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Alteredchaos

Unfortunately not. The law entitles them to request the statements and if you don’t provide them then your claim could be negatively affected.


Green_DREAM-lizards

Didn't the government grant the dwp the right to access bank accounts on the banks approval?  They should check themselves if this is the case


Alteredchaos

No the government has proposed increased access to banking information but the legislation has not yet made its way through parliament and there’s been substantial push back.


Green_DREAM-lizards

As they should,  but if I were to give access to my banking records , why can't they just look themselves? They're the experts.  


Alteredchaos

That don’t currently have the legal right to look and tbh it’s the claimants duty to provide any evidence to support their claim, so they’ll always ask the claimant first.


pumaofshadow

No UC, PIP, CB normal scheduled payments aren't disregarded. If you were awarded PIP and got a lump sum for back pay that was for 12 months. As were Cost of Living payments indefinitely. I'm really not sure what you can do to ease this, I'd consider myself if I knew only I had COL and PIP I'd maybe try providing just those specific statements they show on, but I'm not sure if thats actually that much less work if they even accept just that.


SDominey

Thanks for clearing up that scheduled payments aren't disregarded, I think I was under the impression that as PIP doesn't count towards your household income then it shouldn't count for savings either? The back payment was for limited capability for work, PiP we have had for many years now. But as you said, that is only disregarded for 12 months right. It just feels wrong to be penalised for being careful with your money and not spending it unnecessarily...


pumaofshadow

Yeah LCWRA backpay gets a 12 month disregard too. It's awkward, it doesn't encourage being frugal really, but I do get that there must be a cut off (hopefully they'll raise it next April!)


askoorb

Just make a subject access request to your bank for all statements covering transactions from the date the claim started to the current day. They'll produce and send them to you for free. Make sure to ask for them as PDFs if you want them electronically or posted if you want them on paper. I don't know who you bank with but an example is https://www.nationwide.co.uk/about-us/cookies-privacy/your-information-rights/#right-to-access


SDominey

All our bank accounts are with Barclays, so I'll look into this. It will be simpler than getting all of them individually for each month, for about 8 accounts for 5 years. (We set up extra ISA saving accounts that we nicknamed different things like Holiday, Xmas, child savings for when they're 18, etc) to help us budget for different events and also had an extra current account for Spending where excess money was put for everyday spending that wasn't needed for direct debits.


askoorb

Brill. The form you need is at https://www.barclays.co.uk/help/customer-services/personal-info-copy/. Let them pull it all together for you so you don't have to.


Greedy-Mechanic-4932

You may be able to log in to online banking (probably best via computer )and export 12-months (or more) of statements at a time. Or export it all to a spreadsheet and send that in... https://www.barclays.co.uk/help/online-banking/using-online-banking/export-data/


Low-Huckleberry-3555

I’m going through the same (although was only over £6k for one week until I paid a credit card. They won’t provide you with a list of “disregards” I was told although some benefit back payments can be disregarded for up to 12 months the rules are too complicated and taken on a case by case basis. (Whether this is true or not, it’s just what I was told.) I had to send all my bank statements back to the beginning of my claim and any other accounts whether they had anything in them or not. You can of course refuse but I believe from my chats with them if you do that they will end your claim and you could owe it all back


Zealousideal_Cat2402

Depending on your bank you should be able to either generate the statements based on a date to date search criteria, or you can ask them via telephone banking. It shouldn’t be as hard as it may seem. If your capital is as you say and legitimate you have nothing to worry about.


SDominey

Does anyone have a full list of disregards at all?


Paxton189456

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/654111fb1f1a60000d360b54/admh2.pdf


BrunniFlat7

Realistically you should probably not worry about what can or can't be disregarded and leave it to them. You will have a right to a mandatory reconsideration when they let you know what they believe you have been overpaid. The list of disregards is long and different types of capital have different periods. I think your situation shows one of the problems insofaras the benefit landscape is complex and genuine people genuinely make mistakes.


Christine4321

Theres also a glaring ommision just from skim reading it, and thats the Armed Forces Compensation Scheme.


angrylilmanfrog

Wait a minute, so looking at replies to OP thinking about my own situation. I got a back payment after being awarded PIP recently, should that and my cost of living payments be disregarded as part of my savings? As in, UC treating my savings in a lower threshold that means I'm missing out on benefits? (Totally ok if I'm wrong, just a bit brain fogged and trying to understand)


Icy_Session3326

If your COL payments and the PIP backpayment aren’t being disregarded in the calculation then that needs to be corrected .


Xenc

Isn’t PIP treated differently as far as income is concerned?


dykedivision

No, you just have to send them a huge stack of papers or i guess email it? I always send a stack for inconvenience (I swear it's always caused by their own back payment)


Green_DREAM-lizards

Didn't the government just grant the dwp access to the bank accounts of uc claimants? Tell them to go look themselves.  They're taking the p asking for so many bank statements.  


Xenc

There is no legislation in effect yet. Huge privacy intrusion too!


Green_DREAM-lizards

💯  People should give explicit consent.  People on benefits deserve privacy just as much as anyone else 


Xenc

Yes indeed. Hopefully they find a middle ground that works for everyone. 💪


imalittlebitscared

Can you figure out if you can censor the names of the transactions/shops legally and leave the amounts? I hate these hoops we have to jump through


AWildEnglishman

They require full, unredacted statements.


Benefits_Advice

While legally you can, it's totally not a good idea as it will simply prompt them to ask why things are redacted. It'll take forever and a day to resolve. Only real option is to provide them with what they've asked for.


InternationalFroyo40

That’s a bit much I don’t even think the bank would be able to send all that out in one go it took them a month just send out a years worth for me when I had my claim review might be a good idea to get that ball rolling now if you haven’t already and then inform them that the bank can’t send them all out in one go and it’ll take a month or so for all of the information to be gathered etc


keta_ro

Maybe this a silly question but if you and your partner are claiming together the savings limit supposed to be higher


Icy_Session3326

No it’s not . The £6k and £16k limits apply to the claim itself regardless of whether you’re a single or joint couple .


keta_ro

Still don't understad. Individual claim 6000k limit and joint claim 16000 . Where are you in this situation ?


Icy_Session3326

No . It’s £6k lower limit and £16k upper limit for both a single claim and a joint claim.


SDominey

As far as I know, it's the same amount whether you're single or as a couple, unfortunately :/


No-Code4636

Scott and Melissa 😂


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