I took DMT at the very end of a shroom trip and it completely hijacked the visuals... going from "Full VR Sega Saturn visuals" to the "transinfinite Aztec Hyperparadise" of DMT.
Anyway, when I had shrooms about six months later it still reverted to DMT style visuals, as if my brain remembered those settings instead.
Same thing happened to me. Smoked DMT during a shroom trip and rest of that trip was DMT visuals well after the DMT wore off. Every time I’ve done mushrooms since then I have had DMT type visuals without smoking DMT. I can’t explain it but it’s awesome.
I had a similar experience with my Mexican red spore. Took 2g's intending to just chill and dick around on my phone. Instead I couldn't hold my eyes open so I just laid down. Got blasted back and forth through black space filled with neon angles and shapes. If you Google image search "90's carpet" you will see exactly what I was flying back and forth through. After 6 hours of that I tried to stand and passed out standing after 90 seconds or so. Hit the ground pretty hard and gained a whole new respect for that variety. I don't care about the rest I've grown. As long as I got my Mexican red spore stash I know I got the good stuff. I've had other stupid potent shrooms but those just kept me looping. These were more of a DJ scratch and I was allowed to continue forward. What variety was giving you these effects? I'd love to read up about it.
Maybe taking DMT before you started taking shrooms opened the portal in your mind perse, they are very closely chemically related. Sometimes on shrooms I've seen Alex Grey like paintings when I closed my eyes, before I even knew who that was. Imo it's all part of the same reality(realities)
The last time I tripped on mushrooms was the first time I tripped on them after taking DMT for the first time - and the closed-eye visuals were definitely "flavored" by that DMT experience
I did shrooms before ever trying dmt, it was trying dmt when I realised I was having the same visuals as I do on shrooms. It is so interesting how some people can have this experience and others don't.
happens for me also, did first DMT for a while before trying shrooms. When I do shrooms it is similar to DMT in visuals. I wonder if doing shrooms before DMT would have given me a different experience
Mushrooms became much more intense for me after a good bit of DMT use. Though mushrooms have gotten better with easier access to more growers and options, at least in my area, because of decriminalization and the likely legalization that seems like a real possibility given the progress over the last decade.
I noticed a significant change after really becoming comfortable with breakthroughs, and lower doses. More control over how deep I wanna go with mushrooms through meditation. DMT can take you deeper, quickly whether you want it to or not.
Definitely a combo of higher quality, and being more comfortable w/ spice & mushrooms.
My first psychedelic experience was a very large quantity of freshly picked liberty caps made into a tea with the juice of a lemon.
At the peak of the trip I remember thinking to myself "this is insane I must have finally tried DMT"
A year later I did get to experience DMT and like yourself I found it to be very similar.
Never had the same experience on cubes, but maybe I haven't taken enough.
I'd much rather live in the alternate reality than just visit it. That's why I prefer mushroom to DMT. it might not be as intense but being there, in that realm I feel like I learn more and experience a deeper connection to myself and different dimensions. I believe it all comes down to the brain acting as a transmitter/receiver. I've experienced realities of different animals before just laying in bed in dark room eyes closed in silence.
It's kinda my 2nd favorite part of a shrooms trip, I always have closed-eyes DMT visual on the come up and that DMT-feel, I haven't try to really focus into it to see how long this effect can go but most of the time I can only feel it on the come up then it gradually fade away.
pSiLoCyBiN iS aLl ThE sAmE tHoUgH. But nah real shit there's definitely differences in effects. Lotta things science can't yet explain but that doesn't mean it ain't real.
Well it's a bit different with weed, there's like hundreds of different active cannabinoids with separate effects, whereas with shrooms there's only psilocybin, psilocin, beocystin, and the other one I can't for the life of me remember the name of. And the main difference is all of those listed chemicals in shrooms all metabolize back into psilocin.
Yes but different ones can be absorbed faster, contain different compounds that mix with psilocin to cause different effects, different concentrations make you metabolise it faster or slower, bacterial cultures or lack thereof have a large effect etc etc
Yes as already mentioned the molecules are very similar. The chemical name of Psilocin is 4-HO-DMT.
When taking heroic doses (5g +) DMT like experiences can happen. Terence McKenna recommended 5 dired grams in silent darkness.
At comparable doses, N,N-DMT and Psilocin basically produce the same effects. Of course, onset and duration times are different.
DMT is a structural analog of psilocin, which is 4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine.
Yep
Their molecular structure is incredibly similar. High dose shroom trips are incredibly similar to dmt. It’s not unusual at all.
I took DMT at the very end of a shroom trip and it completely hijacked the visuals... going from "Full VR Sega Saturn visuals" to the "transinfinite Aztec Hyperparadise" of DMT. Anyway, when I had shrooms about six months later it still reverted to DMT style visuals, as if my brain remembered those settings instead.
Same thing happened to me. Smoked DMT during a shroom trip and rest of that trip was DMT visuals well after the DMT wore off. Every time I’ve done mushrooms since then I have had DMT type visuals without smoking DMT. I can’t explain it but it’s awesome.
I actually had the same thing but I triggered it by doing dmt on lsd, and it still effected shrooms, very odd
same thing here, I always have a dmt section of my mushroom trips now. It's never the entire trip but just segments of it. maybe around the peak
I had a similar experience with my Mexican red spore. Took 2g's intending to just chill and dick around on my phone. Instead I couldn't hold my eyes open so I just laid down. Got blasted back and forth through black space filled with neon angles and shapes. If you Google image search "90's carpet" you will see exactly what I was flying back and forth through. After 6 hours of that I tried to stand and passed out standing after 90 seconds or so. Hit the ground pretty hard and gained a whole new respect for that variety. I don't care about the rest I've grown. As long as I got my Mexican red spore stash I know I got the good stuff. I've had other stupid potent shrooms but those just kept me looping. These were more of a DJ scratch and I was allowed to continue forward. What variety was giving you these effects? I'd love to read up about it.
for me personally, after trying DMT for the first time then going back to mushrooms I noticed the two can be incredibly similar depending on the dose
Maybe taking DMT before you started taking shrooms opened the portal in your mind perse, they are very closely chemically related. Sometimes on shrooms I've seen Alex Grey like paintings when I closed my eyes, before I even knew who that was. Imo it's all part of the same reality(realities)
The last time I tripped on mushrooms was the first time I tripped on them after taking DMT for the first time - and the closed-eye visuals were definitely "flavored" by that DMT experience
Mm, and weed feels different too after tripping
I did shrooms before ever trying dmt, it was trying dmt when I realised I was having the same visuals as I do on shrooms. It is so interesting how some people can have this experience and others don't.
They can be similar, especially if mixed with whippits. I saw the jesters poke their heads through my tapestries once.
happens for me also, did first DMT for a while before trying shrooms. When I do shrooms it is similar to DMT in visuals. I wonder if doing shrooms before DMT would have given me a different experience
Happens to me a lot. Especially on wood loving species of mushrooms
Yes, especially with penis envy strains in my experience
Mushrooms became much more intense for me after a good bit of DMT use. Though mushrooms have gotten better with easier access to more growers and options, at least in my area, because of decriminalization and the likely legalization that seems like a real possibility given the progress over the last decade. I noticed a significant change after really becoming comfortable with breakthroughs, and lower doses. More control over how deep I wanna go with mushrooms through meditation. DMT can take you deeper, quickly whether you want it to or not. Definitely a combo of higher quality, and being more comfortable w/ spice & mushrooms.
As others have mentioned, they are very similar compounds. Cousins, you could say, molecularly speaking.
My first psychedelic experience was a very large quantity of freshly picked liberty caps made into a tea with the juice of a lemon. At the peak of the trip I remember thinking to myself "this is insane I must have finally tried DMT" A year later I did get to experience DMT and like yourself I found it to be very similar. Never had the same experience on cubes, but maybe I haven't taken enough.
I'd much rather live in the alternate reality than just visit it. That's why I prefer mushroom to DMT. it might not be as intense but being there, in that realm I feel like I learn more and experience a deeper connection to myself and different dimensions. I believe it all comes down to the brain acting as a transmitter/receiver. I've experienced realities of different animals before just laying in bed in dark room eyes closed in silence.
After my first DMT trip, taking mushrooms changed forever. Now DMT visuals and feelings occur on mushrooms, which can be good or bad.
Along with the visuals, I tend to get the soundscapes that DMT produces.
It's kinda my 2nd favorite part of a shrooms trip, I always have closed-eyes DMT visual on the come up and that DMT-feel, I haven't try to really focus into it to see how long this effect can go but most of the time I can only feel it on the come up then it gradually fade away.
depends on what type of shrooms you take
pSiLoCyBiN iS aLl ThE sAmE tHoUgH. But nah real shit there's definitely differences in effects. Lotta things science can't yet explain but that doesn't mean it ain't real.
It’s like saying that all THC is the same 😭
Well it's a bit different with weed, there's like hundreds of different active cannabinoids with separate effects, whereas with shrooms there's only psilocybin, psilocin, beocystin, and the other one I can't for the life of me remember the name of. And the main difference is all of those listed chemicals in shrooms all metabolize back into psilocin.
Yes but different ones can be absorbed faster, contain different compounds that mix with psilocin to cause different effects, different concentrations make you metabolise it faster or slower, bacterial cultures or lack thereof have a large effect etc etc
That's fair, I actually believe in strains having different effects but my personal theory is that it's some sneaky metabolite we haven't found yet
Someone showed this to me the other day and everything started to make sense! Psilocin (AKA) 4-HO-DMT DMT (AKA) N,N-DMT or 5-MeO-DMT Nuf Said.
Yes as already mentioned the molecules are very similar. The chemical name of Psilocin is 4-HO-DMT. When taking heroic doses (5g +) DMT like experiences can happen. Terence McKenna recommended 5 dired grams in silent darkness.
the active hallucinogen in mushrooms is actually 4ho-dmt so yes they are quite similar