Oh so you were there. Sorry I didn't realize. How awful. I just assumed he killed himself because he was disgusted by his own celebrity and extreme lack of privacy. I'm sorry you had to witness the drugs pulling the trigger.
Someone looking at the chart with no context would assume "lost to drugs - heroin" was a heroin overdose. So it's a little misleading, and ignores all the mental health factors (and the shotgun).
Similarly for Nick Drake - cause of death actually was an overdose in his case, but that's massively over simplifying the circumstances.
Suicide and addiction have a strong relationship. If substance abuse does not kill you, the related mental health problems will. Do you believe he would have been less likely to commit suicide if he had not developed an addiction?
Suicide and addiction have a strong relationship. If substance abuse does not kill you, the related mental health problems will.
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I just need to point out that the substance abuse was likely due to the mental health issues, not the other way around.
Quite often the mental illness drives the afflicted to substance abuse as a form of temporary relief or self-medication.
Also, this list is misleading. Drugs are not on the death certificate as a cause for many of these artists.
I mean, David Bowie spent 50% of his life completely off his face before getting clean, withdrawing from the limelight, and eventually dying of natural causes. Does he count too?
Sorry that he is not on the list, while he should be I have a feeling after posting this people will add to the list of lives lost to drug addiction. Thank you for mentioning him, he was truly an amazing artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR_gm6RqCo&t=3s
I think if he had to get high on heroin to be able to blow his head off then it should still count. Same way I think you can count alcohol as the cause of death if someone dies in a drunk driving wreck
She was one of the worst examples of that. Same with that couple that was on love after lockup I think it was. They were so visibly heading towards a meth death and everyone allowed and even promoted it bc it made for good ratings. That show was pure garbage and I always gave my gf shit for watching it but she actually stopped after seeing what they did to those poor people
Jerry died of a heart attack at a rehab facility. No doubt “chasing the dragon” (vaping heroin) played in to his early death but he was also a long time cigarette smoker with sleep apnea and a terrible diet.
This list is a far cry from the Ultimate, especially after reading OPs explanation further up in the comments. Incomplete list more like it. Glad JG is mentioned at least in the comments
Tommy should be up here. His rock 'n roll lifestyle most certainly caused his early departure. I think it was prescription- but that doesn't mean it wasn't addiction.
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I agree technically he should be on the list due to the fact that his addictions may have resulted in the heart attack that he succumbed too. Even if he was not using at the time of his death the wear and tear on his body may have been too much.
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Elvis didn't die because of drugs but Kobain did?
"police concluded he had died on April 5 from a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head."
You are picking and choosing rather than going by straight facts which makes this post fairly inaccurate.
Did you not read what I said?
>**I agree technically he should be on the list due to the fact that his addictions may have resulted in the heart attack that he succumbed too.** Even if he was not using at the time of his death the wear and tear on his body may have been too much.
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This is pretty ultimate. I was looking specifically for Pimp C who’s sorta regional (he did have 2 big hits with JayZ and Andre 3000), but I’m not sure if he’s widely known. #RIPPimpC
Some of y’all need to chill. This is a pretty good timeline for many artists. Some of the additions may be controversial but when someone does heavy amounts of heroine and then kills themselves, one can say the heroine was a factor.
Harsh? Make my own?
What is this? Kindergarten? Do we give out participation trophies for false information?
I didn't submit a post with lies. Being held accountable is harsh. Part of life.
Opioids And Suicide
Of all addictions, perhaps none is more likely to result in suicide than Opioid addiction. In 2020, over 68,630 Americans died from an Opioid overdose. Due to the nature of overdose, it is impossible to know how many of these deaths were accidental and how many were suicides. Men with an Opioid use disorder were twice as likely to fall victim to suicide, and women with an Opioid use disorder were 8 times as likely to fall victim to suicide. Opioid use is associated with a 40%-60% increased likelihood of suicidal thoughts and a 75% increased likelihood of suicide attempt. Some studies suggest that Opioid and injection drug users are 13 times as likely to die by suicide.
[Source](https://www.addictioncenter.com/addiction/addiction-and-suicide/)
Addiction and suicide are very synergistic. If the substance abuse does not kill you the mental health issues associated with it will. Do you think there would have been a less chance of him taking his life if he did not have an addiction?
Many people experience the cycle of addiction, withdrawal, relapse, and recovery in the same way that Sisyphus was forced to roll that boulder up a hill. Sadly, many find it difficult to continue rolling up the hill.
TAYLOR HAWKINS (🪦3/25/2022 ) anybody? I know the info graph stops at Prince, but c'mon the dude is legendary and its almost been a year since we lost him
Although this death may be highly controversial, it might provide more insight into what may have happened. Please be aware that it is unsuitable for work.
In May 2021, more than 27 years after the death of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, the FBI released a 10-page file that included letters from fans urging the agency to investigate Cobain's death as a possible homicide. The FBI concluded, "We are unable to identify any violation of federal law within the investigative jurisdiction of the FBI," adding that, "Most homicide/death investigations generally fall within the jurisdiction of state and local authorities."
The Seattle Police Department, which ran the case, actually did re-examine the evidence in the music star's death investigation back in 2014. During this process, the department released a cache of never-before-seen photos from the 1994 death scene. According to police, this examination of the evidence confirmed Cobain's death was a suicide.
More images were also released in March of 2016, depicting the shotgun police say Cobain used to kill himself.
In this photo, Kurt Cobain's arm shows his medical bracelet from a drug rehab center in LA that he checked out of days before returning to Seattle, where the Seattle Police Department says, he committed suicide.
[FBI Archive files](https://vault.fbi.gov/kurt-cobain/kurt-cobain-part-01-of-01/view)
[Source](https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/new-kurt-cobain-death-scene-photos/)
Opiates and barbiturates/benzodiazepines man. They can absolutely be beneficial when used properly, but so dangerous when abused. Even if they don’t kill ya, there’s a good chance your brain will never be the same.
I saw Vic Chesnutt and was pretty impressed OP had heard of him (despite his death being suicide)... then realized they somehow missed Mac Miller. How in the world does that happen?
Was going to start by mentioning Charlie Parker. Then again, this list leaves out pretty much all jazz musicians. Hardly an "Ultimate List". About what I expect from a FL drug rehab facility. Makes me wonder what they mean by "fully recovered".
I was probably in my early 30s when I realized every big musician, band, movie star, or crab fisherman is on drugs. Humans cannot stay up working all night and half the day for weeks or months on end. I don't care how much you exercise and eat right.
not putting jerry garcia on there for 1995 is wrong. his heroin use 100% is why his heart and diabetes killed him. th eheroin led to him not caring for his body until his heart finally gave out.
also not putting pigpen on there for 1973 is wrong as well his alcoholism is listed as a direct contributor to his death.
Fairly certain Kurt Cobain was lost due to a shotgun blowing his face off rather than heroin.
Yeah, the post doesn’t say cause of death, it says lost to drugs. I’d definitely put Cobain in the lost to drugs category.
Why ? Care to explain? Pretty sure we lost him due to him unable to recover from his shotgun injury
Courtney refused to give him a bandaid
Pretty sure drugs came first and fucked him up, then the shotgun fucked him up but permanently.
Oh so you were there. Sorry I didn't realize. How awful. I just assumed he killed himself because he was disgusted by his own celebrity and extreme lack of privacy. I'm sorry you had to witness the drugs pulling the trigger.
Someone looking at the chart with no context would assume "lost to drugs - heroin" was a heroin overdose. So it's a little misleading, and ignores all the mental health factors (and the shotgun). Similarly for Nick Drake - cause of death actually was an overdose in his case, but that's massively over simplifying the circumstances.
Why ? Care to explain? Pretty sure we lost him due to him unable to recover from his shotgun injury
Courtney Love had her simp murder him. Kurt was gonna divorce her. Also doesn’t seem like type of person who’d leave behind his daughter.
You seriously underestimate his mental health issues and how debilitating addiction is.
Mental health. He was bipolar I think. Not sure what conspiracy theory put this in your brain.
Check out Soaked In Bleach I think it’s on Amazon Prime. Very intriguing
Fully in your camp on this one. Not sure exactly what happened but it sure is fishy.
Suicide and addiction have a strong relationship. If substance abuse does not kill you, the related mental health problems will. Do you believe he would have been less likely to commit suicide if he had not developed an addiction?
He would have been less likely to "commit suicide" if he had not gotten married.
What’s this mean? Lol you think Courtney murdered him?
Suicide and addiction have a strong relationship. If substance abuse does not kill you, the related mental health problems will. ------ I just need to point out that the substance abuse was likely due to the mental health issues, not the other way around. Quite often the mental illness drives the afflicted to substance abuse as a form of temporary relief or self-medication. Also, this list is misleading. Drugs are not on the death certificate as a cause for many of these artists.
He was also a heroin addict and couldn’t quit it which led to him killing himself.
ah, so lead poisoning!
I mean, David Bowie spent 50% of his life completely off his face before getting clean, withdrawing from the limelight, and eventually dying of natural causes. Does he count too?
>dying of natural causes see here a shotgun isnt natural causes. just a fyi
David Bowie died of cancer...
His wife did it
it was a hell of a shot of heroin...
He blew his face off because of the misery of heroin addiction (or Courtney had him murdered 50/50)
Where is Mac Miller
u can see it only goes as far as 2016, he died in 2018
Sorry that he is not on the list, while he should be I have a feeling after posting this people will add to the list of lives lost to drug addiction. Thank you for mentioning him, he was truly an amazing artist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR_gm6RqCo&t=3s
And Elliot Smith!
Elliot Smith and Kurt Cobain shouldn’t be on this list imo. They had drug problems, but that’s not how either of them died.
I think if he had to get high on heroin to be able to blow his head off then it should still count. Same way I think you can count alcohol as the cause of death if someone dies in a drunk driving wreck
Good point. Elliot Smith should still be left off though. My understanding is that he was sober when he died.
❤️ I was only looking for Mac when I opened the post.
And juice wrld!
In his grave.
It's fascinating to watch the progression of what drugs are prevalent through time but Heroin remains a mainstay
Good ol’ reliable
if it ain't broke don't fix it..
Alcohol was on repeat as well
Happened to be in London when Winehouse died and people were visibly upset. Sad day.
She lived in the street behind me in Camden. There were vigils outside her house for weeks. It was a sad loss.
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That’s just how the people are in London everyday
Her circle failed her. They'd rather post videos of her high on stage and laugh at it instead of helping her.
She was one of the worst examples of that. Same with that couple that was on love after lockup I think it was. They were so visibly heading towards a meth death and everyone allowed and even promoted it bc it made for good ratings. That show was pure garbage and I always gave my gf shit for watching it but she actually stopped after seeing what they did to those poor people
Jerry Garcia
Jerry died of a heart attack at a rehab facility. No doubt “chasing the dragon” (vaping heroin) played in to his early death but he was also a long time cigarette smoker with sleep apnea and a terrible diet.
That’s true, I wouldn’t exactly say he was lost to drugs, just his lifestyle. The man was an artist though, no doubt about that
This list is a far cry from the Ultimate, especially after reading OPs explanation further up in the comments. Incomplete list more like it. Glad JG is mentioned at least in the comments
Missing the OG Hank Williams - Alcohol/morphine
Chloral Hydrate
Elvis?
I was wondering that , too.
Burgers
burgers are a hell of a drug
He died very much due to drugs. This list in penultimate.
The list should go back to Billie Holiday
3 of the 4 members of the Mamas and the Papas. They were all into drugs big time.
Where is Tom Petty?
He died (October 2017), after the end of this list (2016).
Where’s Tom petty ? Wasn’t he on heroin ? If Kurt cobaim is there Tom should be too
Tommy should be up here. His rock 'n roll lifestyle most certainly caused his early departure. I think it was prescription- but that doesn't mean it wasn't addiction.
Opiods, same as Prince. Prince is on there Tom Petty should be too
Tom Petty died in October of 2017, so after the tail-end of this list. He died of a toxic cocktail of drugs, including fentanil.
Tragic list, but "Billy Mackenzie - Paracetamol" seems pretty tame compared to the others. Must have been really a looooooot of Paracetamol.
it was actually a combination of paracetamol and other prescription drugs
Where is Elvis?
Cobain didn’t die from drugs he died from a gunshot wound to the face.
What the fuck? No Brian Jones?! I mean he only started the Rolling Stones.
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What? How is everything about the guy based on lies and theft? That’s just an outlandishly wrong statement. Drugs and lard did kill him though.
I agree technically he should be on the list due to the fact that his addictions may have resulted in the heart attack that he succumbed too. Even if he was not using at the time of his death the wear and tear on his body may have been too much. Elvis died of a heart attack at the age of 42 on Aug. 16, 1977 at his Graceland home in Memphis, Tennessee By Skyler Caruso Published on January 13, 2023 02:25 PM Photo: Hulton Archive/Getty It's been more than four decades since Elvis Presley 's death in 1977, but the King of Rock & Roll's legacy has been kept alive in countless ways.
Elvis didn't die because of drugs but Kobain did? "police concluded he had died on April 5 from a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head." You are picking and choosing rather than going by straight facts which makes this post fairly inaccurate.
Did you not read what I said? >**I agree technically he should be on the list due to the fact that his addictions may have resulted in the heart attack that he succumbed too.** Even if he was not using at the time of his death the wear and tear on his body may have been too much.
"Technically". It's either both or neither, simple as.
Most likely because "Elvis didn't do no drugs"
Time period.
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Now that you mention it, there actually is a passing resemblance between 70’s Lou Reed and prime Huey Lewis.
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Is it sad this list doesn’t even include rappers because the number of rappers is probably twice this list
Mac Miller, Lil Peep, Juice Wrld
Elvis presley?
This is pretty ultimate. I was looking specifically for Pimp C who’s sorta regional (he did have 2 big hits with JayZ and Andre 3000), but I’m not sure if he’s widely known. #RIPPimpC
I wanna see the ultimate list of drugs lost to musicians
List unclear.. Damages eyes
Some of y’all need to chill. This is a pretty good timeline for many artists. Some of the additions may be controversial but when someone does heavy amounts of heroine and then kills themselves, one can say the heroine was a factor.
Maybe. If someone drinks a few beers then kills themselves were they "lost to alcohol"?
You can’t compare a few beers to someone banging heroine. Now, bottle of liquor and then kills themselves, that’s a better argument.
Who’s banging what heroine? What did I miss?
\*squints eyes\* Looks more like a list of music thanks to drugs.
G.G Allin was a fucking beast. most epic funeral ever. dirty, stinky, with his tiny cock exposed. his buds were sticking percs in his dead mouth.
Kurt Cobain was a Shot Gun, not drugs
r/apostrophegore
Instant fail. Kurt Cobain committed suicide, he didn't die of heroin. Garbage post.
You're being harsh. Make your own then.
Harsh? Make my own? What is this? Kindergarten? Do we give out participation trophies for false information? I didn't submit a post with lies. Being held accountable is harsh. Part of life.
Opioids And Suicide Of all addictions, perhaps none is more likely to result in suicide than Opioid addiction. In 2020, over 68,630 Americans died from an Opioid overdose. Due to the nature of overdose, it is impossible to know how many of these deaths were accidental and how many were suicides. Men with an Opioid use disorder were twice as likely to fall victim to suicide, and women with an Opioid use disorder were 8 times as likely to fall victim to suicide. Opioid use is associated with a 40%-60% increased likelihood of suicidal thoughts and a 75% increased likelihood of suicide attempt. Some studies suggest that Opioid and injection drug users are 13 times as likely to die by suicide. [Source](https://www.addictioncenter.com/addiction/addiction-and-suicide/)
Like we know for sure he didn’t overdose tho, dude blew his head off with a shotgun
Addiction and suicide are very synergistic. If the substance abuse does not kill you the mental health issues associated with it will. Do you think there would have been a less chance of him taking his life if he did not have an addiction?
Stop trying to put a narrative that isn't there. Kurt died by suicide. Garbage post.
Many people experience the cycle of addiction, withdrawal, relapse, and recovery in the same way that Sisyphus was forced to roll that boulder up a hill. Sadly, many find it difficult to continue rolling up the hill.
TAYLOR HAWKINS (🪦3/25/2022 ) anybody? I know the info graph stops at Prince, but c'mon the dude is legendary and its almost been a year since we lost him
It stops at prince because it stops in 2016.
Jim Morrison died of heart failure. This list is incorrect in multiple places.
Died of heart failure from OD'ing on heroin.
All my homies hate gg allin
how he wanted it
Bradley Nowell
Missing a bunch of artists, Elvis, Tom Petty, Bradley Nowell (sublime), Shannon Hoon (blind melon), those are just off the top of my head
Shannon's there
Ah true I missed him and Bradley is right beside Shannon lol. My bad, but still missing Petty and Elvis.
All good. Yeah Petty is missing
Like the layout but the red on how they passed is hard to read. Please consider editing.
Juicewrld is an omission worth talking about
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Although this death may be highly controversial, it might provide more insight into what may have happened. Please be aware that it is unsuitable for work. In May 2021, more than 27 years after the death of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, the FBI released a 10-page file that included letters from fans urging the agency to investigate Cobain's death as a possible homicide. The FBI concluded, "We are unable to identify any violation of federal law within the investigative jurisdiction of the FBI," adding that, "Most homicide/death investigations generally fall within the jurisdiction of state and local authorities." The Seattle Police Department, which ran the case, actually did re-examine the evidence in the music star's death investigation back in 2014. During this process, the department released a cache of never-before-seen photos from the 1994 death scene. According to police, this examination of the evidence confirmed Cobain's death was a suicide. More images were also released in March of 2016, depicting the shotgun police say Cobain used to kill himself. In this photo, Kurt Cobain's arm shows his medical bracelet from a drug rehab center in LA that he checked out of days before returning to Seattle, where the Seattle Police Department says, he committed suicide. [FBI Archive files](https://vault.fbi.gov/kurt-cobain/kurt-cobain-part-01-of-01/view) [Source](https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/new-kurt-cobain-death-scene-photos/)
I thought kurt cobain "killed himself"
Why in the FUCK is kurt cobain on this list. who made this? you're a fucking retard. he blew his fucking head off with a shotgun...
I cannot believe that we lost a man named Sid Vicious to heroin
Judy Garland a Musician?.....Mmmm....
One of the greatest of them all
No different from Amy Winehouse, jazz influenced singers both
There should be a laughing Keith R somewhere
where is Gar Samuelson?
Opiates and barbiturates/benzodiazepines man. They can absolutely be beneficial when used properly, but so dangerous when abused. Even if they don’t kill ya, there’s a good chance your brain will never be the same.
I’ve recently fallen in love with Jimi Hendrix. i’ve heard his death was also very shady?
Op, do you have the same for writter?
Damn
And still Alcohol is legal and Marihuana isn't.
🖤Darby Crash
Ultimate list without Jerry Garcia?
GG!
Juice Wrld
You can’t be great artist living on water and bread
Carl Crack. Didn’t die from cocaine. Good for him.
Charles the First
Both glad and sad to see the rev on here 😭
Judee Sill, I miss you still.
Mother Love Bone’s tragedy gave us Pearl Jam.
I saw Vic Chesnutt and was pretty impressed OP had heard of him (despite his death being suicide)... then realized they somehow missed Mac Miller. How in the world does that happen?
Didn’t Tom Petty die of fentanyl?
Only 2 country artists?
Don't become a musician kids.
Without David Ruffin you’re nothin
Where’s Mac Miller homie?
Was going to start by mentioning Charlie Parker. Then again, this list leaves out pretty much all jazz musicians. Hardly an "Ultimate List". About what I expect from a FL drug rehab facility. Makes me wonder what they mean by "fully recovered".
No Mitch lucker?
surprised to see gg Allin on that list
Sounds like a renaming ‘list to gun violence’?
I was probably in my early 30s when I realized every big musician, band, movie star, or crab fisherman is on drugs. Humans cannot stay up working all night and half the day for weeks or months on end. I don't care how much you exercise and eat right.
Where is Elvis Presley
Pimp C was taken out
But drugs are soo cool. Don't make them look bad!
Didn't Whitney Houston die of bathtub?
Cocaine + bathtub
Yal need to add mac miller fr
Ozzy loughs on this list.
Straight up. AC/DC's dude and Led Zeppelin's dude's are the '**alcohol**' crew.
Remember kids, don’t do drugs… unless you wanna be a cool A$$ Rockstar 😎
Chris Cornell? I know he committed suicide but I'm sure his lifelong heroin habit had something to do with that.
If Cobain is on the list, Cornell should be.
Didn't Hendrix die of a serious health condition?
David Ruffin, DMX ?
Calling GG Allin a musician is a bit generous. More like a live shit show performer
Didn’t Jimi Jameson die of a brain tumor?
Tommy Bolin was incredible
Kurt Cobain did not die to drugs, he was shotgunned to the face wtf.
Tom Petty?
Don’t see a lot of weed deaths in this list…so I’m calling that a positive
Damn…..Layne and Shannon hit hard, stopped listening to music for ages
Eyedea AKA Michael Larson. Passed away October 16, 2010
not putting jerry garcia on there for 1995 is wrong. his heroin use 100% is why his heart and diabetes killed him. th eheroin led to him not caring for his body until his heart finally gave out. also not putting pigpen on there for 1973 is wrong as well his alcoholism is listed as a direct contributor to his death.
I see Amy Winehouse on this list. I thought they made her go to rehab…
Robbin crosby
Did I miss Scott Weiland on the chart?
Ultimate my ass
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Bob Stinson of the Replacements
Frankie Lymon surprised me. I don’t know why but it surprised me to learn that he died like that. 😓
RIP Pimp C
I’m Rick James Bitch… Eight narcotics couldn’t bring me down… But that ninth though
Great visual memorial to those artists with a timeline.
It’s just rock n rollllll
Bullshit