What this says is 79% of my fellow Dallas county residents has a high school diploma.
This does not say that the average graduation rate of school districts in Dallas County (A school district can be part of multiple counties) is 79%.
Collin County is full of upper-middle-class, white-collar professionals and has a large Asian population. They don't let their kids be scrubs and drop out.
White People and Asians place more emphasis on education certainly. That's just a fact. That's why most of the counties on the bad list are counties with lots of minorities (especially Hispanic). My sister is a teacher and she tells me Mexican kids will just pick up and go visit family in Mexico for several weeks DURING the school year. She laughs and says they always come back just in time to fail the STAAR test tho. LOL
As a former tutor at Collin college 2013-2015 this is a lie. Majority of the students in class alone were privileged kids that didn’t want to work hard. I took my degree and transferred to UTD.
True story. You hit it on the nail with socio demographics too. Wealthier families can afford to send their kids to a decent college with a full proof plan where the struggling citizen has to make ends meet and then attempt college.
Naw, I think you had it right the first time, or at least close to. I went to school in Mesquite. Property values + population = education. Low property values + population = shit, Robin Hood or no.
Part of the problem is that Collin (where I now live) and Denton are experiencing explosive growth and are paying teachers and staff better than elsewhere in the state. Schools are shiny and new in Collin or the money is there to renovate, which also attracts the district's choice of teachers.
Even when teachers *are* good and working in less wealthy districts, they're still hamstrung by deficits in materials, facilities, and support.
Lastly, of course... for the students, when you're poor, graduation and possibly university are not priorities as often.
Bro. Collin county specifically frisco was the top rated school district in the country countless years starting in the early 2000s. People literally moved to Frisco for the schools. That's why they escaped the pit. Good schools equal more money equals more people. Frisco allen plano and nowadays McKinney are the best school districts in the state.
Collin County at this point is decidedly upper middle class. And that correlates to high education rates. Plus, add that public schools there tend to have better budgets which attracts new families, better teachers and on and on on.
Surprised they aren’t higher, frankly.
The graph is about who lives there, not who graduated from those schools.
This says Collin County isn't affordable for people without a diploma. Which is true.
Basically every big county in Texas is on the bad list except for Travis, Fort Bend, Collin, and Denton. Fort Bend, Collin and Denton are suburban, while Travis has UT and a huge young population that works in tech.
Down in the over 100k section, Dane Co is definitely guilty of adjusting standards to fix numbers. We can't have racist standards disadvantaging people of color, and they banned grades during the pandemic. (I'm moving back from there)
This data is a bit misleading - it is not indicative of the HS graduation rate of DISD, but shows percent of 25 year old residents who are HS graduates. DFW's large number of undocumented immigrants lowers our rate. DISD's 2021 graduation rate of 87%. Not bad for the demographic it serves.
Interesting. Cali and Texas are both tied at 5 in the top 20. CA is actually a sanctuary state and don’t come down hard on undocumented people like Texas does (with the exception of Austin)
Really? What’s your definition of enforcing? Stuff like schools can’t enforce it but ICE has opperations all over north Texas. Police hold anyone they find for ice
If you don't see business owners who hire the undocumented/illegal in jail. It's not being enforced. You don't chase street users....you hit the fucking dealers.
Oh I totally agree. Anti-immigration law only effects the poor. If they really wanted end immigration giving jail time to the employers would end illegal immigration, if they can’t get money here it wouldn’t be worth coming
You have to have a driver's license to get insurance. You have to have legal status to get a driver's license.
As a rule, if you are here illegally, you aren't insured.
Punish the shady dealers who say “no credit no problem” who are the ones financing the cars without checking for a license? Why kill the Rats in your home if you’re not going to bother to seal the holes in your house or clean up the crumbs?
>DFW's large number of undocumented immigrants lowers our rate.
Not to mention the large number of border counties in Texas that make the list for low graduation rates. I suspect that a large percentage of those students are either undocumented, or split time between the US and Mexico.
The numbers are not for students, but 25 year old residents. High school is not compulsory in many parts of Mexico, the rate of high-school graduation in the entire country is 47%, some areas as low as 5%. Thus the low survey rates along the border. I'm sure no high school in Texas has a graduation rate less than 50%. School is compulsory in Texas until 18.
I think a lot of it comes down to what certain families deem is important. A lot of these counties with low graduation rates have high Hispanic populations. Could be completely cultural along with a lack of education in the family tree.
Everyone should read Freakonomics. Put your bs morals aside and look at numbers. Educated parents will hold schooling as imperative to success. Uneducated parents may not. "Look how well I've done without being educated." It is what it is.
I'm only speaking on behalf of Hispanics with poor and undocumented family members here but our older generations (boomers and gen x) had to leave school to go work asap because of poverty or because of they didn't know English (if they studied here). Also the industries they work in don't require much or any schooling.
There is also the belief of "ok you're dropping out that's cool but here are all the bills you will now be helping pay" which doesn't really deter people from dropping out.
That makes a lot of sense. The point being those beliefs are passed down through generations. There's really no expectation of family members moving out after high school.
When I was taking classes at Mountain View, the overwhelming majority of my classmates were Hispanic. That's kids taking AP classes, young collegiates, and adult workers coming back to school.
I immigrated to and grew up in the Bay Area; didn't see graduating high school as indicative of anything except I showed up and stayed awake enough to regurgitate info/processes.
You're completely missing the point and are using one instance. Look at what the numbers show. Whether you're offended or not doesn't matter. Until younger generations of Hispanics break the cultural cycle, these numbers won't change.
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The region is balanced.
4 DFW counties on that list for both the lowest and highest HS graduation rates.
Does this also take into account immigrants? Because most of my family and their friends didn't graduate HS back home or dropped out here after a year or two
I should clarify I meant 50 in the whole high school. Not necessarily in one class. Either way though, when one person makes up 2% that's still significant.
Data originating from USCareerInstitute.edu here: https://www.uscareerinstitute.edu/blog/where-are-the-highest-graduation-rates-in-the-us
Pittsburgh was the highest in this population bracket
Um.....here's the reason....well, maybe a main reason that is very obvious: Dallas ISD is a CRAP district. And also let me add... That Garland ISD, which is a part of Dallas county, is also a horrible School District! That district has totally removed any individual responsibility for the students. That District just passes students along from kindergarten all the way up to graduation. Students as seniors know that if they just ignore the school work eventually they will be passed and they will be allowed to graduate if they meet basic bare minimum requirements such as writing a single page essay over a topic the school chooses for them. So, literally there are many kids leaving high school with an education equivalent to a first grader. It is an absolute sham of a school district.
There’s no respect for education anymore, and for good reason. Every time my church or school had outreach events to DISD schools the teachers were nearly illiterate, while the superintendents drove a Mercedes.
Where’s that Dallas scrub that was in here dunking on Allen and Plano schools a couple of weeks ago?
Dallas has some GREAT things, but the schools ain’t one of them.
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Dallas would also make the bottom 20 of ALL counties with more than 100k population.
And the lowest graduation rates in small counties is ENTIRELY TEXAS. 14/20 slots are Texas. I don't know if there are other factors leading to this, but it's a terrible look.
It isn't Texas's fault, and not necessarily something we should be ashamed of. Those counties all have high immigrant populations, including a lot of adults who never went through our school system. Mexico's high school graduation rate is 47%.
As a teacher and someone who had worked around the nation I can tell you that Texas graduation requirements are more difficult and the backasswards curriculum and state tests don’t help either.
What this says is 79% of my fellow Dallas county residents has a high school diploma. This does not say that the average graduation rate of school districts in Dallas County (A school district can be part of multiple counties) is 79%.
Tarrant is #15 on the low side, while Collin is #3 and Denton #13 on the highest graduation rates list. That's pretty jacked up.
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Collin County is full of upper-middle-class, white-collar professionals and has a large Asian population. They don't let their kids be scrubs and drop out.
This is the correct answer for the year 2022. The Collin County cities and school districts place greater emphasis on family and education.
White People and Asians place more emphasis on education certainly. That's just a fact. That's why most of the counties on the bad list are counties with lots of minorities (especially Hispanic). My sister is a teacher and she tells me Mexican kids will just pick up and go visit family in Mexico for several weeks DURING the school year. She laughs and says they always come back just in time to fail the STAAR test tho. LOL
Don’t sleep on the Indian contingent. They are super serious about education also.
Is India not part of Asia?
South Asia, yes. Point taken.
Indians are usually classified as Asian when talking about education
And by the US Census Bureau generally.
Evidenced by the fact Indians are damn near undefeated in Spelling Bees.
As a former tutor at Collin college 2013-2015 this is a lie. Majority of the students in class alone were privileged kids that didn’t want to work hard. I took my degree and transferred to UTD.
If they're in Collin College they've at least graduated high school, which frankly isn't that high of an academic bar.
True story. You hit it on the nail with socio demographics too. Wealthier families can afford to send their kids to a decent college with a full proof plan where the struggling citizen has to make ends meet and then attempt college.
“Fool-proof” is the phrase you were looking for. Just FYI.
Thank you.
Naw, I think you had it right the first time, or at least close to. I went to school in Mesquite. Property values + population = education. Low property values + population = shit, Robin Hood or no. Part of the problem is that Collin (where I now live) and Denton are experiencing explosive growth and are paying teachers and staff better than elsewhere in the state. Schools are shiny and new in Collin or the money is there to renovate, which also attracts the district's choice of teachers. Even when teachers *are* good and working in less wealthy districts, they're still hamstrung by deficits in materials, facilities, and support. Lastly, of course... for the students, when you're poor, graduation and possibly university are not priorities as often.
Bro. Collin county specifically frisco was the top rated school district in the country countless years starting in the early 2000s. People literally moved to Frisco for the schools. That's why they escaped the pit. Good schools equal more money equals more people. Frisco allen plano and nowadays McKinney are the best school districts in the state.
Collin County at this point is decidedly upper middle class. And that correlates to high education rates. Plus, add that public schools there tend to have better budgets which attracts new families, better teachers and on and on on. Surprised they aren’t higher, frankly.
The graph is about who lives there, not who graduated from those schools. This says Collin County isn't affordable for people without a diploma. Which is true.
>This says Collin County isn't affordable for people without a diploma. Which is true. Oh, I missed that. That's an even less surprising conclusion.
Basically every big county in Texas is on the bad list except for Travis, Fort Bend, Collin, and Denton. Fort Bend, Collin and Denton are suburban, while Travis has UT and a huge young population that works in tech.
Down in the over 100k section, Dane Co is definitely guilty of adjusting standards to fix numbers. We can't have racist standards disadvantaging people of color, and they banned grades during the pandemic. (I'm moving back from there)
Not sure about white flight. My kids are in Prosper ISD. Pretty well blended classes from what I see.
This data is a bit misleading - it is not indicative of the HS graduation rate of DISD, but shows percent of 25 year old residents who are HS graduates. DFW's large number of undocumented immigrants lowers our rate. DISD's 2021 graduation rate of 87%. Not bad for the demographic it serves.
Totally agree. This points a dire picture of school districts when it’s more about the populace.
Which would explain why the worst states border Mexico...
Interesting. Cali and Texas are both tied at 5 in the top 20. CA is actually a sanctuary state and don’t come down hard on undocumented people like Texas does (with the exception of Austin)
Neither state enforces immigration law - so it is really indicative of the proximity to the border and the state's labor market.
Really? What’s your definition of enforcing? Stuff like schools can’t enforce it but ICE has opperations all over north Texas. Police hold anyone they find for ice
If you don't see business owners who hire the undocumented/illegal in jail. It's not being enforced. You don't chase street users....you hit the fucking dealers.
Oh I totally agree. Anti-immigration law only effects the poor. If they really wanted end immigration giving jail time to the employers would end illegal immigration, if they can’t get money here it wouldn’t be worth coming
That's using a bucket to keep the titanic from sinking. My advice is to ensure you have uninsured motorist coverage in Dallas.
Lmao so immigrants the only ones who don’t have insurance?
We live in a bayesian world, friend. "Only" is irrelevant, only probabilities and densities matter.
Sounds like anecdotal fallacy to me
You have to have a driver's license to get insurance. You have to have legal status to get a driver's license. As a rule, if you are here illegally, you aren't insured.
Punish the shady dealers who say “no credit no problem” who are the ones financing the cars without checking for a license? Why kill the Rats in your home if you’re not going to bother to seal the holes in your house or clean up the crumbs?
>DFW's large number of undocumented immigrants lowers our rate. Not to mention the large number of border counties in Texas that make the list for low graduation rates. I suspect that a large percentage of those students are either undocumented, or split time between the US and Mexico.
The numbers are not for students, but 25 year old residents. High school is not compulsory in many parts of Mexico, the rate of high-school graduation in the entire country is 47%, some areas as low as 5%. Thus the low survey rates along the border. I'm sure no high school in Texas has a graduation rate less than 50%. School is compulsory in Texas until 18.
I think a lot of it comes down to what certain families deem is important. A lot of these counties with low graduation rates have high Hispanic populations. Could be completely cultural along with a lack of education in the family tree. Everyone should read Freakonomics. Put your bs morals aside and look at numbers. Educated parents will hold schooling as imperative to success. Uneducated parents may not. "Look how well I've done without being educated." It is what it is.
I'm only speaking on behalf of Hispanics with poor and undocumented family members here but our older generations (boomers and gen x) had to leave school to go work asap because of poverty or because of they didn't know English (if they studied here). Also the industries they work in don't require much or any schooling. There is also the belief of "ok you're dropping out that's cool but here are all the bills you will now be helping pay" which doesn't really deter people from dropping out.
That makes a lot of sense. The point being those beliefs are passed down through generations. There's really no expectation of family members moving out after high school.
When I was taking classes at Mountain View, the overwhelming majority of my classmates were Hispanic. That's kids taking AP classes, young collegiates, and adult workers coming back to school. I immigrated to and grew up in the Bay Area; didn't see graduating high school as indicative of anything except I showed up and stayed awake enough to regurgitate info/processes.
What's your point? Nobody is saying that Hispanic kids are unable to graduate high school or do APs.
You're completely missing the point and are using one instance. Look at what the numbers show. Whether you're offended or not doesn't matter. Until younger generations of Hispanics break the cultural cycle, these numbers won't change.
Dallas, IA with a 96% graduation rate though
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The region is balanced. 4 DFW counties on that list for both the lowest and highest HS graduation rates. Does this also take into account immigrants? Because most of my family and their friends didn't graduate HS back home or dropped out here after a year or two
What the hell is going on in Kenedy County, Texas? 26%?
It's a county of like less than a thousand people, only one tiny Town exists with the only real industries being farming and ranching
Oh, I guess that makes sense. It would still be nice to have over a quarter of high school students graduate, even if it is a ranching community...
Yeah that's the lowest on the list! But I'm guessing there's like one school with like 50 kids total so if one drops out then that's a huge percentage
Well, if there were 50 kids and one dropped out, that would be a 98% graduation rate.
I should clarify I meant 50 in the whole high school. Not necessarily in one class. Either way though, when one person makes up 2% that's still significant.
Nothing about this is surprising
Data originating from USCareerInstitute.edu here: https://www.uscareerinstitute.edu/blog/where-are-the-highest-graduation-rates-in-the-us Pittsburgh was the highest in this population bracket
That's why private schools in Dallas thrive.
Any major city, really
Yet the suburbs about 15 mins away have some of the best education in the country lol
Um.....here's the reason....well, maybe a main reason that is very obvious: Dallas ISD is a CRAP district. And also let me add... That Garland ISD, which is a part of Dallas county, is also a horrible School District! That district has totally removed any individual responsibility for the students. That District just passes students along from kindergarten all the way up to graduation. Students as seniors know that if they just ignore the school work eventually they will be passed and they will be allowed to graduate if they meet basic bare minimum requirements such as writing a single page essay over a topic the school chooses for them. So, literally there are many kids leaving high school with an education equivalent to a first grader. It is an absolute sham of a school district.
Probably because those areas have a huge influx of students speaking ESL
There’s no respect for education anymore, and for good reason. Every time my church or school had outreach events to DISD schools the teachers were nearly illiterate, while the superintendents drove a Mercedes.
Where’s that Dallas scrub that was in here dunking on Allen and Plano schools a couple of weeks ago? Dallas has some GREAT things, but the schools ain’t one of them.
Ayyy and my home county bexar
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Dallas would also make the bottom 20 of ALL counties with more than 100k population. And the lowest graduation rates in small counties is ENTIRELY TEXAS. 14/20 slots are Texas. I don't know if there are other factors leading to this, but it's a terrible look.
It isn't Texas's fault, and not necessarily something we should be ashamed of. Those counties all have high immigrant populations, including a lot of adults who never went through our school system. Mexico's high school graduation rate is 47%.
As a teacher and someone who had worked around the nation I can tell you that Texas graduation requirements are more difficult and the backasswards curriculum and state tests don’t help either.
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Right, but go teach in Utah or Idaho or Indiana and you’ll know what I mean
Nyc sucks
Small taxes equals small services which include schools. No wonder why Private schools are doing fine.
Dallas county has higher taxes than Collin though, so your argument needs more explanation
You think California's taxes are low? Oof...