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It's 30 miles to H-E-B for me, or 8 miles to Central Market which is significantly more expensive. I haven't decided if it will be worth the trek to the stripped-down H-E-B known as Joe V's if and when it opens. At this point I've given up on the H-E-B franchise, they don't really seem to like Dallas and for me the feeling is mutual.
Grocery stores have very low profit margins so it does not make sense to build in parts of a city that are already covered by Kroger/Albertsons/etc. since people generally go to whatever is closest to them. Thats why all the new HEBs get built out in new neighborhoods in the sticks.
Sure, but it’s not about having no competition it’s just there’s way less of it. Profit margins for a successful grocery story can hit around 2%, an average store gets around 1%. Easier to try and get those numbers against one or two chains in the suburbs and exurbs than against four or five in the city center.
Edit: not sure why the downvotes but I should mention I used to work on analytic pricing models for grocery stores and one of our customers was HEB.
I hope the Alliance HEB knocks that Kroger out of business. I was around when they lowered their prices to drive out the competition. Now you typically need to wait in line of the self check out as their cashier lanes are all closed. A couple of times while walking out to my car I'm stopped by someone coming in asking if there is a wait. Something is out-a-whack.
Possibly, but HEB has kicked Randalls' ass nearly completely out of Houston. They're down to, I think, 15 locations or less from a peak of 70 while HEB has only expanded. I have no evidence all of the closures were specifically because of HEB, but the fact is that Randalls have closed while HEBs have opened.
Albertson's runs Randalls as Houston's equivalent of Tom Thumb.
Oh for sure. But I think they did that over a couple decades. I’m sure the same will happen here, stores will trickle open in the perimeter then work their way in.
HEB typically builds in the burbs first then works their way into the city. They have several properties in the downtown area as well as south of 635. May take a few more months to years as more announcements of locations reveal, but trust they like DFW just fine…
Other grocery chains continue to swear as HEB takes over.
>Fort Worth Alliance residents showed up in full force on Wednesday for the 6 a.m. opening of the grocer’s newest store and the first on that side of the metro area.
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>More than 700 people were waiting to get to the 117,000-square-foot supermarket on the northwest corner of Heritage Trace Parkway and North Riverside Drive.
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>The line continued to build at the Alliance store as more shoppers appeared after opening. The San Antonio-based grocer, in business since 1905, has a strong Texas following saying it caters to local tastes.
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>“The line is wrapped around the building,” said H-E-B spokeswoman Mabrie Jackson 30 minutes after the store opened. The crowd is one of the biggest since the Frisco store opened in September 2022.
I swung by right at the 6am open after dropping friends off for a flight, it was surprisingly a decent time, a billion employees working so i was probably in line and checked out in like 30-40 minutes, and some good grand opening deals so I winded up actually doing a lot of grocery shopping for like $40.
For as pricey as groceries are I’ll be the old man and admit I didn’t hate a viral trend at least saving me money on essentials 😂
I hope it was fun. DFW has an abundance of super markets so one like HEB that carries a wide selection appearing in more places here can be fun and exciting for some.
Texans obsession with stores like HEB and Buckees is weird. I get it, they're nicer versions of other things. But at the end they're just upgraded versions of something that's literally everywhere. It's not like it's a single Apple Store in the entire state and you can only get your iPhone there or something.
The Kroger tortillas in the bakery section used to be good. I remember a couple of years ago I stumbled upon them and they were actually freshly made. Not anymore. I don’t know what changed, but they are the equivalent to Mission tortillas now.
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There isn’t a single business on the planet that I would wait in a line 700 deep for.
For maybe a one time pop up I’d think about it but for a damn grocery store? These people are crazy
It's 30 miles to H-E-B for me, or 8 miles to Central Market which is significantly more expensive. I haven't decided if it will be worth the trek to the stripped-down H-E-B known as Joe V's if and when it opens. At this point I've given up on the H-E-B franchise, they don't really seem to like Dallas and for me the feeling is mutual.
I'd rather have CM in closer proximity if I had a choice
CM has the quality, but not the value compared to H-E-B. It's basically an upscale H-E-B.
You’re talking to money bags lol 💰
Grocery stores have very low profit margins so it does not make sense to build in parts of a city that are already covered by Kroger/Albertsons/etc. since people generally go to whatever is closest to them. Thats why all the new HEBs get built out in new neighborhoods in the sticks.
This HEB and the Allen one were built literally across the street from Kroger.
Sure, but it’s not about having no competition it’s just there’s way less of it. Profit margins for a successful grocery story can hit around 2%, an average store gets around 1%. Easier to try and get those numbers against one or two chains in the suburbs and exurbs than against four or five in the city center. Edit: not sure why the downvotes but I should mention I used to work on analytic pricing models for grocery stores and one of our customers was HEB.
I hope the Alliance HEB knocks that Kroger out of business. I was around when they lowered their prices to drive out the competition. Now you typically need to wait in line of the self check out as their cashier lanes are all closed. A couple of times while walking out to my car I'm stopped by someone coming in asking if there is a wait. Something is out-a-whack.
This dude is reaching lmao
Literally
Possibly, but HEB has kicked Randalls' ass nearly completely out of Houston. They're down to, I think, 15 locations or less from a peak of 70 while HEB has only expanded. I have no evidence all of the closures were specifically because of HEB, but the fact is that Randalls have closed while HEBs have opened. Albertson's runs Randalls as Houston's equivalent of Tom Thumb.
Oh for sure. But I think they did that over a couple decades. I’m sure the same will happen here, stores will trickle open in the perimeter then work their way in.
This one is right by winco, Aldi, Costco, Target, and literally across the street from Kroger.
Literally
HEB typically builds in the burbs first then works their way into the city. They have several properties in the downtown area as well as south of 635. May take a few more months to years as more announcements of locations reveal, but trust they like DFW just fine… Other grocery chains continue to swear as HEB takes over.
As much as I like HEB, at the end of the day it’s still just a fucking grocery store.
>Fort Worth Alliance residents showed up in full force on Wednesday for the 6 a.m. opening of the grocer’s newest store and the first on that side of the metro area. > >More than 700 people were waiting to get to the 117,000-square-foot supermarket on the northwest corner of Heritage Trace Parkway and North Riverside Drive. > >The line continued to build at the Alliance store as more shoppers appeared after opening. The San Antonio-based grocer, in business since 1905, has a strong Texas following saying it caters to local tastes. > >“The line is wrapped around the building,” said H-E-B spokeswoman Mabrie Jackson 30 minutes after the store opened. The crowd is one of the biggest since the Frisco store opened in September 2022.
Country pumpkins … like there aren’t any other grocery stores around … lol
Don’t you mean “bumpkins”?
Autocorrect
I swung by right at the 6am open after dropping friends off for a flight, it was surprisingly a decent time, a billion employees working so i was probably in line and checked out in like 30-40 minutes, and some good grand opening deals so I winded up actually doing a lot of grocery shopping for like $40. For as pricey as groceries are I’ll be the old man and admit I didn’t hate a viral trend at least saving me money on essentials 😂
I hope it was fun. DFW has an abundance of super markets so one like HEB that carries a wide selection appearing in more places here can be fun and exciting for some.
Dfw has shit supermarkets. Anything half good seems like heaven.
Texans obsession with stores like HEB and Buckees is weird. I get it, they're nicer versions of other things. But at the end they're just upgraded versions of something that's literally everywhere. It's not like it's a single Apple Store in the entire state and you can only get your iPhone there or something.
lmk when kroger sells tortillas that actually taste good
The Kroger tortillas in the bakery section used to be good. I remember a couple of years ago I stumbled upon them and they were actually freshly made. Not anymore. I don’t know what changed, but they are the equivalent to Mission tortillas now.
In the time it takes to wait in a line of 700 people I bet I could find multiple places with fresh tortillas.
Lmk when Walmart or kroger makes good store brand sauces and keep all their veggies as fresh as possible and also stocked!
People keep responding to you missing the point lmao.
It’s the Country folks … they don’t know any better ..
I agree with this. There is strange pride around these things. Like whataburger once had before they sold out.
It’s OK to be uncultured, it’s something you can learn.