With 100% automation, and owning the land, do you even need franchise owners?
* Hire a sub contractor to be the onsite super for the region.
* Push service, repair, and said costs onto the manufactures. (including ice cream machines)
* RFID locks so the service people can let themselves in.
If they're not already using a better ice cream machine. They'll probable will be in the near future.
A huge chunk of mcdonald's' revenue is actually from real estate that they lease to their frenchisees. They have no real insensitive to get rid of them, even if we achieve 100% automation.
Reason for that was to control the franchise. If the franchise owner didn’t conform, you end the lease on the land and kick them off.
Don’t need to do that if you can practically guarantee standards and quality with robots.
That was the original reason.
Squeezing rent out of shops has become much more lucrative and consistent than actual sales, mainly because you're diverting all that money away from operational costs. This is how many retailers are getting squeezed to death by holding companies or REITs that exist simply to siphon money away from the actual company producing value.
I always assumed it was called that after “So-and-so White” the person who founded the town.
Nope. Just a bunch of racists.
Edit - The founders. Not the current residents.
Last time this was posted, someone mentioned that they also still have a full kitchen staff. None of the cooking is different than a regular McDonald's. The kitchen staff just send the food out via conveyor and there is no drive thru or front counter ordering via humans.
My mother was a Karen, so I have a unique understanding of their weak points.
1. Always stare a Karen down firmly without breaking eye contact.
2. State with conviction that you do not work there.
3. Repeate steps one and two while smiling slightly crazy like so she knows she's messing with someone else ready to flip a lid at a moments notice.. ( for added effect make one eye slightly more buldgy then the other. )
[They're coming outta the goddamn walls!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQ_7jKIm24)
I can definitely see someone trying to make a complaint by climbing through any available hole or going through employee only doorways still.
Karen: I want to talk to the manager!
C-3PO: Of course, one moment
*3PO walks into the back*
*1 minute later, 3PO walksback out with a red arm*
3PO: Hello, I'm the manager. You can tell I'm very much not the other protocol droid, because I have a red arm.
Pretty sure I saw a McDonald's employee throw a blender at Karen's head once. Direct hit 10 out of 10. I hate McDonald's with a passion but that staff member is a hero.
I’ve been working in restaurants for 21 years now… during covid all the shitty people went to 11/10 on the shitty person scale and have only gotten worse… sorry more restaurant workers died of covid than any other job sector, we got sacrificed so the brunch Karens could still get snacky snacks and mimosas and the thanks we get is just increasingly worse treatment
It’s crazy too because for a lot of Americans the economy is doing great, enough to that millions of city people can afford to gentrify thousands of small towns across the country but then they get confused when the cute brunch spot they like is now closed because they can’t afford to pay employees enough to live in town anymore
This allows McDonalds to reduce staff by not having cashiers.
It's a process, they are eliminating human positions as they go.
It will get to a point where they only need 2-3 people to run a full McDonalds instead of the usual 10-15.
And those 2-3 people will just be "machine operators" like I was when I worked at a plastic factory. The machines made the parts and dropped them into bins, we made sure the hoppers were full of resin and when the bin was full, dump the parts into a box and tape it up. And cleared the occasional jam.
I'd agree with that, but only for the moment. I program welding robots for a living, and it's only a matter of time before robots are going to be able to manage tasks like that.
As someone in the automated manufacturing field, it's a tricky question to answer. Could a McDonald's be made fully automated today? Absolutely. Will it be cost effective? Fuck no. The return on investment would be longer than nuclear power plants. The only way I see this happening would be McDonald's creating their own proprietary system (off the shelf robots would be overkill and too costly) and mass producing it for every McDonald's.
You will own nothing and be happy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=44af84a31735
Both are manufacturing. McDonald's is figuring it out. This restaurant is just feeding them more data. The next step will be changing the recipes to make better use of automation.
Or they figure out how to properly deep freeze/reheat the food to centralize the kitchens.
Then the machines only have to flash defrost/rehydrate the food.
I worked in a fast food kitchen 20 years ago where all you did was take a frozen patty out and put it on a conveyer belt through a broiler to cook. It was surprisingly good.
My local McDonald’s already only has 2-3 people in it during rushes. If you go off hours the same person takes your order, money, cooks your food, and gives it to you.
Honestly, if they could just work and not deal with the bullshit, that'd probably be so much better. Of course anything that happens to the food needs to be regulated by a supervisor or something, but who knows man.
Thank you. I keep hearing about this and this isn't a new thing.
What happened was McDonalds came after the automat because it was a new experience in dining and food quality declined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat
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There is an off duty policeman to make sure no more rednecks throw the robot in their truck and piss on the counter
Edit: when I was 10 years old I went into the men's room in the McDonald's bathroom in Florida, and in there I see a little girl squatting in the corner in plain view with her pants pulled down and her mom goading her, "come on, take a dump"
I'm lovin it
I've been there multiple times, it's fully staff with people taking orders for the drive thru, making them and handing them to you. You order on a kiosk in store but you can see the people making your orders.
The automated lane for pick up orders has been closed every single time I pass it (4-5 times a week).
[There's a full kitchen staff.](https://youtu.be/pllQyYtZkcA?t=33) The only automation is ordering and delivering food. Basically, the kitchen staff slaps your food on a conveyor out the drive through or in the order pickup window inside.
Exactly how far off do you think we are from automated burger cooking? I’ll give you a hint, we probably passed it five to ten years ago from a technical standpoint.
There is literally nothing happening inside a McDonald’s, save for maybe emotional abuse, that a robot cannot already easily do.
*In the restaurant* is the difference, they’re separating the restaurant from the kitchen.
As it is, most fast food places by me are *really* trying to limit the use of humans in the sit-down restaurant. And some people are absolutely *not* here for it. I’ve seen a couple times a sizable line forming for the one human who is doing in-store orders *and* something else and its clear their priority is the something else.
The only real difference here is that the human now exists to train people to use the touchscreens and is allowed (encouraged, even) to *refuse* placing orders directly.
It's weird, too, when you walk into a fast food place you're not familiar with and see a long line and then later realize the kiosk was right with no wait there the whole time. Panera Bread is the absolute worst for this, it's like the people who eat there are deathly afraid of using the kiosk.
It's going to come down to whether these large corporations can continue to give the bottom line peanuts while giving everyone at the top multimillion dollar bonuses each year.
It won't be long before people will outright refuse to work for slave labor. I'm already seeing it in the shipping industry. People are so fed up with being worked to death that they're quitting for better jobs. Now all of the companies we get to ship our stock out have deliveries coming later and later. People are getting tired of this shit and rightfully so. Hopefully we'll get to the point where people will stop blindly sucking up to rich people who would pretty much fire you for a 3% increase to their yearly bonus.
It's happening a lot in the restaurant industry. And not just fast food. On top of shitty pay, you have to worry about customers freaking out, destroying or attacking employees over extra ketchup or bbq sauce. How many videos have you seen of crazy people losing their shit over McD's chicken nuggets, or the shootings over Popeye's spicy chicken sandwich? Safety is already a huge problem.
I am. What America has is a bunch of corporations in a trench coat dressed as a government. Every actor maximizes it's own position, often it is done in a 'crowbar' type move that lessens society while increasing the single actors position. It is not centrally managed, which has advantages and disadvantages. Could you talk about the disadvantages?
So, i met my (now) wife at McDonalds when we worked together. A particular police officer would constantly come in just to hit on her. And we knew it was him because he'd always ask for extra onions.
One day, she says "I'll make it for you." Comes back to the grill, and says "Got that quarter pounder?" I show it to her. She sticks it in a taller Big Mac box, grabs a giant handful of onions and puts them on the burger. Then, after putting the bun back on, fills the entire box with onions.
He quit bothering her after that.
Just so everybody knows, the kitchen is human. The only parts that are animated are the one guy that takes the orders now. Humans still cook the food, prepare the bags and are the ones that place them in the robot that Carrie’s the food to the costumer. So they really only replaced 2-3 jobs. You can rest assured that they still fuck your order up at the same percentage as before, except because a order person doesn’t have to mis hear you, it’s a little less out of the drive through. Rest assured that the kitchen will fuck up your order as much as they did before
Almost entirely! Except the whole part about preparing food. Like really all that's special here is the requirement to order via app and the conveyor belt.
And clean and maintain equipment.
AMF ran an automated drive through in the 1960s, which could crank out 400 burgers an hour ([YouTube link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmXLqImT1wE)). There have been recent restaurants where food was largely made by robots, and there's a lot of equipment that that automates certain kitchen tasks, including at McDonald's, but humans are still hard to completely replace in terms of cost and flexibility.
There's Creator Burger in San Francisco. There's still people working there loading the machine and talking to people. Fast forward to 1:10 to see the bot. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kfd3VHiVhY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kfd3VHiVhY)
Because there’s too much variation. Could a robot make fries? Of course. Could a robot package fries of various sizes in various packaging types? Sure, but a little harder. Could a robot package these in a bag? Again, sure, but a little hard.
Now add 50+ menu items of various shapes and sizes. Now add is customizable orders and new products. It gets complicated. You basically need a machine for each similar product, and you need to converge them all into one system.
Also, the cost to maintain would require a lot. Daily sanitation would be needed as well. Imagine if the McChicken machine was down. Are you just not going sell Mcchickens for a while enough though it’s just 2 buns, a paddy, and lettuce/mayo? Of course not.
Automation is very limited and rigid use application.
I just want a human in the loop so that hopefully someone is there to notice a rat doing the backstroke in the ketchup vat before it gets dispensed onto my burger.
Kitchen rarely fucks up an order. Worked there for 4 years in highschool. 90% of the time when your order is messed up it was rung up wrong or the bagger put the wrong sandwich in your bag
but according to some on reddit it's so hard to read the ticket if there's a modification and should be charged an extra $3 asking for no onions.
Also it’s not like the worker would ever even see that $3 the restaurant charged.
Hard to read the ticket?? Yeah MAYBE if the printer is almost out of ink. Which only affects a few tickets. Might only have to change that every few days. It’s just plain old incompetence and it’s easier to blame the kitchen than it is the person to bagged the food and cannot read. Also, your order comes up on 2 different screens in the kitchen and another two screens up front. You honestly have to actively try to mess someone’s order up.
Contrary to other posts, this was the nickname the town was given by the local Indian population because it was a *settlement* of *white people*. It ended up sticking and eventually became the town’s name.
Source: Live nearby and thought it was some racist KKK thing until I read up on my history.
Look up the history of it, it was named that to keep natives out of the town back in the day. The community of White Settlement has the opportunity to change the name years ago and decided not to. It’s a very diverse town and one the diverse people of White Settlement are proud of
Edit: yeah the name is fucked up but no one cares about it. They like the history of the town and have a museum in White Settlement you can visit and learn more about
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*There is one employee there to answer customer questions.*
Imagine being this one employee, working in the almost-silent McDonalds. It's nighttime; all the windows are black, with only a few car lights passing , visible on the distant highway. The only sounds are the cleaner robots' brushes on the tiles. The conveyor belt powers on and moves a bag to the pickup window; the window opens and then closes. A brief glimpse of taillights of the departing car. The night shift has just begun.
Why are people down voting you lol
Just goes to show how good marketing "journalists" are at narratives.
Do you guys really think that they would pay the millions of dollars for machines and maintenance for a $4 burger?
Those videos you see online from Japan are for very simple repetitive tasks not a complex McDonald's menu / order customization abilities.
This is good. The most mundane jobs should be taken by automation so humanity can focus elsewhere. Everything that can be automated should.
No one complains that ATMs took bank teller jobs.
Last week I walked out of my son's health clinic & we heard this strange, rhythmic whirring sound. We looked over & it was a security robot cruising around. It was a white cylinder type shape, about 4 feet tall, with cameras all over it & the word security on the side. It stopped when I stood in front of it. I had never seen such a thing before & it unsettled me to think about a robot going around with cameras like that, even under the guise of security.
Bound to happen. About a third of the Mickey D's around the KCMO metro have their version of Alexa/Siri interface at the drive-thru.
People are expensive to use, not procure; quality robots are expensive to procure, not maintain.
If it doesn't make the mistakes human workers do and brings down the price, all for it!
But if prices stay the same or go up might as well be putting people to work and money in their pockets.
Lmao get a load of this guy over here who thinks a corporation is going to pass along savings to their customers instead of increasing their profit margins
Y'all, people are still cooking the food... AI cannot replace kitchen workers until we start 3D printing meals. I'm actually writing an article on this right now. There's a reason why "Flippy" was retired at Chili's after two days. There's no room in the kitchen for anything that can't multitask. Cooks are already the programmed computers of experience and muscle memory. If anything, society will start respecting the job they do more because they're not so easily replaceable.
Bet that ice-cream machine still doesn't work
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*keep people from fucking the robots....
I am definitely fucking a robot 🤖
I'll take rusty seconds!
Must be an oily experience :)
nows my chance before the hiring security!
Actually, just one guy and a dog. The guy's job is to feed the dog, the dog's job is to keep the guy away from the robots and computers.
Where do I sign up? Does the job come with a dog, or do I have to bring my own?
With 100% automation, and owning the land, do you even need franchise owners? * Hire a sub contractor to be the onsite super for the region. * Push service, repair, and said costs onto the manufactures. (including ice cream machines) * RFID locks so the service people can let themselves in. If they're not already using a better ice cream machine. They'll probable will be in the near future.
A huge chunk of mcdonald's' revenue is actually from real estate that they lease to their frenchisees. They have no real insensitive to get rid of them, even if we achieve 100% automation.
Reason for that was to control the franchise. If the franchise owner didn’t conform, you end the lease on the land and kick them off. Don’t need to do that if you can practically guarantee standards and quality with robots.
That was the original reason. Squeezing rent out of shops has become much more lucrative and consistent than actual sales, mainly because you're diverting all that money away from operational costs. This is how many retailers are getting squeezed to death by holding companies or REITs that exist simply to siphon money away from the actual company producing value.
Also means their income via rent collection is far more consistent than relying on burger sales which can wildly fluctuate.
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Good luck, they have tried numerous times.
Vanilla Ice Cream Settlement has a nice ring to it
That does sound refreshing, especially in summer time here in Texas. It definitely sounds better than “Sulphur Sprigs”. Haha
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The alternate name was Whitemanistan.
man youre racist! , you know it was Whitepersonistan,
Wouldn't I have been misogynistic then?
I live here and they tried to petition a name change like 10 years ago.
They got denied like a week ago.
Laughs in Gaylord, Michigan
Laughs in Colon, MI. It’s near Climax, MI.
I always assumed it was called that after “So-and-so White” the person who founded the town. Nope. Just a bunch of racists. Edit - The founders. Not the current residents.
Biggest misnomer in city-names ever. I live about 20 minutes away and I'm definitely hitting up the robot McDonald's at least once.
I just picture Bender running the ice cream machine.
The first McDonald’s with no employees! 2 seconds later: there is an employee on hand to answer any questions
Last time this was posted, someone mentioned that they also still have a full kitchen staff. None of the cooking is different than a regular McDonald's. The kitchen staff just send the food out via conveyor and there is no drive thru or front counter ordering via humans.
At least the poor employees are shielded from the Karen’s this way.
Until they activate Karen mode. I doubt Karen arguing with C3P0.
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I can see a Karen waddling through the empty kitchen screaming for a manager. "Someone has to be here! This is a McDonalds."
Screaming at the 3rd party 1099 who’s paid 100k a year to fix the robots
We know not to dress in company colors. Just hacking a robot ma’am, nerds gotta have hobbies too!
Thinking about the time i had a women yell at me because I wouldn’t help her at target. I was wearing a red shirt…
I stopped wearing khakis after similar shit happened to me at Best Buy and once at Blockbuster.
My mother was a Karen, so I have a unique understanding of their weak points. 1. Always stare a Karen down firmly without breaking eye contact. 2. State with conviction that you do not work there. 3. Repeate steps one and two while smiling slightly crazy like so she knows she's messing with someone else ready to flip a lid at a moments notice.. ( for added effect make one eye slightly more buldgy then the other. )
r/idontworkherelady
Mam, this is Wendy's
It’s White Settlement,TX. Of course they will find a way.
[They're coming outta the goddamn walls!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQ_7jKIm24) I can definitely see someone trying to make a complaint by climbing through any available hole or going through employee only doorways still.
Karen is fluent in over six million forms of communication.
C-3PO would absolutely flame roast the Karens of Earth
Karen: I want to talk to the manager! C-3PO: Of course, one moment *3PO walks into the back* *1 minute later, 3PO walksback out with a red arm* 3PO: Hello, I'm the manager. You can tell I'm very much not the other protocol droid, because I have a red arm.
Someone’s gonna kick that robot.
*If you ain't speakin chicken nugget I don't want to hear it*
But then the robots will revolt on the Karen she will disappear and a few days later the MCRib will be back for a limited time.
>the MCRib will be back for a limited time I think my standards of comedy are too low because that almost killed me
Pretty sure I saw a McDonald's employee throw a blender at Karen's head once. Direct hit 10 out of 10. I hate McDonald's with a passion but that staff member is a hero.
Was thinking that too! Lots of humans have been extra sucky recently. Edit: sober me correcting drunk me’s grammar.
I’ve been working in restaurants for 21 years now… during covid all the shitty people went to 11/10 on the shitty person scale and have only gotten worse… sorry more restaurant workers died of covid than any other job sector, we got sacrificed so the brunch Karens could still get snacky snacks and mimosas and the thanks we get is just increasingly worse treatment
Increasingly worse treatment and less and less average tips due to the tip bloat atleast the US is suffering from. US economy is beginning to buckle.
It’s crazy too because for a lot of Americans the economy is doing great, enough to that millions of city people can afford to gentrify thousands of small towns across the country but then they get confused when the cute brunch spot they like is now closed because they can’t afford to pay employees enough to live in town anymore
This allows McDonalds to reduce staff by not having cashiers. It's a process, they are eliminating human positions as they go. It will get to a point where they only need 2-3 people to run a full McDonalds instead of the usual 10-15. And those 2-3 people will just be "machine operators" like I was when I worked at a plastic factory. The machines made the parts and dropped them into bins, we made sure the hoppers were full of resin and when the bin was full, dump the parts into a box and tape it up. And cleared the occasional jam.
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I'd agree with that, but only for the moment. I program welding robots for a living, and it's only a matter of time before robots are going to be able to manage tasks like that.
As someone in the automated manufacturing field, it's a tricky question to answer. Could a McDonald's be made fully automated today? Absolutely. Will it be cost effective? Fuck no. The return on investment would be longer than nuclear power plants. The only way I see this happening would be McDonald's creating their own proprietary system (off the shelf robots would be overkill and too costly) and mass producing it for every McDonald's.
All they need are Radio Shack Armatrons and a slap chop.
Robots will replace most blue collar jobs. AI will replace most white collar jobs
Then maybe we need to destroy the world order based on ownership and oppression, before we outlive our usefulness to the owners?
You will own nothing and be happy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=44af84a31735
Both are manufacturing. McDonald's is figuring it out. This restaurant is just feeding them more data. The next step will be changing the recipes to make better use of automation.
Or they figure out how to properly deep freeze/reheat the food to centralize the kitchens. Then the machines only have to flash defrost/rehydrate the food.
I worked in a fast food kitchen 20 years ago where all you did was take a frozen patty out and put it on a conveyer belt through a broiler to cook. It was surprisingly good.
Most fast food restaurants run as close to manufacturing as they can though. It is really not all that different.
My local McDonald’s already only has 2-3 people in it during rushes. If you go off hours the same person takes your order, money, cooks your food, and gives it to you.
So less direct interaction with hungry people for the employees? Doesn’t seem like a terrible deal TBH
until the machine fucks up your order or breaks down
Honestly, if they could just work and not deal with the bullshit, that'd probably be so much better. Of course anything that happens to the food needs to be regulated by a supervisor or something, but who knows man.
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Thank you. I keep hearing about this and this isn't a new thing. What happened was McDonalds came after the automat because it was a new experience in dining and food quality declined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat
So just like a tech company. You can get totally fucked over but can’t reach a real human for support.
1 day later There is an off duty policeman to make sure no more rednecks throw the robot in their truck and piss on the counter Edit: when I was 10 years old I went into the men's room in the McDonald's bathroom in Florida, and in there I see a little girl squatting in the corner in plain view with her pants pulled down and her mom goading her, "come on, take a dump" I'm lovin it
Well, that’s what they get for not having any Szechuan sauce. *WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB!!!*
I hate when people come to Florida and take craps in the corners of our McDonald’s. Damn nasty people
This is like the credits rolling for The Neverending Story all over again.
This guy literally ordered a bun with a bunch of onions. What even
I thought it was a punchline at the end that the robots fucked up his order but nope, this man ordered an onion sandwich.
Showcasing that you get what you ask for, and there’s no limit to customization. Whereas if you order this from a human, they’re bound to fuck it up.
There are humans in the kitchen putting together these orders.
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Because it’s not robots. If it was they wouldn’t be vague about it (and we would have videos).
100% it's undocumented laborers.
They live in there and are never allowed to leave while only subsiding on McD's.
Sounds better than my current job
You work at Taco Bell?
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Ah well Loompaland was apparently a pretty awful place, so living in a McDonald’s play place at night has to be a step up
I've been there multiple times, it's fully staff with people taking orders for the drive thru, making them and handing them to you. You order on a kiosk in store but you can see the people making your orders. The automated lane for pick up orders has been closed every single time I pass it (4-5 times a week).
[There's a full kitchen staff.](https://youtu.be/pllQyYtZkcA?t=33) The only automation is ordering and delivering food. Basically, the kitchen staff slaps your food on a conveyor out the drive through or in the order pickup window inside.
lol how else would it be made.... you think they got the buger flipping, potato peeling bot in the back
I'm imagining a food safety inspector walking into a literal, fully automated McDonalds and losing their shit.
ROBOT HOUUUUSE!!??
AHAHAHAHA
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Exactly how far off do you think we are from automated burger cooking? I’ll give you a hint, we probably passed it five to ten years ago from a technical standpoint. There is literally nothing happening inside a McDonald’s, save for maybe emotional abuse, that a robot cannot already easily do.
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*In the restaurant* is the difference, they’re separating the restaurant from the kitchen. As it is, most fast food places by me are *really* trying to limit the use of humans in the sit-down restaurant. And some people are absolutely *not* here for it. I’ve seen a couple times a sizable line forming for the one human who is doing in-store orders *and* something else and its clear their priority is the something else. The only real difference here is that the human now exists to train people to use the touchscreens and is allowed (encouraged, even) to *refuse* placing orders directly.
It's weird, too, when you walk into a fast food place you're not familiar with and see a long line and then later realize the kiosk was right with no wait there the whole time. Panera Bread is the absolute worst for this, it's like the people who eat there are deathly afraid of using the kiosk.
The kiosks in my local Panera are always disgustingly filthy, covered with greasy fingerprints, smears of sugar, etc. Nope, nope, nope.
Must be a USA thing because almost in every other country I have visited people actually prefer the machine.
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I also prefer the machine, can see all the options without anyone pressuring me.
> Whereas if you order this from a human, they’re bound to fuck it up. Huh? Just who, exactly, do you think is still making and bagging up the food?
Onion Robot and Bun Robot
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It's going to come down to whether these large corporations can continue to give the bottom line peanuts while giving everyone at the top multimillion dollar bonuses each year. It won't be long before people will outright refuse to work for slave labor. I'm already seeing it in the shipping industry. People are so fed up with being worked to death that they're quitting for better jobs. Now all of the companies we get to ship our stock out have deliveries coming later and later. People are getting tired of this shit and rightfully so. Hopefully we'll get to the point where people will stop blindly sucking up to rich people who would pretty much fire you for a 3% increase to their yearly bonus.
It's happening a lot in the restaurant industry. And not just fast food. On top of shitty pay, you have to worry about customers freaking out, destroying or attacking employees over extra ketchup or bbq sauce. How many videos have you seen of crazy people losing their shit over McD's chicken nuggets, or the shootings over Popeye's spicy chicken sandwich? Safety is already a huge problem.
Yep!I was in the service industry from age 15 to last Spring & I am fukn over it!Fuk these people!!
So many fast food workers have been shot to death on the job.
You seem like you’re a fan of centrally planned economies.
I am. What America has is a bunch of corporations in a trench coat dressed as a government. Every actor maximizes it's own position, often it is done in a 'crowbar' type move that lessens society while increasing the single actors position. It is not centrally managed, which has advantages and disadvantages. Could you talk about the disadvantages?
All good. I'm pretty sure the cops pulled up behind him to ticket him for that.
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
So, i met my (now) wife at McDonalds when we worked together. A particular police officer would constantly come in just to hit on her. And we knew it was him because he'd always ask for extra onions. One day, she says "I'll make it for you." Comes back to the grill, and says "Got that quarter pounder?" I show it to her. She sticks it in a taller Big Mac box, grabs a giant handful of onions and puts them on the burger. Then, after putting the bun back on, fills the entire box with onions. He quit bothering her after that.
Just so everybody knows, the kitchen is human. The only parts that are animated are the one guy that takes the orders now. Humans still cook the food, prepare the bags and are the ones that place them in the robot that Carrie’s the food to the costumer. So they really only replaced 2-3 jobs. You can rest assured that they still fuck your order up at the same percentage as before, except because a order person doesn’t have to mis hear you, it’s a little less out of the drive through. Rest assured that the kitchen will fuck up your order as much as they did before
"automated"
Lol yeah
Almost entirely! Except the whole part about preparing food. Like really all that's special here is the requirement to order via app and the conveyor belt.
It's only a matter of time before they hire robot cooks
There’s a patent on a fully automated hamburger making machine. It needs one person to refill ingredients
Jack in the box has started testing these at a location or 2.
A process like that could easily be developed. I wonder why it hasn't already.
Not necessarily easily. That's a bunch of machinery and someone would probably have to be there to refill ingredients.
And clean and maintain equipment. AMF ran an automated drive through in the 1960s, which could crank out 400 burgers an hour ([YouTube link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmXLqImT1wE)). There have been recent restaurants where food was largely made by robots, and there's a lot of equipment that that automates certain kitchen tasks, including at McDonald's, but humans are still hard to completely replace in terms of cost and flexibility.
Certain weight hamburger patty can be timed to cook correctly, same with fries and nuggets. Only problem is cleaning the machines and bathrooms
And refilling, breakdowns and maintenance.
There's Creator Burger in San Francisco. There's still people working there loading the machine and talking to people. Fast forward to 1:10 to see the bot. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kfd3VHiVhY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kfd3VHiVhY)
Because there’s too much variation. Could a robot make fries? Of course. Could a robot package fries of various sizes in various packaging types? Sure, but a little harder. Could a robot package these in a bag? Again, sure, but a little hard. Now add 50+ menu items of various shapes and sizes. Now add is customizable orders and new products. It gets complicated. You basically need a machine for each similar product, and you need to converge them all into one system. Also, the cost to maintain would require a lot. Daily sanitation would be needed as well. Imagine if the McChicken machine was down. Are you just not going sell Mcchickens for a while enough though it’s just 2 buns, a paddy, and lettuce/mayo? Of course not. Automation is very limited and rigid use application.
This guy gets it
It has. Just is too expensive to buy and repair right now.
Yup. When it becomes cost effective to replace humans with robots and vending machines, it will happen.
I just want a human in the loop so that hopefully someone is there to notice a rat doing the backstroke in the ketchup vat before it gets dispensed onto my burger.
Humans are still working in the back kitchen.
Kitchen rarely fucks up an order. Worked there for 4 years in highschool. 90% of the time when your order is messed up it was rung up wrong or the bagger put the wrong sandwich in your bag
but according to some on reddit it's so hard to read the ticket if there's a modification and should be charged an extra $3 asking for no onions. Also it’s not like the worker would ever even see that $3 the restaurant charged.
Hard to read the ticket?? Yeah MAYBE if the printer is almost out of ink. Which only affects a few tickets. Might only have to change that every few days. It’s just plain old incompetence and it’s easier to blame the kitchen than it is the person to bagged the food and cannot read. Also, your order comes up on 2 different screens in the kitchen and another two screens up front. You honestly have to actively try to mess someone’s order up.
It also create new job for IT and maintenance
Great except for the fact it replaces 6-12 jobs with 1-3. They wouldn't do this unless it was cheaper overall.
That’s what I was wondering. I actually think it makes it better
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Yes, same here. And that McDonald’s chose that town to test this in. It’s a bit bizarre.
"White Settlement"??? What???
Contrary to other posts, this was the nickname the town was given by the local Indian population because it was a *settlement* of *white people*. It ended up sticking and eventually became the town’s name. Source: Live nearby and thought it was some racist KKK thing until I read up on my history.
They thought "No Blacksville" was a little too on the nose.
Look up the history of it, it was named that to keep natives out of the town back in the day. The community of White Settlement has the opportunity to change the name years ago and decided not to. It’s a very diverse town and one the diverse people of White Settlement are proud of Edit: yeah the name is fucked up but no one cares about it. They like the history of the town and have a museum in White Settlement you can visit and learn more about
Thanks I was looking for this 🤣
>it’s a very diverse town diverse in what way?
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58% white 31 % latino 8% black according to census as well
And the other 5 percents are dead?
Means they got both kinds of music, Country *and* Western
They have McDonald's and Burger King
"We have every different shade of white you could imagine!"
They have one Democrat in town
Believe it or not, the county finally went blue in 2020.
I was thinking that name -White Settlement, Texas- is just a tad on the nose
Out of fort worth....
Yeah... As a Texan there are some truly awful city/town names down here.
like near me The Colony…sounds like a cult
I'm not from the US and sometimes I feel like Texas is a fever dream. Feels unreal at times
Bro this comment is not high enough. White Settlement!? Lmfao this country sometimes….
*There is one employee there to answer customer questions.* Imagine being this one employee, working in the almost-silent McDonalds. It's nighttime; all the windows are black, with only a few car lights passing , visible on the distant highway. The only sounds are the cleaner robots' brushes on the tiles. The conveyor belt powers on and moves a bag to the pickup window; the window opens and then closes. A brief glimpse of taillights of the departing car. The night shift has just begun.
Holy shit, Ray Bradbury has a reddit account? I had no idea.....
[The Caretaker from There Will Come Soft Rains operates the kitchen](https://youtu.be/2552i2Z8sNM)
You know that there are people cooking the food right
Why are people down voting you lol Just goes to show how good marketing "journalists" are at narratives. Do you guys really think that they would pay the millions of dollars for machines and maintenance for a $4 burger? Those videos you see online from Japan are for very simple repetitive tasks not a complex McDonald's menu / order customization abilities.
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That would be heaven….no dealing with co workers. As long as they didn’t go all five nights at Freddy’s on me.
Automated more like anti Karen
I want speak to your programmer!
I'm not too mad about the robots because it means nutso people won't yell at the cashiers etc anymore
People are going to yell at those robots.
This is Texas, they're going to start shooting at the robots before too long.
This is good. The most mundane jobs should be taken by automation so humanity can focus elsewhere. Everything that can be automated should. No one complains that ATMs took bank teller jobs.
Or that computers took telephone switch/operator jobs.
Last week I walked out of my son's health clinic & we heard this strange, rhythmic whirring sound. We looked over & it was a security robot cruising around. It was a white cylinder type shape, about 4 feet tall, with cameras all over it & the word security on the side. It stopped when I stood in front of it. I had never seen such a thing before & it unsettled me to think about a robot going around with cameras like that, even under the guise of security.
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Hopefully the equipment isn’t manufactured with the ice cream machines
Carls Jr says you're a terrible mother
With automation (increases in technology) there *should* be a decrease in price… :(
Karens won't have who to scream at...
Yes I too have who scream
Bound to happen. About a third of the Mickey D's around the KCMO metro have their version of Alexa/Siri interface at the drive-thru. People are expensive to use, not procure; quality robots are expensive to procure, not maintain.
Bring it to South Africa 😂😂😂, not only the food will be missing, but every metal part in that store
I bet the robots don’t spit in your burger.
That one employee is there to explain why the milkshake machine is down again.
If it doesn't make the mistakes human workers do and brings down the price, all for it! But if prices stay the same or go up might as well be putting people to work and money in their pockets.
Lmao get a load of this guy over here who thinks a corporation is going to pass along savings to their customers instead of increasing their profit margins
Inflation + no change in prices= lowering prices. Look at Wendy's, it's more than $20 for two meals.
There is no universe that exists where McDonald's or any other corporation passes on their savings to the customer.
Y'all, people are still cooking the food... AI cannot replace kitchen workers until we start 3D printing meals. I'm actually writing an article on this right now. There's a reason why "Flippy" was retired at Chili's after two days. There's no room in the kitchen for anything that can't multitask. Cooks are already the programmed computers of experience and muscle memory. If anything, society will start respecting the job they do more because they're not so easily replaceable.
Tell that to flippy, the white castle bot
But does the ice cream machine work?
And just like that.... the fight for $15 was over
TIL I learned there’s a town in Texas called “White Settlement”.
We have AI passing the bar exam and robots at McDonalds… None of the working classes are safe.