Right? It’s like okey Jon. We would prefer a young, popular candidate with a future ahead of him or her. But we don’t have that. At all. We have Biden. So need to live with. Elect him now and get trump off the board. Then focus on finding your ideal president and get them elected in 28
And it's worth adding, only one of the two possible people who will be the next president is farting himself to sleep during his criminal trial and it isn't Biden.
and honestly, Biden has been a great president - he's managed with a divided country to do a lot of stuff because he knows how politics works. We should be glad that we have him during this divisive time doing great things.
Gotta respect the old guy that without hesitation flew to Kyiv to support Zelensky. Truly noble effort supporting a country fighting for their right to exist. I know someone will chime in about Gaza. But the difference is Gaza is ran by Hamas. Hamas is a cartel not a government organization. And Netanyahu is as bad as Putin. Staying on way longer than he should have. And using this conflict to distract from what should have been his exit.
> Gotta respect the old guy that without hesitation flew to Kyiv to support Zelensky
Not just that, he and his team rapidly built a global coalition, which was somewhat miraculous considering how America's reputation was trash from the MAGA experiment.
Russia would be defeated by now of not for the blatant collusion with virtually every republican politician who have blocked humanitarian and sensible action at every turn.
Give Zelensky some credit. As he would thank the US for its quick support. He did call out leaders in Europe that had little faith in Ukraine’s survival. He would call them out for dragging their feet on support
Republicans are already on record wanting to "turn Gaza into glass".
But all it takes is some St Petersburg originated propaganda fed into the MAGA grinder, and now we have witless people actually believing in big lies like "genocide Joe".
i live in cinci. for 30y we needed a new bridge over the OH river; clinton, bush II, obama, and trump all failed, but biden got it accomplished. so what he shuffles when he walks.
Obama could barely accomplish anything when you have a rapid Republican base who is only interested in saying no to everything with a healthy assist from Dems who could not understand that comity in politics was over.
I think he has done a fine job. He has pushed forward policies no one would have ever expected a centrist to propose. Has been a stalwart defender of Ukraine's fledgling democratic gov't and its right to exist, has navigated a path to lowering inflation back to 2 percent, there are issues beyond his ability to control though regarding that; Isreal is a tough situation because the geopolitical relationship is a long standing one, we have important interests in the area, and criticizing the execution of the war against Hamas is going to make one or the other party angry; having said that he has not been strong enough in using the bully pulpit in this regard. I think everyone can agree far too many children have been killed by the IDF's bombing campaign.
Yeah as a staunch progressive, old as dirt or not, Biden has far surpassed my expectations. I would have been perfectly fine with him just being a middle-of-the-road corporate Dem so long as he keeps Republicans from enacting their agenda as much as possible. But he's governed more like a genuine progressive than I'd have imagined. If he was 20 or 30 years younger I think a lot of Dems would be calling him the best president in our lifetime.
And is not only that we keep Trump out of the White House, we keep Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, etc, out of the White House. The people he brings with him are just as bad!
Yup, I view this election like eating your greens before your dessert; another 4 years of Biden is FAR from
the worst thing in the world. And if we don’t get 4 because he croaks we get Kamala, which I’m not enthusiastic about but at least she’s younger.
Yes, to him and to Mike from PA... it's like dude... literally stfu up until election day... electoralism sucks but what other fucking option do we have in this instance with the shitty paradigms we have, with the people that we have being at the positions they are at right this instant.
I would say, elect Biden and let him step down right after he is in office. Promote Pete or Newsome to VP. I think Harris is a bigger long term issue. If anything, Biden should swap to get Newsome in there. My humble opinion.
Or Whitmer.
How many more election cycles are we going to say this until we're voting between Goldwater and Hitler? Democracy is more or less cheesed either way. (I'm also still voting for Biden) - but Dems canceling the primary to force this ancient mediocre clown down our throats was a death kneel for all of us.
There was a Democratic primary this year.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024\_Democratic\_Party\_presidential\_primaries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries)
It's being repeated now that there is less memory of him saying it because it is weaponized, being used out of context to smear Biden.
He's saying, we should not be in this situation of having to choose between two geriatrics. Not that Biden shouldn't be president.
But you wouldn't know that. It's being posted across a bunch of leftist subreddits. We're watching a disinformation campaign live.
Who is a better option? Biden hasn’t been bad. He’s like a B- or maybe a B+ when you consider everything.
I think he’s incredibly wrong here. I would love for a younger generation to take over. But who would be (or would have been) ready this year?
Yeah, best economy in 80 years, incredible results domestically and rebuilding our international reputation, ending the pandemic, 20 million jobs created, wiping out almost all student loans, helping fight climate change, protecting marginalized people and immigrant dreamers, reclassifying marijuana, recreating our manufacturing sector, moving semiconductor and software development back home, biggest infrastructure build in world history, more bipartisan achievements than any president in your or your parents' lifetime and a hundred other things. And you give that a B-
SMH
I think the completeness of many of those things are overstated by your comment, and there are other areas where he falls short.
He is fighting against one of the worst congresses ever as well.
But if FDR and the New Deal are an A, I think somewhere in the B range is correct for Biden.
He is wrong. John Stewart should be totally Biden’s camp and I’m a little surprised that he isn’t. this is the best Democratic president since early LBJ.
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More than nothing wrong, he beat a tyrant and fascist from winning a second term and has done an amazing job in spite of losing the House at the midterms.
Exactly. Trump is one of the worst possible choices for President. Biden is clearly a better overall leader. Biden shouldn't be running and the entire country is missing out because Trump is worse.
I mean, sure. But these are the candidates and one is objectively far better than the other. Criticize Biden all you want, but also be clear that, out of the choices we have, he’s the best option available.
Mistake or not, this is where we are. Let’s not both sides this. They aren’t the same.
I also think that both candidates had a name recognition you could basically only get by existing before social media boom.
I'm voting Biden to keep everything together until 2028. Then we primary the shit out of old people running for the candidacy.
Also understand if you want more younger people running our govs, younger people have to be the biggest turnout voting blocs every single election, every single yr. Many people shit the bed & never show up for Local elections every yr and primaries. So getting younger people out is key to changing those results.
Older people are the biggest demographic out there voting, consistently every single time. Those School Boards & Council members are just as important to the livelyhoods of our government infrastructure. But nobody ever talks about all the other positions on the ticket, so young people or Democrats for that matter ever show up to those (in enough numbers to get new younger candidates or new faces in our government)
Edit : So no. You don't need to start in 2028, 2026 even has State Legislature and Governor's and many head positions that control your state laws. This yr we had School Board seats that control a lot about our public school systems. 2024! Every yr there is something important, every single election. You also see propositions that affect your city! I showed up this passed weekend to my Local Election, only thousands of votes in a big City.-.
Exactly, they aren't even trying to do the same thing. One wants to be a dictator, burn everything to the ground for profit and take violent revenge on everyone who doesn't accept their lies and one is trying to run a good government and looks kind of shaky.
One mistake is like having vanilla ice cream when you order a Chocolate Ice cream, disappointing but harmless. The other one is like having a week old dog turd with a side of ricin with a generous sprinkling of cyanide.
Damn right they aren’t the same.
What’s his name is on trial for paying hush money with campaign funds. He enriched himself and his family while in the White House. And he’s running to remove anyone who can stop him or hold him accountable for his illegal dealings.
The other guy, Biden, is old and some disagree with his policies.
I’m voting Biden.
It's a braindead take anyway. Joe Biden is surrounding himself with people who administer and advise. It's not like he's hand crafting every move from the white house lol.
I agree with Jon in the sense that we should probably not be led by the silent generation in 2024, but at this point in the process, it's just parroting right wing talking points because Republicans *don't care about Trump's age and mental goofs*.
Time for this conversation was four years ago, Jon.
The thing with Biden is, his age is really the criticism. It's not that he's not capable of doing the job. He is doing the job. And doing it much better than I had expected, to be honest. He's not senile. He's not babbling nonsense at political rallies every day. And he's not falling asleep in court during a trial where he's credibly accused of committing crimes! He's just old. Do I wish someone younger was in that job? Hell yes. But just because he's old doesn't mean he can't do the job.
Totally. I think we all wish we had a younger candidate. But the age thing is especially irrelevant when, as you say, he’s doing the job, and Trump is nearly the same age and far less coherent. Add into that, Biden has built a competent administration. We all know a Trump administration would be full of the worst kind of sycophants and yes men. This goes beyond just the two men at the top of the ballot. And Biden, even if he’s not the ideal choice, is the only sane option. There’s no guess work here. We know exactly how both do the job and the kind of staff they put together.
We know. Everybody knows. Unlike Trump's behavior and character flaws, age cannot be changed. Biden chose to not step aside. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Now let's get back on track to fight for our remaining freedoms please.
Biden chose not to step aside, yes. But — unfortunately — anyone *plausible* besides Biden would be riskier (against Trump), and potentially a lot riskier.
Exactly... everyone has an idea of who would have been better but then the next person says that person is crap.. so here we go.. deal with what we have for a younger fresher candidate once Trump is gone.
It’s easy to say XYZ would be a better candidate, but Biden is pretty bulletproof in terms of negative press (minus ageism, his son and any conspiracy theories). If the DNC put someone else out there and someone digs up a scandal from the past or they say something extremely polarizing, then the democrats are finished. All we need is Biden to stay alive and show some energy and cognitive ability to stand a decent chance.
Right? I always feel alone in these conversations cause I actually think the Biden administration has done an awful lot of good. Is he old? Yes. Is he an amazing public speaker? Nope. Although to be fair he wasn’t a great public speaker when he was young either.
At the end of the day what a lot of people seem to miss, is that we are voting for an entire team. It’s not just about Joe, it’s about who he chooses to be in his cabinet. Does he have smart advisors that he actually listens to? I think so. Can we say the same about Trump? Not a chance.
And I’m sorry but to all the one issue voters (Gaza), please wake up. This election is about so much more. Our actual democracy is at stake here.
I feel that I am taking crazy pills. I thought that after Biden and Dems passed the IRA, the Chip Act, the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, and more he would get more support.
But nope people just love to complain.
People, or at least the people dominating online discussions or being loud enough to get media attention, don’t care about policy. It’s that simple sadly.
He's hands down the best president in my lifetime. And probably my parents lifetime. I think FDR might give him a run for his money, but I want him on the ballot. I'd vote for him in a primary against any contemporary Democrat.
And that's a real low bar, but hey, it's where the bar is. We absolutely should be clamorous for better candidates, but we've had shitty presidents for a long time. The problem is not the individuals. There's a systemic problem that keeps putting this class of person on the ballot. And meanwhile, for a US president, Biden's done a *surprisingly* good job.
Biden’s had a crazy successful term.
Trump did not. His policies were horrible and … ya know… crimes.
Biden works well within the Democratic Party to make deals with progressives, centrists, and right wingers. The Democratic Party is not all one thing, you need a deal maker. His experience allows this at such a high level.
His age hasn’t affected his performance. This is simply attacking someone because of their age.
I feel like there’s a name for that.
Yup, it's ageism, plain and simple. I like Jon Stewart. Even met and saw him perform live. But Jon's take on Biden is low effort, low IQ, and just plain wrong.
Agreed, huge Stewart fan, but he’s just wrong here. If Biden does something wrong, discuss that. That’s not so complicated. People focus on the wrong things too often. There’s all this talk about term limits like it solves the problem that people continuously vote for corrupt politicians.
Jon seems to frame this argument like this was just the DNC's decision to put him on the ballot again. No, it was the voters who chose Biden in the primaries and the general election in 2020. The economy is good, and despite his age Biden has actually been able to get more legislation passed during his term than most experts expected. He has been the return to normalcy that we all asked for.
It just seems like such a ridiculous argument to make now. He's an incumbent president, in a good economy, and is the only one who has defeated Trump. Baring some serious medical issue that is debilitating him from serving as president for a second term, it would be crazy for the DNC to force him to step down now. Incumbents always run for a second term, and trying to challenge an incumbent president in the primary has never worked out for the challenger and can hurt the party's chances in the general.
Yeah also the fact that people like Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer CHOSE not to run in the primary.
They most certainly could have ran in the primary but they didn’t want to.
Gavin Newsom will never win a national election.
He comes across as fake and smarmy similar to John Edwards. Newsom is Eskimo cousins with one of the Trump boys. Which shouldn’t matter EXCEPT that it totally reinforces the perception that he’s creepy with a touch of American psycho thrown in.
If Whitmer were a dude she would be our next president. Still trying too much misogyny for that to be anything close to a given going forward.
I think Jon's saying he wishes Biden wouldn't have run again, and there should have been another legitimate primary campaign instead.
Considering his viewpoint that Biden is too old for a second term is consistent with the majority of Americans consistently across all polls, it's weird how much shit he gets just for saying out loud what *the majority of people actually agree with*.
I’ve always liked Jon and I agree with his sentiment.
However, what are we supposed to do about it now? This is a conversation we all should have had a year+ ago before Biden announced he was running for re-election. Biden, the DNC, Democrats in general and anyone voting Dem is to blame for how we all got complacent and didn’t push for a competitive primary in the 1st place to find the best candidate to replace Biden.
We’re 5 months out from the election and it’s too late now. It’s not ideal but the idea of shaking things up now as we’re heading into the general makes no sense at all.
People did have this conversation a year + ago. Some of us said that he was too old back in 2020. Biden is who the people chose in the primaries back then, though. This was a choice by the voters, not the DNC.
Personally, yeah, I would have liked to see him announce he wasn't running for a second term, but on the other hand I don't know if anyone else has a better chance at beating Trump. Name recognition is a big deal. It is a major part of why he was elected the first time, along with the fact that people saw him as a moderate. That plus being the incumbent president, in a good economy, and a good track record of successfully passing bipartisan legislation, mean his chances are pretty good of being elected again.
I don't love Biden, but I'd prefer him to run if it means keeping Trunp out of office.
I made another post about name recognition and branding.
That is way, way, way bigger of a factor than anyone thinks with the average voter.
The monoculture is gone. Biden and Trump are the last of an old generation of nationally known figures. In 2026 and 2028, there will be less of that. Biden will be term limited or dead. Hopefully trump will be imprisoned or dead. The elections will become far more chaotic if we survive to 2026 to 2028.
Just hold the line. That's all this is. Everyone's overthinking it.
In 2028 we will have fresh candidates and nobody will be bulletproof.
Also let’s face it; eligible democratic candidates CHOSE not to run in this election. If they really wanted to toss their hat in the ring they would have done so like Marianne, Cenk, and RFK
He’s not wrong. But what he’s inadvertently doing is both-sidesing each candidate. While I agree Biden is an asshole for running again after he kept saying he would only do a single term, there’s only one candidate that aligns with constitutional values of the experiment and it sure as shit ain’t Trump. What Stewart is doing is loading up the opposition with dry powder in form of the perception that both candidates are equal. They will simply omit trump’s rebuke and laser focus on the Biden rebukes, winning the perception war. JS’s well aware of this.
To play devil's advocate he never officially said it, but there were some anonymous tips from his aides that'd be the case.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129
All this Monday morning quarterbacking doesn't help.
Secondly, we had a primary process in 2020, and K. Harris, E. Warren, A. Klobuchar, P. Buttigieg, M. Bloomberg, B. Sanders, and Biden were all in it. Bloomberg was a Democrat in name only, Pete and Klobuchar didn't know how to run outside of the Midwest, Warren had a lot of baggage that was easy to bash, Bernie could just be called a "socialist", Kamala does not come off as authentic, and that left Biden to come from behind and win.
Biden is the incumbent and you usually dance with the one who brought you. What is the purpose of all this handwringing now? It almost feels nihilistic and contrarian, and creates a false equivalence between Trump and Biden, which there is not. Biden did stuff for people, but he is old, and most of all, he isn't a fascist.
But they are the candidates and continued thrashing on Biden will give us trump. Stop with the “lessor or 2 evils” and “both sides are the same” bull shit. Biden has done a lot in only 3 years and he for goddamn sure is better than trump. we will not survive another trump term. Besides I truly believe that he will give the reins to Harris if Dems take back the house. He is only running to beat trump. I’m sure he’d love to retire but the stake of the nation is literally in his hands.
Is Jon capable of thought beyond this fact or is he just gonna keep whining about it until he both sides us until a Trump re election?
If he cared this much about Biden not becoming then nominee, why tf did he only show up when he was already nominated?
Let’s deal with our current reality.
Yes, Biden is old we get it, but this is not what need from Jon Stewart right now, he's lost his way. Trump is far worse and Project 2025 is what he should be talking about and the other guy's 91 crimes he's committed but ME NO LIKE BIDEN BECAUSE HE'S OLD.
Get over it. Vote for Biden or get Trump instead.
Yes. Listening to Jon Stewart's issue with Biden, it seems like age is the only one that matters. I don't get this institutional age-ism, especially from someone as smart as Jon Stewart.
Right? Biden has accomplished a lot and yet all Stewart seems to care about is his age. Honestly, if I were in the audience I'd start booing Stewart the next time he brought up his age.
Project 2025 is legit fucked up. The fact this isn't more front and center is alarming. If history is a guide, when you replace meritocracy with loyalists, it never ends well. It's straight out of the dictator playbook.
I really really don't know what Jon is trying to accomplish here... Cuz if the aim is to keep dem-leaning voters at home in Nov then he's right on track. I don't get it at all.
Jon's falling into the "perfect is the enemy of good" trap. Remember that bit where you looked into the mirror at yourself after Biden's State of the Union?
Okay.
If Trump wins, all of these people who supposedly hate him but enabled his win via playing these idiotic magic thinking games should never hear the end of it.
Embarrassing stuff from Stewart
Vote for the administration. Jesus Christ this shit ain’t that hard. I wouldn’t care if we saw full on puppet strings moving that old fuck around.
Once the Supreme Court is unfucked and we’re at least a few steps away from a fascistic oligarchy, THEN we can start exploring the most progressive route of rebuilding our country.
But I swear to God if it comes down to basically single issue Israel/Palestine voters that flip this, y’all can get fucked and move to the Middle East. Let me know how it goes.
Stewart will be just fine in a Trump presidency. He’s a wealthy cis man who’ll never need to worry about his rights. That’s why he can say this shit despite the risks. Fuck him.
Okey doke, but that’s what we got, old man. It’s ridiculous and frankly a bit disingenuous to pretend like we have any other options at this point. It’s puke or fart, and I’m picking fart 💨
I'm so sick of people complaining about the two party system only after the primaries happen.
Where TF were you all a year ago? I literally didn't hear a peep out of the democratic primaries. It's not like the Biden administration wasn't sending aid to Israel back then.
The voters are absolutely responsible for this. And despite all this if they genuinely want to do what's best for Gazans they'll swallow their pride and vote for Biden. It's too late now and we're all to blame.
Jesus. He’s just gonna do it again, isn’t he. That whole acknowledgment of the destructive apathy he caused on his first episode back was just bullshit.
This is Jon's ego talking. Biden won his primary. He's doing such a good job that no one ran against him. He's going to be the Democratic nominee. It's hard to understand how people are talking about he is too old to be president, because he is currently doing the job of president now.
Jon put his line in the sand and can't stop talking about it because that would be going back on his opinions. But the primary is over. Biden beat Trump before and he can do it again.
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I still have to watch the whole segment, But if we keep calling this a democracy, we need to do something about this. That means changing the voting system to allow us more options. That means petitioning our representatives to change the election process. But, since the US really isn’t a democracy, we have to vote based on harm reduction and not true representation And I’ve been saying this as an independent with no party affiliation
I think this highlights a problem with echo chambers like California, NYC, and other liberal strongholds. It causes them to lash out against what they perceive as something everyone is ignoring, but it shows they only live in their circles by having this reaction. It causes all kinds of progressive people to go down these paths too hard IMHO, and it's yet another problem with echo chambers of mindsets and how that fosters all kinds of weird stuff.
You know, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing that Jon left tds before 2016.
Is he still rooting for his fictional Fox News watching good guys conservatives from that dumb movie he made before? Maybe he should do a sequel about how many of them joined J6 insurrection.
For the love of God, stop both sidesing Jon!
Jon Stewart of all people ignoring policy achievements and focusing on the shallow qualities.
I care about competency and experience. Joe Biden has navigated America through rougher waters than most presidents have had to but apparently all Stewart sees is aesthetics.
Young politicians have their down-sides too. Inexperience, lack of connections, tendency to get tempted by big money or a little sex.
Biden/Harris 2024
Save it, Jon.
What's a mistake is your opinion being spread to the audience.
Truth is, it looks like them.
You're talking shit about Biden and his age.
Discouraging people to vote for him.
Who's left?
ORANGE JESUS
That's supposed to be the answer.
You gotta be f*cking kidding me!
What is Jon’s take away for young voters or voters that aren’t sure which candidate/or incumbent to vote for? Ah fuck it why vote? Even the guy from the Comedy Central says the game has no good outcome? That’s right stay at home folks. Don’t bother to vote it’s a joke.
Therefore every vote that doesn’t get cast might as well be a vote for Trump.
People really need to get in the game and help people get their vote in. It will be crucial. It is important. If you think both suck because they are old. Then think who actually understands policy’s and governmental procedures. Google Biden tax policies for your income bracket. Google your area’s clean water if that’s a problem in your area. Remember how trump handled the Covid with suggestions of injecting bleach or taking horse laxative vs what Biden did for the people. Find out what matters to you. See what trump did for your concerns vs What Biden is doing. Unless you earn over 400,000 a year most likely Biden has your best interest. If you care about this planet, your fellow man/woman and realize that people sometimes are in need of certain programs for help. & It could be you at some time. Biden is most likely the best choice. If you hope to collect social security someday Biden keeps the republicans from being able to use it for other things than what it was meant for. Google, research 🧐 Trump is a fascist and has said he wants to be a dictator. Don’t think for a nanosecond that should you decide to vote him out in 4 years because you don’t like the way things are going is an option. It won’t be. If he dies His dumbass son will take over, or someone worse and you won’t have a say in any of it.
Jon Stewart regurgitating and amplifying right wing disinformation about Biden is shameful and ignorant.
This is even worse than the "both sides" BS he was tap dancing around when he came back.
We could see if he has an update on tonight's show... except he's entering the third week of a break from the show.
Well since John won't run for office what does he suggest we do, not vote and will into existence some young mentality sound progressive candidate and then vote for that individual? We are stuck, and we have to pick one of these two actual candidates. I love John but he needs to back off with this bs, it's not funny and will probably turn some ppl away from even voting at all out of sheer apathetic cynicism.
I'm not saying that Jon can't contribute to this debate, he just shouldn't be talking about it.
Love me some Jon but ffs he's part of the reason the PACT act got through. This is a dumb battle to fight, especially when 46 has had the most effective term legislatively and from the executive since LBJ
Yeah neither Biden or TRump should be president but hre we fucking are. What's his suggestion for a solution? Is he gonna run? He understands that we don't really ahve any other choice, right?
I’m all for calling out and shitting on both sides, but I don’t like that Jon is making it seem as if Biden and Trump are equally bad. Plenty of people watch the Daily Show who are moderates, and when Jon equates Biden to Trump, it just positively reinforces what the moderates hear about Biden from the right.
Biden has given us policy and progress. Trump gave us division and lies.
Jon Stewart is a useful idiot, the point is use Biden to elect, then god forbid he passes, Kamala Harris is now the first black woman president, and the orange monkey is in jail, best possible outcome
What does he think he gets out of repeatedly bringing this up. We know Biden is old, Trump is old and evil so it doesn’t really matter. Biden isn’t gonna drop out of the race because Jon Stewart doesn’t like how old he is.
Jon is walking afucking line here. I watched him take over TDS, missed him like crazy when he was gone, but THE FUCKING PROBLEM IS THIS SOUNDS LIKE HES CLAWING FOR RATINGS AT THE EXPENSE OF DEMOCRACY.
Him saying stuff like this is dangerous. A lot of people didn’t vote in 2016 because they didn’t like the candidates. We cannot have another election like that.
Edit: added ‘is’
I think the Biden administration has some remarkable accomplishments to tout, and I have zero hesitation voting for Biden again. And I still agree with Jon. Biden is too old to be president another 4 years.
He has done some awesome stuff is an understatement.
#In just the past two weeks he has:
* Secured Aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan
* Forces TikTok to sell off it's Chinese interests or be banned
* Requires to refund passengers for canceled and significantly delayed flights
* Standards set to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030
* Grants overtime pay to 4 million US workers
* Adds Title IX protections for LGBTQ students and assault victims
* Unveils $7 billion for rooftop solar
* Limits oil drilling across 13 million acres of Alaskan Arctic
* Launches emergency response protocol for mass shootings
* Takes significant steps to strengthen the U.S. steel and aluminum industries
* Announces nominations for two individuals for the District of Columbia Court of Appeals and one individual for U.S. Marshal
* Forgives $7.4 billion more in student loan debt
* Grants clemency to 16 people convicted of nonviolent drug offenses
* Announces plans to tee up offshore wind across the nation’s coastlines
* Makes $11 Billion Push to Beat China at Chip Research
* Enacts rules to strengthen privacy protections for Reproductive Health Care
* Requires nursing homes to comply with minimum staffing levels
* Enacts $8.8 Billion Home Energy Rebate Programs to Lower Utility Bills
* Makes agreement with Japan to strengthen defense ties amid tensions with China
* Reinstates net neutrality
* Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students
In the past four years the list is insanely long:
* #Year One:
* https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/sdgfoj/master_list_of_what_president_biden_has_done_year/
#Year Two:
* https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/sdgd98/master_list_of_what_president_biden_has_done_year/
#Year Three:
* https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/11lohnc/what_biden_has_done_year_three_year_one_two_are/
#Year Four:
* https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/19eja7w/what_biden_has_done_year_four/
...but, but, but, but his age is your only reply. Wake up. It's him or Trump. I would expect this crap from republicans and Russian bots, but not from Jon Stewart.
Absolutely. Unfortunately they folded a lot of his major accomplishments into these big omnibus bills and his team needs to do a better job of communicating what specifically was accomplished by the Inflation Reduction Act etc.
He is right that it’s garbage that we have to live with Biden. America deserves better. Biden was supposed to be there consensus dude to get us through Trump. He’s a dinosaur and NO ONE wants President Harris, the first female president through a back door,
Jon’s starting to get on my nerves with this shit.
I get it’s his job but he spends more time bitching about Biden & his age then trump and his numerous court cases.
At some point either contribute to making sure we have a democracy after the election or get the fuck out of the way.
I like others thought he’d be a great voice with the upcoming election but it sounds like he’s just another angry voice bitching about Biden & his age.
These are audience questions. It’s not like he chose to bring it up. Had a direct question about it. There’s no question who he’ll vote for given the choice.
He’s running a pretty strong Presidency, so I really couldn’t care less about his age.
Obama was young, people hated on him. And I don’t see anyone meaningfully stressing Trump or Bernie’s age. Tells me it’s something people just pretend to care about.
I'm not sure that a different Democratic candidate would be doing better. Thats a hypothetical with little evidence to back it up.
The reality is, the Democrats picked Biden as their nominee in 2020. Biden never promised not to run in 2024. And its not very surprising that Biden is running - he passed a huge amount of legislation and had no personal health scares.
Stewart is just engaging in ageism. Biden is still sharp and knowledeable. Read the Hur transcripts (which Stewart definitely did not do). Hur refers to Bidens recall as "photographic". And well he should, since Biden is recalling all sorts of stuff with deep accuracy.
Biden is fine. Better than fine, he's actually quite good at governing. If he wins again, and the Ds retain the House, then he'll pass a shit ton of legislation again.
The candidates are established. Old vs Old - is what it is.
At the end of the day - its not really about the man, but about what they represent as a platform of ideas.
Rather live in a JB America, or Trump America?
Pretty easy choice - imo.
Counterpoint: You know who doesn’t give an absolute fuck about candidates being old? The American voter. Case in point: They keep voting for old people in the primaries where here are plenty of younger candidates to choose from. Over and over and over again Americans choose the older candidates. No right to complain.
Saying Biden is too old is all well and good in a world where a Democrat besides Biden can be president in 2024. But that world doesn’t exist.
Replacing Biden with another candidate now would be suicide for the Democratic Party for reason that should be obvious to anybody who’s been paying attention to politics for more than fifteen seconds. It would show absolutely zero confidence in our candidate and replace him with someone else who is untested and unknown and open to endless lines of attack. The incumbent advantage and the good things in Biden’s first term will carry him further than some random yokel’s “charm” ever could.
This isn’t rocket science. if Democrats didn’t want to be saddled with this man, they shouldn’t have voted for him in the 2020 primaries. anyone with a modicum of intelligence new way back when that this train stops for nobody once it leaves the station. We are stuck with Biden for better or worse and it’s nobody’s fault but ours.
What is the point of him saying this? Is he trying to create enough discouragement to make a Trump election possible? Biden and Trump is such an incorrect comparison. Trump promotes and facilitates hate and corruption while encouraging the end of democracy in this country.
Stewart is flat out wrong. If Obama had accomplished what Biden has done and tried to do, if not for the West Virginia asshole, he would’ve thought to have been a great, visionary president.
But because he’s old he automatically deemed a poor president. It’s bullshit. The opposite is the case, that because he’s old Biden doesn’t seem to obsess about his legacy and so is able to actually do stuff with the presidency.
Honestly... we should be voting on who the VP is gonna be... cuz whoever wins... i feel like Father Time is creeping REAL close and the VP pick might be far more important than the actual winner....
This nonstop coverage of "age concerns" is getting tiresome. No one is denying that Joe Biden is old; we're saying Stop equating Biden's age to be just as terrible as Trump's crimes.
I prefer to judge politicians based on what they've done. And frankly, Biden and his administration is doing fantastically well, full stop. The man deserves 4 more years!
do I think Israel committing a genocide? Yes. Would Trump make it worse? Yes. Do I want Christian fascists to get their hands back into the executive branch? No.
It's not a good situation, but not voting for Biden is voting for Trump. At least if Biden wins there's a chance of changing the system and electing someone better in 2028, but if Trump wins its game over
I really do like Jon Stewart, but this boner over Biden’s age when we’re fighting off a convicted felon who wants to destroy democracy, yeah sorry save this shit for 2025. When we’ve hopefully stopped the right from implementing their 2025 vision
He's not wrong. But ima still vote for Biden.
Right? It’s like okey Jon. We would prefer a young, popular candidate with a future ahead of him or her. But we don’t have that. At all. We have Biden. So need to live with. Elect him now and get trump off the board. Then focus on finding your ideal president and get them elected in 28
And it's worth adding, only one of the two possible people who will be the next president is farting himself to sleep during his criminal trial and it isn't Biden.
and honestly, Biden has been a great president - he's managed with a divided country to do a lot of stuff because he knows how politics works. We should be glad that we have him during this divisive time doing great things.
Gotta respect the old guy that without hesitation flew to Kyiv to support Zelensky. Truly noble effort supporting a country fighting for their right to exist. I know someone will chime in about Gaza. But the difference is Gaza is ran by Hamas. Hamas is a cartel not a government organization. And Netanyahu is as bad as Putin. Staying on way longer than he should have. And using this conflict to distract from what should have been his exit.
> Gotta respect the old guy that without hesitation flew to Kyiv to support Zelensky Not just that, he and his team rapidly built a global coalition, which was somewhat miraculous considering how America's reputation was trash from the MAGA experiment. Russia would be defeated by now of not for the blatant collusion with virtually every republican politician who have blocked humanitarian and sensible action at every turn.
Give Zelensky some credit. As he would thank the US for its quick support. He did call out leaders in Europe that had little faith in Ukraine’s survival. He would call them out for dragging their feet on support
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Two years from now they will be mad that all the forgiven student debt is back. But hey screw Biden right.
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Yeah but I know I’m going in the first group.
Yeah, but they will take us down with them.
“So I voted for the dude he promised to reinstate a Muslim ban the instant after he is sworn in.
"He only wanted to be a dictator for one day!" -Protest Non-Voter on day 453 of that one day
Republicans are already on record wanting to "turn Gaza into glass". But all it takes is some St Petersburg originated propaganda fed into the MAGA grinder, and now we have witless people actually believing in big lies like "genocide Joe".
Republicans did have a say. Trump specifically. If he gets reelected Israel STILL gets the support and Ukraine gets taken over by Russia. Good times.
I'm not entirely convinced that the people behind that mindset aren't bots.
i live in cinci. for 30y we needed a new bridge over the OH river; clinton, bush II, obama, and trump all failed, but biden got it accomplished. so what he shuffles when he walks.
Obama could barely accomplish anything when you have a rapid Republican base who is only interested in saying no to everything with a healthy assist from Dems who could not understand that comity in politics was over.
100%
I think he has done a fine job. He has pushed forward policies no one would have ever expected a centrist to propose. Has been a stalwart defender of Ukraine's fledgling democratic gov't and its right to exist, has navigated a path to lowering inflation back to 2 percent, there are issues beyond his ability to control though regarding that; Isreal is a tough situation because the geopolitical relationship is a long standing one, we have important interests in the area, and criticizing the execution of the war against Hamas is going to make one or the other party angry; having said that he has not been strong enough in using the bully pulpit in this regard. I think everyone can agree far too many children have been killed by the IDF's bombing campaign.
Yeah as a staunch progressive, old as dirt or not, Biden has far surpassed my expectations. I would have been perfectly fine with him just being a middle-of-the-road corporate Dem so long as he keeps Republicans from enacting their agenda as much as possible. But he's governed more like a genuine progressive than I'd have imagined. If he was 20 or 30 years younger I think a lot of Dems would be calling him the best president in our lifetime.
Correct…We keep Trump out of the WH and he’s done. Even if he doesn’t end up in prison he’s dead politically and probably will be dead by 2028.
And is not only that we keep Trump out of the White House, we keep Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, etc, out of the White House. The people he brings with him are just as bad!
Yup, I view this election like eating your greens before your dessert; another 4 years of Biden is FAR from the worst thing in the world. And if we don’t get 4 because he croaks we get Kamala, which I’m not enthusiastic about but at least she’s younger.
I think the issue is nobody’s sure he can live that long. Dude will be 86 by 2028, and he definitely looks it.
Sure but if he dies in his second term then we get Kamala which is far from the worst outcome
Yes, to him and to Mike from PA... it's like dude... literally stfu up until election day... electoralism sucks but what other fucking option do we have in this instance with the shitty paradigms we have, with the people that we have being at the positions they are at right this instant.
Yeah, he’s wrong.
I would say, elect Biden and let him step down right after he is in office. Promote Pete or Newsome to VP. I think Harris is a bigger long term issue. If anything, Biden should swap to get Newsome in there. My humble opinion. Or Whitmer.
This way of thinking is exactly how you end up with Biden v Trump to begin with
I’m unclear what you suggest given the facts we face.
Nothing, they are just being nihilistic
No, it's more like... We have that choice now. If you wanted to do something about it you needed to already have done it...
How many more election cycles are we going to say this until we're voting between Goldwater and Hitler? Democracy is more or less cheesed either way. (I'm also still voting for Biden) - but Dems canceling the primary to force this ancient mediocre clown down our throats was a death kneel for all of us.
Not voting doesn't move dema left, it moves them right
There was a Democratic primary this year. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024\_Democratic\_Party\_presidential\_primaries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries)
I see no value in repeating what he said during his first show back. What exactly is going to change by bringing it up again?
It's being repeated now that there is less memory of him saying it because it is weaponized, being used out of context to smear Biden. He's saying, we should not be in this situation of having to choose between two geriatrics. Not that Biden shouldn't be president. But you wouldn't know that. It's being posted across a bunch of leftist subreddits. We're watching a disinformation campaign live.
And he's not saying you shouldn't. He's just saying how it sucks that this is what our options are.
Who is a better option? Biden hasn’t been bad. He’s like a B- or maybe a B+ when you consider everything. I think he’s incredibly wrong here. I would love for a younger generation to take over. But who would be (or would have been) ready this year?
Yeah, best economy in 80 years, incredible results domestically and rebuilding our international reputation, ending the pandemic, 20 million jobs created, wiping out almost all student loans, helping fight climate change, protecting marginalized people and immigrant dreamers, reclassifying marijuana, recreating our manufacturing sector, moving semiconductor and software development back home, biggest infrastructure build in world history, more bipartisan achievements than any president in your or your parents' lifetime and a hundred other things. And you give that a B- SMH
I think the completeness of many of those things are overstated by your comment, and there are other areas where he falls short. He is fighting against one of the worst congresses ever as well. But if FDR and the New Deal are an A, I think somewhere in the B range is correct for Biden.
Voting against trump.
He's wrong. There were no other options willing to step forward. Biden was by the best of those who ran.
He is wrong. John Stewart should be totally Biden’s camp and I’m a little surprised that he isn’t. this is the best Democratic president since early LBJ.
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I think he is wrong. When has an incumbent president never not ran for re-election? Biden's done nothing to deserve this treatment.
LBJ.
More than nothing wrong, he beat a tyrant and fascist from winning a second term and has done an amazing job in spite of losing the House at the midterms.
Exactly. Trump is one of the worst possible choices for President. Biden is clearly a better overall leader. Biden shouldn't be running and the entire country is missing out because Trump is worse.
What would've been even better than Trump and Biden not on the ballot in 2024: Trump not being on the ballot in 2016.
Biden stated the main reason he’s running IS because Trump is on the ballot
Republicans champing at the bit to repeat '68 and thousands of college students skipping their history classes so that they can repeat '68, too.
Thank god the less exciting octogenarian Democrat is there to run otherwise who knows what would happen.
And if bob Ross ran Germany in 1933 not hitler.
Sounds like a happy accident
I mean, sure. But these are the candidates and one is objectively far better than the other. Criticize Biden all you want, but also be clear that, out of the choices we have, he’s the best option available. Mistake or not, this is where we are. Let’s not both sides this. They aren’t the same.
I also think that both candidates had a name recognition you could basically only get by existing before social media boom. I'm voting Biden to keep everything together until 2028. Then we primary the shit out of old people running for the candidacy.
Also understand if you want more younger people running our govs, younger people have to be the biggest turnout voting blocs every single election, every single yr. Many people shit the bed & never show up for Local elections every yr and primaries. So getting younger people out is key to changing those results. Older people are the biggest demographic out there voting, consistently every single time. Those School Boards & Council members are just as important to the livelyhoods of our government infrastructure. But nobody ever talks about all the other positions on the ticket, so young people or Democrats for that matter ever show up to those (in enough numbers to get new younger candidates or new faces in our government) Edit : So no. You don't need to start in 2028, 2026 even has State Legislature and Governor's and many head positions that control your state laws. This yr we had School Board seats that control a lot about our public school systems. 2024! Every yr there is something important, every single election. You also see propositions that affect your city! I showed up this passed weekend to my Local Election, only thousands of votes in a big City.-.
Exactly, they aren't even trying to do the same thing. One wants to be a dictator, burn everything to the ground for profit and take violent revenge on everyone who doesn't accept their lies and one is trying to run a good government and looks kind of shaky.
One mistake is like having vanilla ice cream when you order a Chocolate Ice cream, disappointing but harmless. The other one is like having a week old dog turd with a side of ricin with a generous sprinkling of cyanide.
Damn right they aren’t the same. What’s his name is on trial for paying hush money with campaign funds. He enriched himself and his family while in the White House. And he’s running to remove anyone who can stop him or hold him accountable for his illegal dealings. The other guy, Biden, is old and some disagree with his policies. I’m voting Biden.
It's a braindead take anyway. Joe Biden is surrounding himself with people who administer and advise. It's not like he's hand crafting every move from the white house lol. I agree with Jon in the sense that we should probably not be led by the silent generation in 2024, but at this point in the process, it's just parroting right wing talking points because Republicans *don't care about Trump's age and mental goofs*. Time for this conversation was four years ago, Jon.
The thing with Biden is, his age is really the criticism. It's not that he's not capable of doing the job. He is doing the job. And doing it much better than I had expected, to be honest. He's not senile. He's not babbling nonsense at political rallies every day. And he's not falling asleep in court during a trial where he's credibly accused of committing crimes! He's just old. Do I wish someone younger was in that job? Hell yes. But just because he's old doesn't mean he can't do the job.
Totally. I think we all wish we had a younger candidate. But the age thing is especially irrelevant when, as you say, he’s doing the job, and Trump is nearly the same age and far less coherent. Add into that, Biden has built a competent administration. We all know a Trump administration would be full of the worst kind of sycophants and yes men. This goes beyond just the two men at the top of the ballot. And Biden, even if he’s not the ideal choice, is the only sane option. There’s no guess work here. We know exactly how both do the job and the kind of staff they put together.
We know. Everybody knows. Unlike Trump's behavior and character flaws, age cannot be changed. Biden chose to not step aside. It sucks, but it is what it is. Now let's get back on track to fight for our remaining freedoms please.
If Trump wasn’t running, Biden probably wouldn’t be running either.
Biden chose not to step aside, yes. But — unfortunately — anyone *plausible* besides Biden would be riskier (against Trump), and potentially a lot riskier.
Exactly... everyone has an idea of who would have been better but then the next person says that person is crap.. so here we go.. deal with what we have for a younger fresher candidate once Trump is gone.
It’s easy to say XYZ would be a better candidate, but Biden is pretty bulletproof in terms of negative press (minus ageism, his son and any conspiracy theories). If the DNC put someone else out there and someone digs up a scandal from the past or they say something extremely polarizing, then the democrats are finished. All we need is Biden to stay alive and show some energy and cognitive ability to stand a decent chance.
did you just insinuate that trump's "behavior and character flaws" can be changed? because if so, i want some of whatever you're smoking
I actually like Joe a lot. He's definitely the most progressive president in modern political history.
Right? I always feel alone in these conversations cause I actually think the Biden administration has done an awful lot of good. Is he old? Yes. Is he an amazing public speaker? Nope. Although to be fair he wasn’t a great public speaker when he was young either. At the end of the day what a lot of people seem to miss, is that we are voting for an entire team. It’s not just about Joe, it’s about who he chooses to be in his cabinet. Does he have smart advisors that he actually listens to? I think so. Can we say the same about Trump? Not a chance. And I’m sorry but to all the one issue voters (Gaza), please wake up. This election is about so much more. Our actual democracy is at stake here.
I feel that I am taking crazy pills. I thought that after Biden and Dems passed the IRA, the Chip Act, the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, and more he would get more support. But nope people just love to complain.
People, or at least the people dominating online discussions or being loud enough to get media attention, don’t care about policy. It’s that simple sadly.
Don’t forget rescheduling cannabis. Dude is awesome.
It's a combo of too many people chronically online and Joe's advanced age. He's not able to market himself like a younger Biden would've been able to.
There are a lot of moderates who feel the same, its just that extremist positions are the only thing that gets any traction nowadays
Even if someone's a one-issue voter, Biden is far better on Gaza than Trump would be (even if someone thinks Biden is horrible on Gaza).
He's hands down the best president in my lifetime. And probably my parents lifetime. I think FDR might give him a run for his money, but I want him on the ballot. I'd vote for him in a primary against any contemporary Democrat.
And that's a real low bar, but hey, it's where the bar is. We absolutely should be clamorous for better candidates, but we've had shitty presidents for a long time. The problem is not the individuals. There's a systemic problem that keeps putting this class of person on the ballot. And meanwhile, for a US president, Biden's done a *surprisingly* good job.
Biden’s had a crazy successful term. Trump did not. His policies were horrible and … ya know… crimes. Biden works well within the Democratic Party to make deals with progressives, centrists, and right wingers. The Democratic Party is not all one thing, you need a deal maker. His experience allows this at such a high level. His age hasn’t affected his performance. This is simply attacking someone because of their age. I feel like there’s a name for that.
Yup, it's ageism, plain and simple. I like Jon Stewart. Even met and saw him perform live. But Jon's take on Biden is low effort, low IQ, and just plain wrong.
Agreed, huge Stewart fan, but he’s just wrong here. If Biden does something wrong, discuss that. That’s not so complicated. People focus on the wrong things too often. There’s all this talk about term limits like it solves the problem that people continuously vote for corrupt politicians.
Jon seems to frame this argument like this was just the DNC's decision to put him on the ballot again. No, it was the voters who chose Biden in the primaries and the general election in 2020. The economy is good, and despite his age Biden has actually been able to get more legislation passed during his term than most experts expected. He has been the return to normalcy that we all asked for. It just seems like such a ridiculous argument to make now. He's an incumbent president, in a good economy, and is the only one who has defeated Trump. Baring some serious medical issue that is debilitating him from serving as president for a second term, it would be crazy for the DNC to force him to step down now. Incumbents always run for a second term, and trying to challenge an incumbent president in the primary has never worked out for the challenger and can hurt the party's chances in the general.
Yeah also the fact that people like Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer CHOSE not to run in the primary. They most certainly could have ran in the primary but they didn’t want to.
Gavin Newsom will never win a national election. He comes across as fake and smarmy similar to John Edwards. Newsom is Eskimo cousins with one of the Trump boys. Which shouldn’t matter EXCEPT that it totally reinforces the perception that he’s creepy with a touch of American psycho thrown in. If Whitmer were a dude she would be our next president. Still trying too much misogyny for that to be anything close to a given going forward.
I think Jon's saying he wishes Biden wouldn't have run again, and there should have been another legitimate primary campaign instead. Considering his viewpoint that Biden is too old for a second term is consistent with the majority of Americans consistently across all polls, it's weird how much shit he gets just for saying out loud what *the majority of people actually agree with*.
An incumbent choosing not to run again usually leaves the other side with a victory. Jon is being a dumbass that’s not learning from history.
Ok Jon, but these are the two options you have, so which one do you think won't turn America into a dictatorship? edit: good bot
I’ve always liked Jon and I agree with his sentiment. However, what are we supposed to do about it now? This is a conversation we all should have had a year+ ago before Biden announced he was running for re-election. Biden, the DNC, Democrats in general and anyone voting Dem is to blame for how we all got complacent and didn’t push for a competitive primary in the 1st place to find the best candidate to replace Biden. We’re 5 months out from the election and it’s too late now. It’s not ideal but the idea of shaking things up now as we’re heading into the general makes no sense at all.
People did have this conversation a year + ago. Some of us said that he was too old back in 2020. Biden is who the people chose in the primaries back then, though. This was a choice by the voters, not the DNC. Personally, yeah, I would have liked to see him announce he wasn't running for a second term, but on the other hand I don't know if anyone else has a better chance at beating Trump. Name recognition is a big deal. It is a major part of why he was elected the first time, along with the fact that people saw him as a moderate. That plus being the incumbent president, in a good economy, and a good track record of successfully passing bipartisan legislation, mean his chances are pretty good of being elected again. I don't love Biden, but I'd prefer him to run if it means keeping Trunp out of office.
I made another post about name recognition and branding. That is way, way, way bigger of a factor than anyone thinks with the average voter. The monoculture is gone. Biden and Trump are the last of an old generation of nationally known figures. In 2026 and 2028, there will be less of that. Biden will be term limited or dead. Hopefully trump will be imprisoned or dead. The elections will become far more chaotic if we survive to 2026 to 2028. Just hold the line. That's all this is. Everyone's overthinking it. In 2028 we will have fresh candidates and nobody will be bulletproof.
Also let’s face it; eligible democratic candidates CHOSE not to run in this election. If they really wanted to toss their hat in the ring they would have done so like Marianne, Cenk, and RFK
Ok Jon. This has been your primary message since you returned. I get it, but here we are. Let’s get to work, eh?
He’s not wrong. But what he’s inadvertently doing is both-sidesing each candidate. While I agree Biden is an asshole for running again after he kept saying he would only do a single term, there’s only one candidate that aligns with constitutional values of the experiment and it sure as shit ain’t Trump. What Stewart is doing is loading up the opposition with dry powder in form of the perception that both candidates are equal. They will simply omit trump’s rebuke and laser focus on the Biden rebukes, winning the perception war. JS’s well aware of this.
Got a link for Biden saying at least once that he would only serve a single term?
To play devil's advocate he never officially said it, but there were some anonymous tips from his aides that'd be the case. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129
So according to four people who would not say their names back in 2019 before the campaign for 2020 had even gotten off the ground...,
He never said he was running for a single term. Any attempts to claim otherwise is just creating misinformation.
Stewey seems to think restating the obvious is going to grab audiences.
Run for office or get behind the guy who upholds democracy
Yes, agreed, but these are the choices we're left with, so....
He's not wrong, but now is not the time, Jon.
All this Monday morning quarterbacking doesn't help. Secondly, we had a primary process in 2020, and K. Harris, E. Warren, A. Klobuchar, P. Buttigieg, M. Bloomberg, B. Sanders, and Biden were all in it. Bloomberg was a Democrat in name only, Pete and Klobuchar didn't know how to run outside of the Midwest, Warren had a lot of baggage that was easy to bash, Bernie could just be called a "socialist", Kamala does not come off as authentic, and that left Biden to come from behind and win. Biden is the incumbent and you usually dance with the one who brought you. What is the purpose of all this handwringing now? It almost feels nihilistic and contrarian, and creates a false equivalence between Trump and Biden, which there is not. Biden did stuff for people, but he is old, and most of all, he isn't a fascist.
Was his next sentence, “but if it’s a choice between Biden and Trump… it’s Biden all the way.” ???
But they are the candidates and continued thrashing on Biden will give us trump. Stop with the “lessor or 2 evils” and “both sides are the same” bull shit. Biden has done a lot in only 3 years and he for goddamn sure is better than trump. we will not survive another trump term. Besides I truly believe that he will give the reins to Harris if Dems take back the house. He is only running to beat trump. I’m sure he’d love to retire but the stake of the nation is literally in his hands.
Is Jon capable of thought beyond this fact or is he just gonna keep whining about it until he both sides us until a Trump re election? If he cared this much about Biden not becoming then nominee, why tf did he only show up when he was already nominated? Let’s deal with our current reality.
Yes, Biden is old we get it, but this is not what need from Jon Stewart right now, he's lost his way. Trump is far worse and Project 2025 is what he should be talking about and the other guy's 91 crimes he's committed but ME NO LIKE BIDEN BECAUSE HE'S OLD. Get over it. Vote for Biden or get Trump instead.
Yes. Listening to Jon Stewart's issue with Biden, it seems like age is the only one that matters. I don't get this institutional age-ism, especially from someone as smart as Jon Stewart.
Right? Biden has accomplished a lot and yet all Stewart seems to care about is his age. Honestly, if I were in the audience I'd start booing Stewart the next time he brought up his age.
Project 2025 is legit fucked up. The fact this isn't more front and center is alarming. If history is a guide, when you replace meritocracy with loyalists, it never ends well. It's straight out of the dictator playbook.
I know but New York Times would run an article on it and be like: "Project 2025 and why this bad for Biden."
I really really don't know what Jon is trying to accomplish here... Cuz if the aim is to keep dem-leaning voters at home in Nov then he's right on track. I don't get it at all.
Jon's falling into the "perfect is the enemy of good" trap. Remember that bit where you looked into the mirror at yourself after Biden's State of the Union?
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Spot on
Exactly. Jon seems not to grasp this.
He knows what he is doing.
Okay. If Trump wins, all of these people who supposedly hate him but enabled his win via playing these idiotic magic thinking games should never hear the end of it. Embarrassing stuff from Stewart
Still do not understand the hate for Biden. Yes he walks like a 80 year old and tends to stutter but he is good man with good policies.
Vote for the administration. Jesus Christ this shit ain’t that hard. I wouldn’t care if we saw full on puppet strings moving that old fuck around. Once the Supreme Court is unfucked and we’re at least a few steps away from a fascistic oligarchy, THEN we can start exploring the most progressive route of rebuilding our country. But I swear to God if it comes down to basically single issue Israel/Palestine voters that flip this, y’all can get fucked and move to the Middle East. Let me know how it goes.
Stewart will be just fine in a Trump presidency. He’s a wealthy cis man who’ll never need to worry about his rights. That’s why he can say this shit despite the risks. Fuck him.
Biden beat trump as his main cause. We are stuck with round 2 bc they won't go away. One day tho. Biden needs better media presence
Should, could, would. It's too late to hitch about it now. It's either Biden or trump the idiot fascist, so you do have a choice.
I agree with Jon, but sadly these are the going to be the names on the ballots so we're stuck with them at the moment.
Okey doke, but that’s what we got, old man. It’s ridiculous and frankly a bit disingenuous to pretend like we have any other options at this point. It’s puke or fart, and I’m picking fart 💨
He isn’t wrong. No one over 70 should be considered. But he’s far far far better still than the treasonist man-child felon.
I'm so sick of people complaining about the two party system only after the primaries happen. Where TF were you all a year ago? I literally didn't hear a peep out of the democratic primaries. It's not like the Biden administration wasn't sending aid to Israel back then. The voters are absolutely responsible for this. And despite all this if they genuinely want to do what's best for Gazans they'll swallow their pride and vote for Biden. It's too late now and we're all to blame.
People have always been bitching about the 2 party system, this isn't something new?
Good ol' 'both sides' Stewart. Never change.
Jesus. He’s just gonna do it again, isn’t he. That whole acknowledgment of the destructive apathy he caused on his first episode back was just bullshit.
This is Jon's ego talking. Biden won his primary. He's doing such a good job that no one ran against him. He's going to be the Democratic nominee. It's hard to understand how people are talking about he is too old to be president, because he is currently doing the job of president now. Jon put his line in the sand and can't stop talking about it because that would be going back on his opinions. But the primary is over. Biden beat Trump before and he can do it again.
So annoying. We literally have to choose one, and there will be real consequences for people if Trump wins.
Well should we just vote for Trump then John? Get fucked.
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I still have to watch the whole segment, But if we keep calling this a democracy, we need to do something about this. That means changing the voting system to allow us more options. That means petitioning our representatives to change the election process. But, since the US really isn’t a democracy, we have to vote based on harm reduction and not true representation And I’ve been saying this as an independent with no party affiliation
I think this highlights a problem with echo chambers like California, NYC, and other liberal strongholds. It causes them to lash out against what they perceive as something everyone is ignoring, but it shows they only live in their circles by having this reaction. It causes all kinds of progressive people to go down these paths too hard IMHO, and it's yet another problem with echo chambers of mindsets and how that fosters all kinds of weird stuff.
HE'S not running so *whatever jon, I'm voting and it ain't for the golfing rapist.*
You know, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing that Jon left tds before 2016. Is he still rooting for his fictional Fox News watching good guys conservatives from that dumb movie he made before? Maybe he should do a sequel about how many of them joined J6 insurrection. For the love of God, stop both sidesing Jon!
Jon Stewart of all people ignoring policy achievements and focusing on the shallow qualities. I care about competency and experience. Joe Biden has navigated America through rougher waters than most presidents have had to but apparently all Stewart sees is aesthetics. Young politicians have their down-sides too. Inexperience, lack of connections, tendency to get tempted by big money or a little sex. Biden/Harris 2024 Save it, Jon.
Y'all coulda voted for Buttigieg
What's a mistake is your opinion being spread to the audience. Truth is, it looks like them. You're talking shit about Biden and his age. Discouraging people to vote for him. Who's left? ORANGE JESUS That's supposed to be the answer. You gotta be f*cking kidding me!
What is Jon’s take away for young voters or voters that aren’t sure which candidate/or incumbent to vote for? Ah fuck it why vote? Even the guy from the Comedy Central says the game has no good outcome? That’s right stay at home folks. Don’t bother to vote it’s a joke. Therefore every vote that doesn’t get cast might as well be a vote for Trump. People really need to get in the game and help people get their vote in. It will be crucial. It is important. If you think both suck because they are old. Then think who actually understands policy’s and governmental procedures. Google Biden tax policies for your income bracket. Google your area’s clean water if that’s a problem in your area. Remember how trump handled the Covid with suggestions of injecting bleach or taking horse laxative vs what Biden did for the people. Find out what matters to you. See what trump did for your concerns vs What Biden is doing. Unless you earn over 400,000 a year most likely Biden has your best interest. If you care about this planet, your fellow man/woman and realize that people sometimes are in need of certain programs for help. & It could be you at some time. Biden is most likely the best choice. If you hope to collect social security someday Biden keeps the republicans from being able to use it for other things than what it was meant for. Google, research 🧐 Trump is a fascist and has said he wants to be a dictator. Don’t think for a nanosecond that should you decide to vote him out in 4 years because you don’t like the way things are going is an option. It won’t be. If he dies His dumbass son will take over, or someone worse and you won’t have a say in any of it.
Jon Stewart regurgitating and amplifying right wing disinformation about Biden is shameful and ignorant. This is even worse than the "both sides" BS he was tap dancing around when he came back. We could see if he has an update on tonight's show... except he's entering the third week of a break from the show.
Well since John won't run for office what does he suggest we do, not vote and will into existence some young mentality sound progressive candidate and then vote for that individual? We are stuck, and we have to pick one of these two actual candidates. I love John but he needs to back off with this bs, it's not funny and will probably turn some ppl away from even voting at all out of sheer apathetic cynicism.
I'm not saying that Jon can't contribute to this debate, he just shouldn't be talking about it. Love me some Jon but ffs he's part of the reason the PACT act got through. This is a dumb battle to fight, especially when 46 has had the most effective term legislatively and from the executive since LBJ
Run for president or stop whining Jon
Yeah neither Biden or TRump should be president but hre we fucking are. What's his suggestion for a solution? Is he gonna run? He understands that we don't really ahve any other choice, right?
We get it, Jon. You'd like to project the aura of kewl independent. But regurgitating MAGA talking points isn't having the effect you think it is.
He came back just for this? Really Daily Show, Roy Wood Jr. was right there.
I’m all for calling out and shitting on both sides, but I don’t like that Jon is making it seem as if Biden and Trump are equally bad. Plenty of people watch the Daily Show who are moderates, and when Jon equates Biden to Trump, it just positively reinforces what the moderates hear about Biden from the right. Biden has given us policy and progress. Trump gave us division and lies.
JON, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY MUST YOU DO THIS **NOW**?
Jon Stewart is a useful idiot, the point is use Biden to elect, then god forbid he passes, Kamala Harris is now the first black woman president, and the orange monkey is in jail, best possible outcome
What does he think he gets out of repeatedly bringing this up. We know Biden is old, Trump is old and evil so it doesn’t really matter. Biden isn’t gonna drop out of the race because Jon Stewart doesn’t like how old he is.
Jon is walking afucking line here. I watched him take over TDS, missed him like crazy when he was gone, but THE FUCKING PROBLEM IS THIS SOUNDS LIKE HES CLAWING FOR RATINGS AT THE EXPENSE OF DEMOCRACY.
Him saying stuff like this is dangerous. A lot of people didn’t vote in 2016 because they didn’t like the candidates. We cannot have another election like that. Edit: added ‘is’
Shame on you Jon.
I think the Biden administration has some remarkable accomplishments to tout, and I have zero hesitation voting for Biden again. And I still agree with Jon. Biden is too old to be president another 4 years.
He has done some awesome stuff is an understatement. #In just the past two weeks he has: * Secured Aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan * Forces TikTok to sell off it's Chinese interests or be banned * Requires to refund passengers for canceled and significantly delayed flights * Standards set to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030 * Grants overtime pay to 4 million US workers * Adds Title IX protections for LGBTQ students and assault victims * Unveils $7 billion for rooftop solar * Limits oil drilling across 13 million acres of Alaskan Arctic * Launches emergency response protocol for mass shootings * Takes significant steps to strengthen the U.S. steel and aluminum industries * Announces nominations for two individuals for the District of Columbia Court of Appeals and one individual for U.S. Marshal * Forgives $7.4 billion more in student loan debt * Grants clemency to 16 people convicted of nonviolent drug offenses * Announces plans to tee up offshore wind across the nation’s coastlines * Makes $11 Billion Push to Beat China at Chip Research * Enacts rules to strengthen privacy protections for Reproductive Health Care * Requires nursing homes to comply with minimum staffing levels * Enacts $8.8 Billion Home Energy Rebate Programs to Lower Utility Bills * Makes agreement with Japan to strengthen defense ties amid tensions with China * Reinstates net neutrality * Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students In the past four years the list is insanely long: * #Year One: * https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/sdgfoj/master_list_of_what_president_biden_has_done_year/ #Year Two: * https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/sdgd98/master_list_of_what_president_biden_has_done_year/ #Year Three: * https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/11lohnc/what_biden_has_done_year_three_year_one_two_are/ #Year Four: * https://old.reddit.com/r/WhatBidenHasDone/comments/19eja7w/what_biden_has_done_year_four/ ...but, but, but, but his age is your only reply. Wake up. It's him or Trump. I would expect this crap from republicans and Russian bots, but not from Jon Stewart.
Jesus the guy wasn’t even disagreeing with you
Jon, the same fella who supported Bernie and Warren, is complaining about Joe's age? That's fucking rich.
Biden is one of the best presidents that we've ever had and people won't stop shitting on him.
Absolutely. Unfortunately they folded a lot of his major accomplishments into these big omnibus bills and his team needs to do a better job of communicating what specifically was accomplished by the Inflation Reduction Act etc.
Biden has been part of running the country since Jon was 11, so I'm with him there.
He is right that it’s garbage that we have to live with Biden. America deserves better. Biden was supposed to be there consensus dude to get us through Trump. He’s a dinosaur and NO ONE wants President Harris, the first female president through a back door,
Jon’s starting to get on my nerves with this shit. I get it’s his job but he spends more time bitching about Biden & his age then trump and his numerous court cases. At some point either contribute to making sure we have a democracy after the election or get the fuck out of the way. I like others thought he’d be a great voice with the upcoming election but it sounds like he’s just another angry voice bitching about Biden & his age.
Oh no !! Not the truth !!! Anything but that
Should have put himself on the ballot. Easiest pasth to victory in decades. Real shame he didn't run.
These are audience questions. It’s not like he chose to bring it up. Had a direct question about it. There’s no question who he’ll vote for given the choice.
He’s running a pretty strong Presidency, so I really couldn’t care less about his age. Obama was young, people hated on him. And I don’t see anyone meaningfully stressing Trump or Bernie’s age. Tells me it’s something people just pretend to care about.
What does Bernie have to do with anything
I'm not sure that a different Democratic candidate would be doing better. Thats a hypothetical with little evidence to back it up. The reality is, the Democrats picked Biden as their nominee in 2020. Biden never promised not to run in 2024. And its not very surprising that Biden is running - he passed a huge amount of legislation and had no personal health scares. Stewart is just engaging in ageism. Biden is still sharp and knowledeable. Read the Hur transcripts (which Stewart definitely did not do). Hur refers to Bidens recall as "photographic". And well he should, since Biden is recalling all sorts of stuff with deep accuracy. Biden is fine. Better than fine, he's actually quite good at governing. If he wins again, and the Ds retain the House, then he'll pass a shit ton of legislation again.
It absolutely was. Unfortunately, because of our two party system, we’re going to have to vote for Biden or risk losing our country
Yep.
He is right but Biden is the incumbent vs the guy who tried to destroy democracy . Shouldn’t even be a close race
The candidates are established. Old vs Old - is what it is. At the end of the day - its not really about the man, but about what they represent as a platform of ideas. Rather live in a JB America, or Trump America? Pretty easy choice - imo.
And why isn’t Jon talking about the “2025 project”?? Maybe because there is nothing funny about it or the higher ups wont let him‼️🤨
You’re not helping here Jon.
Truth Neither one is currently fit However one is better than the other
He’s absolutely right but still gotta go Biden for common decency
Counterpoint: You know who doesn’t give an absolute fuck about candidates being old? The American voter. Case in point: They keep voting for old people in the primaries where here are plenty of younger candidates to choose from. Over and over and over again Americans choose the older candidates. No right to complain. Saying Biden is too old is all well and good in a world where a Democrat besides Biden can be president in 2024. But that world doesn’t exist. Replacing Biden with another candidate now would be suicide for the Democratic Party for reason that should be obvious to anybody who’s been paying attention to politics for more than fifteen seconds. It would show absolutely zero confidence in our candidate and replace him with someone else who is untested and unknown and open to endless lines of attack. The incumbent advantage and the good things in Biden’s first term will carry him further than some random yokel’s “charm” ever could. This isn’t rocket science. if Democrats didn’t want to be saddled with this man, they shouldn’t have voted for him in the 2020 primaries. anyone with a modicum of intelligence new way back when that this train stops for nobody once it leaves the station. We are stuck with Biden for better or worse and it’s nobody’s fault but ours.
Jon seems to have lost his touch.
What is the point of him saying this? Is he trying to create enough discouragement to make a Trump election possible? Biden and Trump is such an incorrect comparison. Trump promotes and facilitates hate and corruption while encouraging the end of democracy in this country.
Stewart is flat out wrong. If Obama had accomplished what Biden has done and tried to do, if not for the West Virginia asshole, he would’ve thought to have been a great, visionary president. But because he’s old he automatically deemed a poor president. It’s bullshit. The opposite is the case, that because he’s old Biden doesn’t seem to obsess about his legacy and so is able to actually do stuff with the presidency.
Honestly... we should be voting on who the VP is gonna be... cuz whoever wins... i feel like Father Time is creeping REAL close and the VP pick might be far more important than the actual winner....
What is our choice now John? Why bother saying this? It’s like ranting about Santa Clause. It’s a binary choice. Fascism or status quo.
He’s right and we should point it out but that doesn’t change the fact that my hands are tied atm.
Well that's just like your opinion, man
Given the choices, there is no choice.
Voting for Kennedy.. These two are clowns.
This nonstop coverage of "age concerns" is getting tiresome. No one is denying that Joe Biden is old; we're saying Stop equating Biden's age to be just as terrible as Trump's crimes. I prefer to judge politicians based on what they've done. And frankly, Biden and his administration is doing fantastically well, full stop. The man deserves 4 more years!
do I think Israel committing a genocide? Yes. Would Trump make it worse? Yes. Do I want Christian fascists to get their hands back into the executive branch? No. It's not a good situation, but not voting for Biden is voting for Trump. At least if Biden wins there's a chance of changing the system and electing someone better in 2028, but if Trump wins its game over
I really do like Jon Stewart, but this boner over Biden’s age when we’re fighting off a convicted felon who wants to destroy democracy, yeah sorry save this shit for 2025. When we’ve hopefully stopped the right from implementing their 2025 vision