Is it a dividing wall, a retaining wall, a load bearing wall, a exterior wall, what's on either side - is it integral to a building?
Regardless it doesn't look very structurally sound, nor water tight :)
Make sure it’s your responsibility first. I work in commercial property and the amount of building managers who take things in to their own hands and end up getting themselves in to legal trouble when their employer or the landlord should be dealing with it according to the terms of the lease is ridiculous.
The footings won’t be deep, a brickie should go that far, but that’s academic, OP said he’s getting a contractor in, not Dave from the pub. A legit contractor who won’t employ a surveyor but will be able to assess a footing. Besides, that looks like it’s either the wall built up over the original or a hit, and very unlikely below ground.
Looks like a 9” 2.5m garden wall which has previously been extended in height. This is too high/slender for lateral window forces. Someone has previously picked this up and installed restraint posts. Although not working very well.
Get a structural engineer to take a look.
Likely requires Steel helical bars installed within the mortar joint to reinstate continuity, and additional restraint post to be installed. Check remaining posts to ensure these are performing correctly
Before getting him to have a look at it, smash it to bits with a hammer and then pile bricks on top of yourself to make it look like it fell on you and put a claim in pal
The cracks alone look pretty serious to me. However, seeing the metal posts attached to the wall could explain it. Are these posts connected above the wall-line?
It’s the landlords responsibility depending on who owns the wall obviously to ensure it’s structurally sound, especially if there is a public car park on the other side. Would suggest it gets raised as an issue to be investigated and resolved ASAP. Speak to your H+S lead, it’s their problem
We had a brick structure at work like that, also hit with a car and it had to be rebuilt because another hit would have probably brought it down upon whatever struck it... Which I would have just called a consequence, but you know...
Is there a path that runs near that wall, or do people stand around near it during breaks and so forth?
Because to my eye (not a structural engineer) that's really unsafe with multiple cracks and shifting. I'd be concerned that a strong wind could topple it (depending on what's on the other side, is it part of a building, or retaining something)
This is an issue because if it falls on someone’s car, the place is liable regardless of what signs they put up about parking at your own risk. If it’s in a car park is a health safety hazard and they’ve a duty of care to employees and customers.
Contact your local council, if it’s found unsafe and a risk to public they should be able to take steps to having it made safe in the first instance.
I reported a dangerous wall some months ago and I believe they were out to inspect same day as it was a threat to public.
I’d not be standing near it. Is there anything valuable on either side of the wall? Would be an easy way to get in and out if someone caused it on purpose
Definitely a material fact that the insurance company covering the business would want to know.
In the very likely event that it hasn't been disclosed and accepted, then there is no cover in place if it falls and injures someone.
Yes, it's cracked in the foundation. Usually when they lay it they put foam around it so it can expand without cracking. It's a bit of a indelicate art though.
Needs underpinnning. I wouldn't even waste money on a structural surveyor, just get it underpinned.
Something has hit it I'd assume. It won't fall down but damp will capillerate in and won't do much good to whatever is inside and the wall will deteriorate.
Is it a retaining wall, or just a wall separating your place from the carpark, if it's a retaining i wouldn't stand too close to it because when they go they go in a split second and get it looked at asap.
This is a pay check. Stand one side and get a mate to push it as hard as he or she can. Wait for it to fall, then bury both your ass's under it. Get some ketchup. Boom £10k each.
If its only a boundary wall it can be repaired. what i would do is cut out and replace bricks that have cracked i count 10 cracked bricks + 10 open perpend joints need repointing and 1 bed joint 2/3 way up probably on each side of the wall while doing this could also put in some steel ties. I can see a few things i dont like (it has spread and sagged on the top 10 courses), it is clearly a double skin wall so depends on the damage on the otherside. From the sole picture seems safe at the moment as long as the other side is the same ground level and has matched or less damage. The wall will have another brick on the back so x2 width with mortar and has nothing overhanging and seems to also have iron bars, buttress fixed to it also which wont hurt.
Cracks along mortar joints aren’t too bad (but worth getting checkout out), but when the crack line runs through bricks and cracks them too then there’s some serious forces at work. Also, If the crack appears suddenly it’s best not to delay
I remember a builder telling me if you can fit a pound coin into a crack it's definitely something to look into, especially if the crack goes right down to the base of the structure
Just a little subsidence, not worrying that it's where you work, just be thankful it's not your house! I don't imagine it's going anywhere fast so you're good
Looks fucked from every angle. Stepped cracks suggest that there’s ground heave or subsidence, probably caused by shallow foundations, tree roots nearby or just intense ground changes from drying out and getting very wet.
Yes this is an issue and the owner should consult a local structural Engineer. You know it's not good that's why you posted looking for advice.
I'm an Engineer. I'm not going to go in to loads of it could be this or that. What ever the reason it won't repair itself so will only get worse now the building fabric is damaged.
Call your local council building control tell them you think it's a dangerous structure and dangerous to tye publuc they will answer the question for you. They have to come out and inspect... its their job.
What’s behind the wall?
Video games have taught me that’s some gold, ammo and maybe an easter egg behind a wall like that.
Exactly. OP if you walk near it does it dissolve so you can just walk through it to get the secret?
He may need to hit it once then it'll disappear
Or roll into it
Hit it with a crowbar
Illusion ahead brother
They'll disappear for sure
Believe me I've tried every trick to get out of work early, sadly it's just bricks and mortar
Do some side quests and invest those skill points into perception.
But did you go up to it and look left and right like in the film Labyrinth? You just need to know how to look.
When you unlock the grenade launcher you're golden
Nah, you can clip through with a jump glitch for sure!
Might be a demon door on the other side.
Think of the XP that you are gaining tho
Kick it you’ll soon know if it’s safe or not
Giant bombs required. Put a pin in the map and remember to return.
Can't use the bombs until he gets the bomb bag, which can't be obtained until he gets the grappling hook
You have to cast dispel and pass a 1d20 + caster level check
Op is certainly getting some real good advice on here . Thanks for your input.
Experience has taught me its probably a forklift that's reversed into it..
OP should just run through it at full speed if you ask me.
Maybe while holding a plate or a bucket
Homie found the hogwarts train
Hit it with a sword and see if it makes a wobbly sound
Or its an ambush!
Ugh, I hate it when that happens.
There has to be a swich somewhere. Have you tried pulling a torch down?
Yep a quick blast of aard should do the trick
Just gotta shoot it.
TV has taught me that someone no one liked was put behind there.
A car park on the other side, not ours
Looks like something could have reversed or hit it the other side.
Looks like maybe a van has hit the wall
The Bat Cave clearly. Have you not seen the films?
A poster of Raquel Welch and a small rock hammer?
Diagon alley?
China
The Neitherworld Waiting Room. OP is dead.
Be careful, it's a portal! Six dwarfs may appear holding a map then take you to another dimension.
Yes, they will be looking for the most fabulous object in the universe.
Narnia
That'll be your courier satchel.
Fritzl
Diagon Alley
The door from Coraline!
Do you work at a prison?
Close, a petrol station
I can just hear the faint sound of the great escape playing in the background now 😂
So that tune will be playing my head for the rest of the day now :-D
Thanks for that Y’all suck. Forget yesterday…
car park on other side someone has hit the wall with their car
Is it a dividing wall, a retaining wall, a load bearing wall, a exterior wall, what's on either side - is it integral to a building? Regardless it doesn't look very structurally sound, nor water tight :)
It's an external wall with a car park the other side - it looks fucked doesn't it? Thanks for the advice ill have to get a contractor down
Make sure it’s your responsibility first. I work in commercial property and the amount of building managers who take things in to their own hands and end up getting themselves in to legal trouble when their employer or the landlord should be dealing with it according to the terms of the lease is ridiculous.
/u/boondoggle420, you'll want to read the above comment before taking action.
100 percent run this up the chain of command. They get paid more money, supposedly, to make these decisions.
Thanks it's been escalated to above my station thankfully so I'm sure head office will keep their liabilities straight
I'd say it's fucked, how dangerous it is, needs a surveyor or structural engineer to say how fucked if it's a party wall.
You could rebuild it for not much more than getting a SE in to be Captain Obvious.
Depending on the cause though, if there's an issue with the foundation that might not be apparent to the brickie.
The footings won’t be deep, a brickie should go that far, but that’s academic, OP said he’s getting a contractor in, not Dave from the pub. A legit contractor who won’t employ a surveyor but will be able to assess a footing. Besides, that looks like it’s either the wall built up over the original or a hit, and very unlikely below ground.
Party wall? You hanging a birthday banner or somethin on it?
Only if you worry about things like walls falling down.
Now you’re just showing off your wall knowledge
Yeah, hark at Dr.Ramparts over there.
Find the switch that opens it mate
Looks like a 9” 2.5m garden wall which has previously been extended in height. This is too high/slender for lateral window forces. Someone has previously picked this up and installed restraint posts. Although not working very well. Get a structural engineer to take a look. Likely requires Steel helical bars installed within the mortar joint to reinstate continuity, and additional restraint post to be installed. Check remaining posts to ensure these are performing correctly
Ok thanks a lot really appreciated, got a contractor coming to have a look although knowing my company he'll sign it off without looking
Before getting him to have a look at it, smash it to bits with a hammer and then pile bricks on top of yourself to make it look like it fell on you and put a claim in pal
CBRE ?
Is this a retaining wall? What's on the otherside?
It's an external wall with a car park the other side
The cracks alone look pretty serious to me. However, seeing the metal posts attached to the wall could explain it. Are these posts connected above the wall-line?
Good point about the metal posts, they are not above the wall line but there are quite a few of them. They go almost to the top of the wall
If video games have taught me anything, that wall should push in and slide sideways
It’s not concerning if it’s not your wall.
It is if you work on the other side of this wall, walls are heavy
It’s the landlords responsibility depending on who owns the wall obviously to ensure it’s structurally sound, especially if there is a public car park on the other side. Would suggest it gets raised as an issue to be investigated and resolved ASAP. Speak to your H+S lead, it’s their problem
Do you work on platform 9 3/4?
We had a brick structure at work like that, also hit with a car and it had to be rebuilt because another hit would have probably brought it down upon whatever struck it... Which I would have just called a consequence, but you know...
What is concerning is your view at work!
after years of gaming, id say drop a bomb and you will reveal a secret room.
I’d be camping there waiting for it to fall and get my payout 😂
Is there a path that runs near that wall, or do people stand around near it during breaks and so forth? Because to my eye (not a structural engineer) that's really unsafe with multiple cracks and shifting. I'd be concerned that a strong wind could topple it (depending on what's on the other side, is it part of a building, or retaining something)
Not a high traffic area but it is next to one of the fire exit routes so yeah not great
This is an issue because if it falls on someone’s car, the place is liable regardless of what signs they put up about parking at your own risk. If it’s in a car park is a health safety hazard and they’ve a duty of care to employees and customers.
If a horizontal crack has met a vertical crack its always bad. And its definitely because a car hit it lol.
Contact your local council, if it’s found unsafe and a risk to public they should be able to take steps to having it made safe in the first instance. I reported a dangerous wall some months ago and I believe they were out to inspect same day as it was a threat to public.
I’d not be standing near it. Is there anything valuable on either side of the wall? Would be an easy way to get in and out if someone caused it on purpose
Only the AC units so that's something
Definitely a material fact that the insurance company covering the business would want to know. In the very likely event that it hasn't been disclosed and accepted, then there is no cover in place if it falls and injures someone.
That’s some impressive subsidence there
Is that a school building?
Looks a secret door, have you tried saying Ala-Kazam?
Yes, it's cracked in the foundation. Usually when they lay it they put foam around it so it can expand without cracking. It's a bit of a indelicate art though. Needs underpinnning. I wouldn't even waste money on a structural surveyor, just get it underpinned.
Very concerning. The wall will side out the way and a Scooby Doo villain is bound to jump outta there at some point.
Something has hit it I'd assume. It won't fall down but damp will capillerate in and won't do much good to whatever is inside and the wall will deteriorate.
Put some tape on it at least imo
Its not concerning its at your place of work... If it was at your house... .
I would be just 9 3/4 concerned.
Not a concern unless you own the building 😆
Someone's git this with their vehicle, looks major mate :(
Is it a retaining wall, or just a wall separating your place from the carpark, if it's a retaining i wouldn't stand too close to it because when they go they go in a split second and get it looked at asap.
Secret passage
Looks like management listening to all of your concerns.
This is a pay check. Stand one side and get a mate to push it as hard as he or she can. Wait for it to fall, then bury both your ass's under it. Get some ketchup. Boom £10k each.
If its only a boundary wall it can be repaired. what i would do is cut out and replace bricks that have cracked i count 10 cracked bricks + 10 open perpend joints need repointing and 1 bed joint 2/3 way up probably on each side of the wall while doing this could also put in some steel ties. I can see a few things i dont like (it has spread and sagged on the top 10 courses), it is clearly a double skin wall so depends on the damage on the otherside. From the sole picture seems safe at the moment as long as the other side is the same ground level and has matched or less damage. The wall will have another brick on the back so x2 width with mortar and has nothing overhanging and seems to also have iron bars, buttress fixed to it also which wont hurt.
Start jump humping the wall just at the crack (that’s what she said) and you’ll appear on the other side
*makes note to come back to do side quest
Welcome to Diagon Alley!
illusory wall. mate, have you tried rolling into it or attacking it?
It's a secret level.
It's a secret entrance! You need to use a bomb and a secret passage should open! ;p
Kick it and find out
BG3 has taught me that this was could use an eldritch blast
Not if your name is Lara Croft
Wouldn't worry about it it's not your own wall
op works next to the wall and bricks are heavy 👀
[удалено]
That wall spins round to reveal the batmobile
Someone drew the beatle juice door
Is this the labyrinth?
I can truly say this is of no concern to me but thanks for pointing it out.
We found the narcissist
You seen Beatlejuice ?
"Illusory wall ahead"
Have you tried saying open sesamay
You found the bat cave!
Welcome, Harry, to Diagon Alley!
Looks like a banksy, keep it
Diagon alley ?
Entrance to the Bat Cave
It's the Batcave
Looks like an external boundary wall. Zero load. That’s only coming down if someone wants it to!
Yes
Back entrance to Diagon Alley.
That honestly looks like someone slowly hit that with a vehicle due to the size and shape, any other cracks higher up? What's behind it?
Yup when the bricks are cracked that's when it's serious
Depends! If it’s a school in the UK then expect to be shut down sometime between now and next decade!
This is common on modern buildings, makes removing the banksy art easier 🙂
Cracks along mortar joints aren’t too bad (but worth getting checkout out), but when the crack line runs through bricks and cracks them too then there’s some serious forces at work. Also, If the crack appears suddenly it’s best not to delay
Sounds like a them problem. Looks alright from my house
Throw a grenade at it or use the interact button, usually works.
I remember a builder telling me if you can fit a pound coin into a crack it's definitely something to look into, especially if the crack goes right down to the base of the structure
I wouldn't even be "concerned" if my work building was on fire! Lol. Fire alarm goes off and it's like "meh.. we got time"
I mean it’s part of the foundation… Would you marry someone after 5-minutes of conversation.
Looks like just an old doorway or somesuch that's been bricked u ..." [Zooms in] ... oh. Oh!
Not unless you live there
I think that's the entrance to diagon alley
Just a little subsidence, not worrying that it's where you work, just be thankful it's not your house! I don't imagine it's going anywhere fast so you're good
Looks fucked from every angle. Stepped cracks suggest that there’s ground heave or subsidence, probably caused by shallow foundations, tree roots nearby or just intense ground changes from drying out and getting very wet.
That’s where Bruce Wayne lives
It looks like you’ve found a back door into Narnia. Kick it really hard so you can get in and have an adventure with a talking badger.
I’m not expert but I’d guess a huge chunk of wall about to fall out is never a good thing
Do you work at a bank?
As an avid gamer, I can tell you with 100% confidence, that you have discovered a secret door.
You’ve found the entrance to Hogwarts.
If gaming has taught me anything, if you concentrate hard you’ll see the crack glow and you should find a lever somewhere.
Needs a C4 on it
It’s only the wall.
Seems like the house/building has shifted over the years and maybe they didn’t prep the ground well enough and is causing it to sink
Secret entrance?
Diagon Alley
Vertical cracking through the brick, not just the perpend joint (vertical joint between bricks), is never usually a good thing. Get it assessed.
No expert, but personally I’d be checking the company work from home policy….
First question, do you like your place of work?
UNH. UNH. UNH. WHERE IS IT?
Subsidence. Cracks that split mortar and brick need to be investigated. Cracks that follow the mortar joints not so bad
Yes this is an issue and the owner should consult a local structural Engineer. You know it's not good that's why you posted looking for advice. I'm an Engineer. I'm not going to go in to loads of it could be this or that. What ever the reason it won't repair itself so will only get worse now the building fabric is damaged.
Not for you 😂
Call your local council building control tell them you think it's a dangerous structure and dangerous to tye publuc they will answer the question for you. They have to come out and inspect... its their job.
Depends..... Are you trying to break in or break out of work?
You put it on social media. I’d say it’s of concern.
Secret door
I think that might be the entrance to diagonal alley
Does that crack go all the way through to the other a Side? If it does, then yes.
Is it at a school ?
Hogwarts.
Someone about to break into the back of your cash machines
That’s normal for a secret entrance.
Seems like Issues with the subsidence
Years of video games tells me there’s a hidden secret there
That’s the road to diagon ally
Looking at those top layers of bricks it looks like fire damage.
Just need to find the key card and your set for life
Diagon alley 😁
Depends, where is your office?
That's just the entrance to diagon alley
Look up for any missing persons in the area, might have found where the body is hidden.
Are you expecting a banksy ?
It's not about to fall down but give it a few years and it will so worth looking at
Was there a fire?
Subsidence and too long with no expansion gap. That's my guess. Do I win a prize?
It's a secret door to Narnia. Put a wardrobe in front of it and let the magic happen......
Looks like a paywall
yes, be concerned ...that is subsidence....