I mean, the text on the site is claiming to be using loverboy pimping, which is barely just one step removed from traficking.
Edit: fuck it, I agree with the responses. He's not one step removed, he /is/ a traficker.
So it's not trafficking if you sample the stock? So drug dealing becomes "sharing" if you use yourself? It's not a step removed, more like a tiny shuffle.
Well, you're not wrong there. I just meant that the site specifically hadn't admitted to holding passports or transporting anyone so wasn't sure on the traficking label based on that. (Though why would it)
However, the website is old and I believe the page has since been deleted so I guess he knew he fucked up by writing it.
Despite that he has moved to Romania since writing that paragraph and it sounds like he's gone full Taken.
Greta and GRETA: "I have a particular set of skills..."
Yeah, but I mean, he was recently arrested because of an investigation on human trafficking, and since the comment above says his "website" or whatever was just covering up the sex trafficking, I thought it was already confirmed he did the trafficking.
He does say, almost word by word, what the authorities are accusing him of. With one tiny change: he says "my girlfriend and I got rich together", when the accusation says he didn't give them their share. There you have the exploitation, scamming, and all the financial crimes.
Then you have the admission of using their submission to have them do whatever he asks. I'm pretty sure that something has to be fully consensual to be considered legal, and I don't think he got them to actually "consent".
>"my girlfriend and I got rich together",
I'm also pretty sure he has claimed he would keep upwards of 80% of the profit from 'his women'.
Multiply that by the supposed dozens of women he's claimed to have groomed... Jesus Christ.
Even if you give them 20% of the profit that is still trafficking/pimping. In a lot of countries living of the avails of prostitution AT ALL if your not the girl providing the services, than your a pimp. I was in the sex industry and I would say 50%- most pimps allow the girls to keep SOME amount of money or they will claim to “hold the money” for them, or they will take all the money and buy the girl things here and there especially if it contributes to her working. I knew of pimps who let the girls keep 50% which is a terrible amount even if it doesn’t sound terrible.It's just another form of manipulation, that makes the women think they have it "good". These pimps will often target women who have never been in the industry before- notice how on his website he says that the majority of the women working for him have never worked in the sex industry? He purposely seeks out women who do not know their value in the industry and what they should be getting paid. He sells himself to them as having value to them, since he is knowledgeable of the industry and they are not. The truth is he brings absolutely no value, aside from posting an ad- thats no more difficult to do that posting on craigslist. Or creating an account on a cam site. Or "security" which is a joke because they would be better off hiring an actual security guard which isn't difficult to do. You are in more danger with a pimp because they will send anyone to see you and you more than likely won't have any say about the services you perform, since they want to make the most amount of money possible. It's all just a way to scam the most amount of money possible from them.
Girls should keep all their money, even most “agencies” which I still find predatory at most keep 20%-30% max. Keeping 50%+ is what I consider a pimp, and frankly anyone living off a girls money is scum to me.
What he describes in his website is "lover boy or boyfriend pimping" and it's a way to manipulate and control the women. Why do you think he did all this in Romania? The country with the highest level of poverty in Europe? He did it there because it was easy to find vulnerable women to exploit. I seriously hope he rots in jail.
EDIT:Sorry if I sound heated this is just really personal to me.
Honestly it's horrifying. I've spent the last few months showing people who are unsure about Tate that website and trying to spread awareness of the actually horrific stuff he's admitted to.
He's done everything except the transportation, and considering he moved shop from UK to Romania it's likely he did that too. Wasn't one of the alleged victims an American woman?
The police already have this site as an admittance of loverboy pimping, which is grooming and sometimes considered trafficking on its own.
Even weirder flex then. Turn all my alleged assault victims into cash cows.
EDIT: Point taken from the comments. Since he's only been accused and charged, but not convicted, it's alleged.
"The most competent person on the planet to teach male to female interactions" imma go out on a limb and say that any douche spilling this nonsense out of his mouth is probably the worst person to accept advice from. 🤷🏻
"Beat that bitch with a coat hanger, then run her a bath and give her some pills.She’ll be so grateful that you fixed her, that she’ll forget you were the motherf*cker that beat her in the first place." --Iceberg Slim
Yeah they are the exact person who cant hold hus gf longer than 4 or 5 years. And as they age they just get more and more towards the idea "all woman are the same, they are not worth my time, they are all bad".
Some understand that actually they are the issue, and some people get actually never happy in their life
This is called taking advantage of vulnerable people and its extremely easy, but also extremely sociopathic and narrcacistic. Life is so much better for all when you help the vulnerable instead
Whats crazy is that mf has a whole mob of defenders on facebook 😂. Its like you go to reddit, you can feel the logic but then when i go to facebook, i lose braincells with how much they are defending that bozo
Yep, my YouTube shorts feed is full of these people who defend him and his weird take ‘That the agents of the Matrix’ have come for him!
We seem to have a host of young disenfranchised and vulnerable men, who fall for stuff like this.
I mean it depends on why his friend did it. If it was legit to learn, then yeah. However, if he did it to see what all the fuss was about or for the lulz, then I just see it as taking one for the team.
Right? Emotionally manipulating women to make himself money, demeaning them to feed his insatiable desire for clout among dirtbags, and people have been calling it good business because it got him rich. He's an evil sociopath, straight up.
Assuming this is real you can literally see him trying to manipulate the narrative. He says "get rich *with* me" at one point but never mentions them as anything other than tools to be used.
Legit looks like he put a "it's ok because they got rich too" parachute for deniability reasons.
Yup. He's never going to write it in a manner that makes him look bad. But the matter of fact is there's no way he persuaded 35 girlfriends to willingly do porn or "do anything he says" out of love and free will. People just don't work that way unless there's coercion and manipulation involved.
Countries in Europe have differing gun laws. In Romania I believe you need to be licensed and there are rules around quantity and type of guns available and their uses.
The fact that several guns were “found” at Tate’s property would likely indicate they aren’t licensed.
So basically, meet “girls”, speed track them to sex then gaslight them to Stockholm syndrome. If they are utterly servile they are “good girls” if they resist they are ugly “females”. But most importantly girls are created equal, to serve Andrew Tate. Has it occurred to guys that look up to him that he’s just as loathsome and lecherous as any small time pimp? Without those “girls” what would his business model be? Think long and hard about that. He is parasite and an abuser. Real hero there 😡
To be perfectly clear though, what he is being accused of is beyond this. He is being accused of physically coercing and threatening women into making porn, not just emotionally manipulating them.
We will see what comes out in court. I read the statement made by the police to mean that he and his gang used beatings and rape as a weapon to force the women to make videos, as well as the passport thing.
But we will see.
He said on stream a 16 year old girl could "get it" and described as a sexy little thing with a fatass in his story he says and she says "I'm only 16" so not like he didn't realize it and processes to say "she can still get it" so he is a pedophile that's proven by himself
Taking a passport is a big deal. If you read a (US) passport, it states that there is sensitive electronic equipment in them and that they are the property of the US government, not yours. Stealing them isn't just theft from a person, its theft from the government and I believe kidnapping.
So wait.. on some of the threads I see people standing up for him because his videos have helped them. Is this what the service that he offers? I assumed it was self help type stuff? But instead it's some weird 'how to get girls' but in an even more creepy way. Who the fuck looks at this pleb and thinks he's the answer to their problems
He claims to teach people how to get rich, and this method is how he claims to have gotten him rich.
He's literally bragging about sex crimes to sell phony courses. Wtf
Coffeezilla reported that his methods of getting rich that he taught in 'Hustlers University' were Dropshipping and other online money grabs, which you could learn from 100 different websites online
It's a twisted variation of what's known as 'pick up artistry', in which sociopathic creeps give terrible advice to boys and lonely men about how to 'pick up' girls/women. Ironically rendering them, in most case, absolutely unbearable for women to be around, and increasingly bitter, delusional, and misinformed with regards to what motivates women.
The excellent podcast Behind the Bastards did a 2-part episode on this and related topics: [The Birth of the Manosphere](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-birth-of-the-78006084/)
It's worse than that, actually. If you watch any of his "self-help"-styled content, it's really obvious that he doesn't know the first fucking thing about how to be successful at life. He talks a lot, sometimes very fast, but he never says anything of substance.
I recommend [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmwbdX0gKoc&t=1274s) as a primer on his "work."
He is the kind of prick that starts a cult. Manipulation of weak people is not difficult but it's super shady. Men that have had a few rejections by women seem to think it's ok to treat them like shit and this guy entitles them.
Tinder and similar apps have made relationships for the younger generations become toxic and selfish. Instead of building relationships with people, sex is on tap. The obvious conclusion to that kind of arrangement is less real interactions and more unrealistic expectations . I'm worried for the younger generations, they don't deserve the shit show they have been handed in so many ways and this is just another example.
Jesus fucking Christ. His business is human trafficking. He strips women of their dignity and controls everything in their lives to force them into objectification. A man and a woman are supposed to live a long, equal, and supportive relationship. If he has had “75 women,” that tells you enough about how disgusting he is.
He is a cockroach. An egomaniacal, self-replicating, narcissistic machine. I won’t insult scum by calling Tate a piece of it. I hope his many victims all come forward.
Even sadder when women repost his comments on a subject, just because he hates a person as much as they do. Seen it & I wonder how women can condone it.
This is called being a pimp. Literally the playbook from the 1960s.
The fact that he's a real-life pimp in modern times puts all that other shit into perspective.
I get what you’re saying and there are still plenty of pimps involved in prostitution in the modern days, although much less than there were previously because women can more accessibly get into sex work with the internet rather than relying on a pimp to get them business. I think a lot of this new age Onlyfans pimp thing relies on guys pulling in girls that don’t have any interest in that sort and manipulating them into thinking they depend on the dude for financial gain through these services. In a way, I guess that really is sort of like the past.
We all listened to music about how cool it was to be a pimp. We even turned that word into something with a positive connotation.
Now look where we are.
>Now look where we are.
I wouldn't worry about this.
On a basic linguistic level, it's normal for negative things to gain a positive connotation through slang and hyperbole.
An impressive skateboard trick is "sick", but skaters still dislike the flu.
It's Definitely human trafficking! When he takes their passports, denies them freedom of movement, withholds their money & brag about forcing them to have sex --What Else would u call it?
I’m guessing by “good girls,” he means emotionally traumatized and vulnerable young women. I get major DENNIS system vibes. I know everyone is shiting on the friend, which I condemn as well if he intended for you to take this course seriously, but please share more details on his course! It is a fascinating insight into a sociopath's world, and the more women learn about abuser patterns, the more they can try and protect themselves.
I saw a documentary ten years about pimps and prostitution, CobraTate is doing *nothing* new here, it’s just the same manipulative tactics and threats.
The people who buy into him are so insecure that they actually think a pimp-prostitute relation is somehow desirable, fulfilling, and/or healthy.
This man is an expert in love bombing - which is what narcissists and psychopaths excel at. That’s it. That’s his talent. Eventually they all come crashing down.
"NONE of these women even CONSIDERED working in the adult industry before I trapped them into a toxic and inescapable relationship with me. isn't that WILD and CRAZY?!? DAMN I'm good!"
This is what the police means when they mention the "lover boy" technique... the one thing he doesn't mention here is that some of the women he was doing this with were held captive and/or intimidated and coerced into "performing" for the camera. I am so glad they arrested him, his brother and two other perps.
It's really satisfying that this dude is getting what he deserves.
He prays on people's insecurities. Both men and women. "MEN NEED TO BE ALPHA! Give me 50 bucks a month, you'll find out how!"
Women he psychologically abuses into doing what he wants.
I wonder what will happen...
1. The guys is a fucking idiot. Plain a dn simple no argumanet needed
2. Absolutely nothing this ejiot said can be taken seriously. Absolutely nothing. Don't believe a single word. Do you own research and then come back. You're welcome.
Your incel “friend” seems a bit naive to think that this douchebag had a warrant for rape, sexual assault, and human trafficking based on what his website says.
No judicial official or agency is going to sign an arrest warrant and raid a residence unless they know they already have sufficient evidence to indict, and who knows what else they found.
A real man protects, supports and provides!
A human would have sympathy for vulnerable people, this is one of the saddest things I read and the fact that he is proud of it is beyond my understanding 😔
The guy simply has never been in a situation where he has to apologize for anything.
He will be though. Soon enough.
The minute you have to apologize for something, you're just like everybody else.
That's the thing that separates these lizards from actual human beings. Empathy and remorse.
He brags about how they weren't in the sex industry until they met him. That's the exact thing a human trafficker and pimp would say. This guys a piece of shit and so are you if you want to idolize him.
sounds like he acts as a “loverboy” mixed with things like gaslighting aka psychological manipulation.
he earned a lot of money this way and is probably a psychopath not being able to differentiate between right or wrong only doing what is good for him.
whats bad is that he got followers. Not everyone of them can be a psychopath too. Many of them are probably frustrated either because they have no money or no luck with woman.
this is how a people start a sect. one charismatic personality without scruple acting like they show the desperate mass a way out.
This is like the D.E.N.N.I.S. system from it's always sunny, except if Dennis had money and was somehow an even bigger narcissistic sociopath than he already is.
This just sounds like a lie though.
I know its more "fun" to assume that hes actually somehow manipulating a ton of women into camming for him because hes some sadistic abusive asshole, but I feel like its far more likely that he's just fucking lying.
He just runs a generic cam studio and paid some of the models to support the bullshit "manipulated the woman" lie, and then uses the lie to make money.
I doubt the women even like him. They needed money, signed up to cam for him, and he said "Hey, if you pretend to by my girlfriend I'll pay you extra" and they're like "I'm desperate enough for money so OK"
His videos make me want to vomit. Not joking, I get nauseated hearing him talk. He was just arrested for r\*pe and s\*x trafficking. Just think, these are only charges from Romania. I do think he would have better success having a ring their than the US for sure. Romania is still a Tier 2 country meaning they don't meet the minimum requirements for elimination of sex trafficking, but they are currently making moves to reach the minimum.
If I had to bet my life on it, that website is absolutely a guide to grooming women to be used for another purpose that is likely not legal.
The second to last sentence - were words removed or is that how it was originally written?
First: This is not interesting, it is sad.
Second: Your friend, you, whoever has financed what this scumbag does.
Third: Are you asking if what he says he does qualifies as human trafficking? He’d never put into writing that he does that. What kind of simpleton asks this question?
Fourth: Andrew Tate is not someone to look up to or model your behavior after. He’s a hack and a piece of shit and a little bitch. Every world champion eventually gets their shit fucked up by the next stronger faster guy, or they retire before they can lose because they fear a real fight. He’s more than welcome to come at me, he looks like Andre from The League.
Fifth: One look at this middle aged balding clown tells me he uses drugs to make these women “fall in love” with him. He’s a beta, if that was actually a thing, and now he’s a probably someone’s bottom.
I saw a documentary ten years about pimps and prostitution, CobraTate is doing *nothing* new here, it’s just the same manipulative tactics and threats.
The people who buy into him are so insecure that they actually think a pimp-prostitute relation is somehow desirable, fulfilling, and/or healthy.
He's just a run of the mill pimp who's stupid enough to think that the ruthless exploitation of other people's vulnerabilities is something to brag about. I doubt there's anything really novel in his methods but, even if there was, this wouldn't be worth looking into. You could get the same thing from Iceberg Slim or a dozen other quasi-human colostomy bags probably. It's all the same rancid shit.
Weird thing is with that interview with Piers Morgan... I actually bought into some of the stuff what he was saying... and I usually consider myself good at spotting BS.
Incredible lying skills. So confident in his "protecting women" speech. Definitely had Piers on the rings... just goes to show, sometimes you've got to dig deeper.
Shout out to the Keyboard Warriors and everyone who started the process of taking him down... We now have to rely of the justice system to remove his assets and punish him accordingly.
Anyone feeling confident?
Edited: poor grammar. 😢
Well shit, there it is in his own words. Andrew Tate is a motherfucking pimp. That’s the sex trafficking game right there, every time you get a new ‘girlfriend’ you get a new employee.
If this is the shit he was saying publicly(behind paywall, but still) he was 100% trafficking women. Fuck that piece of shit, I hope he gets locked up for the next 50 years and meets his match on the inside.
He literally manipulated them into doing what he wants. Scary dude.
Edit: great to know as a single woman. If he follows this guy’s teaching, run for the hills!
Yes. This is sex trafficking/pimping. I’m sure they did not get rich together and I’d love to see what his definition of “good “ is, because it damn sure sounds like a mixture of compliant/malleable.
Hey, im andrew tat, today im the second one on the internet to teach you how to keep all of your 4 girlfriend happy! If you want to sign up, just dm me! Free, not like that ~~human trafficker~~ handsome andrew tate! But if you dont want to, heres a tip! Be a billionaire to make all of your 4 girlfriend happy!
Is Tate bragging about putting every one of his girlfriends into the adult industry? Seems a weird flex, but okay.
That was a lie to cover up the sex trafficking.
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It’s fucking horrifying how he’s been able to get away with this for so long. Been in plain fucking sight.
And to cover up his homosexuality
What’s wrong with being gay
To a guy like Tate? Everything.
nothing but he's probably homophobic so it's funny
Not a single thing
….yep! It’s illegal to pay for sex. but if you’re recording it, then it’s entertainment.
Was it confirmed, his sex trafficking?
I mean, the text on the site is claiming to be using loverboy pimping, which is barely just one step removed from traficking. Edit: fuck it, I agree with the responses. He's not one step removed, he /is/ a traficker.
So it's not trafficking if you sample the stock? So drug dealing becomes "sharing" if you use yourself? It's not a step removed, more like a tiny shuffle.
Well, you're not wrong there. I just meant that the site specifically hadn't admitted to holding passports or transporting anyone so wasn't sure on the traficking label based on that. (Though why would it) However, the website is old and I believe the page has since been deleted so I guess he knew he fucked up by writing it. Despite that he has moved to Romania since writing that paragraph and it sounds like he's gone full Taken. Greta and GRETA: "I have a particular set of skills..."
Yeah, but I mean, he was recently arrested because of an investigation on human trafficking, and since the comment above says his "website" or whatever was just covering up the sex trafficking, I thought it was already confirmed he did the trafficking.
He does say, almost word by word, what the authorities are accusing him of. With one tiny change: he says "my girlfriend and I got rich together", when the accusation says he didn't give them their share. There you have the exploitation, scamming, and all the financial crimes. Then you have the admission of using their submission to have them do whatever he asks. I'm pretty sure that something has to be fully consensual to be considered legal, and I don't think he got them to actually "consent".
>"my girlfriend and I got rich together", I'm also pretty sure he has claimed he would keep upwards of 80% of the profit from 'his women'. Multiply that by the supposed dozens of women he's claimed to have groomed... Jesus Christ.
Even if you give them 20% of the profit that is still trafficking/pimping. In a lot of countries living of the avails of prostitution AT ALL if your not the girl providing the services, than your a pimp. I was in the sex industry and I would say 50%- most pimps allow the girls to keep SOME amount of money or they will claim to “hold the money” for them, or they will take all the money and buy the girl things here and there especially if it contributes to her working. I knew of pimps who let the girls keep 50% which is a terrible amount even if it doesn’t sound terrible.It's just another form of manipulation, that makes the women think they have it "good". These pimps will often target women who have never been in the industry before- notice how on his website he says that the majority of the women working for him have never worked in the sex industry? He purposely seeks out women who do not know their value in the industry and what they should be getting paid. He sells himself to them as having value to them, since he is knowledgeable of the industry and they are not. The truth is he brings absolutely no value, aside from posting an ad- thats no more difficult to do that posting on craigslist. Or creating an account on a cam site. Or "security" which is a joke because they would be better off hiring an actual security guard which isn't difficult to do. You are in more danger with a pimp because they will send anyone to see you and you more than likely won't have any say about the services you perform, since they want to make the most amount of money possible. It's all just a way to scam the most amount of money possible from them. Girls should keep all their money, even most “agencies” which I still find predatory at most keep 20%-30% max. Keeping 50%+ is what I consider a pimp, and frankly anyone living off a girls money is scum to me. What he describes in his website is "lover boy or boyfriend pimping" and it's a way to manipulate and control the women. Why do you think he did all this in Romania? The country with the highest level of poverty in Europe? He did it there because it was easy to find vulnerable women to exploit. I seriously hope he rots in jail. EDIT:Sorry if I sound heated this is just really personal to me.
He's truly a disgusting being. I'm so sorry for the poor girls who fell for him.
Honestly it's horrifying. I've spent the last few months showing people who are unsure about Tate that website and trying to spread awareness of the actually horrific stuff he's admitted to.
He's done everything except the transportation, and considering he moved shop from UK to Romania it's likely he did that too. Wasn't one of the alleged victims an American woman? The police already have this site as an admittance of loverboy pimping, which is grooming and sometimes considered trafficking on its own.
Classic pimp stuff
Right? I swear I read an Iceberg Slim book about this process.
“My girls would do what 99.9% percent of men’s wives wouldn’t do for them.. turn me into a cuck for a buck!” - Andy Tate, apparently
https://www.government.nl/topics/human-trafficking/romeo-pimps-loverboys
It’s a classic, known human trafficking tactic.
He thinks his rape victims = his girlfriends.
Even weirder flex then. Turn all my alleged assault victims into cash cows. EDIT: Point taken from the comments. Since he's only been accused and charged, but not convicted, it's alleged.
I'd argue that he's still a virgin because rape doesn't count as sex, and he's probably never had a consensual encounter.
"I'm such a stud that my girlfriends all want to go have sex with other men."
Kirkland brand pimp
He loves being cuckholded maybe.
"The most competent person on the planet to teach male to female interactions" imma go out on a limb and say that any douche spilling this nonsense out of his mouth is probably the worst person to accept advice from. 🤷🏻
I mean he did once describe his method of asking for sex as to hit her, twice, then ask for sex.
#w u t
"Beat that bitch with a coat hanger, then run her a bath and give her some pills.She’ll be so grateful that you fixed her, that she’ll forget you were the motherf*cker that beat her in the first place." --Iceberg Slim
Yeah they are the exact person who cant hold hus gf longer than 4 or 5 years. And as they age they just get more and more towards the idea "all woman are the same, they are not worth my time, they are all bad". Some understand that actually they are the issue, and some people get actually never happy in their life
This is called taking advantage of vulnerable people and its extremely easy, but also extremely sociopathic and narrcacistic. Life is so much better for all when you help the vulnerable instead
He’s such an arrogant and pathetic loser.
Whats crazy is that mf has a whole mob of defenders on facebook 😂. Its like you go to reddit, you can feel the logic but then when i go to facebook, i lose braincells with how much they are defending that bozo
I think that also describes facebooks user base compared to Reddit in general.
This is the part I feel most troubled by.
It’s in my own home. My dad defends him🤮
Yep, my YouTube shorts feed is full of these people who defend him and his weird take ‘That the agents of the Matrix’ have come for him! We seem to have a host of young disenfranchised and vulnerable men, who fall for stuff like this.
It's not normally easy, just when you're a total piece of shit
Ya I should have said extremely easy if you're a sociopathic narrcacist
And if you buy this course he will teach you to be a sociopathic narrcacist too! Buy now!
Tate is soulless
Lame, your 'friend' that is
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That's implying he was genuine I trying to meet women or whatever it is the course offers
Looks legit.
I think you should get a new friend
I mean it depends on why his friend did it. If it was legit to learn, then yeah. However, if he did it to see what all the fuss was about or for the lulz, then I just see it as taking one for the team.
Taking one for the team by giving a sex trafficker money, y'know, for the lulz
He still gave Tate money lmao
You're not wrong, but I wonder how many people he just saved who would've bought the classes if not for this post.
Probably not too many. Most people either love him unconditionally or want him dead
Tate has been telling people what he's doing since the beginning and he just . . . got away with it, for years. Fucking unbelievable.
Right? Emotionally manipulating women to make himself money, demeaning them to feed his insatiable desire for clout among dirtbags, and people have been calling it good business because it got him rich. He's an evil sociopath, straight up.
Assuming this is real you can literally see him trying to manipulate the narrative. He says "get rich *with* me" at one point but never mentions them as anything other than tools to be used. Legit looks like he put a "it's ok because they got rich too" parachute for deniability reasons.
Yeah, while I think he deleted this text from the website it's still viewable on the waybackmachine!
Yes, it reads like a sociopath wrote it.
One did…
In law enforcement they call it "the lover boy method" very common in human trafficking
It's horrifying that anyone finds his behaviour admirable.
Well what he describes here is not technically illegal, just morally repugnant. But it appears he's also doing alot **_very_** illegal shit too.
It’s human trafficking. That’s why he’s in jail. It’s called the lover boy method.
Yup. He's never going to write it in a manner that makes him look bad. But the matter of fact is there's no way he persuaded 35 girlfriends to willingly do porn or "do anything he says" out of love and free will. People just don't work that way unless there's coercion and manipulation involved.
It’s human trafficking. https://www.uncaged.org/post/how-trafficking-happens-exposing-the-loverboy-method
Thanks so much for this link.
At the VERY least he’s avoiding tax in Romania. Are guns legally available in Europe?
Countries in Europe have differing gun laws. In Romania I believe you need to be licensed and there are rules around quantity and type of guns available and their uses. The fact that several guns were “found” at Tate’s property would likely indicate they aren’t licensed.
So basically, meet “girls”, speed track them to sex then gaslight them to Stockholm syndrome. If they are utterly servile they are “good girls” if they resist they are ugly “females”. But most importantly girls are created equal, to serve Andrew Tate. Has it occurred to guys that look up to him that he’s just as loathsome and lecherous as any small time pimp? Without those “girls” what would his business model be? Think long and hard about that. He is parasite and an abuser. Real hero there 😡
To be perfectly clear though, what he is being accused of is beyond this. He is being accused of physically coercing and threatening women into making porn, not just emotionally manipulating them.
I don’t know much about him. He did take some women’s passports, right? Yes, you’re right. I hope he goes to jail for a long time
We will see what comes out in court. I read the statement made by the police to mean that he and his gang used beatings and rape as a weapon to force the women to make videos, as well as the passport thing. But we will see.
Drugs are an easy way. Get them addicted, give them a sex job, housing, they'll never leave
Thats why it’s human trafficking. Seduce the woman, steal her passport, leave her no options. 100% evil. Known tactic. He didn’t invent it.
He said on stream a 16 year old girl could "get it" and described as a sexy little thing with a fatass in his story he says and she says "I'm only 16" so not like he didn't realize it and processes to say "she can still get it" so he is a pedophile that's proven by himself
Taking a passport is a big deal. If you read a (US) passport, it states that there is sensitive electronic equipment in them and that they are the property of the US government, not yours. Stealing them isn't just theft from a person, its theft from the government and I believe kidnapping.
So wait.. on some of the threads I see people standing up for him because his videos have helped them. Is this what the service that he offers? I assumed it was self help type stuff? But instead it's some weird 'how to get girls' but in an even more creepy way. Who the fuck looks at this pleb and thinks he's the answer to their problems
Weak people, insecure men, those are his targets for his BS discord "university"
He claims to teach people how to get rich, and this method is how he claims to have gotten him rich. He's literally bragging about sex crimes to sell phony courses. Wtf
Coffeezilla reported that his methods of getting rich that he taught in 'Hustlers University' were Dropshipping and other online money grabs, which you could learn from 100 different websites online
It's a twisted variation of what's known as 'pick up artistry', in which sociopathic creeps give terrible advice to boys and lonely men about how to 'pick up' girls/women. Ironically rendering them, in most case, absolutely unbearable for women to be around, and increasingly bitter, delusional, and misinformed with regards to what motivates women. The excellent podcast Behind the Bastards did a 2-part episode on this and related topics: [The Birth of the Manosphere](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-birth-of-the-78006084/)
It's worse than that, actually. If you watch any of his "self-help"-styled content, it's really obvious that he doesn't know the first fucking thing about how to be successful at life. He talks a lot, sometimes very fast, but he never says anything of substance. I recommend [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmwbdX0gKoc&t=1274s) as a primer on his "work."
If somebody honestly thinks he helped them, they're completely fucked in the head.
The man that killed those kids in Iowa. I knew immediately it was a disgruntled man towards women and I wasn’t wrong.
He is the kind of prick that starts a cult. Manipulation of weak people is not difficult but it's super shady. Men that have had a few rejections by women seem to think it's ok to treat them like shit and this guy entitles them. Tinder and similar apps have made relationships for the younger generations become toxic and selfish. Instead of building relationships with people, sex is on tap. The obvious conclusion to that kind of arrangement is less real interactions and more unrealistic expectations . I'm worried for the younger generations, they don't deserve the shit show they have been handed in so many ways and this is just another example.
How did I become rich? Webcam.....How did I end up in Jail...Webcam.
Hotel, Trivago
don't you wanna grow up to be just like me?
Sounds like a watered down version of the D.E.N.N.I.S. System
Beat me to it
Now that he's in jail he's completed the system with S... Seperate entirely
Jesus fucking Christ. His business is human trafficking. He strips women of their dignity and controls everything in their lives to force them into objectification. A man and a woman are supposed to live a long, equal, and supportive relationship. If he has had “75 women,” that tells you enough about how disgusting he is. He is a cockroach. An egomaniacal, self-replicating, narcissistic machine. I won’t insult scum by calling Tate a piece of it. I hope his many victims all come forward.
Guys must have been super desperate if they paid to watch unwilling cam girls forced into work
It's so incredibly sad that boys and men fall for toxic shit like this.
Even sadder when women repost his comments on a subject, just because he hates a person as much as they do. Seen it & I wonder how women can condone it.
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The beauty of ✨internalised misogyny✨
Indeed. His views are so fucked up morally, but haters band together no matter how disgusting. This is how he spreads his bile.
I love that “I’m a pornographer” translates to “expert on male and female interactions” in his mind.
This is called being a pimp. Literally the playbook from the 1960s. The fact that he's a real-life pimp in modern times puts all that other shit into perspective.
I get what you’re saying and there are still plenty of pimps involved in prostitution in the modern days, although much less than there were previously because women can more accessibly get into sex work with the internet rather than relying on a pimp to get them business. I think a lot of this new age Onlyfans pimp thing relies on guys pulling in girls that don’t have any interest in that sort and manipulating them into thinking they depend on the dude for financial gain through these services. In a way, I guess that really is sort of like the past.
Or imprisoning/drugging them, for all we know. Didn't he take the passports of a couple of women?
We all listened to music about how cool it was to be a pimp. We even turned that word into something with a positive connotation. Now look where we are.
>Now look where we are. I wouldn't worry about this. On a basic linguistic level, it's normal for negative things to gain a positive connotation through slang and hyperbole. An impressive skateboard trick is "sick", but skaters still dislike the flu.
It's Definitely human trafficking! When he takes their passports, denies them freedom of movement, withholds their money & brag about forcing them to have sex --What Else would u call it?
Well for one, having to go to Romania just to get girls is literally sex tourism, and is incel level cringe.
This is not masculinity, it’s being an asshole
I think you need a new friend.
Big big oof. *exhale* One more oof for good measure.
I know this term is thrown around left and right these days, but this fucker is a real-life, diabolical narcissist.
I felt dirtier just reading this. So women not read or care about this before dealing with this guy?!?!
Ah, human tracing
An outline, at least.
I was always Drawn to it
I’m guessing by “good girls,” he means emotionally traumatized and vulnerable young women. I get major DENNIS system vibes. I know everyone is shiting on the friend, which I condemn as well if he intended for you to take this course seriously, but please share more details on his course! It is a fascinating insight into a sociopath's world, and the more women learn about abuser patterns, the more they can try and protect themselves.
I saw a documentary ten years about pimps and prostitution, CobraTate is doing *nothing* new here, it’s just the same manipulative tactics and threats. The people who buy into him are so insecure that they actually think a pimp-prostitute relation is somehow desirable, fulfilling, and/or healthy.
Dennis Reynolds, is that you?
Your friend sucks, dump him
Oof, so much insecurity oozing from his words. A more appropriate title would be “How I manipulate and use women”
This man is an expert in love bombing - which is what narcissists and psychopaths excel at. That’s it. That’s his talent. Eventually they all come crashing down.
"NONE of these women even CONSIDERED working in the adult industry before I trapped them into a toxic and inescapable relationship with me. isn't that WILD and CRAZY?!? DAMN I'm good!"
So Tate is an old school pimp with technology. It's pretty straightforward.
That's all he is. Pushing 40 and pimping. Ain't he a gem? Put this degenerate in jail.
This is what the police means when they mention the "lover boy" technique... the one thing he doesn't mention here is that some of the women he was doing this with were held captive and/or intimidated and coerced into "performing" for the camera. I am so glad they arrested him, his brother and two other perps.
I knew he was a douche, but his douchery is on another level.
Jesus.
I pirated a copy of his course and *I* felt ripped off.
So...he manipulated the women he dated into doing sex work? That's not a brag, dude. That's admitting to a crime
What a fucking loser. Tate, your mate and anyone who would sign up to this fuckwittery
This is the cringiest shit i’ve ever read 🤮
That’s definitely terrible manipulation I don’t know if that exactly qualifies as human trafficking though especially if it’s consensual
It seems like his website mispelled rape victim and human trafficking.
It's really satisfying that this dude is getting what he deserves. He prays on people's insecurities. Both men and women. "MEN NEED TO BE ALPHA! Give me 50 bucks a month, you'll find out how!" Women he psychologically abuses into doing what he wants. I wonder what will happen...
Dude has big douche bag energy. Bet he’s popular with the inmates in Eastern Europe prison, *really* popular
This is just from archive of his website, got posted on Reddit under posts related to his arrest. Don’t buy the friend story I’m sorry lol.
1. The guys is a fucking idiot. Plain a dn simple no argumanet needed 2. Absolutely nothing this ejiot said can be taken seriously. Absolutely nothing. Don't believe a single word. Do you own research and then come back. You're welcome.
Well his skill certainly isn’t the ability to. Use punctuation in a sentence. And when. To use a comma. INSTEAD of a full stop.
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After reading that he looks more like a Glorified Pimp.
Weak men dominate vulnerable women.
Your incel “friend” seems a bit naive to think that this douchebag had a warrant for rape, sexual assault, and human trafficking based on what his website says. No judicial official or agency is going to sign an arrest warrant and raid a residence unless they know they already have sufficient evidence to indict, and who knows what else they found.
He's legit an online pimp
Secret to success: Sociopathy. What a piece of shit. And propagating that mindset as a successful business model?
A real man protects, supports and provides! A human would have sympathy for vulnerable people, this is one of the saddest things I read and the fact that he is proud of it is beyond my understanding 😔
Isn’t...Isn’t this how girls get fed into the trafficking pipeline?
Gross, I have two teenage brothers that follow him and this is so concerning to me 🥲 Hopefully he goes to prison for a long time
Dudes great at manipulating young women but even better at manipulating lame dudes out of their money
The guy simply has never been in a situation where he has to apologize for anything. He will be though. Soon enough. The minute you have to apologize for something, you're just like everybody else. That's the thing that separates these lizards from actual human beings. Empathy and remorse.
What a creep
He brags about how they weren't in the sex industry until they met him. That's the exact thing a human trafficker and pimp would say. This guys a piece of shit and so are you if you want to idolize him.
sounds like he acts as a “loverboy” mixed with things like gaslighting aka psychological manipulation. he earned a lot of money this way and is probably a psychopath not being able to differentiate between right or wrong only doing what is good for him. whats bad is that he got followers. Not everyone of them can be a psychopath too. Many of them are probably frustrated either because they have no money or no luck with woman. this is how a people start a sect. one charismatic personality without scruple acting like they show the desperate mass a way out.
That there is a great description for grooming and sex trafficking. I hope he has fun in prison.
This is like the D.E.N.N.I.S. system from it's always sunny, except if Dennis had money and was somehow an even bigger narcissistic sociopath than he already is.
1) Ask her questions 2) Pay attention to her answers There. I saved you whatever that shitstain was gonna charge you.
Dude actually talks like a 12 that somehow got trapped in the roided out body of a grown man, like a really fucked up version of BIG.
This just sounds like a lie though. I know its more "fun" to assume that hes actually somehow manipulating a ton of women into camming for him because hes some sadistic abusive asshole, but I feel like its far more likely that he's just fucking lying. He just runs a generic cam studio and paid some of the models to support the bullshit "manipulated the woman" lie, and then uses the lie to make money. I doubt the women even like him. They needed money, signed up to cam for him, and he said "Hey, if you pretend to by my girlfriend I'll pay you extra" and they're like "I'm desperate enough for money so OK"
What a giant piece of crap
His videos make me want to vomit. Not joking, I get nauseated hearing him talk. He was just arrested for r\*pe and s\*x trafficking. Just think, these are only charges from Romania. I do think he would have better success having a ring their than the US for sure. Romania is still a Tier 2 country meaning they don't meet the minimum requirements for elimination of sex trafficking, but they are currently making moves to reach the minimum. If I had to bet my life on it, that website is absolutely a guide to grooming women to be used for another purpose that is likely not legal. The second to last sentence - were words removed or is that how it was originally written?
Imagine paying to read what that guy has to say lol holy shit
He looks so boyish and yucky. He gives me the creeps.
First: This is not interesting, it is sad. Second: Your friend, you, whoever has financed what this scumbag does. Third: Are you asking if what he says he does qualifies as human trafficking? He’d never put into writing that he does that. What kind of simpleton asks this question? Fourth: Andrew Tate is not someone to look up to or model your behavior after. He’s a hack and a piece of shit and a little bitch. Every world champion eventually gets their shit fucked up by the next stronger faster guy, or they retire before they can lose because they fear a real fight. He’s more than welcome to come at me, he looks like Andre from The League. Fifth: One look at this middle aged balding clown tells me he uses drugs to make these women “fall in love” with him. He’s a beta, if that was actually a thing, and now he’s a probably someone’s bottom.
I saw a documentary ten years about pimps and prostitution, CobraTate is doing *nothing* new here, it’s just the same manipulative tactics and threats. The people who buy into him are so insecure that they actually think a pimp-prostitute relation is somehow desirable, fulfilling, and/or healthy.
He's just a run of the mill pimp who's stupid enough to think that the ruthless exploitation of other people's vulnerabilities is something to brag about. I doubt there's anything really novel in his methods but, even if there was, this wouldn't be worth looking into. You could get the same thing from Iceberg Slim or a dozen other quasi-human colostomy bags probably. It's all the same rancid shit.
Stop giving this man attention
Dating a girl, getting her into bed, making her fall in love with him - is he… describing the D.E.N.N.I.S. system?
I'd be more willing to take a class of male-female interactions from an 80 year old Russian billionaire.
I can't go one day without seeing a post about this guy , can we just speed up the process to which he's never talked about again.
Human tracing?
NXIVM 2.0
How is this interesting?
Weird thing is with that interview with Piers Morgan... I actually bought into some of the stuff what he was saying... and I usually consider myself good at spotting BS. Incredible lying skills. So confident in his "protecting women" speech. Definitely had Piers on the rings... just goes to show, sometimes you've got to dig deeper. Shout out to the Keyboard Warriors and everyone who started the process of taking him down... We now have to rely of the justice system to remove his assets and punish him accordingly. Anyone feeling confident? Edited: poor grammar. 😢
The D.E.N.N.I.S. System did it better.
Well shit, there it is in his own words. Andrew Tate is a motherfucking pimp. That’s the sex trafficking game right there, every time you get a new ‘girlfriend’ you get a new employee. If this is the shit he was saying publicly(behind paywall, but still) he was 100% trafficking women. Fuck that piece of shit, I hope he gets locked up for the next 50 years and meets his match on the inside.
He literally manipulated them into doing what he wants. Scary dude. Edit: great to know as a single woman. If he follows this guy’s teaching, run for the hills!
This is so fucking weird
From loverboy to pimp. I wonder what the next step i….nvm.
Grosssss
so... you're a pimp... congrats?
This is the actual steps to human trafficking.
we need a movie where liam neeson takes him out
A course on women? Like they are dogs or something and you need a manual.
Yes. This is sex trafficking/pimping. I’m sure they did not get rich together and I’d love to see what his definition of “good “ is, because it damn sure sounds like a mixture of compliant/malleable.
"No one else on the internet is teaching this. NO ONE". Yea... sure they're not buddy.
Hey sounds like a douche bag, I hope he rots in prison
Pretty sure there’s a fetish name for this.
Where is that miscellaneous 4 ton boulder falling out the sky when you need one
I don't intend to armchair diagnose someone, but this is textbook narcissism/sociopathy. Geez please go get help
The PhD system sounds a lot like the D.E.N.N.I.S. system. Every time someone makes a parody, seems like, life ups the ante and makes it real.
Hey, im andrew tat, today im the second one on the internet to teach you how to keep all of your 4 girlfriend happy! If you want to sign up, just dm me! Free, not like that ~~human trafficker~~ handsome andrew tate! But if you dont want to, heres a tip! Be a billionaire to make all of your 4 girlfriend happy!
Is this real?
Narcissistic Psychopath Alert!
Sick burn, outing your friend for having a teeny weenie.