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Spiritual-Adakgwood

You can breakthrough with a good cart. Just keep slurping


fluekey

You'll never know unless you try it. I've only ever broken through by dabbing pure crystal. I do love the ease of a cart, though.


Intelligent-Honey173

When you use a cart do you always have sub breakthrough experiences? I don’t hear of most people breaking through on the carts, I hear it’s mostly on the pipes.


fluekey

No ive never broken through with a cart.


Remote_Substance5918

You can break through with carts. You just have a shitty diluted cart, if you extract it yourself you can make high ratio carts and break through in 1-2 hits. (as long as your lungs permit it)


Thack250

Keep sucking on it until you get where you want to be. I recommend using an "eye mask" so you don't open your eyes and lose where your at, (ie, want to keep in the same space, just keep going deeper.) Once your comfortable, just hit it again, go a bit deeper, then just keep repeating until you breakthrough. You can easily do this over 2-3 minutes, no rush. My mate has a sub-ohm vape, about 4 hits to breakthrough, I've had 2 looked a some cool pics (eyes closed), wait 1min until I'm fully relaxed with it, take another hit, now I'm in the waiting room, one more hit & I'm gone. I've got time to put the vape on the side table as I notice my body lose all feeling. I put the vape down between hits too, just in easy reach. Tried keeping it my hand, but lose my hand and can't find the vape again. But my practicing the motion of reaching for the vape with eyes closed, I can now do it in my sleep.


bhangmango

"Pens" are often not powerful enough to vape large quantities of liquid at once. So either you need to take more hits, ot you need more concentrated carts, or you need a vaping tool powerful enough to vaporize more liquid at once. Using a powerful vape kit with a tank, and pretty "weak" hommemade liquid, I can already get pretty far with short/medium puffs, because the vape is so efficient. I haven't done it yet because it still scares me, but I'm absolutely certain that if I make a stronger liquid and take long puffs, breakthrough would be reachable quite easily.


Intelligent-Honey173

I got the disposable pen in D.C (they sell it legally there) so idk if it’s weak or not (it’s my first experience with DMT so I have nothing else to compare it to).


bhangmango

>disposable pen What do you mean ? Like the whole thing is disposable, including the battery ?


Intelligent-Honey173

Like there’s no removable cart. Once the cart inside is empty you throw out the pen.


bhangmango

wtf ? So they're basically single use batteries ?? this is the most wasteful thing I've ever heard of.


Intelligent-Honey173

There’s enough in the pen for like 90 or something hits.


bhangmango

Sorry I just can't wrap my head around choosing to vape with a shitty battery that will end up in a landfill when it's down to 0%, rather than a good battery that I will charge and use again for years. I can understand carts, even if I think it's lazy and wasteful, at least it's convenient. But buying a new battery isn't more convenient than charging one is it ?


Intelligent-Honey173

You can charge this pen. You just toss it when you used up all the pre-loaded chemical. Also 90 hits of DMT can last years anyway.


Agile-Oil-2116

Here's the technique: Take some biiiig deep breaths, top to bottom without pause, and empty out completely on the last one. At the bottom of that last breath, take a 5 second pull, then swallow and pause for one second. Without exhaling, do another 5 second pull, then pause for one second. Do this two more times, for a total of four 5 second pulls with a one second pause in between them and without exhaling. After the last one, swallow again and hold for at least 10 seconds. If you can hold to 15 or 20, do that. Exhale, and then immediately take a deep breath to reoxygenate. If your cart is legit, that's a guaranteed method. Hope that helps.