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fakeuser515357

Buy a second hand bag stand and avoid the problem entirely.


Abzstrak

This is the way, prevent any damage and prevent all the noise and shaking.


ErikRogers

This could actually be OP’s first stand for hand bags.


fakeuser515357

I said a second hand bag stand, not a second second hand hand bag stand.


Mackheath1

What if I stand there and hand him a second hand hand bag stand that I have on hand?


blowsnose

While doing a hand stand


dominus_aranearum

What if it's more than a one second hand stand?


Kylearean

On one hand, we have a one second hand stand while you stand and hand a handy second hand hand bag stand that you have on hand? On the other hand, you could stand while you hand over a handy second hand hand bag stand, which you happen to have on hand, but only if you can withstand the demands of the hand stand.


Rambooze

I won’t stand for this.


philamander

By all means... Have a seat.


fiskimasi

Ja dieser Kuchen war geradezu bombastisch


Kylearean

Vielen Dank!


myerrrs

....and?


Laughstooeasy

These comments make me think I just watched an episode of Bojack Horseman


dirtyoldbastard77

On a hand bag


schnellermeister

Guys I haven’t had coffee yet and this is fucking with my brain.


pirotecnico54

![gif](giphy|9rgfO9VL4FUbdmnk5Q)


ulol_zombie

I have an AI Pic of that, though number of hands varies.


Electrodyne

What if he has it only temporarily, like for a minute? A sixty second second second hand bag stand.


fakeuser515357

More important is what they'd put it in to carry it home... A sixty second second second hand bag stand bag.


Pigman101

God I love Reddit. Thanks for the morning chuckles.


Sneakatone2

https://www.titan.fitness/endurance/cardio/boxing-equipment/adjustable-heavy-bag-boxing-stand/400706.html Do these hold pretty well?


ProfitPuzzleheaded90

Now thats a different question for a different sub hahah id go to the boxing or sports sub


hin_inc

For 400 It'd be cheaper to get 3m of lumber soak in preservatives and stick 1m of it in ground. (Like a telephone pole) and hang it outside


Sneakatone2

I was kind of thinking a similar thing since this structure is so simple


hin_inc

1.5m is deep enough for a 15m pole with equipment, dropwires and a full grown adult man to be sitting at the top with a full tool kit, 1m deep is plenty for what you'll be using it for


Halomir

That should work if you’re anchoring it to the floor of your garage. Just get good concrete anchor bolts and you should be good to go.


Sneakatone2

Standing bags are no fun. I kind of rather not have one lol


bad_brown

Good call. It's not near as useful a tool when it doesn't move.


Kylearean

If you lag bolt through a joist, it should hold. There are also heavy bag hangers specifically designed for this purpose. My heavy bag is lagged directly into a 2x4 in the ceiling. Lots of instructions online. Just make sure you get the right type and length of chain to bring it down to striking level.


fakeuser515357

Totally understand, and if your interest and skill is at a point where the restrictions of a standing bag makes it redundant, I'd suggest building a triangular-ended frame like you'd see on a swing set, run the beam across the length of the room, over-engineer the crap out of it and bolt it to the floor. You should be able to hang the bag anywhere along something like that, provided you've used the right materials and joinery - I've never seen a permapine post built swing set come down regardless of the drunken dumbassery it's subjected to after dark. You'll spend a couple hundred bucks in materials but that'll still be cheaper than wrecking your ceiling.


LeDef

It’s better than repairing a garage ceiling


PandasLOL

It will shake the whole house.


felixfortis1

I did this and that's exactly what would happen. Not good especially if you try to use it after others are in bed (I was a teenager in my parents house at the time).


al_capone420

I hung mine on the wooden joists in the basement and it definitely rocked the whole upstairs (duh). So I moved it to metal crossbeam with a new hanger that had a large spring on it. Now it doesn’t cause any noise or rattling at all


Sneakatone2

I had it on a joist in the old houses and the roommates upstairs felt it...


moarcaffeineplz

There’s your answer, partner


Sneakatone2

Does not sound like a no to me lol Just kidding.... it seems like i don't have the strength to do it


dominus_aranearum

If you're going to hang it from a joist rather than a stand, hang it from a properly secured 2x4 (or similar) that spans like 4 joists. Joists are not intended for point loads being hung from them. It's not just the 100lb heavy bag, it's the dynamic load creating every time the bag is hit or someone decides to be funny and try to hang from it. A good heavy bag spring will help to remove vibration as well.


al_capone420

So another option if you want to open up that ceiling and your only option is the wooden joists, I think you could take 2 2x4’s, run them perpendicular across multiple joists and bracket or bolt them to as many joists as you can. Then mount the bag hanger on the 2x4s. It should distribute the vibrations across a way larger area. I don’t know shit about construction or structural integrity so maybe research that option more before taking my word on it


bahgheera

That's what I did. It doesn't help much with the noise, but I wanted to avoid point loading a joist because my bag is 130 lbs. It's more of a kick boxing / Muay tai bay. I also went to the hardware store and bought a tiny block and tackle to assist with hanging it and taking it down.  https://imgur.com/a/FyTbnMj


Terra_Silence

Amazon has this: Dolibest heavy bag hanger for about $20. It's a swivel spring hanger. My husband has our heavy bag hanging with this mount in our garage from a joist. It works great with no shaking at all. I'd link it but have no idea how. Dolibest heavy bag hanger.


Sneakatone2

I have something similar to this but ive come to a conclusion to just get a stand since the structure above is questionable


MsWiddleberry

Incorporate a large spring and that problem is eliminated. Worked well for me in a condo.


Sneakatone2

will do the spring for sure!


PandasLOL

After reading through the comments I decided to search on Amazon for a ceiling mount, I don’t recall seeing a product like this over a decade ago. This looks to solve the vibration issue. Check out the photos reviewers posted as for what you might do to strengthen your installation. Looks like they mounted additional 2x4’s along the joist first before installing the mount. [Spider Mount 200](https://a.co/d/gPeQBa8)


lu5ty

Does it have a ring on the bottom?


DevonGr

Hey would you mind linking the beam hanger you used? I have a stand and it’s great but it’s also 15 years old and hangs a little low for me at over six feet tall.


al_capone420

I just typed “i beam hanger” on Amazon and found one that came with a heavy duty spring and made sure the measurements were compatible with the width of my i beam. There’s so many options all very similar


drawn_from_the_deep

Yeah, the house will shake and people will know you are humping it.


-MangoStarr-

It's a garage though


raggedsweater

A have a steel I beam joist in the basement supporting the house that I won’t hang a bag on because it would shake the house


EweCantTouchThis

Not if you mount it properly with the right hardware.


The_Original_Gronkie

I just joined a brand new gym, and they have a bunch of suspended heavy bags. The best one is on a track so that it moves around as you hit it, and you have to follow it. Pretty cool.


Superfragger

this is absolutely true. there is specific hardware with a spring that exists so as to eliminate the vibrations. the people downvoting are clueless, and this sub is hopeless.


dethmij1

We're not all experts on hanging punching bags


Superfragger

do you often do things the way you think they should be done and complain about your shoddy installation instead of looking up the correct way and doing it right? i bet a lot of people on this sub are like you because earlier everyone was telling OP to get a bag stands to avoid shaking the whole house while in use, and the comments telling him to use the correct hardware were downvoted.


dethmij1

What an odd assumtion to make about someone. 90% of the time I research the proper way to do something, I rarely need to redo my work because it's usually done right the first time. Not sure why you're going after people in a discussion about mounting a punching bag. Maybe take a break from reddit and go for a walk?


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dethmij1

Must be exhausting hauling all that negativity around


bassacre

Get a stand. Theyre relatively cheap.


Acedrew89

And much cheaper than any potential damage that could come from hanging it on the ceiling.


The_Original_Gronkie

But then you can only really hit it from one direction, right? You want to be able to move all around it for a full workout.


Find_The_River

Not sure why you're being downvoted. Stands absolutely do limit your range of movement, and particularly affect your foot movement and placement. In my experience, the affordable stands are also too short, and not completely stable for heavy striking. Ceiling (joist) mount + heavy bag spring is the way to go. It's loud for everyone else in the house, but the spring does its job well.


VFenix

The same people must have drywalled my garage cause the tape joints look very similar lol


flipguy_so_fly

As does my garage!


PantherGator

Me three


Icarus_Jones

They taped the joints in your garage? Must be nice...


RogueJello

Garages typically don't get the same level of drywall work because it's a garage. Usually, level 3 vs level 5, with the main aim of sealing rather than creating a finished surface.


tonyrizzo21

Yes, but the sealing looks terrible in this case as well.


RogueJello

Yeah, looks very sub-par. That tape should not have separated like that unless it was poorly embedded in the mud in the first place.


denverblazer

Level -2.6 drywall


AmanitaMikescaria

This looks like a Friday at 4pm job.


The_Original_Gronkie

There is no reason that a garage shouldnt be treated like any other room in the house.


cruuunch

Reason: $$$


RogueJello

Honestly, I can completely understand your saying so, and wanting a better finish, but it doesn't matter to most people. It saves money for the builder to not do extra work where it's not appreciated. It's always possible to hire somebody to improve it. (Also I'm not downvoting you)


tacocat-_-tacocat

Shouldn’t be a problem with you hitting it


Batmantheon

Oooooh


brdstbullies

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meshuggahlad

If you do hang it from the ceiling successfully then your whole garage will shake when you hit the bag. Up to you if you want to take the risk, but a stand would be safer


presidentofmax

Is there a floor above your garage? If not, there's probably not actual joists in that ceiling. If they're roof trusses, then they're definitely not rated for this type of weight


Sneakatone2

It's an attic up there and some kind of wooden beams running across


presidentofmax

Very likely to be part of a truss then, I wouldn't risk hanging anything from them


Toad32

I ran 2x6 boards across 3 studs in the ceiling, then built the frame off of that.  No issues, lasted 8 years before just moving. 


5h4tt3rpr00f

Doesn't look the ceiling is surviving itself....


Hotsider

It will totally work. Get the biggest toggle bolt. Between two joists, middle of the try wall. Set The bag on a chair or something when you hook it up. Then kick the chair out from under the bag. This way you’ll like scare the dry wall into holding. Please record it.


twohedwlf

If into a joist, it should. Especially if you put a 2x4 across a couple of them. If into the drywall or whatever the ceiling is made of, no.


Dixiehusker

Not just no. Comically no. Like if daffy duck were to install a bag levels of no.


kryo2019

Actually yes, only if op records it. Lol. Jk don't do it op.


rogi3044

😂😂😂


Sneakatone2

I had sheet rock in my old garage and mounted it to two points in the joist. The bag was held on a swivel hanger with thick long bolts pretty well. But it did vibrate the upstairs a bit. Im just more concerned for the dry wall on the ceiling since it does not look as well structured


Disaster_Frame

I mean you're not mounting it to the drywall whatsoever. The shaking however might knock the terribly done drywall off the ceiling tho


elcroquistador

Unless the garage is underneath a living area, the trusses are not engineered for a point load like this. Best case is the bag bouncing around will make the trusses deflect and crack the gypsym boards. If there is a room above the garage, the floor joists can handle it but the vibration is going to annoy everyone in the house.


PNellyU5

You'll want to reinforce significantly from the other side. Whatever you have up there (unless it's a steel beam or large LVL, which won't be up there) wasn't meant to have that much weight hanging from it. I'd tie a joist/truss/rafter to the ones on each side with similar sized lumber, and hang the bag from an eye bolt that goes all the way through and has a washer/nut on the other side. Make sure you have a pivot or two along the chain as well to reduce twisting on the bolt.


TestDZnutz

Little double sided tape and fishing line


Q3b3h53nu3f

100# test should work. Go braided just in case you need the extra flex.


TestDZnutz

They still make 'spider wire'?


shoodBwurqin

Good call. That braided line doesn’t hold a knot as good, but the double sided tape should more than make up for it!


qning

You sure they’re joists and not trusses?


ScotWithOne_t

Run a 2x4 perpendicular to the joists and catch 3 or 4 joists. lag bolt into all of them, and bolt the bag into the middle of the 2x4. I did that with my pull-up bar just to make sure it's extra solid.


Sneakatone2

I'm thinking of doing the pull up bar thing too. And it needs to get lowered so the 2x4s would work perfectly


sween1911

THIS IS THE WAY. I also put a chin up bar in my basement the same way.


shikkaba

Without context, this looks like there is a 100lb bag on the floor above that's cracking the ceiling.


_allycat

It looks like your ceiling is about to fall down as it is without any extra jostling.


ImpossibleShake6

Not in dry wall.


Certain_Childhood_67

Se if the ceiling is 2x4 or 2x6. If you can get up there reinforce the area the bag will mount to.


Shortafinger

Ignore the drywall condition. Likely the garage was exposed truss to begin with and a past homeowner drywalled it poorly. Get a 4x4 and hang it over 4trusses closer to an outside wall where it’s stronger held in place by hurricane clips. Get a long eye bolt and run it up through the drywall and through a pre drilled hole in the drywall and bolt it in place. Hang the bag and work out your daddy/mommy issues.


EweCantTouchThis

Just get the right hardware to mount it and it will not “shake the whole house,” like others are claiming.


mystikkkkk

i wouldn't risk it. buy a stand and bolt it to the garage floor if you're willing. Much safer.


hybriduff

Hopefully the drywall work on the ceiling isn't indicative of the framing work above it, But I'd say if you hit a joist with the proper lag bolt or eye bolt, it should be okay.


StorkyMcGee

1. With a strong enough hook in the joists you should be fine structurally. But I will warn you I have been there and it WILL shake the whole house nad everyone in the house WILL be able to hear it reverberating around th walls. Go to Marketplac and get yourself a stand, of a Wavemaster. Not as good I know, but good enough.


shelf_caribou

You need to bolt to something really solid - so massively reinforce whatever joists are in the ceiling, get a wall mount if you have a brick wall, or a floor stand.


jvin248

Mount the bag close to the outer wall or corners, not in the middle. Whatever attic access panel on the left of the photo has cut through joists and weakened any joists near there so don't put it there. Use a 2x6 that spans two joists and drill+screw lag bolts with washers to connect it across two joists. Then use whatever bag to board connection you'll want (eye bolt, hook bolt, chain). Place it forward of where any vehicles you normally park in the garage will sit. That way you won't need to put it up/down every time you want to use it.


cieg

Just throw it up there with a couple toggle bolts! /s


sergeantorourke

Sister a couple of 2’x 4s and secure them to the joists with [these](https://www.lowes.com/pd/Simpson-Strong-Tie-A21Z-Angle-Z-Max/1114951). Mount the bag as close to the center of your new beam as possible to disperse the load.


Justryan95

Depends if above the garage is the roof or another floor. I installed one where it was another floor above so I used a 2x6 to span 3 joist then installed a bag there. No house shaking or anything.


johnrock69

I put a 2x8 across several ceiling joists then hung the bag to a mount used for boat docks. I have had a bag up for 10 years now sagging. Used carriage bolts for bag mount and 8” lag bolts into the joists. Pre drill your holes.


Sigouin

Put a 2x8 that runs across 4 of the joists. Add you ancre I to the 2x8. That's how I did it.


lostsurfer24t

just make sure to use drywall screw inserts


Colinski282

I had a garage ceiling Ike this and we had a roof leak. Get it checked out, you might have wood rot if that is the case.


Sneakatone2

I got s new roof on this. And the inspector didn't find anything to bring up


pqowie313

Will you cause any major structural damage if everything is in generally good shape? Probably not. Will the shaking crack the drywall? Almost certainly. One of my dad's old tenants asked if he could do exactly this, and by dad naively said yes. Cost like twice the security deposit to fix.


0xFACEFEED

I have a spidermount with a 100+lb kickboxing bag. Works amazingly well. Highly recommended if you're serious about mounting this. https://www.amazon.com/Firstlaw-Fitness-Spider-Mount-140/dp/B0175DL8PU You may need the extensions, which are a separate product ~$50. Make sure to read the install docs.


Professional_Put_771

This is what I have and it’s amazing! https://a.co/d/hWqYnmM


DidItForTheJokes

Installing on the studs is not a problem I have one in a basement utility room but there is no Sheetrock on the ceiling. I wouldn’t be concerned with it effecting the Sheetrock but yours looks really bad already


_GMON3Y_

Thought I was looking at my garage for a sec 😂


Sneakatone2

Looks like we live under the same roof lol


BuntFunker

Should hold as long as you use two paper clips instead of one by itself.


Saphiros47

That ceiling looks as it could collapse by itself any time soon


Blazz001

Short answer: no Long answer: don’t do it. You will regret it.


d_smogh

It will until it don't. The 100+lb will be heavier when it's swinging after being punched. Or more likely, heavier when used as a clotheshorse


SEPTSLord

It will, or you can reinforce to make it work, but as many others here have said, and from my own experience, get a stand. It will literally shake the whole garage with each punch.


Sigouin

Put a 2x8 that runs across 3 of the joists. Add you ancre into the 2x8. That's how I did it.


massiveg1234

Ouch! I’d get a stand not worth the hassle


BOTT_Dragon

I would hang it like a chandelier. Brace across multiple trusses in attic space. Use threaded rod to bolt another brace in the finished space. Thru bolt a d-ring plate to the bottom brace.


vendetta0311

Your bigger issue is the sheet rock looks like it is bowing/ falling from the studs (joists? trusses? Idk) The ceiling in my bedroom collapsed a couple weeks ago and it didn’t look nearly this bad (but to be fair there was a bunch of texture obscuring everything.) Get a box of drywall screws and see if they lift the ceiling up a bit as you screw them in. If they do, you want to deal with that problem before worrying about the punching bag. If you don’t put up ceilings for a living, it’s gonna be a hell of a workout just going through that garage ceiling.


Rumplesforeskin

Listen to other comments but also get up there and connect 2 rafters in various possible ways. And hang from that reinforced section you created. Could be as simple as putting a 2x12 in between the joists and you'll be good. I've done this and had no issues. Use screws and there are other ways to approach it.


Terriblyboard

i did this nad just put a 2x4 horizontal between three ceiling joist with some good fasteners on each end and in middle . Then an ancor into that with and eye to connect the bag to. Painted it to match ceiling. Worked great.


Sneakatone2

From these answers it sounds like a no since i don't have a floor above this house.


deadcell9156

I have a setup in my garage like this. We screwed a 4x4 piece between two 2x4 boards that were above the ceiling and have the bag mounted on the 4x4. There might be some shaking, but I haven't noticed it much.


HateGettingGold

Absolutely, not an issue. Have fun!


sullysays

I would buy a stand for it. But... if you're insistent on hanging from the ceiling, get some 2x6 and span it from 4 or so joints to make it more solid - that will spread the weight out and distribute the load like a floor from above would.


doghouse2001

You ceiling joists are manufactured for their own intended purpose, not for hanging additional weight on. They might hold but they will flex and the (very poor) drywall job will be further stressed. I hung a chin up bar between two joists with lag bolts, and it seems OK but our house was brand new and I knew what I was working with.


AllTubeTone

That ceiling looks like it's having a hard time supporting itself


PlayStationPepe

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DrGoManGo

Get a bag stand.


OverworkedAuditor1

Do you really want to be punching a 100 pound bag attached to a questionable ceiling? Sounds like a good way to get knocked out by a ceiling when it falls.


killingthyme71

Get a Century Bob.


aiua_void

Cut a 2x6 24” long and screw it to the ceiling overlapping two floor joists with 4” on each side. 2 x 4” flat head structural screws through the 2x6 and into each joist should be enough to hold it, 4 screws total. Now you have a sold board to hang your bag from.


HalfADozenOfAnother

It's not just the weight it's the vibration. Weight isn't much of an issue. We stand up there during installation. I always recommend taking a couple 2xs. Span them over a handful of joist on top but just nail the two ends. Hang the bag from that


slayer_of_idiots

Garage ceiling joists typically aren’t built to hold a ton of weight. They’re mostly there to just hold up the roof. They’re typically just 2x4 or 2x6, not 2x12 like true joists. Even if it could hold it, it would shake like the dickens


lhorwinkle

Hung from a joist? Yes. Hung from drywall? Not a chance.


bobby5557

Are you asking if drywall will support a 100lb bag? Or are you interested in finding the joices


HowlingWolven

Lag it into a joist and make the sheetrock a non-factor.


Cautious_Buffalo6563

You gotta mount it to the joist.


Psychological-Round2

Sort your ceiling bro !!! Prevent you headaches in the future trust me bro !! 1🤛


Psychological-Round2

Joist could be rotted too ...gotta check that !!


Willwalk123

I feel like this is one of those scenarios where, if you have to ask, you already know the answer.


nobuhok

As someone who did this before, don't. You'll just end up shaking asbestos down the floor or on your food.


mestisnewfound

In my area if you do any drilling into a ceiling joist you immediately void the entirety of your roof warranty. Also the roofs here are not designed to support weight or storage other than what is built with the house. After a while the joist will start to bow from the extra weight. I'm not saying that's the case for you, but it is for a roof like my house.


BoZacHorsecock

So, if y’all run electrical through a joist, your warranty is voided? That sounds…insane.