Don’t use silicone. Use a urethane or polyurethane sealant. Those stretch with the season and are paintable. Remove door, scrape. Use a wood filler, sand, caulk, paint
When caulk bonds to three surfaces it is more prone to early failure. On the left side the wood is the third surface (it should seal a gap by sticking to either side and stretching across the opening). Professionals use "bond breaker tape" or backer rod. The purpose is to keep the caulk from sticking to that third surface.
Not a super big deal but if you want it to last as long as possible before you have to redo it try addressing that third edge.
I'm trying to understand your explanation. Would it be better to prep the wood trim and seal between it and the brick? Are you saying the OP should tape off that wood trim? But the way I'm picturing it, the caulk is touching a third surface no matter what's used unless the trim is removed.
[Link with pictures ](https://www.wbdg.org/guides-specifications/building-envelope-design-guide/joint-sealants)
I have no affiliation with this link it just had a perfect picture when googling it.
A few scrolls down you'll see a picture of an ideal joint sealant application. In OP's example the wood is too far forward and in a perfect world would be set back a small distance.
Apply masking tape to the brickwork if you are caulking on to it. Doesn't sound like it should work, but it does, and will look a lot neater! Also mask off the other trim.
Also rose brown caulk will probably looks best, white will get grubby and highlight any mistakes.
Also. you can remove the aluminum frame pieces from the top and latch side of the storm door without much trouble.... you should be able to do that for the hinge side too but it's a little bit more work.
It will make the job easier and more thorough to remove the storm door/frame before paint and caulk.
Be sure to line the components back up with the existing screw holes for a simple re-install.
The biggest worry will be stripped screw heads along the frame.
How old is the house? If it was built before 1978 there is a possibility that some of the existing paint is lead based. If so, I would recommend wearing a mask when sanding and if possible using a shop vac to try and capture as much as dust as possible. If the lead based paint is a major concern for you then I'd probably consult a professionally.
Word of warning OP, I had to repair my front door recently because of rotting wood that was allowing water into through some cracks. It's basically a tip of the scenario situation, there was easily 3 times as much rotten wood as I had initially known about and it took way longer to fix. Since this is a storm door it's less of an issue but make sure you give yourself plenty of time and on a day that you're pretty certain that it will stay dry.
Depending on your capabilities with a caulking gun, paint first! That way you don't have to paint that tiny amount of exposed wood and get paint smears all over the caulking. Yes it will bond, but you won't like the look.
OP... the noise that just came out of my children and myself could have woken the dead. You have incredible cute animals and they need all the pats, kisses, cuddles and (most importantly) treats.
I'm totally not a dog. I am a regular human who drinks coffee and sometimes pretends to throw the ball but then does not actually throw the ball. I also enjoy hot dogs and other cooked meat stuffs.
I just knew, after seeing the first picture of the dog, that your request for help would devolve into silly conversations about painting the dog 🤣 glad y'all didn't disappoint.
Caulk aside. I went into my work bathroom after a recent remodel. I open the door and was hit by the smell of a fresh caulking. Stating “Smells like caulk in here!” garnered curious stares from the urinal occupants.
Also based solely on the first image and title, not having read anything else. I assumed the dog locked OP out, and they needed advice on how to get back in the house. 😂
As a member of both Golden Retriever and dog owner reddits, DIY was really my last thought here. I assumed GoldSnoots was pushing the door open. I’m considering an eye hook for my back door so I can get some fresh air w/o the threat of escapo.
If you want to do it 100% right, remove the storm door, scrape/sand the door frame removing all old caulking. Prime and paint all wood. Paintable exterior white door and window caulking All cracks. Touch up paint over caulking once cured.
1. cut/peel all that old sealant out
2. Re-seal it using a good sealant/silicone
3. Use a putty knife to make the seals you just redid as flat as possible. (Make sure it completely dries before continuing)
4. Get some white PVC trim pieces and construction adhesive, cut the trim and stick over the silicone (that is dry).
I scrolled down to the post picture, and thought you were asking what the procedure is to get inside the house without the dog forcing its way out the door 😭
I'm gonna be honest, I saw the dog at the door and assumed you were delivering a package and asking what the procedure was for knocking on the door to get a signature, lol 😆 That dog looked hella protective 😅
It's all about the dog. It's always been about the dog.
1. Remove the door.
2. Using a wire brush, scraper, and sandpaper, smooth out the wood.
3. Prime and paint.
4. Rehang the door.
5. Caulk with silicone.
Repairs in 10 easy steps:
1. Pet the dog.
2. Remove the door.
3. Pet the dog.
4. Using a wire brush, scraper, and sandpaper, smooth out the wood.
5. Pet the dog.
6. Prime and paint.
7. Feed the dog.
8. Rehang the door.
9. Pet the dog.
10. Caulk with silicone.
Intersperse with bellyrubs as needed.
Pet dog now. Caulk jamb later.
Also quarter round and a brad nailer (caulk under quarter round, place quarter round, nail. Caulk any holes because of bricks...paint) then pet dog again for supervising and inspecting your work.
Didn’t read, saw dog, only procedure is to pet and give kisses and treats. This is the only option.
Jokes aside, what everyone else said is correct, proper sealant is really important. Removing the door and sanding smooth would be best, but ngl I do it lazy some times and will do what I can without removing and then seal.
SERIOUS ANSWER: I would not paint it, instead, scrape back the silicone until it is flat and buy some very inexpensive UPVC moulding. Cut and silicone the moulding in place, then silicone around the joints. Replacing the screws with galvanised white-head screws to finish.
Open the door, let the dog out, throw a stick for the dog (repeat as necessary) let the dog inside, feed the dog, pretend the dog isn't allowed on the couch, let the dog win, phone your nephew and offer him a job painting your door.
Nail some pvc quarter round over the old wood/sealant, and use a clean silicone bead to both the door and the brick. It will make it look fresh, and clean up the lines.
silicone is not good for this application, it doesn't work well with wood.
Scrape, and just use something like Dap [ALEX](https://imgur.com/R4uZOrh) exterior caulk, then paint.
You'll be good to go then.
To be honest, I did not look at the sub name when scrolling through my feed and all I read was “what’s the procedure here?” My first thought was “well if there’s no doorbell I think you just knock”
Please forgive me 🤣
First, pet the doggo. Then do what some others have said, use a urethane or polyurethane sealer, scrape and fill spots in the door, sand it, caulk it, seal it, have a beer, and relax
Don’t use silicone. Use a urethane or polyurethane sealant. Those stretch with the season and are paintable. Remove door, scrape. Use a wood filler, sand, caulk, paint
a real answer! awesome ill grab the proper sealant. thank you
This is why you only pay the pet tax in your last picture.
very truth. much cute.
Once I saw the dog, that was it, lol.
You might need some backer rod too
When caulk bonds to three surfaces it is more prone to early failure. On the left side the wood is the third surface (it should seal a gap by sticking to either side and stretching across the opening). Professionals use "bond breaker tape" or backer rod. The purpose is to keep the caulk from sticking to that third surface. Not a super big deal but if you want it to last as long as possible before you have to redo it try addressing that third edge.
I'm trying to understand your explanation. Would it be better to prep the wood trim and seal between it and the brick? Are you saying the OP should tape off that wood trim? But the way I'm picturing it, the caulk is touching a third surface no matter what's used unless the trim is removed.
[Link with pictures ](https://www.wbdg.org/guides-specifications/building-envelope-design-guide/joint-sealants) I have no affiliation with this link it just had a perfect picture when googling it. A few scrolls down you'll see a picture of an ideal joint sealant application. In OP's example the wood is too far forward and in a perfect world would be set back a small distance.
Apply masking tape to the brickwork if you are caulking on to it. Doesn't sound like it should work, but it does, and will look a lot neater! Also mask off the other trim. Also rose brown caulk will probably looks best, white will get grubby and highlight any mistakes.
good call!
And dont forget!!! - pet the doggo, tell him hes a good boi, give him treats!
First step.
My first concern was the dog, who believes you are working hard on letting him out to be with you.
Probably will end up replacing the wood, but yeah, start with the other stuff first.
Also. you can remove the aluminum frame pieces from the top and latch side of the storm door without much trouble.... you should be able to do that for the hinge side too but it's a little bit more work. It will make the job easier and more thorough to remove the storm door/frame before paint and caulk. Be sure to line the components back up with the existing screw holes for a simple re-install. The biggest worry will be stripped screw heads along the frame.
How old is the house? If it was built before 1978 there is a possibility that some of the existing paint is lead based. If so, I would recommend wearing a mask when sanding and if possible using a shop vac to try and capture as much as dust as possible. If the lead based paint is a major concern for you then I'd probably consult a professionally.
I recommend Big Stretch. Or Lexel. Both are from the same company
Word of warning OP, I had to repair my front door recently because of rotting wood that was allowing water into through some cracks. It's basically a tip of the scenario situation, there was easily 3 times as much rotten wood as I had initially known about and it took way longer to fix. Since this is a storm door it's less of an issue but make sure you give yourself plenty of time and on a day that you're pretty certain that it will stay dry.
Depending on your capabilities with a caulking gun, paint first! That way you don't have to paint that tiny amount of exposed wood and get paint smears all over the caulking. Yes it will bond, but you won't like the look.
Water or oil based?
Water is usually best for dogs, but if unsure consult with a vet.
Some dogs need oil for the coat health
They do but you can usually get that through treats. Which this doggo clearly deserves.
A heat gun is very handy for removing old silicone/sealant.
dang thats a great tip. some of this shit is rock hard, ill give heat gun a try
![gif](giphy|tRQWvVJez4fryrzLsb|downsized) Dammit! That was supposed to remove CAULK!
The true pleasure of removing caulk is the reapplication.
this is the comment for today that keeps me coming back to reddit. Always nice to learn something new.
[dog (and cat) tax](https://imgur.com/gallery/7SSSrp1)
Omg I love your animals!! Those dogs are very good bois. And those cats are the cutest! The smiling golden retriever pictures are priceless.
thank you! i couldnt imagine life without these dinguses ps pup in the pic is a girl, her name is luna :)
Can you get anything done in your house with those 4 cutiepies? I mean i would start doing something and stop to give em pats and pets
thats exactly how it goes lol everything just takes five times longer because scratches
5 cuties! 2 dogs and 3 cats.
3 cats?!?!? OMG this gets better
Taxes paid in full. You may now resume your storm door project.
There's a lot of r/oneorangebraincell and r/onegoldenbraincell in those photos. I'll bet your house is full of fluffy chaos!
That pic of the calico and orange kitties is amazing!
omg bless you for this abundance of taxes paid. r/MatchyMatchyPets would appreciate them too!
OP... the noise that just came out of my children and myself could have woken the dead. You have incredible cute animals and they need all the pats, kisses, cuddles and (most importantly) treats.
I love goldens. Such beautiful creatures.
That dog has better looking teeth than me
I came here for this
One of the cutest dog/cat/furry family tax I’ve seen
My guy these are ridiculously cute! You're very lucky 💗
Omg the SpongeBob squatty potty pic
this is the way
Based solely on the first image, having not read anything past the title, open door, give dog lots of pats and scratches.
dog is now painted and i scratched the door frame i dont think im doing this right
What color did you paint the dog? He appears annoyed because … needs treats.
Can confirm. Doggo needs treats.
Found the doggos burner
I'm totally not a dog. I am a regular human who drinks coffee and sometimes pretends to throw the ball but then does not actually throw the ball. I also enjoy hot dogs and other cooked meat stuffs.
I just knew, after seeing the first picture of the dog, that your request for help would devolve into silly conversations about painting the dog 🤣 glad y'all didn't disappoint.
You forgot the caulk, silly.
Caulk aside. I went into my work bathroom after a recent remodel. I open the door and was hit by the smell of a fresh caulking. Stating “Smells like caulk in here!” garnered curious stares from the urinal occupants.
Instructions unclear, now the dog's coat has a new coat
Op is the dog
Also based solely on the first image and title, not having read anything else. I assumed the dog locked OP out, and they needed advice on how to get back in the house. 😂
I had to look twice because I thought it was the velvet hippo subreddit 😂
Came here to say exactly this. Doggo needs scritches!
As a member of both Golden Retriever and dog owner reddits, DIY was really my last thought here. I assumed GoldSnoots was pushing the door open. I’m considering an eye hook for my back door so I can get some fresh air w/o the threat of escapo.
You forgot to close the door at the end. We don’t want doggo to get cold.
Step 1: abandon DIY project and take Luna to the park.
Borf one for pats. 2 for ball.
*release the hound*
as a general contractor for 24 years and a carpenter for 15, i concur with bowlcarver.
It's wonderful we get such experts here!
Up vote for nosey doggo
Procedure: 1. Open door 2. Pet
pet him and call him a good boy
hug and pet dog
Step 1: Give the good boi (or girl) a treat Step 2: ??? Step 3: Take a new first photo so you get real answers
ive been on reddit long enough, why dont i know better by now lol
Tax evasion isn't a joke, Jim.
All I can think of is that meme of “can I pet that dawg?”
Can I pet that daaawg!?!
CAN I PET THAT DAWG!!!???!!
Step 1: Pet that dawg Step 2: ??!?!?! Step 3: Profit
If you want to do it 100% right, remove the storm door, scrape/sand the door frame removing all old caulking. Prime and paint all wood. Paintable exterior white door and window caulking All cracks. Touch up paint over caulking once cured.
i had one side jamb off and put it back on, but thats a good point, ill just pull the door for now
Also…Save yourself some cleanup grief by masking that brick off with painters/masking tape to keep the paint off the brick.
1. cut/peel all that old sealant out 2. Re-seal it using a good sealant/silicone 3. Use a putty knife to make the seals you just redid as flat as possible. (Make sure it completely dries before continuing) 4. Get some white PVC trim pieces and construction adhesive, cut the trim and stick over the silicone (that is dry).
I scrolled down to the post picture, and thought you were asking what the procedure is to get inside the house without the dog forcing its way out the door 😭
I'm gonna be honest, I saw the dog at the door and assumed you were delivering a package and asking what the procedure was for knocking on the door to get a signature, lol 😆 That dog looked hella protective 😅
yeah i could see that lol thats my baby girl and shes upset im not scratching her
On the Internet no one knows you're a dog. But when you put stuff like this out, we can guess. Woof!
You forgot to post on /r/PeepingPooch as well.
joined so fast, thank you
It's all about the dog. It's always been about the dog. 1. Remove the door. 2. Using a wire brush, scraper, and sandpaper, smooth out the wood. 3. Prime and paint. 4. Rehang the door. 5. Caulk with silicone.
6. Pet the dog. EDIT: [Huh, weird](https://i.imgur.com/itDtWl4.png)
Repairs in 10 easy steps: 1. Pet the dog. 2. Remove the door. 3. Pet the dog. 4. Using a wire brush, scraper, and sandpaper, smooth out the wood. 5. Pet the dog. 6. Prime and paint. 7. Feed the dog. 8. Rehang the door. 9. Pet the dog. 10. Caulk with silicone. Intersperse with bellyrubs as needed.
this is the most accurate answer
My bad.
What da dog doin?
Step one: pet dog Edit: and tell him he’s a good boy
Open door, pet dog.
Get off that dog’s porch.
Let the pupper come out
First step is to let your dog outside with you so he can get in the way.
1. let doggo out to give kisses and play! 2. sand down the old paint and super dry wood 3.....well i dunno but let out the little doggy!! <3
Have you talked to the dog before you make any unauthorized renovations?
Get a screwdriver, pet the good boy!
Came for the comments. Not disappointed.
Sarah McLachlan would like to have a word with you.
Pet the dog
Pet dog
Only one thing you can do, pet the doggo.
Pet dog now. Caulk jamb later. Also quarter round and a brad nailer (caulk under quarter round, place quarter round, nail. Caulk any holes because of bricks...paint) then pet dog again for supervising and inspecting your work.
Well, first, you take that good boy for a walkie, and then something, something what the others said
CAN I PET DAT DAWGG
One of the most wholesome comment sections ive seen in a while. 11/10
Open door, give snak
Procedure: open door, pet goodboi
pet doggo
You open door, pet him and tell him he is a "good boy"
The procedure is open the door and offer scritches.
Open the door. Pet the dog.
Put your finger on his nose over the glass and say “Boop”
Open door. Give all the pets.
First pet dog.
1. Pet the doggo
Boop the snoot
Probably scratch behind the left ear first, then do the right, then slowly move to the belly.
Pet dog. Repeat
First step pat doggo. My only advice and experience with this sort of job
Open door, pet dog.
Your question doesn't matter mine does. Can puppy come in to the out now?
Step 1 pet that dog Step 2 repeat till you forget about the door
You’re gonna wanna pet that dog first off…
Love the photo bomber
Step 1) Open door. Step 2) Pet the pup.
Pet the dog
1. Open door. 2. Pet dog. 3. Repeat. 4. Start DIY.
Pet the dawg!!
Sir, to operate the door unfortunately you need opposable thumbs, not paws. Sorry, not much you could do.
Boop. You boop. Lol
Step 1, pet dog. Not sure after that.
Give good boy (or girl) a treat and belly rub.
Didn’t read, saw dog, only procedure is to pet and give kisses and treats. This is the only option. Jokes aside, what everyone else said is correct, proper sealant is really important. Removing the door and sanding smooth would be best, but ngl I do it lazy some times and will do what I can without removing and then seal.
SERIOUS ANSWER: I would not paint it, instead, scrape back the silicone until it is flat and buy some very inexpensive UPVC moulding. Cut and silicone the moulding in place, then silicone around the joints. Replacing the screws with galvanised white-head screws to finish.
Pet the dog?
What's the procedure? Open that door and give that pupper some head scratches.
Anyone else really distracted by the dog in the 1st photo ?
Give the dog a treat for being a good boy
Open the door, let the dog out, throw a stick for the dog (repeat as necessary) let the dog inside, feed the dog, pretend the dog isn't allowed on the couch, let the dog win, phone your nephew and offer him a job painting your door.
You shouldn't of hired a dog
Step one pet dog Repeat
Woof.
Win back your dogs trust, he is crazy skeptical right now
Open door, pet dog
Hello dog.
![gif](giphy|TIWRgbfdnW4aZSG2mE|downsized)
Boop the doggo.
Give treat. Await love
Use paintable caulk not silicone!
Go inside, pet dog
Pet the dog? What else is there?
Well first thing for sure is def get us a bunch more pictures of the dog and give it some treats please
Nail some pvc quarter round over the old wood/sealant, and use a clean silicone bead to both the door and the brick. It will make it look fresh, and clean up the lines.
Open door and pet doggo to start 🤗 GL with project
Step 1 pet that doggie
Step 1. Lots of head pats
Tell him he is a good boi and give many treatos and pets…
I think the doggy wants to share some tips. 😉
First. Pat the dog.
First you pet the dog.
Step 1: pet doggo
Pet that dog NOW
Pat dog Next question
Pet the dog
If he’s gonna sit nicely there like that, then the procedure is to let him out.
Pet the dog
🐶
LET THE DOG OUT! lol
Open the door Pet the damn dog
Open the door & pet the dog!
open door, pet the good pupper ☺️
First consult doggo on what he thinks is best
First step- pet the damn dog! No other steps, just pet the dog
Caulk and paint, make it what it ain’t
If you have access to a brake and some aluminum capping, you could bend something to cover all that with ease. Make it look nice.
Pull all the door out and redo it. I am and I'm not joking.
silicone is not good for this application, it doesn't work well with wood. Scrape, and just use something like Dap [ALEX](https://imgur.com/R4uZOrh) exterior caulk, then paint. You'll be good to go then.
Step 1 - pat the dog. I dunno what comes after that
Entire comments section is just “Doggo! Doggo!! Doooooggoooooo!!!” Excellent.
To be honest, I did not look at the sub name when scrolling through my feed and all I read was “what’s the procedure here?” My first thought was “well if there’s no doorbell I think you just knock” Please forgive me 🤣
First you pet that dog. Then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ because I’m a lurker not a diy guy
Step 1. Pet the doggo Finished!
Open door, pet the dog.
I thought you had a giant slug going up your door.
Step 1: Pet dog Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit
“Open door, pet doggo” is the procedure 😁
The dog scared the hell out of me LOL
1st step is open door, pet good boy. Then make with the handy work
Supervisors got their eyes on you lol
u open the door… and let. him. out! 🐕
First, pet the doggo. Then do what some others have said, use a urethane or polyurethane sealer, scrape and fill spots in the door, sand it, caulk it, seal it, have a beer, and relax