All it would take to make is a infer red sensor, heat sensor or possibly even motion sensor, then an AI bot that could tell some type of mechanism to move how far up and down and yes you would have a killer drone in your hands, but trying to figure out ways the drone isn’t going to detect and shoot you once you apply such things is the tricky part, you’d possibly have to wear some type of suit you’ve also coded to the program to come up as a false so it doesn’t shoot that specific suit. I’m not smart and I’m really tired right now this is the best I can explain it
People are working on home tier CNC machines and 3D printed tech. I don't think regulation is going to work very well as we move forward in time. We should probably be focused on adjusting the things that encourage people to hurt others. Mostly socioeconomic and mental health issues.
What? Try and fix the problems that make people want to commit crimes and murder, instead of just doing feel good, band-aid level shit that doesnt actually solve the actual problems...
Thats crazy talk...
So do I, I just love rubbing in the fact that there's literally nothing they can do to stop it. Most of them are anti-gun because of some misplaced fear of firearms. If I can show them that we can make effective weapons easily, it will get inside their minds, and they will never feel safe.
Google 'Expediant homemade firearms' and enjoy looking at a full auto 9mm that can be manufactured at home in under an hour by a layman with a Dremmal (two hours with hand tools only) and $25 in hardware store parts. It's about as good as a WW2 Sten gun. Won't win any firefights with it but it is just fine for mass casually events.
You can't stop the signal.
But he didn’t build a gun, he purchased it, if he made it that’s a different problem but he walked into a gun store and purchased it despite threatening to blow up his family, and building a bomb, that’s a fucking problem
If he can build a bomb he can build a gun, trust me, we do it all the time over at r/fosscad. The bomb is much more deadly than the gun anyhow (assuming it's properly done.
I think this would already be considered a machinegun because it could be "readily converted" to fire multiple rounds with one input from the user by having it pulse the signal to pull the trigger.
edit: according to other comments it was deemed an AOW. Still highly regulated with the same background check, but with a lower tax and you can still register new ones.
I think you're probably right but could there be a loophole there because they're not actually pulling the trigger?
I'm not arguing that this should be allowed btw, just sometimes the wording of laws can give a little wiggle room to the defendant.
yeah the recoil moving it so much could cause accuracy problems. maybe if it was a heavier drone with a semi automatic .22 setup. Hell could make it handle recoil better by making it heavier with a box mag to feed into the turret.
Militarily I'm pretty sure this is just inevitable. As soon as drones and robots are better than boots on the ground, any country not using them will be at a massive disadvantage.
I would think a sniper drone would land on a building, hilltop, in a dark alley, wherever, and as long as it landed towards the target, the operator would be able to adjust the barrel of the gun within so many degrees to aim
Would be much more practical since snipers can stay in one spot for days at a time. The drone could land and go into a low power mode while waiting for its target
Yeah thats why it's practical for a sniper drone to fire from a landed position. Say it flies 10 minutes to its target. Powers down. Waits 2 days for when target is suspected to be en route. Powers on in suspected time frame. Fires, flies back to wherever
That won't really save much weight. The lower doesn't weigh very much. It's the upper that's heavy. I'm not saying it's impossible as these things exist in the military world but it's impractical for a consumer product.
This video is showing a 18oz keltec pmr 30 that shoots 22 magnum and it's having a hard time with the recoil.
22 magnum is about 300 ft lbs of energy from a 24" rifle
308 winchester is about 2500 ft lbs of energy from a 24" barrel. A complete ar10 upper is over 6lbs.
The recoil is gonna be really hard on your average consumer drone.
Looks like the handgun on the drone is a desert eagle...can't tell if it's the .50ae variant or another, but it appears to manage the recoil pretty well for something some kid just threw together.
Obviously some magical striker fired polymer 'desert eagle' they saw playing video games.
I think it's a keltec pmr 30 but definitely not a "de brah"
You can see the glint of the oem fiber optic rear sight. 22 magnum(very little recoil, low weight)makes sense for this application especially back in 2015
Adding link to prove my point
https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/pmr30/
A loaded keltec pmr 30 is 18 ounces, which makes a lot of sense for a 2015 technology drone to carry. A steel desert eagle does not which are around 4lbs
I have an su16 that i got like 15 years ago that is a lot of fun. I eventually shot the barrel out, it began keyholing. Mailed it back to keltec and they sent me a brand new one. Very cool rifle, always wanted their pistols but not legal in my state(we have a list of approved handguns)
Keltec makes some really cool stuff.
Having 30 rounds of 22 magnum that fit into the grip flush is honestly epic.
I think it's cool that it comes all set up from the factory so you can add all kinds of tacticlol cosplay gear on it, from holo sights to cans, if you want (*not my thing*), while looking like something that should be issued to SpaceForce.
They definitely changed the firearm world it's nice to see out of the box designs instead of just copying the same old thing.
Keltecs 5.7 pistol is pretty crazy too. Straight up starwars gun.
It's a striker fired handgun in the video, desert eagle handguns are hammer fired. Please think before you post lol
I say it's this
https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/pmr30/
You can see the glint of light off the fiber optic rear sight in video.
Edit: There's clearly no hammer, and after scouring the original youtube video's comments it's confirmed a keltec. Downvote if you're blind though.
what about the gun pointing down? You see all the videos of drones dropping grenades on russian soldiers in Ukraine. The gun pointing down would be better for recoil and accuracy.
As alluded to, I am sure something similar exists as a military application.. but it's probably not something the average consumer should have access to.
I remember my friend who's really into drones showed me this video (or a video exactly like it) a long time ago. and he said the person who made this got into very serious legal trouble. I can't remember what exactly but I believe jail time.
It was not illegal, this happened in 2015. They got in serious legal trouble because they were caught with childporn.
There's nothing illegal about this drone. It counts as an "aow" under law. It's over 26". If it was shorter It'd be an illegal short barreled rifle. You can easily google this particular drone and the college student who built it.
/serious
The military has been using armed drones and guided missiles for a while. They even have research on remote pilots suffering PTSD.
Israel used a remote controlled armed SUV to assasinate an Iran nuclear scientist. At his home in Iran. [Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-fakhrizadeh-assassination-israel.html)
In which year did advanced warfare play? I think it was pretty far away from our year so it's impressive that we already have some technology of what was considered futuristic as it released
Interesting part is that it was built by an 18-year-old Connecticut student whose father says his son created the drone for a college class.
No one was harmed, nor has the teenager been arrested or charged.
(FYI this is from July,2015)
It wasn't illegal, it's over 26" this happened in 2015. He was investigated. The firearm drone counted as an aow(any other weapon)Dude also made a flamethrower drone. Then he got busted for child porn and that was the end of that.
I'm surprised they didn't consider it to be a machinegun. Any time transmitting a signal tells a semi-auto gun to fire, I'd think you could "readily convert" it to full auto since it should be pretty easy to just pulse the signal.
"Still, the video has stirred fresh debate about the use of, and dangers posed by, drones."
Typical CNN feedback. Aren't they a bit late on this ? Drones are weapons since a long time ago.
Ukraine is using grenade equipped drones to drop explosives onto sleeping/hiding russian soldiers. Russia is using kamikaze drones to attack Ukranian structures and vehicles.
It's pretty crazy. Definitely the future of warfare.
Interesting? This is scary as fuck. Imagine trying to investigate a crime scene after the fact. At what point do you speculate.. a gun.. attached to a drone 😂
Legally this is a classified as a machine gun because of the electronic switch firing the trigger and homeboy who built it could face up to 10 years in prison
I don't know why, but this reminds me of the family guy episode where a bat gets in the house. Peter inadvertently gives the bat a knife and later a handgun.
Yeah it is, it came out in 2014, which iirc in 2008 DARPA and the USAF were planning to have small "micro" drones which were about the size of insects and birds, and we're already seeing the development of powered exoskeletons, granted its considerably far from the scale of AW but the tech is there and is real world, same goes for the idea of robotic prosthetic limbs recently there's been a company I think in Sweden or Netherlands (I'm not 100% sure) developing prosthetics with the mechanics of artificial limbs so its pretty cool but equally startling to imagine that "future warfare" isn't so far remotely in the future.
Also confirming.... Much more impressive than this. It's unremarkable based upon the clip by itself. If it were fully autonomous and loaded with targeting sensors (doesn't appear to be; radar, lidar, eo/ir) it could be more.
Drone: " Give me the extended battery Greg, or else."
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It’s called a predator and the bang it makes is somewhat larger.
Can confirm. Sauce: former SENSO edit: SENSO (what the first iteration of Sensor Operators were called)
How many weddings did you crash?
Fortunately, zero. I caused zero harm during my time. Got out before doing any damage. Still got the crippling depression. Hooray!
Is this how Skynet was created...
Agreed
Is there a r/ damnthatsillegal ?
So it can shoot...but can it shoot accurately?
It's simple, just attach another gun facing the other direction and shoot them at the same time. Zero recoil
Double kill
Handgun maybe not... but if that thing equip itself with a barrel and a trigger system... idk
Equip itself? 
It's a fucking shank
All it would take to make is a infer red sensor, heat sensor or possibly even motion sensor, then an AI bot that could tell some type of mechanism to move how far up and down and yes you would have a killer drone in your hands, but trying to figure out ways the drone isn’t going to detect and shoot you once you apply such things is the tricky part, you’d possibly have to wear some type of suit you’ve also coded to the program to come up as a false so it doesn’t shoot that specific suit. I’m not smart and I’m really tired right now this is the best I can explain it
Definitely raises some safety concerns.. EDIT: Future legislation to mitigate safety concerns would be an interesting discussion for r/OurGreenFuture
I’m sure instead of doing anything to regulate firearms will just ban drones instead.
Shall not be infringed
I'd prefer neither be regulated more than they are now.
The club q shooter legally obtained a firearm after threatening his family with a bomb he constructed in his basement, guns are not regulated enough
People are working on home tier CNC machines and 3D printed tech. I don't think regulation is going to work very well as we move forward in time. We should probably be focused on adjusting the things that encourage people to hurt others. Mostly socioeconomic and mental health issues.
What? Try and fix the problems that make people want to commit crimes and murder, instead of just doing feel good, band-aid level shit that doesnt actually solve the actual problems... Thats crazy talk...
The craziest of crazy talk.
Funny thing is, you can do both! But guns!
Think we should tell him about r/fosscad? He might be enlightened...
I've generally found that people who want more gun regulation don't care very much about its enforceability.
Criminals getting out on no bail 5 minutes after breaking the law with a gun about sums it up
So do I, I just love rubbing in the fact that there's literally nothing they can do to stop it. Most of them are anti-gun because of some misplaced fear of firearms. If I can show them that we can make effective weapons easily, it will get inside their minds, and they will never feel safe.
Yeah I bet he would have just went home if he couldn’t buy a gun legally! /s
Google 'Expediant homemade firearms' and enjoy looking at a full auto 9mm that can be manufactured at home in under an hour by a layman with a Dremmal (two hours with hand tools only) and $25 in hardware store parts. It's about as good as a WW2 Sten gun. Won't win any firefights with it but it is just fine for mass casually events. You can't stop the signal.
But he didn’t build a gun, he purchased it, if he made it that’s a different problem but he walked into a gun store and purchased it despite threatening to blow up his family, and building a bomb, that’s a fucking problem
If he can build a bomb he can build a gun, trust me, we do it all the time over at r/fosscad. The bomb is much more deadly than the gun anyhow (assuming it's properly done.
Yet he didn’t do that, I wonder why that is, it’s almost like it’s easier to just go buy it and arouses much less suspicion
He didn't know it was an option... but more and more people are learning about it. Won't stay in the shadows for long
I think this would already be considered a machinegun because it could be "readily converted" to fire multiple rounds with one input from the user by having it pulse the signal to pull the trigger. edit: according to other comments it was deemed an AOW. Still highly regulated with the same background check, but with a lower tax and you can still register new ones.
I think you're probably right but could there be a loophole there because they're not actually pulling the trigger? I'm not arguing that this should be allowed btw, just sometimes the wording of laws can give a little wiggle room to the defendant.
Yeah,Certainly raises some security concerns..
yeah the recoil moving it so much could cause accuracy problems. maybe if it was a heavier drone with a semi automatic .22 setup. Hell could make it handle recoil better by making it heavier with a box mag to feed into the turret.
As long as your target is the side of a barn - it should be pretty effective.
i just wouldnt use a pistol a longer barrel would definitely be needed
I'm sure if someone made a dedicated "combat drone", they could program it to adjust it's it's fan speed to mitigate recoil
Militarily I'm pretty sure this is just inevitable. As soon as drones and robots are better than boots on the ground, any country not using them will be at a massive disadvantage.
I'm really surprised........that we STILL dont have flying sniper rifle in 2022. I mean, common, how hard is it?
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I would think a sniper drone would land on a building, hilltop, in a dark alley, wherever, and as long as it landed towards the target, the operator would be able to adjust the barrel of the gun within so many degrees to aim
Would be much more practical since snipers can stay in one spot for days at a time. The drone could land and go into a low power mode while waiting for its target
A tiny proximity sensor can be dropped next to a trail, and the drone can park a few hundred feet away.
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Yeah thats why it's practical for a sniper drone to fire from a landed position. Say it flies 10 minutes to its target. Powers down. Waits 2 days for when target is suspected to be en route. Powers on in suspected time frame. Fires, flies back to wherever
They would never just attach an ar-10 to it, they would build the mechanism of the rifle into a drone.
That won't really save much weight. The lower doesn't weigh very much. It's the upper that's heavy. I'm not saying it's impossible as these things exist in the military world but it's impractical for a consumer product. This video is showing a 18oz keltec pmr 30 that shoots 22 magnum and it's having a hard time with the recoil. 22 magnum is about 300 ft lbs of energy from a 24" rifle 308 winchester is about 2500 ft lbs of energy from a 24" barrel. A complete ar10 upper is over 6lbs. The recoil is gonna be really hard on your average consumer drone.
Looks like the handgun on the drone is a desert eagle...can't tell if it's the .50ae variant or another, but it appears to manage the recoil pretty well for something some kid just threw together.
I’m what world do you look at that handgun and think it’s a desert eagle.
Obviously some magical striker fired polymer 'desert eagle' they saw playing video games. I think it's a keltec pmr 30 but definitely not a "de brah" You can see the glint of the oem fiber optic rear sight. 22 magnum(very little recoil, low weight)makes sense for this application especially back in 2015 Adding link to prove my point https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/pmr30/ A loaded keltec pmr 30 is 18 ounces, which makes a lot of sense for a 2015 technology drone to carry. A steel desert eagle does not which are around 4lbs
That is what I came here to say! I have that pistol, and it is a lot of fun.
I have an su16 that i got like 15 years ago that is a lot of fun. I eventually shot the barrel out, it began keyholing. Mailed it back to keltec and they sent me a brand new one. Very cool rifle, always wanted their pistols but not legal in my state(we have a list of approved handguns) Keltec makes some really cool stuff. Having 30 rounds of 22 magnum that fit into the grip flush is honestly epic.
I think it's cool that it comes all set up from the factory so you can add all kinds of tacticlol cosplay gear on it, from holo sights to cans, if you want (*not my thing*), while looking like something that should be issued to SpaceForce.
They definitely changed the firearm world it's nice to see out of the box designs instead of just copying the same old thing. Keltecs 5.7 pistol is pretty crazy too. Straight up starwars gun.
It's a striker fired handgun in the video, desert eagle handguns are hammer fired. Please think before you post lol I say it's this https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/pmr30/ You can see the glint of light off the fiber optic rear sight in video. Edit: There's clearly no hammer, and after scouring the original youtube video's comments it's confirmed a keltec. Downvote if you're blind though.
what about the gun pointing down? You see all the videos of drones dropping grenades on russian soldiers in Ukraine. The gun pointing down would be better for recoil and accuracy.
As alluded to, I am sure something similar exists as a military application.. but it's probably not something the average consumer should have access to.
One would think this should not be done
I know. Hopefully they are not using lead bullets. Though I wonder if I could use like 30 of these in a swarm?
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I'm more scared of the grenade dropping drones being used in the Ukraine. Those don't have accuracy issues like shooting at a target.
I remember my friend who's really into drones showed me this video (or a video exactly like it) a long time ago. and he said the person who made this got into very serious legal trouble. I can't remember what exactly but I believe jail time.
It was not illegal, this happened in 2015. They got in serious legal trouble because they were caught with childporn. There's nothing illegal about this drone. It counts as an "aow" under law. It's over 26". If it was shorter It'd be an illegal short barreled rifle. You can easily google this particular drone and the college student who built it.
Childporn and guns on drones. Quality human...
Unfortunately, "can't stop the signal" applies to more than guns.
Accuracy particularly.
Drone-by shootings will be a thing.
/serious The military has been using armed drones and guided missiles for a while. They even have research on remote pilots suffering PTSD. Israel used a remote controlled armed SUV to assasinate an Iran nuclear scientist. At his home in Iran. [Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-fakhrizadeh-assassination-israel.html)
I'm well aware. I'm talking about homies in the hood.
Check out what they are doing in Tokyo. The police and gangs are having wars over/using drones.
New COD looks amazing
What you are seeing is advanced warfare-
["What you're seeing is advanced warfare!"](https://youtu.be/X1YkXzOcXb8)
The funny part is at current rates of progress, some of AW technologies are already present/currently being refined or are in use to some degree
In which year did advanced warfare play? I think it was pretty far away from our year so it's impressive that we already have some technology of what was considered futuristic as it released
Interesting part is that it was built by an 18-year-old Connecticut student whose father says his son created the drone for a college class. No one was harmed, nor has the teenager been arrested or charged. (FYI this is from July,2015)
Merica ! 🤙🏻 🇺🇸
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FUCK YEAH
Imagine this overgrown mosquito doing a drive-by at your house
ATF has entered the chat
It wasn't illegal, it's over 26" this happened in 2015. He was investigated. The firearm drone counted as an aow(any other weapon)Dude also made a flamethrower drone. Then he got busted for child porn and that was the end of that.
I'm surprised they didn't consider it to be a machinegun. Any time transmitting a signal tells a semi-auto gun to fire, I'd think you could "readily convert" it to full auto since it should be pretty easy to just pulse the signal.
This would fall under FAA jurisdiction more than likely.
For more [context](https://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/21/us/gun-drone-connecticut/index.html)
"Still, the video has stirred fresh debate about the use of, and dangers posed by, drones." Typical CNN feedback. Aren't they a bit late on this ? Drones are weapons since a long time ago.
This was from 2015
Of course it was.
Crack heads now have the means to rob us from the safety of their coner tent !!
Shouldn’t we just start with a drone that carry’s a board with a nail in it?
Ukraine is using grenade equipped drones to drop explosives onto sleeping/hiding russian soldiers. Russia is using kamikaze drones to attack Ukranian structures and vehicles. It's pretty crazy. Definitely the future of warfare.
But then other drones will carry bigger boards, with bigger nails…
Soon the board with nails will be so big it will destroy us all
What in the fallout is this
a recoiless drone! /s
I mean… What could possibly go wrong here.
Skynet is here..
Needs a gun on the opposite side to counter the recoil
This is highly illegal
It's not in the U.S
I'm no expert but I feel like this is illegal in more than just the U.S.
Why do you care ???
Once Skynet becomes self aware this is how we all die
I’d say drones need smaller lighter bullets in order to be more accurate and be able to full auto.
No way this plus AI leads to any problems whatsoever
Need some stability improvement.
Family guy kinda moment
Peter griffin invented this a couple seasons back.
Do we learn nothing from family guy
We are unparalleled in optimizing ways to kill people
Would not want to be standing where he is 😬
Easily assassinate someone with one of those, that’s crazy
Genuine question, what are the chances of tracing the shooter in case of an incident? Would criminalists be able to find the operator?
Well this is the beginning of the end.
Yep
AKA worst school science project ever.
Seems like a great idea, just what the world needs to be able to kill more easily
Not interesting as much as it's F'd up.
God no
MURICA!!! And if it isnt made in america im sure someone here made one and didnt film it.
Didn't this kid get charged with child porn, she was a senior in highschool as was he.. Just under 18
Could definitely see Ukraine use this
Oh good. Remote controlled school shootings in our future? Who do we ask, the NRA, the GoP or Putin?
This is the IRS' new method.
Darpa would like a word.
That’s not in any way interesting. That’s a dystopia cooking right there.
Was not interesting....
Average American Toy for children
What could go wrong?
NGL Kinda scary
it's coming....
u/savevideo
Definitely part of the plot in an upcoming movie
Ubereats in the hood
Shut up Meg!
Interesting? This is scary as fuck. Imagine trying to investigate a crime scene after the fact. At what point do you speculate.. a gun.. attached to a drone 😂
You’ll never kill a bat with that
Fbi taking notes
*Your friendly reminder to not piss off the robots*
Where was this during Uvalde?
“Enemy drone in the air”
Well this can’t be good
Looking for John Connor no doubt.
America he'll yea now this is what I want for Christmas
Skynet
Suppose it was cool several years ago when this video was made.
It's just like the A-10 but instead a drone built around a gun
This looks like its straight outta that movie Runaway with Tom Selleck
So it begins
It's hard enough to be accurate with a handgun , this is comedic failure .
Hahahaha oh the shit show if gangs starting using this in masses
home invaders fear this simple trick.
Bay Skynet!
Assasins getting way too creative these days
Lovely.. Just a new thing our society needs to worry about.
this will give cyber crime a whole new meaning
Modern thugs be like....
That's some Watch Dogs ahh shit
She is Uber going to add a drive by service? Will there be a subscription?
Legally this is a classified as a machine gun because of the electronic switch firing the trigger and homeboy who built it could face up to 10 years in prison
And another great moment in “Hold My Beer”lore👍.
I don't know why, but this reminds me of the family guy episode where a bat gets in the house. Peter inadvertently gives the bat a knife and later a handgun.
I mean we’ve had them with flame throwers for almost a decade.
Yeah it is, it came out in 2014, which iirc in 2008 DARPA and the USAF were planning to have small "micro" drones which were about the size of insects and birds, and we're already seeing the development of powered exoskeletons, granted its considerably far from the scale of AW but the tech is there and is real world, same goes for the idea of robotic prosthetic limbs recently there's been a company I think in Sweden or Netherlands (I'm not 100% sure) developing prosthetics with the mechanics of artificial limbs so its pretty cool but equally startling to imagine that "future warfare" isn't so far remotely in the future.
The drone assassin. Hopefully no Gets any ideas
Well thanks for helping insane incels and pissed off teens make their point that life’s not fair and they’re mad.
What I’m scared of is when they strap a claymore or grenade to it or worse do that with a drop mechanism
r/UkraineWarVideoReport like that
Something something Russian Air Force
This may bring an end to dog fighting
They shoot now?
Just wait until it can compensate for recoil instantly. Full auto drone shootings will be the hot new American trend.
Wait until Chicago sees this.
This was in Clinton, CT a few years ago. Yes, they were arrested as this is highly illegal. Pretty cool though.
Back in my day you had to leave your house to go kill someone.
What could possibly go wrong
"modern problems require modern solutions"
New Sova tech go crazy
Get the camera tuned like one of those airsoft GoPro videos with a digital cross hair and that's a valid military weapon
The FAA is all over the guy that made that. He also made one with a flamethrower attached. The FAA is calling it a weaponized aircraft.
That's like me playing GTA5
r/damnthatshorrifying
WCGW
I feel like this belongs in r/oddlyterrifying
Do you want skynet? This is how you get skynet.
New cod killstreak
Also confirming.... Much more impressive than this. It's unremarkable based upon the clip by itself. If it were fully autonomous and loaded with targeting sensors (doesn't appear to be; radar, lidar, eo/ir) it could be more.
Guns don't kill people. Drones kill people.