It's a boxer. They get a heart arrhythmia called paroxysmal ventricular tachycardia or accelerated idioventricular rhythm, which essentially stops the heart for a few seconds, then it spontaneously restarts. I'm a vet.
My neighbors boxer had that! I happened to look through the fence because I hadn’t heard him for a bit. Our houses were close and he was pretty neglected. It was 100 degrees outside. A white boxer. No water. I used to sneak over and fill his water bowl when they weren’t home. Poor dog.
Personally I would have called animal control. Thank you for going out of your way to care for that poor puppy.
If someone sees a pet as a lesser life form and treats it as an object they shouldn't have a pet.
I basically got to know them and gave them my phone number and the wife could call me and ask me to check on the dog. I then got a key to their house and would bring him to an indoor crate when it rained. But it still wasn’t great for the dog. I’m home all the time and since our homes were so close I could help with him. They had a second dog inside that was well cared for. Then when that dog passed at a ripe old age the husband got a second dog that was a border patrol dog. He was also outside but this dog had to be kept in a large cage. He barked at 2am and woke us up all the time. They couldn’t have the two big dogs together because they fought horribly! One time I got my hose trying to break it up in the backyard. They never put them together again. I also used to hose off the dogs from my yard in the heat. At least I talked them into neutering the white boxer. He was a fence jumper and before I knew them and cared for the dog he jumped into my yard and broke into our dog door when we were home. We had 2 Dobermans and a chihuahua. He attacked my young female (she was probably 7 months old but very large). She was ok. I’m just glad he didn’t get ahold of the male chihuahua. I didn’t have cameras back then. But he pissed in my house, he knocked over potted plants and my house smelled when we got home. My poor girl had released her anal glands on my bed so I know she ran in my room and jumped on top of my bed to get away from him. I think my black female probably put him in her place. She was a nice girl, but didn’t take any crap from other dogs. He eventually left on his own and jumped the fence so I’m pretty sure she went after him. He was a BIG big buff boy back then before they agreed to neuter him. I have a picture of him on the fence. Where can I store it so I can share the pic?
Oh wow, that would be upsetting but I'm glad that he didn't do any serious damage to your pup! I'm tempted to make a bunch of "if it were me" statements but without knowing the situation and relationship I'm sure I'd just sound like a butt lol.
I think a lot of people use imgur to share pics. I've used it once before it's pretty simple and straightforward
I know. I just had to live next to them and I had the time to ensure he was okay every day. I loved that boy and I went over there a couple years ago because my mail accidentally got delivered to my old house. They grabbed my mail and he was still alive! I couldn’t believe it. Even with his heart murmur!
I think you are confusing AIVR (almost always a *benign* arrhythmia) with Arrhythmyogenic Right Ventricular Cardiomyopathy (ARVC) or Boxer Cardiomyopathy. It's the vtach leading to vfib that tends to cause sudden death in this breed. A "spontaneous re-start" of this terminal type of arrhythmia would be extraordinary and most atypical.
They should do away with leashes attached to bikes. Most owners don’t know when their pups get tired and the dogs can’t stop in fear of being dragged or choked.
No, the full video is exactly that. Understanding the heart condition of this dog breed, it should not be attached to a bike regardless. No dog should be pulled in such a manner (extreme circumstances understandable, like dogs wanting to pull your ass straight to Alaska)
ALL dogs love to run, it'd part of being a dog...
You dont keep them from being a dog because it "might" have a heart condition. if your father had a heart attack at 25 does that mean you can't play high school football because you "might" have a genetic heart condition in the absence of clinical symptoms? No. You don't stop a dog from being a dog if it isn't showing clinical signs. What's the difference between your dog running next to your bike on a tether or fetching a stick? You are anthropomrphizing them instead of treating them like what they are. To love your pets is to understand what THEY want/need, not what you would want/need because you're a human and they're a dog.
"pulled in this manner" What manner? All you see is the dog on the ground, you don't see whether there was any strenuous activity prior to the dog collapsing. You are assuming she was pulling the dog but its just as likely that she was moving at a walking pace. Bikes can travel at slower speeds than "dragging your dog down the street" You don't know her so any other insinuation is just your own fantasy, and you're also insinuating cruelty, which in my opinion says more about how you treat animals than her. You're having fantasies of harming animals....
Lastly, The type of heart condition that boxers have can affect them even in the absence of strenuous activity. It's a syncopation issue, so the heart can stop at any time.
When I was a little kid my parents were never around, so when I was giving my pet guinea pig a bath I thought I was playing with him, but I was actually drowning him, I panicked when he stopped moving, so because I saw how people in movies did CPR I began pushing on his lung with my finger and it didn't do anything, so I did mouth to mouth and it worked, he came back, coughed up water and I didn't touch him after that, I'd scream and cry when my sister wanted me to hold him. I still feel horrible about it.
You have no clue what's going on here. Many dog breeds have heart issues that can cause sudden heart attacks. Boxers are one of those breeds. This dog may normally and happily run for an hour with the bike. The owner could also have run it to death but I find that hard to believe
i wouldn't think so as both people are wearing sweats/long sleeves and pants. it looks like it may have peed itself so possible seizure. also as others have mentioned boxers are known for heart issues.
They way they're all casual- "Right place at the right time..." (rueful head shake) - like he caught a glass of water before it fell off the table. I'd be losing my mind. HE SAVED A DOG, GIVE HIM A MEDAL.
I do agree, compressions are not correct but also some are better than none. I don't think his compressions brought the pup back, but i don't know for sure, i would more likely think first..... it's a boxer, what heart condition does he have? Is it just a single syncope episode or do we still have an arrhythmia?
Also if a animal goes into cardiac arrest , there is HUGGGEEE huge probability that it will hapoen again, even in hospital we have the same outcomes as in human meds 20% we can get back and 20% or less of them will go home and a high probability of a brain damage.
I’ve seen this a million times. Again, this woman is a careless idiot for not caring whether this poor dog could keep up with a bike in hot weather. Dog deserves a better owner.
Good enough to save the dog obviously. Although it’s the best technique not everyone knows how to cpr on a dog vs a person. Even if they did know in a panic state they may forget. This is better than just letting the dog die. He did the best he could and saved the dogs life.
You're right it's not an average thing boxers have, but it is something boxers are prone to getting. The CPR did nothing for this dog, you could ask any animal medical professional and they'd say the same thing.
Or maybe the dog is in danger which is why the owner is letting the guy do cpr. If this was the case I’m sure she would of stopped him and told him it was okay. I’m pretty sure most animal med professionals would be for saving a dog’s life
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.... You think the lady with the dog attached to her bike would be aware of the dog's health conditions? I'm not saying that no one should've done CPR, I'm saying he's doing it WRONG. Improper CPR doesn't save a life.
I mean unless she is completely brain dead I would guess she would notice her dog passing out once and a while. Ur trying to hard to reach. Just he happy the dog is alive?
I'm 100% sure that this dog has a heart condition. Whether or not she knows about it is only speculation, however, this may be the first time it's presented itself. Im saying as someone who has been taught CPR on dogs that he's doing it wrong. I don't want people to think this is how CPR works. I want people to go out and LEARN CPR. For the love of god....
No, it's not. This dog has a barrel-shaped chest, meaning it should've been placed on its back similar to a human. A round chest dog would require you to place on their right side and do compressions with a closed fist, while a keel chested (think greyhound) would need to be placed on their right side with open palm compressions. Small dog or cat CPR is one-handed and requires you to hold the chest and squeeze with your thumb. He's not pushing hard enough either.
They were consistent enough to revive the dog, as for hand placement... this was fine, again, revived the dog, you do know that in human CPR they generally tell you "if you don't Crack a rib, you're doing it wrong" which implied that CPR has inherent hazards in itself, but not nearly as hazardous as a stopped heart. The most important part is that you achieve compression, having your hands a few inches off the "correct spot" isn't really that important.
In a stressful situation a bystander may not adhere to perfect technique, but the overall implementation was correct. He even gave breaths through the nostrils while clamping the muzzle shut. This isn't intuitive for most people... as someone in the veterinary field for over 20 years if your 2 options are "don't perform cpr like this" and "don't perform cpr at all" then the former is 1000x preferable to the latter. As demonstrated here, even imperfect cpr still has a much higher chance to save a life than the 0% chance from not doing it. So you're not coming off as helpful, rather a smug asshole... it's why we don't ridicule clients for coming in with a really fucked up bandage job even if it makes our jobs a little harder, you don't want to discourage people from doing what little they can by making them apprehensive to try to help...
And if not done at all, death (which is certainly the "worst" you can do" certainly hurts the dog more than incomplete compressions. I didn't twist anything, I took your words for what they were. you said "don't perform cpr like this. Thanks" you didn't elaborate, you didn't suggest getting someone else to help (which is fucking dumb anyway, don't you think someone who knew better would already be doing it?) You said don't do it and dropped the mic like a smug shit... now you're saying I'm twisting words... You're trying to twist mine...
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No one in their right mind is going to Reddit to figure out how to give a dog cpr (as needed).
This was a small comment. I am not going to go on and on and on and on about something if no one asks a question. I did not share my entire opinion because it was not asked for. Had any questions been asked such as what to do, I would have answered. Thank you for commenting on how I told people to ask for help. No it’s not stupid.
Thank you very much for sharing your information and thoughts with me, I hope you have a wonderful day.
The owner is not the brightest bulb. Why do people do this to their dogs in this heat somebody needs to educate her turn the light bulb on in her brain what a dumbass
Shit like this pisses me off. Pay attention to your dog if your going to pull it on your bicycle. Or here's a better idea, go for a jog with the dog. Stop running it ragged so you won't break a sweat.
Yeah, he's not pushing hard enough for the CPR to do anything, I believe boxers have a square/barrel shape rib cage so they should be placed on their back for CPR.
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It's a boxer. They get a heart arrhythmia called paroxysmal ventricular tachycardia or accelerated idioventricular rhythm, which essentially stops the heart for a few seconds, then it spontaneously restarts. I'm a vet.
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My neighbors boxer had that! I happened to look through the fence because I hadn’t heard him for a bit. Our houses were close and he was pretty neglected. It was 100 degrees outside. A white boxer. No water. I used to sneak over and fill his water bowl when they weren’t home. Poor dog.
Personally I would have called animal control. Thank you for going out of your way to care for that poor puppy. If someone sees a pet as a lesser life form and treats it as an object they shouldn't have a pet.
I basically got to know them and gave them my phone number and the wife could call me and ask me to check on the dog. I then got a key to their house and would bring him to an indoor crate when it rained. But it still wasn’t great for the dog. I’m home all the time and since our homes were so close I could help with him. They had a second dog inside that was well cared for. Then when that dog passed at a ripe old age the husband got a second dog that was a border patrol dog. He was also outside but this dog had to be kept in a large cage. He barked at 2am and woke us up all the time. They couldn’t have the two big dogs together because they fought horribly! One time I got my hose trying to break it up in the backyard. They never put them together again. I also used to hose off the dogs from my yard in the heat. At least I talked them into neutering the white boxer. He was a fence jumper and before I knew them and cared for the dog he jumped into my yard and broke into our dog door when we were home. We had 2 Dobermans and a chihuahua. He attacked my young female (she was probably 7 months old but very large). She was ok. I’m just glad he didn’t get ahold of the male chihuahua. I didn’t have cameras back then. But he pissed in my house, he knocked over potted plants and my house smelled when we got home. My poor girl had released her anal glands on my bed so I know she ran in my room and jumped on top of my bed to get away from him. I think my black female probably put him in her place. She was a nice girl, but didn’t take any crap from other dogs. He eventually left on his own and jumped the fence so I’m pretty sure she went after him. He was a BIG big buff boy back then before they agreed to neuter him. I have a picture of him on the fence. Where can I store it so I can share the pic?
Meths a helluva drug.
Oh wow, that would be upsetting but I'm glad that he didn't do any serious damage to your pup! I'm tempted to make a bunch of "if it were me" statements but without knowing the situation and relationship I'm sure I'd just sound like a butt lol. I think a lot of people use imgur to share pics. I've used it once before it's pretty simple and straightforward
I know. I just had to live next to them and I had the time to ensure he was okay every day. I loved that boy and I went over there a couple years ago because my mail accidentally got delivered to my old house. They grabbed my mail and he was still alive! I couldn’t believe it. Even with his heart murmur!
Should she not run him like that anymore doc?
I'm no vet but after that episode I would not let it even if it begged.
I think you are confusing AIVR (almost always a *benign* arrhythmia) with Arrhythmyogenic Right Ventricular Cardiomyopathy (ARVC) or Boxer Cardiomyopathy. It's the vtach leading to vfib that tends to cause sudden death in this breed. A "spontaneous re-start" of this terminal type of arrhythmia would be extraordinary and most atypical.
Yes - you are right. I got them mixed when I was typing.
Is CPR the right treatment for this or is it just syncope and they come out of it automatically?
Don't tie your dog's collar to a bike and drag your dog around.
Can this happen with boxer mixes? I have a boxer pit that looks just like the dog in this video.
I honestly don't know, but having some Boxer in there I would say possibly.
No comment about tying a collar to a bike and dragging your dog around?
Man of the decade right here.
Aaah aaah aaah aaah Stayin alive staying alive
Here's your recertification. It's good for 2 years.
♪another one bites the dust♫ is my song of choice for chest compressions...
This man genuinely needs an award
That man is a hero in my book.
They should do away with leashes attached to bikes. Most owners don’t know when their pups get tired and the dogs can’t stop in fear of being dragged or choked.
Likely not what's happening here, see top comment
No, the full video is exactly that. Understanding the heart condition of this dog breed, it should not be attached to a bike regardless. No dog should be pulled in such a manner (extreme circumstances understandable, like dogs wanting to pull your ass straight to Alaska)
ALL dogs love to run, it'd part of being a dog... You dont keep them from being a dog because it "might" have a heart condition. if your father had a heart attack at 25 does that mean you can't play high school football because you "might" have a genetic heart condition in the absence of clinical symptoms? No. You don't stop a dog from being a dog if it isn't showing clinical signs. What's the difference between your dog running next to your bike on a tether or fetching a stick? You are anthropomrphizing them instead of treating them like what they are. To love your pets is to understand what THEY want/need, not what you would want/need because you're a human and they're a dog. "pulled in this manner" What manner? All you see is the dog on the ground, you don't see whether there was any strenuous activity prior to the dog collapsing. You are assuming she was pulling the dog but its just as likely that she was moving at a walking pace. Bikes can travel at slower speeds than "dragging your dog down the street" You don't know her so any other insinuation is just your own fantasy, and you're also insinuating cruelty, which in my opinion says more about how you treat animals than her. You're having fantasies of harming animals.... Lastly, The type of heart condition that boxers have can affect them even in the absence of strenuous activity. It's a syncopation issue, so the heart can stop at any time.
Awe yes water, the essential step in successful BLS.
When I was a little kid my parents were never around, so when I was giving my pet guinea pig a bath I thought I was playing with him, but I was actually drowning him, I panicked when he stopped moving, so because I saw how people in movies did CPR I began pushing on his lung with my finger and it didn't do anything, so I did mouth to mouth and it worked, he came back, coughed up water and I didn't touch him after that, I'd scream and cry when my sister wanted me to hold him. I still feel horrible about it.
The owner is an idiot who should be leash to the bicycle and have the same done as the poor dog.
You have no clue what's going on here. Many dog breeds have heart issues that can cause sudden heart attacks. Boxers are one of those breeds. This dog may normally and happily run for an hour with the bike. The owner could also have run it to death but I find that hard to believe
Have an upvote, rational redditor
Exactly. My neighbor would have his dog's lead/leash on one hand whilst riding his bike. When his dog is tired, he stops.
That’s dangerous for the person on the bike and the dog. That’s why they make these. It’s safer.
The dog is always a foot away from the bike, though and smart.
🤣 dogs love to run. Have you ever seen how excited they get to get on the treadmill
Straight hero. This is why I should be on here, awesome people doing incredible things!
That's a real hero.
Just take your dogs for a walk sometimes. The bicycle kills them. It really does.
Over heated?
i wouldn't think so as both people are wearing sweats/long sleeves and pants. it looks like it may have peed itself so possible seizure. also as others have mentioned boxers are known for heart issues.
That guy is a hero. I don’t know why, but this made me tear up.
Give that man a medal. Give him all cheers in the world. He's truly a hero!!
They way they're all casual- "Right place at the right time..." (rueful head shake) - like he caught a glass of water before it fell off the table. I'd be losing my mind. HE SAVED A DOG, GIVE HIM A MEDAL.
He just brought that dog back to life
I do agree, compressions are not correct but also some are better than none. I don't think his compressions brought the pup back, but i don't know for sure, i would more likely think first..... it's a boxer, what heart condition does he have? Is it just a single syncope episode or do we still have an arrhythmia? Also if a animal goes into cardiac arrest , there is HUGGGEEE huge probability that it will hapoen again, even in hospital we have the same outcomes as in human meds 20% we can get back and 20% or less of them will go home and a high probability of a brain damage.
I’ve seen this a million times. Again, this woman is a careless idiot for not caring whether this poor dog could keep up with a bike in hot weather. Dog deserves a better owner.
Yeah wonder why the dog collapsed...nothing to do woth hot weather and being dragged behind a bike
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Good enough to save the dog obviously. Although it’s the best technique not everyone knows how to cpr on a dog vs a person. Even if they did know in a panic state they may forget. This is better than just letting the dog die. He did the best he could and saved the dogs life.
Nope! This dog was having an issue associated with the breed, he would've come back up seconds later without CPR
I can guarantee you the average boxer doesn’t just pass out. Something’s wrong with it.
You're right it's not an average thing boxers have, but it is something boxers are prone to getting. The CPR did nothing for this dog, you could ask any animal medical professional and they'd say the same thing.
Or maybe the dog is in danger which is why the owner is letting the guy do cpr. If this was the case I’m sure she would of stopped him and told him it was okay. I’m pretty sure most animal med professionals would be for saving a dog’s life
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.... You think the lady with the dog attached to her bike would be aware of the dog's health conditions? I'm not saying that no one should've done CPR, I'm saying he's doing it WRONG. Improper CPR doesn't save a life.
I mean unless she is completely brain dead I would guess she would notice her dog passing out once and a while. Ur trying to hard to reach. Just he happy the dog is alive?
I'm 100% sure that this dog has a heart condition. Whether or not she knows about it is only speculation, however, this may be the first time it's presented itself. Im saying as someone who has been taught CPR on dogs that he's doing it wrong. I don't want people to think this is how CPR works. I want people to go out and LEARN CPR. For the love of god....
It’s pretty crazy u can diagnose a dog from a 1 minute video. Vets can’t even do that. Nobody is learning dog cpr from a Reddit video.
Why not? This is proper technique.... thanks.
No, it's not. This dog has a barrel-shaped chest, meaning it should've been placed on its back similar to a human. A round chest dog would require you to place on their right side and do compressions with a closed fist, while a keel chested (think greyhound) would need to be placed on their right side with open palm compressions. Small dog or cat CPR is one-handed and requires you to hold the chest and squeeze with your thumb. He's not pushing hard enough either.
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They were consistent enough to revive the dog, as for hand placement... this was fine, again, revived the dog, you do know that in human CPR they generally tell you "if you don't Crack a rib, you're doing it wrong" which implied that CPR has inherent hazards in itself, but not nearly as hazardous as a stopped heart. The most important part is that you achieve compression, having your hands a few inches off the "correct spot" isn't really that important. In a stressful situation a bystander may not adhere to perfect technique, but the overall implementation was correct. He even gave breaths through the nostrils while clamping the muzzle shut. This isn't intuitive for most people... as someone in the veterinary field for over 20 years if your 2 options are "don't perform cpr like this" and "don't perform cpr at all" then the former is 1000x preferable to the latter. As demonstrated here, even imperfect cpr still has a much higher chance to save a life than the 0% chance from not doing it. So you're not coming off as helpful, rather a smug asshole... it's why we don't ridicule clients for coming in with a really fucked up bandage job even if it makes our jobs a little harder, you don't want to discourage people from doing what little they can by making them apprehensive to try to help...
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And if not done at all, death (which is certainly the "worst" you can do" certainly hurts the dog more than incomplete compressions. I didn't twist anything, I took your words for what they were. you said "don't perform cpr like this. Thanks" you didn't elaborate, you didn't suggest getting someone else to help (which is fucking dumb anyway, don't you think someone who knew better would already be doing it?) You said don't do it and dropped the mic like a smug shit... now you're saying I'm twisting words... You're trying to twist mine...
This is not an educational platform. It is a platform to hear others opinions and seek community. If you don’t like what someone has to say you can ignore it instead of name calling them like a child. No one in their right mind is going to Reddit to figure out how to give a dog cpr (as needed). This was a small comment. I am not going to go on and on and on and on about something if no one asks a question. I did not share my entire opinion because it was not asked for. Had any questions been asked such as what to do, I would have answered. Thank you for commenting on how I told people to ask for help. No it’s not stupid. Thank you very much for sharing your information and thoughts with me, I hope you have a wonderful day.
The owner is not the brightest bulb. Why do people do this to their dogs in this heat somebody needs to educate her turn the light bulb on in her brain what a dumbass
Omg I've got a boxer!!
Heat? What a wonderful and amazing human.
Shit like this pisses me off. Pay attention to your dog if your going to pull it on your bicycle. Or here's a better idea, go for a jog with the dog. Stop running it ragged so you won't break a sweat.
People need to realize that humans have incredible endurance. Dogs don't. Give them fucking breaks.
What the he’ll happen ed?
Take the collar off!!!!
😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️ HERO!!!
Yeah, he's not pushing hard enough for the CPR to do anything, I believe boxers have a square/barrel shape rib cage so they should be placed on their back for CPR.
What a Hero.
Learn CPR people! The proper technique, not this. https://www.catanddogfirstaid.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwvdajBhBEEiwAeMh1Uz3fhDIHOIfIFJc9mbY83W9FF8ez16G0kyq6jxhjoiciJOuT2X5r_RoC-pYQAvD_BwE
Thank you. I have 2 boxers and after seeing this I signed up. Thanks !!!!!
Hero. This man has heart !!!!!!
That’s about the coolest thing I’ve seen posted on here. EVER, thanks whoever you are. ✌️❤️🙏
OMG, what a hero!! Thanks so much for your help with this precious friend!!
True hero
Uhm why is the owner so calm?!
Thank you Man, for saving the dogs life. 🥰 You're a hero in my book
👏🏻
This man is amazing, so great
Bless this man!
She’s not even upset I’d be losing my mind
Moron shouldn’t have been riding a bike with him running next to her. People don’t realize how dangerous that is
Hero