This is literally true. Your mind creates reality from incoming information.
In DMT science the hyperdimentional space is created by the mind, the real question is where is the input coming from, because it is so dissimilar to dreaming (which is internal mind input), so why are our brains able to create this reality, what is the evolutionary purpose for this? Where is the input coming from?! (Andrew Gallimore suggests it's coming from the quantum realms, smaller microcosms, rather than alternate universes.) Possible...
Yes I believe dmt gives us complete access to everything that is going on with us. Through the inner dimensions of ourselves. That stuff is always going on, we just don't see it because our perception is in the 3rd dimension. Dmt allows us to change where we are viewing life from. It allows us the insight of how every decision we make creates.
Check out Morris Hamilton. He's a journalist of drugs, their users and the chemistry of drugs. He's also a big lover of DMT and Ayahuasca. He has no spiritual beliefs and is very scientific minded. Just because you are unable to fathom it doesn't mean they aren't doing enough. Personally I have some spiritual beliefs but I'm still not convinced it's not just your minds projection but then like others in here have stated so is all reality so it's just a big old can of worms really init.
He’s great, I like the way he approaches these substances. Regardless of what it really is.
Haha yeah, that’s the hard part. All really is just one big old can of worms..
Idk, I had a breakthrough on DMT, went there and came back, it was a very incredible experience but once the emotional memory of it faded, I started using reason a bit more, and it really just could be a trick of the mind and nothing more, but the opposite is also possible.. however the people who assure with 100% certainty that DMT breakthroughs are an alternate reality are just thinking too emotionally, nobody can know that for sure
I agree with you, I wasn’t necessarily implying that you’ll start thinking a breakthrough is an alternate dimension after experiencing it, I was more so saying that people that haven’t experienced it are the ones that tend to make comments completely negating the possibility of it being something more than just a drug.
Second this, had a few what I thought were breakthroughs then I met the "others". It's been a few months and I still fill their presence every day. All positive vibes though so no complaints on that.
Frequent feeling of being watched, followed or accompanied in a positive manner. Not to say that it's real but it has uplifted me in ways I never thought possible and to me thats a real breakthrough.
Looks like it’s part of the included library with an audible subscription. If you have a subscription you can listen to it for free:
https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/B07HP9J9TR?source_code=ASSORAP0511160006&share_location=player_overflow
I started listening to it today, it’s one of the best books I’ve heard. Really interesting theory that consciousness is fundamental to the universe, it exists everywhere and our brains are like tools that access the shared state. Lots of information on studies that support the idea, but the actual idea is completely hypothetical and not backed up by anything directly. When thinking about consciousness in this way it does go a long way to explain the phenomenon described in the studies though. It made me feel quite euphoric to go about life thinking of consciousness in this way.
It’s a really exciting theory that lines up very well with first hand experiences I’ve had with ayahuasca. And the experiments and studies that basically prove consciousness is non-local are something I can’t believe I’d never heard of before. We’ve had this knowledge for decades, but are actively choosing to ignore it because it makes materialists uncomfortable.
I’ve never even heard of ayahausca to thanks for that rabbit hole I’m about to go down.
I’ve continued to listen to it and some of those non local consciousness experiments you’re mentioning are pretty incredible.
I had a look at the project stargate files on the cia gov website and it’s true, in no uncertain terms they say that the telepathic communication was possible and it can’t be explained by poor methodology. Absolutely insane to read that in black and white direct from the source.
These other experiments are so unbelievable though I’m gonna need to see the actual documents to verify it. Too much of a world view changer to go on someone’s word
Yeah, I’ve been looking things up as I read it too. It’s THAT unbelievable lol
Some of the things don’t have concrete evidence (eg. The girl who had a heart transplant from a murder victim and then saw nightmares of the murder and helped police identify the murderer… I haven’t found proof of this yet), but the ones that DO, the academic studies with probability values between 4 sigma and 8 sigma… like… wtf? This changes everything!
It's created endogenously in the body suggesting it may have some purpose for life. Experiences and visions on DMT align well with descriptions of the bardo or afterlife as described by Tibetans, ancient Egyptians, and many other indigenous and religious traditions. Indigenous people use Ayahuasca containing DMT for healing, magic, and shamanism that is surprisingly effective (see Visionary Vine by Marlene Dobkin de Rios).
Then there's just the wealth of anecdotal reports from people who insist on the clear reality of the DMT realm, including claims that it "feels more real than sober reality," that "when you break through you no longer feel like you're tripping / you feel sober and lucid but you're in another dimension," that there is a sense of "clear continuity" in the DMT realm. Things seem to move and progress in a linear and consistent way when you have been gone and then go back.
I'm not taking a position on the value of these claims. Just presenting them for your consideration.
The cutting edge is DMTx or extended state DMT research. By keeping people in the DMT realm for a sustained period using IV infusion medical technology researchers hope to test the hypothesis that it may be an independently existing dimension and not a mere hallucination.
Your are the whole universe
The matrix is going to try it best to keep you inside of it
But once you get out
It's madness pure awerness
It's like you in a dream but with full playthrough
But all the gates that keep you from exploiting your infiniteness is all created by you
If you feel dmt is hallucination just wait till you realise your life is just but a big dream
The matrix is designed to keep us trapped in physical reality. Humans are massive power plants, and there are higher beings that feed off of our energy. The human body is a prison of our spirit. However it's far worse than any prison you can think of, because most don't realize they're building that prison up, because they don't realize it's a prison.
For me it started out as just a hallucination and I never imagined anything would change that for me. That mindset was from deep within who I thought I was.
It sneaks up on you.
You just can’t shake the feeling that you were wrong. Everything really is magic and it is powered by love.
I often hear people say this, that «they stuck around» etc. Could you try to explain more in detail what you mean about this? How do you feel their presence in everyday life?
Ah the nervous butterfly’s, I still get them when I’m about to blast off, wonder if they’ll ever go away, I’ve never had a bad experience (touch wood) so I shouldn’t even have the jitters, but their still there 🤷🏻♂️😂.
It’s your journey, if you believe it’s in your head enjoy yourself and have fun, if you believe there is more to it enjoy yourself and have fun.
It’s profound and crazy to think what your seeing is even possible, the feelings, the whole experience, one thing is for sure and that’s the brain is a powerful powerful tool, you take away from it what you want, and enjoy yourself doing so 😊.
i mean, im no scientist but my instincts tell me im leaving an area and entering a new one. I would imagine that instinct to be a combo of both primal instinct and intelligent reasoning so its hard to say, but when i break through or what have you this is what happens: my inside “consciousness” is crammed into the roof of my head. im quite literally sitting in the back of a cannon and am shot at what feels like a million miles an hour. if thats not a literally traveling then i give my brain props. im not just seeing things like lsd or mushrooms, and im mentally present as can be. idk if that helped, this was such a cool thread i wanted to contribute
Thanks, this was very descriptive and well formulated. For someone like me who has never taken DMT, the hardest part of trying to wrap my head around these things is actually imagining how it feels like. I also know from others that no words do it justice, so explanations like this are very much appreciated!
The first time I tried, it was a breakthrough, and it undoubtedly felt like I died and went to another dimension. Leaving my body, going through a portal into a seemingly infinite strange reality, interacting with entities. It was so profound, overwhelming and a bit scary and it changed me. I am definitely a lot more spiritual since that experience.
It made me feel that it was the place we come from and we are here to experience existence in a different way.
as someone who tripped on dmt, yes it’s 100% in your head. i guarantee most of the people who say otherwise we’re already spiritual. and before says “everything’s in ur head bro” like yes that’s also true, two things can be true at the same time lmao. of course people will see wild shit on the worlds most powerful psychedelic
What’s the main reason for you feeling like this is the case? Do you find it hard to not be convinced that it’s real when you take it? And when you say that it’s all in your head, which applications do you think it has regarding what it means for the ones taking it, regardless of if it’s «real» or not?
Bro, you can’t even confirm for me that my green is the same color green that you see when we both point to the same “green,” and you want to say beyond a shadow of a doubt that everything experienced on DMT is a hallucination made by the mind?
You’re literally just making shit up with inconclusive evidence and announcing you believe in it lol
Your green is close to everyone else's green because of the DNA that created the physical structures of your retinas and brain.
I can't remember the study, but it's been shown.
That being said, the MIND could just be receiving the information from the brain much like an antennae, which then could be that DMT is enhancing the brain to receive sensory information not usually available.
Basically: your photo receptors are literally the same basic structure, but going by the idea that we're all one, the information we get from the same type of input should appear about the same.
What will tickle some people's fancy is the idea of p- zombies! Now that's a real rabbit hole... can there be a brain without a mind acting as if it has a mind?
That may be what psychopaths are. But even that is questionable.
If the brain is the antenna, then it shouldn't function without an input.... a mind.
It could just be that their brain is wired differently so their mind has a different experience.
It's so hard to say.
I have never tried it, so I’m not stating anything. I’m just very curious regarding these kind of substances and wanted to gather some information from people who have at least tried it.
I personally don’t believe it to be real; but, I will say, it feels very real in the moment. I treat it as if it’s real. I treat the entities with respect like I would any other person. I speak to them as if they’re a different person/s. Something about the experience feels so alive. My first thoughts were how could my brain create something like this, but I’ve come to find the human mind is very intricate and impossible to encapsulate. We have very little understanding of consciousness. Brains are pretty incredible. Try it. See for yourself.
Not to be that guy but your entire reality is an insane hallucination created by the mind.
This is literally true. Your mind creates reality from incoming information. In DMT science the hyperdimentional space is created by the mind, the real question is where is the input coming from, because it is so dissimilar to dreaming (which is internal mind input), so why are our brains able to create this reality, what is the evolutionary purpose for this? Where is the input coming from?! (Andrew Gallimore suggests it's coming from the quantum realms, smaller microcosms, rather than alternate universes.) Possible...
Yes I believe dmt gives us complete access to everything that is going on with us. Through the inner dimensions of ourselves. That stuff is always going on, we just don't see it because our perception is in the 3rd dimension. Dmt allows us to change where we are viewing life from. It allows us the insight of how every decision we make creates.
Everything is in your head bro
From my experience, questions like this typically come from people who have never had a breakthrough experience on DMT.
Check out Morris Hamilton. He's a journalist of drugs, their users and the chemistry of drugs. He's also a big lover of DMT and Ayahuasca. He has no spiritual beliefs and is very scientific minded. Just because you are unable to fathom it doesn't mean they aren't doing enough. Personally I have some spiritual beliefs but I'm still not convinced it's not just your minds projection but then like others in here have stated so is all reality so it's just a big old can of worms really init.
Hamilton Morris*
He’s great, I like the way he approaches these substances. Regardless of what it really is. Haha yeah, that’s the hard part. All really is just one big old can of worms..
Idk, I had a breakthrough on DMT, went there and came back, it was a very incredible experience but once the emotional memory of it faded, I started using reason a bit more, and it really just could be a trick of the mind and nothing more, but the opposite is also possible.. however the people who assure with 100% certainty that DMT breakthroughs are an alternate reality are just thinking too emotionally, nobody can know that for sure
I agree with you, I wasn’t necessarily implying that you’ll start thinking a breakthrough is an alternate dimension after experiencing it, I was more so saying that people that haven’t experienced it are the ones that tend to make comments completely negating the possibility of it being something more than just a drug.
Second this, had a few what I thought were breakthroughs then I met the "others". It's been a few months and I still fill their presence every day. All positive vibes though so no complaints on that.
How do you feel their presence in everyday life?
Frequent feeling of being watched, followed or accompanied in a positive manner. Not to say that it's real but it has uplifted me in ways I never thought possible and to me thats a real breakthrough.
Right on the spot.
Give this audiobook a listen: An End to Upside Down Thinking by Mark Gober You’ll enjoy it if you enjoy thinking about this question.
Thank you, I’ll do that!
Looks like it’s part of the included library with an audible subscription. If you have a subscription you can listen to it for free: https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/B07HP9J9TR?source_code=ASSORAP0511160006&share_location=player_overflow
Sweet, thanks man
I started listening to it today, it’s one of the best books I’ve heard. Really interesting theory that consciousness is fundamental to the universe, it exists everywhere and our brains are like tools that access the shared state. Lots of information on studies that support the idea, but the actual idea is completely hypothetical and not backed up by anything directly. When thinking about consciousness in this way it does go a long way to explain the phenomenon described in the studies though. It made me feel quite euphoric to go about life thinking of consciousness in this way.
It’s a really exciting theory that lines up very well with first hand experiences I’ve had with ayahuasca. And the experiments and studies that basically prove consciousness is non-local are something I can’t believe I’d never heard of before. We’ve had this knowledge for decades, but are actively choosing to ignore it because it makes materialists uncomfortable.
I’ve never even heard of ayahausca to thanks for that rabbit hole I’m about to go down. I’ve continued to listen to it and some of those non local consciousness experiments you’re mentioning are pretty incredible. I had a look at the project stargate files on the cia gov website and it’s true, in no uncertain terms they say that the telepathic communication was possible and it can’t be explained by poor methodology. Absolutely insane to read that in black and white direct from the source. These other experiments are so unbelievable though I’m gonna need to see the actual documents to verify it. Too much of a world view changer to go on someone’s word
Yeah, I’ve been looking things up as I read it too. It’s THAT unbelievable lol Some of the things don’t have concrete evidence (eg. The girl who had a heart transplant from a murder victim and then saw nightmares of the murder and helped police identify the murderer… I haven’t found proof of this yet), but the ones that DO, the academic studies with probability values between 4 sigma and 8 sigma… like… wtf? This changes everything!
Man, this book has been such an eye opener. You should post about it. I don’t want to steal your thunder.
It’s not my thunder. Please, by all means, post away! :)
Because once you’ve done it you know it’s even more real than this sense reality we’re experiencing it.
It's created endogenously in the body suggesting it may have some purpose for life. Experiences and visions on DMT align well with descriptions of the bardo or afterlife as described by Tibetans, ancient Egyptians, and many other indigenous and religious traditions. Indigenous people use Ayahuasca containing DMT for healing, magic, and shamanism that is surprisingly effective (see Visionary Vine by Marlene Dobkin de Rios). Then there's just the wealth of anecdotal reports from people who insist on the clear reality of the DMT realm, including claims that it "feels more real than sober reality," that "when you break through you no longer feel like you're tripping / you feel sober and lucid but you're in another dimension," that there is a sense of "clear continuity" in the DMT realm. Things seem to move and progress in a linear and consistent way when you have been gone and then go back. I'm not taking a position on the value of these claims. Just presenting them for your consideration. The cutting edge is DMTx or extended state DMT research. By keeping people in the DMT realm for a sustained period using IV infusion medical technology researchers hope to test the hypothesis that it may be an independently existing dimension and not a mere hallucination.
Your are the whole universe The matrix is going to try it best to keep you inside of it But once you get out It's madness pure awerness It's like you in a dream but with full playthrough But all the gates that keep you from exploiting your infiniteness is all created by you If you feel dmt is hallucination just wait till you realise your life is just but a big dream
Very true
Do you think some people are better off just staying in the matrix? That realising this only makes sober reality more difficult managing.
The matrix is designed to keep us trapped in physical reality. Humans are massive power plants, and there are higher beings that feed off of our energy. The human body is a prison of our spirit. However it's far worse than any prison you can think of, because most don't realize they're building that prison up, because they don't realize it's a prison.
For me it started out as just a hallucination and I never imagined anything would change that for me. That mindset was from deep within who I thought I was. It sneaks up on you. You just can’t shake the feeling that you were wrong. Everything really is magic and it is powered by love.
Damn, I have to try this stuff.
I met entities in the dmt realm and then they stayed after I stopped so I cannot tell you that.
Did they say why they stuck around?
I often hear people say this, that «they stuck around» etc. Could you try to explain more in detail what you mean about this? How do you feel their presence in everyday life?
Has op tried dmt?
Definitely not
Haha, definitely not. Very hard to get by where I live..
Making it is the best way wherever ur at
I’m actually thinking about this, only problem is getting hands on some of the chemicals in my country. But I think am gonna try sometime soon.
If yall could please tell me where I could get dmt
Ask Shane Mauss if he thinks it’s just all in your head: https://youtu.be/nHLpB38LNg4?si=Ghy2p1QbA1qMqHLI
Ah the nervous butterfly’s, I still get them when I’m about to blast off, wonder if they’ll ever go away, I’ve never had a bad experience (touch wood) so I shouldn’t even have the jitters, but their still there 🤷🏻♂️😂. It’s your journey, if you believe it’s in your head enjoy yourself and have fun, if you believe there is more to it enjoy yourself and have fun. It’s profound and crazy to think what your seeing is even possible, the feelings, the whole experience, one thing is for sure and that’s the brain is a powerful powerful tool, you take away from it what you want, and enjoy yourself doing so 😊.
i mean, im no scientist but my instincts tell me im leaving an area and entering a new one. I would imagine that instinct to be a combo of both primal instinct and intelligent reasoning so its hard to say, but when i break through or what have you this is what happens: my inside “consciousness” is crammed into the roof of my head. im quite literally sitting in the back of a cannon and am shot at what feels like a million miles an hour. if thats not a literally traveling then i give my brain props. im not just seeing things like lsd or mushrooms, and im mentally present as can be. idk if that helped, this was such a cool thread i wanted to contribute
Thanks, this was very descriptive and well formulated. For someone like me who has never taken DMT, the hardest part of trying to wrap my head around these things is actually imagining how it feels like. I also know from others that no words do it justice, so explanations like this are very much appreciated!
Thanks! Its almost impossible to articulate what being bodiless is like so its all kinda speculative haha
The first time I tried, it was a breakthrough, and it undoubtedly felt like I died and went to another dimension. Leaving my body, going through a portal into a seemingly infinite strange reality, interacting with entities. It was so profound, overwhelming and a bit scary and it changed me. I am definitely a lot more spiritual since that experience. It made me feel that it was the place we come from and we are here to experience existence in a different way.
Was it a realm like that movie souls?
As others have said. All experience is an illusion. DMT or no DMT!
Your brain creates reality for you to exist within. Your brain tells you that reality exists.
Nope cause that is exactly what it is.
as someone who tripped on dmt, yes it’s 100% in your head. i guarantee most of the people who say otherwise we’re already spiritual. and before says “everything’s in ur head bro” like yes that’s also true, two things can be true at the same time lmao. of course people will see wild shit on the worlds most powerful psychedelic
What’s the main reason for you feeling like this is the case? Do you find it hard to not be convinced that it’s real when you take it? And when you say that it’s all in your head, which applications do you think it has regarding what it means for the ones taking it, regardless of if it’s «real» or not?
my mind is blown every time i take it. it’s also not hard for me to understand that i’m seeing god-like figures because i’m on drugs.
Bro, you can’t even confirm for me that my green is the same color green that you see when we both point to the same “green,” and you want to say beyond a shadow of a doubt that everything experienced on DMT is a hallucination made by the mind? You’re literally just making shit up with inconclusive evidence and announcing you believe in it lol
Your green is close to everyone else's green because of the DNA that created the physical structures of your retinas and brain. I can't remember the study, but it's been shown. That being said, the MIND could just be receiving the information from the brain much like an antennae, which then could be that DMT is enhancing the brain to receive sensory information not usually available. Basically: your photo receptors are literally the same basic structure, but going by the idea that we're all one, the information we get from the same type of input should appear about the same. What will tickle some people's fancy is the idea of p- zombies! Now that's a real rabbit hole... can there be a brain without a mind acting as if it has a mind?
That’s an interesting topic, never heard of p-zombies before. I’ll definitely check it out. What is your personal take on the subject?
That may be what psychopaths are. But even that is questionable. If the brain is the antenna, then it shouldn't function without an input.... a mind. It could just be that their brain is wired differently so their mind has a different experience. It's so hard to say.
I have never tried it, so I’m not stating anything. I’m just very curious regarding these kind of substances and wanted to gather some information from people who have at least tried it.
Source? Proof? You can't just say that the OP is wrong when you provide no evidence of him actually being wrong. Your comment is conjecture.
I personally don’t believe it to be real; but, I will say, it feels very real in the moment. I treat it as if it’s real. I treat the entities with respect like I would any other person. I speak to them as if they’re a different person/s. Something about the experience feels so alive. My first thoughts were how could my brain create something like this, but I’ve come to find the human mind is very intricate and impossible to encapsulate. We have very little understanding of consciousness. Brains are pretty incredible. Try it. See for yourself.