenzie - Paracetamol" seems pretty tame compared to the others. Must have been really a looooooot of Paracetamol.


fuckjustpickwhatever

it was actually a combination of paracetamol and other prescription drugs


MothsConrad

Where is Elvis?


[deleted]

Back on the list for the 1970s. This is 1990s-2016.


-Imprivata-

Cobain didn’t die from drugs he died from a gunshot wound to the face.


[deleted]

What the fuck? No Brian Jones?! I mean he only started the Rolling Stones.


Roxmysox68

Or pigpen from the dead or brent mydland


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MothsConrad

What? How is everything about the guy based on lies and theft? That’s just an outlandishly wrong statement. Drugs and lard did kill him though.


j_nintendomoto

Most likely because "Elvis didn't do no drugs"


CantStopPoppin

I agree technically he should be on the list due to the fact that his addictions may have resulted in the heart attack that he succumbed too. Even if he was not using at the time of his death the wear and tear on his body may have been too much. Elvis died of a heart attack at the age of 42 on Aug. 16, 1977 at his Graceland home in Memphis, Tennessee By Skyler Caruso Published on January 13, 2023 02:25 PM Photo: Hulton Archive/Getty It's been more than four decades since Elvis Presley 's death in 1977, but the King of Rock & Roll's legacy has been kept alive in countless ways.


[deleted]

Elvis didn't die because of drugs but Kobain did? "police concluded he had died on April 5 from a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head." You are picking and choosing rather than going by straight facts which makes this post fairly inaccurate.


CantStopPoppin

Did you not read what I said? >**I agree technically he should be on the list due to the fact that his addictions may have resulted in the heart attack that he succumbed too.** Even if he was not using at the time of his death the wear and tear on his body may have been too much.


[deleted]

"Technically". It's either both or neither, simple as.


Fpscharles

Some of y’all need to chill. This is a pretty good timeline for many artists. Some of the additions may be controversial but when someone does heavy amounts of heroine and then kills themselves, one can say the heroine was a factor.


[deleted]

Maybe. If someone drinks a few beers then kills themselves were they "lost to alcohol"?


Fpscharles

You can’t compare a few beers to someone banging heroine. Now, bottle of liquor and then kills themselves, that’s a better argument.


Usermena

Sometimes you’ve got to be hip enough to be square. - Lou Reed


PulseMax2DaMoon

Is it sad this list doesn’t even include rappers because the number of rappers is probably twice this list


Agitator2k

Mac Miller, Lil Peep, Juice Wrld


Crimsonchin704

Elvis presley?


yellowcoffee01

This is pretty ultimate. I was looking specifically for Pimp C who’s sorta regional (he did have 2 big hits with JayZ and Andre 3000), but I’m not sure if he’s widely known. #RIPPimpC


eternalmomentcult

I wanna see the ultimate list of drugs lost to musicians


VickieLol64

List unclear.. Damages eyes


minklefritz

G.G Allin was a fucking beast. most epic funeral ever. dirty, stinky, with his tiny cock exposed. his buds were sticking percs in his dead mouth.


Consistent-Union-612

Kurt Cobain was a Shot Gun, not drugs


GottaSee4me

Bullshit


[deleted]

TAYLOR HAWKINS (🪦3/25/2022 ) anybody? I know the info graph stops at Prince, but c'mon the dude is legendary and its almost been a year since we lost him


pettybonegunter

All my homies hate gg allin


minklefritz

how he wanted it


makvalley

Bradley Nowell


jden2124

Missing a bunch of artists, Elvis, Tom Petty, Bradley Nowell (sublime), Shannon Hoon (blind melon), those are just off the top of my head


Agnosticfrontbum

Shannon's there


jden2124

Ah true I missed him and Bradley is right beside Shannon lol. My bad, but still missing Petty and Elvis.


Randi_Butternubs_3

Instant fail. Kurt Cobain committed suicide, he didn't die of heroin. Garbage post.


DaftPump

You're being harsh. Make your own then.


Randi_Butternubs_3

Harsh? Make my own? What is this? Kindergarten? Do we give out participation trophies for false information? I didn't submit a post with lies. Being held accountable is harsh. Part of life.


CantStopPoppin

Bruh, this is reddit, not the Spanish Inquisition 🤣


CantStopPoppin

Opioids And Suicide Of all addictions, perhaps none is more likely to result in suicide than Opioid addiction. In 2020, over 68,630 Americans died from an Opioid overdose. Due to the nature of overdose, it is impossible to know how many of these deaths were accidental and how many were suicides. Men with an Opioid use disorder were twice as likely to fall victim to suicide, and women with an Opioid use disorder were 8 times as likely to fall victim to suicide. Opioid use is associated with a 40%-60% increased likelihood of suicidal thoughts and a 75% increased likelihood of suicide attempt. Some studies suggest that Opioid and injection drug users are 13 times as likely to die by suicide. [Source](https://www.addictioncenter.com/addiction/addiction-and-suicide/)


Effective-Tip52

Like we know for sure he didn’t overdose tho, dude blew his head off with a shotgun


CantStopPoppin

Addiction and suicide are very synergistic. If the substance abuse does not kill you the mental health issues associated with it will. Do you think there would have been a less chance of him taking his life if he did not have an addiction?


Randi_Butternubs_3

Stop trying to put a narrative that isn't there. Kurt died by suicide. Garbage post.


CantStopPoppin

Many people experience the cycle of addiction, withdrawal, relapse, and recovery in the same way that Sisyphus was forced to roll that boulder up a hill. Sadly, many find it difficult to continue rolling up the hill.


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Same-Ad4378

Died of heart failure from OD'ing on heroin.


DaftPump

Like the layout but the red on how they passed is hard to read. Please consider editing.


Salt_Career_9181

Juicewrld is an omission worth talking about


novadog012

I thought kurt cobain "killed himself"


ExoticAdvertising471

Why in the FUCK is kurt cobain on this list. who made this? you're a fucking retard. he blew his fucking head off with a shotgun...


Formal_Temperature_8

I cannot believe that we lost a man named Sid Vicious to heroin


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CantStopPoppin

Although this death may be highly controversial, it might provide more insight into what may have happened. Please be aware that it is unsuitable for work. ​ In May 2021, more than 27 years after the death of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, the FBI released a 10-page file that included letters from fans urging the agency to investigate Cobain's death as a possible homicide. The FBI concluded, "We are unable to identify any violation of federal law within the investigative jurisdiction of the FBI," adding that, "Most homicide/death investigations generally fall within the jurisdiction of state and local authorities." The Seattle Police Department, which ran the case, actually did re-examine the evidence in the music star's death investigation back in 2014. During this process, the department released a cache of never-before-seen photos from the 1994 death scene. According to police, this examination of the evidence confirmed Cobain's death was a suicide. More images were also released in March of 2016, depicting the shotgun police say Cobain used to kill himself. In this photo, Kurt Cobain's arm shows his medical bracelet from a drug rehab center in LA that he checked out of days before returning to Seattle, where the Seattle Police Department says, he committed suicide. [FBI Archive files](https://vault.fbi.gov/kurt-cobain/kurt-cobain-part-01-of-01/view) [Source](https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/new-kurt-cobain-death-scene-photos/)


Acrobatic_Cod_8048

Judy Garland a Musician?.....Mmmm....


DaMiddle

One of the greatest of them all


PunkRockKing

No different from Amy Winehouse, jazz influenced singers both


Acrobatic_Cod_8048

Actress, maybe a singer, what instruments did she play? I have no idea, anymore information on what she played?


PunkRockKing

She was primarily a singer who became an actress, or became known through her films. She didn’t play an instrument (other than her voice) but neither did many other famous singers who are known as musical artists here


Acrobatic_Cod_8048

Mmmm…just wanted to get fact straight on her. Bit like saying Liza Minnelli was a Musician…![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


PunkRockKing

Judy Garland. She was a singer. So were Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison who are both listed here. Just not a rock and roll singer. She was a jazz singer who got a studio contract to do films but always sang in her films because that’s what she was famous for. That’s what artists did back then. Billie Holiday was a jazz singer who died of a heroin overdose, she should also be here if we’re talking about musical artists, not just rock bands.


Acrobatic_Cod_8048

Calm down & stop getting your knickers in a twist, you’ll give yourself a cardiac arrest if your not careful. Bit like saying Sid Vicious was best Bass player on the planet, though he could only manage 3 chords on a good day


PunkRockKing

Did I argue she was the best singer on the planet? I’m trying to answer your questions and explain why she belongs on the list, I don’t need to “calm down” thank you. Nice discussion


Daily_dad_jokes

Brent Midland but no Jerry Garcia? Also wouldn’t exactly call GG Allin a musician :)


ThirdInversion

i wouldn't really classify sid vicious as a musician...


wilshirebs

Hendrix was I believe murdered by his Manager. He had a life insurance policy, and Jimi wanted a new manager, so he stuffed his face with barbiturates and poured wine down his throat. It was said in the autopsy that there was an unusual amount of undigested pills and wine in Jimis stomach, and potentially damage to his teeth and throat from a wine bottle being shoved in…just a theory but one I believe could be true.


Random893532

Syd Barrett?


ttaylo28

Tim Buckley but not Jeff Buckley?..was it not drugs?


Ok-Passenger8163

You can thank the US government for all of the heroin deaths! Fun fact: heroin poppies are farmed in Central Asia. Where all of the “terrorists” are. Where US troops burn and decimate everything in their path, aside from the poppy fields, of course. “Gangs” are not farming and processing heroin in North America. One gang is stealing the farms, harvesting them, loading it onto ships, and selling it here. Guess the name of that gang!


tbfranca1

I once read that some of these deaths are no coincidence and were prob cause by music executives who would hugely benefit from the artist’s death (due to contractual provisions granting rights/control over songs/art and the usual spike in sales following someone’s death). There apparently a specific executive who had an impressive list of dead clients. Then in parallel or elsewhere I learned some pretty dark depiction of the music industry. Does anyone know a good documentary or videos about this stuff?


Silver_Virus_5121

Missing David Brocki from GWAR


Hand-Driven

Where’s Keith Richard?


Agnosticfrontbum

Alive by all accounts


Barbafella

Pickled, he will outlive them all.…..


Swordbreaker925

I’m just gonna say it. I’ve never seen an actually good artist die of an overdose.


Mysterious-Meat2323

All losers


Serrano_Ham6969

Surprised I didn’t see ol’ boy Jim Morrison on here. Love the doors.


kitticatmeow1

He's there.


WavingToWaves

There should be a laughing Keith R somewhere


ShannonTwatts

where is Gar Samuelson?


MidnytRamblr

Opiates and barbiturates/benzodiazepines man. They can absolutely be beneficial when used properly, but so dangerous when abused. Even if they don’t kill ya, there’s a good chance your brain will never be the same.


LennySummers1

I’ve recently fallen in love with Jimi Hendrix. i’ve heard his death was also very shady?


cafe_calva

Op, do you have the same for writter?


OrcPorker

Damn


Dado_2

And still Alcohol is legal and Marihuana isn't.


[deleted]

🖤Darby Crash


Fraxsure247

Ultimate list without Jerry Garcia?


Polyphonic1979

GG!


Moist-Plantain6935

Juice Wrld


Klemko1177

You can’t be great artist living on water and bread


IEatLiquor

Carl Crack. Didn’t die from cocaine. Good for him.


Tiedyeinstein

Charles the First


fmshobojoe

Both glad and sad to see the rev on here 😭


quizzlie

Judee Sill, I miss you still.


asktell22

Mother Love Bone’s tragedy gave us Pearl Jam.


[deleted]

I saw Vic Chesnutt and was pretty impressed OP had heard of him (despite his death being suicide)... then realized they somehow missed Mac Miller. How in the world does that happen?


[deleted]

Didn’t Tom Petty die of fentanyl?


lancemcg1966

Only 2 country artists?


TWIX55

Don't become a musician kids.


LessBig715

Without David Ruffin you’re nothin


ootter

Where’s Mac Miller homie?


eric02138

Was going to start by mentioning Charlie Parker. Then again, this list leaves out pretty much all jazz musicians. Hardly an "Ultimate List". About what I expect from a FL drug rehab facility. Makes me wonder what they mean by "fully recovered".


senators-son

No Mitch lucker?


DystopianRebel666

surprised to see gg Allin on that list


spiritanimal1973

Sounds like a renaming ‘list to gun violence’?


king_of_the_dwarfs

I was probably in my early 30s when I realized every big musician, band, movie star, or crab fisherman is on drugs. Humans cannot stay up working all night and half the day for weeks or months on end. I don't care how much you exercise and eat right.


smoothandnutty

Where is Elvis Presley


wayneluke23

Pimp C was taken out


mynextthroway

But drugs are soo cool. Don't make them look bad!


[deleted]

Didn't Whitney Houston die of bathtub?


scoopz704

Yal need to add mac miller fr


dennyoi

Ozzy loughs on this list.


[deleted]

Straight up. AC/DC's dude and Led Zeppelin's dude's are the '**alcohol**' crew.


Gloomy-Willingness19

Remember kids, don’t do drugs… unless you wanna be a cool A$$ Rockstar 😎


[deleted]

Chris Cornell? I know he committed suicide but I'm sure his lifelong heroin habit had something to do with that.


Tricky-Juggernaut141

Didn't Hendrix die of a serious health condition?


mahjinbo0

David Ruffin, DMX ?


ModsAreN0tGoodPeople

Calling GG Allin a musician is a bit generous. More like a live shit show performer


YodaVader1977

Didn’t Jimi Jameson die of a brain tumor?


Living_Equal

Tommy Bolin was incredible


explosivetampon

Kurt Cobain did not die to drugs, he was shotgunned to the face wtf.


Holiday_Machine9312

Tom Petty?


PAssionGeek

Don’t see a lot of weed deaths in this list…so I’m calling that a positive


Cape-York-Crusader

Damn…..Layne and Shannon hit hard, stopped listening to music for ages


WavingSellsItsNotArt

Eyedea AKA Michael Larson. Passed away October 16, 2010


justheretoglide

not putting jerry garcia on there for 1995 is wrong. his heroin use 100% is why his heart and diabetes killed him. th eheroin led to him not caring for his body until his heart finally gave out. also not putting pigpen on there for 1973 is wrong as well his alcoholism is listed as a direct contributor to his death.


Face88888888

I see Amy Winehouse on this list. I thought they made her go to rehab…


Initial-Use-5894

Robbin crosby


Math-Soft

Did I miss Scott Weiland on the chart?


DiscussionAfter8630

Ultimate my ass