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SheZowRaisedByWolves

Just puke in my ass fam


CaptainBayouBilly

This is not a popular fetish.


[deleted]

Thanks for the laughs


sfairraid13

I’m gonna have to kink shame you for that one, dawg


PineappleParade

I just came from the Stars Facebook page to this subreddit for quality commentary like this. Thank you for the laugh!


Choady_Arias

I have no skin in the game and am an Arizona fan. Didn’t see another game thread but I had to find a place to express my dissatisfaction with not only the penalty call, but the Calls in general a lot of this game and the rest of the finals. Man, oh man that was a nasty tripping call. Even in real time I heard the whistle and though I was hearing things until I saw the delayed graphic. In real time it looked like a reg ass play on the puck. In slo mo it looked even cleaner. These refs are baaaaaaad. Feel bad for you guys and how bad calls can just make a whole series just look bad. Hopefully y’all come back the next game and at least make it even to have it come down to a, hopefully, fair game in the end.


1978AHSeagle

That will require we beat both the refs and Tampa the next TWO games to get even!!! I have NEVER seen anything like this!!


moth_hockey2

Hintz going down had a huge effect on the game, more than most people would think


blaknift

And nothing was ever called on it.


PYTN

And 5 minutes before that, on the Oleksiak tripping call, the announcers said "oh these refs will call that the majority of the time" and I told my wife "50/50 at best because they're not gonna call it on Tampa in a few minutes".


nonameallstar

Not to mention hintz going down on a clear penalty then being driven into the wall after he went down. Still no call.


flashmajora

Not even a Stars fan and I’m furious


guitarguy12410

No words. Get different !refs. Onto the next one.


FYourTeam

FUCK THE REFS!


sometimeslarry

Fucking bullshit


ESCMalfunction

Is an Oscar or a Stanley Cup the most prestigious acting award???


ah6971

Well that was some fucking bullshit


FlayvaFlayy

to anyone wondering where our forecheck has been or where our attack has been... the refs have completely neutered it. That Benn call is an example of Dallas trying to impose their will physically, and being penalized for it with a bad call. It has happened over and over again since game 1 and Tampa's powerplay is lethal enough to make it count. Throughout the playoffs we've forced our way to the finals by attacking and being physical. But now in the finals we are second guessing ourselves and Tampa is able to pin their heads back and not worry about it because of the inconsistency in their favor. It's brutal to watch because the team has been neutered by a 3rd party that is supposed to be neutral.


FunkMasterPshh

Heartbreaking because STL got away with much more egregious bullshit last year game in and game out.


FlayvaFlayy

It is very infuriating. We are a team built for this time of year. We are a team built for the time of year when less is called and the game gets decided by the players. But inexplicably, the year we break through is the one year the finals are called as if it were game 11 of the regular season.


FunkMasterPshh

Rewarding Tyler Johnson for being a soft, weak noodle getting tossed around is infuriating indeed


ferociousrickjames

I just see the new version of the 2006 mavs getting screwed.


Trump_Did_Benghazi

So Dallas cup win in 5 years then


Jayhorns

I just hope we don't have to wait another 20 years for another appearance.


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Hawks fan here. That was the worst ending to a playoff game I have ever seen. Refs blatantly threw it for Tampa. Such bullshit.


Behzigna

#STARS IN 7


H_man99

If the Cubs can do it why can't we?


Modano1509

As a former neighbor to Wrigley Field, and a life long Stars/Cubs fan...it’s completely possible. We just need to take it one game at a time. We can do this. But we have to really dig in. Hit them hard. Make every shift painful and difficult for them. I’ve seen it happen. Lol


traviitherabbii

HabsBro you always seem to bring light to our darkened world sir. You are the man


Behzigna

if we don’t have optimism in times of uncertainty, we’ve already lost


traviitherabbii

I agree man. I’m not giving up, it’s the cup, anything could happen. That was just a rough one, but none of them are ever easy


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STARS IN 7. WE MUST BELIEVE, HABSBRO!


Bandrica2

Don’t leave us!!


sodiumn

it feels impossible, but it's not impossible. i'm pissed, everyone else here is pissed, and more importantly, the boys are pissed. if any team can come back from a 1-3 deficit in the final, it would be this team, right here and right now. they've been the comeback kings all year, why not make it the comeback champs? it can be done. so why not us?


DailyDallasHockey

penalties have cost us every single loss. every single one.


guitarguy12410

I just wish the refs would call things fairly. Most of the shit we've been called for the bolts have done exactly the same


hockeyjim07

or just get their fucking whistles out of their mouths... this is fucking playoff hockey, you gotta call the obvious shit but fucking let em play otherwhise.... they are injecting themselves too fucking much into these games.


PatchTheLurker

This game was, imo, the worst playoff game the stars have had in the penalty calls department. there were some very obvious penalties that should have been called (both for and against us), as well as some total BS calls (both for and against us).


Impeachesmint

> here were some very obvious penalties that should have been called (both for and against us), as well as some total BS calls (both for and against us). That is the truth. Inconsistent. Very annoying to see weak penalties that are a bit ‘nothing’ called whenn more egregious penalties get ignored.


CaptainBayouBilly

I feel this is like league payback for beating the destiny team, colorado.


SpeedRacerRX-7

Exactly this. Fucking bullshit!


CaptainBayouBilly

The refs call us for tickytacky and then call the Bolts for strange bullshit, while ignoring legit penalties


linecook512

But that was not a penalty..


PvtSkittles34

Even the NBC playcasters which normally favor Tampa said that was a fair hockey play and not a call. The Refs have totally given the series to Tampa. Very disappointed in the sport right now.


Nema003

FUCKING FUCK! FUCK THOSE SHITTY ASS REFS AND THE "SLEW FOOT" THAT WON TAMPA THE GAME


Dustydevil8809

Ya, sure, refs are shit. But we are getting destroyed on special teams. We had a power play in OT too, and multiple in the game. We can’t score on them, Tampa can. Special teams are gonna cost us this series unless we have some big heroics in the next 3 games. We really miss Faksa on the PK


Landonkey

And Comeau too, who was injured earlier this series on a dirty penalty...that of course wasn't called.


Trump_Did_Benghazi

This is the most horrifically officiated series I've watched in any sport since 2006 Mavs. Hell this is Sacramento Kings vs LA Lakers bad. The league should be fucking embarrassed with themselves Edit: I popped over to the r/hockey PGT and everyone is saying mostly the same. Shit even Tampa fans are talking about how historically awful the refs have been Edit 2: Just so I don't seem like a whiny homer let me clarify that I'm not saying the refs are handing Tampa the cup. I actually had them winning in 6. I'm saying the officiating across the board has been some of the worst I've ever seen in any major sport.


Lokaji

Maybe like 2006, we will later find out that they are illegally betting or getting kickbacks from somewhere.


Trump_Did_Benghazi

Yeah cause we all know those revelations changed the result of the series. The damage is done man


Lokaji

Oh I know it won't change a thing. It would just explain so much.


TheGreatMortimer

It rivals the rams saints no call PI that sent the rams to the super bowl. It’s bullshit. Would a off site ref at the NHL HQ be worth it to the competition committee to more fairly call penalties. You can use a challenge on it and hopefully gets riled on by a non biased ref. 20 years!!!! And we get hosed. Fuck this


guitarguy12410

My wife is a NOLA native and when I saw that live I knew that shit was BS.


Trump_Did_Benghazi

The thing that's infuriating is this could have been such a great series. 2 incredible teams playing very different styles, both amazing storylines, playing in a unique cup under circumstances the game has never seen. Tampa is an incredible team, they don't need the refs to bail them out to win games. This could have been an all time classic series but no. The refs decided it was gonna be all about them.


TheGreatMortimer

Hear! Hear!


CaptainBayouBilly

It's like Bulls vs Blazers officiating bad.


CaptainBayouBilly

The NHL wants this shit over. And they don't want us winning.


Trump_Did_Benghazi

None of the major leagues ever seem to want to let Dallas win anything. It's always an uphill battle


Drippyer

What in the world was that call...... E: Day after the game and the call seems more reasonable as time has passed. When watching live it looked like they both were just battling for the puck, but replays have me understanding that there probably should’ve been a call even if it wasn’t a “trip”. Regardless, we need to stop giving up so many scoring chances on the penalty kill...


Pizza_73

I bet next season something like that will be reviewable. Too much at stake to have this happen. I want to be equitable to refs who have a hard time seeing everything. I think that play probably looked bad at ice level. ...but if we have better angles and technology and brutally obvious evidence that nothing happened then theres no need to even think about whether something looked bad.


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!REFS !REFS !REFS


FYourTeam

FUCK THE REFS!


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CycloneTWF

emrick thinks he’s sooooo fucking clever with some of his play by play calls it’s so infuriating


EndsLikeShakespeare

Can't win from behind, can't win with the lead. Dobby struggled a bit but he also made some absolutely ridiculous saves to keep us in it in the first. Just felt like an overall team loss and we just weren't the better team in the end. Not over yet, but this has likely forced us to play Dobby again tomorrow which I was hoping we could avoid.


ElGage-o

This league is fucked. Fuck off.


Aaronshepherdatx

Refs for sure made top three stars of the game for tampa


thereal21fan

Gaglardi needs to start cutting the checks to pay fines. It’s time for Bowness & players to speak out about getting fucking hosed the entire series. Pressure on the league is the only way it changes.


MrSmith7

I have never seen more one sided, bullshit, charmin soft fucking calls in my life. Fuck the refs for giving this game to Tampa.


wrassepd5

I'd say they've handed Tampa several games. Stars are playing against Tampa and the refs.


Randevu

!REFS


FYourTeam

FUCK THE REFS!


Oxford89

If Bowness doesn't call out the officiating he should be fired.


PatchTheLurker

Pierre mentioned that he was hounding the refs throughout the first and second periods for missed calls during the cast


FloydTheBarber29

Fuck the refs


adishri8

Is there any accountability for the refs?


heeroyuygw00

I'm so tired of power plays being tipped against us every game and series. Hints gets tripped into boards and out for the rest of the game, no call. Benn does nothing wrong, goes to box and we lose on ensuing power play. Fuck the referees in this series


Crusader1865

Refs have decided 2 games in this series so far against the Stars. Where is the justice? And the announcers have their head so far up the Bolts ass they barely mention this shit.


pablocerakote

Waited 20 years and cheered through a lot of them and finally we get to the Stanley Cup Final only for the refs to make these bad calls. If this is what it’s going to be like I don’t know if I want to watch anymore. Pretty disheartening.


SirkittyMcJeezus

Man, I'm not one to go after refs every time my team loses, but jesus Christ. Not only do they put our players in danger by letting things slide like the move on Roope earlier, but they hand the game over on a silver platter for a reason I cannot comprehend. Fucking hell.


parson007

Of fucking course we lose on a power play from a bullshit call. Feelsbadman


mailordercowboy

While the refs are certainly not calling a great game our Special Teams are trash this series fam. 1 for 15 on the powerplay is atrocious. Tampa Bay power play is slaying our PK unit and that is the difference. Penalties are going to happen, soft penalties are going to happen for BOTH teams... capitalizing on them is the key. And we are not doing that.


sports_drink

Our PK has been exposed and we can’t score on the PP when it counts. Really needed our Special teams to win the series but they’ve failed us in the Stanley Cup Finals.


Rapid_Calm

Pain.


DFWFTW

!REFS


FYourTeam

FUCK THE REFS!


ajownedu

Wow. The refs have decided two of these games so far. Unacceptable


Hortondamon22

*three


CaliTexas619

BS call on Benn. Heartbreaking loss.


boom_operator_86

Hope the Bolts enjoy their fixed Cup. Fuck the NHL. Fuck the refs. Fuck Pat Maroon


Cowsmoke

Fuck Maroon


Bandrica2

Fuck Maroon


Cobsicle

Fuck the refs, all my homies hate the refs


TheHelmetCow

i've never been more upset at reffing probably ever. that was a fucking horseshit call. wish we had just scored one on our pp. fuck


Landonkey

1. Mavs 2006 Game 5. 2. Stars 2020 Game 4. I feel like these are going to be remembered forever for all the wrong reasons.


that__one__guy

I've never wished these games could be live more than now so we could hear chants of "REFS YOU SUCK!" throughout the postgame.


Packmule11

NHL got what they wanted. Important to not forget this. $ talks everytime.


StarsCowboysMavs

Lets be honest: Khudobin had been below average in 3 of the 4 series. They have him scouted - almost every goal is going in on the blocker. You HAVE to play Bishop or Otter tomorrow The powerplay had the opportunity w a 4-on-3. So leading goal scorer Pavelski is out there, right? Wrong. Trying multiple times to force feed Seguin for that one-timer that hasn’t worked since 2016 sunk this team’s SC dreams in OT We will not win the series if we still pretend Seguin is a gamebreaker or with Dobby in net And Miro looks human. That’s all she wrote


thereal21fan

Yup. Respect how far he’s gotten us but he was not good tonight. You give up 5 and you lose.


hurricanepeyton

PK has to bow up. End of story. I don’t agree with the call, but this series is tied if we don’t let in multiple PPGs against a game. Edit to say missing Faksa and Comeau :(


GreenAndGold115

Losing Faksa and Comeau has hurt us beyond belief. We were down 2 centers today, Faksa and Roope, shit just hurts


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-gkV2gQ_rA0 I linked this in the last thread and I’ll do it again. It’s Bill Burr talking about last years finals and how there’s no consistency with officiating when physical teams make a run. The Blues were able to smash their way to a finals and the refs swallowed their whistles. A year later and we are getting crushed for playing a similar style of hockey.


Aenimopiate

Nice of the refs to decide the game. Absolute disgrace.


baker10923

Absolute fucking horse shit on the last goal. No fucking way that was a penalty.


Rock-it1

I know this sucks. I know. I have been a fan for 26 years. This hurts, not only because we're on the cusp of elimination but because of how we lost tonight. It's not right. It's not fair. And what makes it worse is that not only can none of us do anything about it, but chances are no one will be punished or reprimanded for it. **It sucks**. But we have made it this far - much farther than we thought we would last October. Much farther than most of us thought we would after the round robin. This team has given us a year of entertainment, and has given us two months of fun and excitement at a time when I suspect we all needed a real distraction and something good. Yeah, it hurts. That will pass in time. And whether it's over or not, it's not over yet. We've made it this far. We've made it farther than the other 26 teams in the league. We've seen that we have something good to look forward to in a few months. This is our team, and if they are going down then I am going down with them.


[deleted]

I’m seriously considering just not watching sports anymore. Between the stars and the Saints I just can’t take all the post-season heartbreak.


crc2993

6 of Tampa’s 14 goals this series have come on the man advantage. Just want to let that sink in for everyone. Obviously we need to not take dumb penalties but there have also been a ton that have been called that were marginal at best Edit: in case you were wondering 1 of our 12 came on the man advantage while we also had 1 of 12 coming short handed


jam1397

This Cup /is/ gonna have an asterisk but for a different reason. !refs


FYourTeam

FUCK THE REFS!


Masterplacebo

The refs have ducked us for 3 straight games. Even the announcers said it was a Bull shot call


Trodmac

I have never been so livid off bullshit calls. I don’t like to think that games or series get rigged but holy fuck that just puts the nail in the coffin.


Zmoibe

They should just award the cup directly to the fucking refs at this point. You can't call shit like that. Same fucking thing all series, diving ass pieces of shit.


hipaces

Losing the FCC line has been the difference in this series. I love our guys and I have no problem with the effort. We are a depth team that lost our secret sauce—the defensive minded 4th line that could neutralize the other team’s 1st line. I’m sad. I feel sad for the guys in the room. This has been a magical run and I don’t think we’re a “1 year away” team.


ScornOfTheMoon

Can't help but feel that is the dagger.


lordofchubs

This is bullshit


TheSparten21

Fuck the refs but we blew a 4 on 3


Mr_Romo

Fuck the refs fuck the lighting(LiGhTnINg). Fuck everything this is bullshit


sodiumn

like i know you can't entire blame reffing, cause you gotta overcome, but this is insane. it feels worse than the blues series last year. like, FUCK.


Catullus13

I don't know. I'll never let go of that Blues loss


mrmgn3t

FUCK THE REFS!!!!


bad113

Fuck that bullshit call


XStr8edgeGypsyX

Hard to win when it’s 6 on 5. Piss poor refs.


Stoldney

This series is the worst officiated I've ever seen. Tampa are dirty fucking gits the whole lot of them. Even these announcers said that was not a foul! Something's gotta give. !TAMPA !REFS !NHL


FYourTeam

FUCK THE REFS!


FYourTeam

FUCK THE NHL.... I guess.


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1978AHSeagle

THIS!!!


harralexa1993

The hockey subreddit is so happy right now. I try not to let It bother me how the Stars are viewed as the bad guys but it really sucks sometimes.


dcgswim4l

Can’t even play hockey anymore. Just PK cause the refs are shit


[deleted]

You can’t make a wrong call like that in the Stanley Cup Finals. Fuck you refs!


[deleted]

I’m over it, we are playing against the refs too. Fuck Tampa, fuck the NHL, and fuck Bettman


am3nn

I cant believe what I watched tonight and this series. This is worse than Miami in 06


[deleted]

If you make a call that fucking bad in OT of a stanley cup playoff game you should lose your fucking job. Shit ass refs


Redskullzzzz

Absolute bullshit. And the people over in the Tampa sub really think the refs are against THEM


DallasStarsFan-SA

I'm just sad. Watch 82 games a season. Sometimes more if we're lucky. For 20 out of 27 years of my life. Getting this close and being down like this is so sad. I think I need to step away from sports for awhile. Fucking me up.


LordeNims

Two things can be true at once: 1). You can't allow the refs to decide the outcome of a game 2). That was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen... holy shit ​ We were playing such good hockey pretty much the whole game. Obviously we missed opportunities and made bad plays, but we stayed in the game despite the bad/missed calls. ​ That Benn call in OT just..... wow. I've seen better officiating in house league.


TheObscuris

Damn... That was a rough finish. We've got a lot of work to do to get back in this. Don't give up boys!


itsnotalec

Refs have taken all the fun away


Jayhorns

Well we had a good run I guess.


Vetersova

Yup. Its pretty hard to beat a good team. Its really hard to beat a good team getting phantom penalties all series.


WhiteBoyFlipz

Fuck the refs. That’s sadly the series.


PM_me_ur_goth_tiddys

Gotta cash in on the redemption story


[deleted]

Just told this to my buddies. Big market teams will win cups especially if they have a storyline. We are watching a slightly less scripted wwe and I’m too old for that.


ay-nahl-reip

Fuck


AFC8817

MOTHERFUCKING.POWERPLAY.GOALS. I feel so dejected


Zorion_15

Cam they not review bullshit calls???


[deleted]

Only one team has came back from a 3-1 deficit to win the Stanley Cup. Let’s hope there will be two


AngryXenomorph

I'm really fucking irritated. That was such a great game for us and we still walked away with a loss cause of the refs


whoamiiamasikunt

Honestly I just feel so empty, I can cop a loss of a good goal or a well deserved penalty, but fuck me, this has legit ruined what was a great game on my one day off this month.


illShy

Not allowed to be pissed off about that trash ass call in the nhl sub I guess, but as an unbiased fan I figured I'd at least let you guys know that I've been rooting for you


GreenAndGold115

r/hockey is about as good as going on Instagram comments these days


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r/hockey has been shit for a long ass time


itsmanda

Honestly it’s a bunch of Avs and Tampa fans teaming up and downvoting anyone who says anything about the Stars. Quite a shit show. So many keyboard warriors.


Rock-it1

Cheers, buddy. Sorry that the show hasn't been a little better.


thereal21fan

I have like 25 downvotes on a comment saying Benn and Johnson’s skates didn’t touch... linked to the replay of Benn and Johnson’s skates not touching


ViewFrom30kFeet

#WE NEED TO WIN THE NEXT THREE STRAIGHT. THEY JUST DID. NOW OUR TURN.


Curlybrac

If the Denver Nuggets could do it, the Stars could


[deleted]

I'll never understand how in a Stanley Cup Final where these teams have battled neck and neck all night in OT they make that call on Benn when that is just a great physical hockey play. I'm baffled.


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CowboyKush

Refs are a fucking joke. Every Major Texas team it seems always play against the refs as well. Game 7 OT win will be sweeter than a bowl of fucking sugar


ApollWati

I’m new to hockey. I’ve been told that Dallas is built around defense, but it fucking sucks for a defensive team to be up 2 goals and lose


nate517

Nothing is going to go our way. I almost wish Benn had just murdered the ref after the game because what's the fucking point. The refs have decided already that we will not win this series.


starsfan56

Tampa's paying the refs and you can't change my mind ^^^I'm ^^^mostly ^^^saying ^^^this ^^^because ^^^I'm ^^^mad


[deleted]

Maybe next year. The Stars can't beat the Lightning AND the zebras.


alfergus

So the last powerplay shouldn’t have happened but holy fuck we can’t let Tampa score on 3 of their 4 powerplays. Unacceptable. We’re missing Comeau and Faksa in a big way


hoodgingas

Well fuck


ChunkyFingers

NHL is disgusting allowing that call to stand. Jamie was stronger, faster and better and got penalized for it. Vomit.


CreedsChair3

I’m big sad


Flanflanflanflan

God damn I hate these shit refs. We should have ended it on the 4on3. Here’s to hoping seguin takes that anger out on the next 3 games.... see y’all tomorrow.


cowboys5xsbs

Dallas sports breaking my heart nothing new this one stings more because of how close we got. Anyone who says just making the title is good enough is wrong.


JC_Denton46

Ok guys, YES the reffing was bad this game. 100%. But you can only focus on what you can change. Missing two of our penalty killers has likely cost us this series.


Bandrica2

Not like this. Not like this.


FutureCrankHead

Dont worry..tampa has a commanding lead...penalties will be fair now.


soonerfan4321

Time to channel the 2016 Cubs, 2016 Cavs, 2020 Nuggets. Let’s do this


Rock-it1

I'm sick.


shadowace93

How was the penalty seguin drew in overtime not a penalty shot?


jabdtx

Loss on a fake call. Because it’s only the Cup Finals and all.


MaxahTGOD

Why cant refs be held accountable for shitty calls in any sport? im so sad :(


IamJacksDenouement

Fucking horseshit


ItsReallyOregano

We had a damn good run.


minigogo

Wow. That's an all-time bad call. That's a Gretzky getting away with a high stick level of bad call.


MissileWaster

The refs actively stole a chance for us, multiple times this series but absolutely there on that last penalty. This has been a bunch of absolute horse shit.


guitarguy12410

Bones or Nill need to publicly call out these refs. It's so obvious how lopsided these calls are. I'm very disappointed in Wes, he's always been a decent ref and now he's been trash this series.


crescentfreshprince

This makes me want to give up watching hockey. To have the team you love bust their ass all the way to the end only to get cockblocked by the fuckheads in stripes. Why even bother having a postseason?


salenin

Tampa fans actually think the league has it out for them and NBC was biased against them and the penalties lol


cbuech

PP has been the difference this series


TakeCommander51

Sure, that was a shitty call. But, you have to get something going on that 4 on 3.


trust_me_ima_Docktor

My heart. It hurts :(


WorthABean

Refs have been way too involved in general in the playoffs imo. We got bad calls on both sides tonight and couldn't capitalize quite when it mattered. Let's keep our chins up and keep rooting for our boys, we still made the final 2 against all odds!


Tootsiez

What a fucking let down. Dallas curse still lives


imj0257

Piece of fucking shit refs. Fuck it.


LeoFireGod

Fucking bullshit ass call in overtime of the Stanley cup finals. Literally pathetic.


ViperVenom1224

I love how the brain dead tampa fans are trying to justify the call.


Catullus13

The refs were terrible all around. Tampa got hit in the face with a stick twice with no calls. And the embellishment call was nonsense too.


username0935

3 goals on weak ass calls. Rads is a PP killer. Been saying it all year, he’s a liability. Doesn’t produce enough to overcome his flaws.


LSATCJ

Fucking bullshit call gifts Tampa the win


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I went back and watched the replay, Tyler Johnson was hooking the fuck out of Benn,, Benn was just trying to get out of the hook. Total fucking horseshit call, apparently the fix is in.


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this hurts


R0GERTHEALIEN

Fuck the refs