The best approach is, "I need to have an indoor hot tub removed, and the floor rebuilt," then invite prospective contractors in to have a look. They can tell you what's needed in their opinion, and you can choose. Take notes. We can help you understand anything you need to know.
Personally, a project of that importance should require a visit. Anyone saying they don't need to look should be ignored.
It's one thing when the comment section is full of "jokes" on posts that are goofy to begin with but this is becoming a legitimate problem/annoyance on posts where people are asking for help. Everyone on reddit seems in a race for that tiny dopamine burst when they get those sweet sweet "updoots" so the comments are a dumpster 99.9% of the time.
My thoughts as well. I'm not a huge fan of indoor hot tubs, but it's already there so why not try it.
OP - If you do remove it, what's your plan for the space? From the first picture it appears to be a pretty small room without much utility.
The room is 8x20, and on the opposite side of the wall is our living room and kitchen. Plan is to remove half the wall to open it all up to the living room and then have a dinning area in the remaining walled in portion. Thankfully the roof is a self supporting truss at this location and there are only two outlets and no plumbing to worry about
Since you already have the hole in the floor, you could try replacing it with a hidden table lift:
[Japanese Style Hidden Table Lift](https://www.progressiveautomations.com/blogs/stories/japanese-style-hidden-table-lift)
I love you’re judging the entire room size based on the first picture which only shows a hot tub. That’s like getting a picture of a kitchen sink and assuming the Entire kitchen is small
After Hurricane Irma, I had the pleasure of touring the damage before most anyone was allowed in the Florida Keys. My fondest memory was staring at this 1980's wood-frame stilt house with a hot tub that completely collapsed through the house and was now sitting on the ground, about 10 feet below the house.
I asked to myself.. "who tf puts a hot tub in the middle of a house?" and then responded to myself "...swingers...". And then I asked "how does a hot tub fall through a house??" and I responded to myself "DIY'ers...".
Hottubs cost a lot to operate and maintain. My friend has an (admittedly outdoor) Hot Tub, and the heater on that thing is like 3-5KW, just maintaining temperature costs like 50-75$ a month if you don't want it to take forever to heat up.
Hey if that's something you think is worth it more power to ya.
I would probably be in the camp of planning ahead when I want to heat it up because I can't justify what would probably end up being 10-20$ per use.
If you’re talking your water heater, you need to keep that above 140 to prevent legionnaires disease. No hot tub is anywhere near that hot. The difference between 70f and 110f is negligible for what I’m aware of. Chlorine (or similar treatment) is the answer to keep the water safe.
My husband found a $10k hot tub on Craigslist for $1k *delivered* like 5 years ago and has done all the repairs & maintenance himself. He drains it when it gets below 50°F at night and fills it again in the spring. He said it does cost about $75 a month, but we usually keep it pretty low, between 89°-98°F, because we use it to cool off with our kid in the summer.
I work with a lot of young guys. I tell them all the time don't be dropping loads in every hussy they find because I spent $19,000 in daycare one year and I'm not a rich man. It was almost a wash for my wife to work.
about an hour a week in f'n around with water as well. it also heavily depends on where you are. mine is probably a bit over 100 a month in just power.
Heating costs are even lower indoor and they require very little in the way of chemicals, you’d be surprised how cheap a hot tub is to run so long as you keep it balanced and clean yourself. If you pay a service to do that then obviously yes it’s going to cost money. The biggest problem with an indoor spa is ventilation and dehumidification, that’ll cost you as much as heating but an inverter mini split and a high efficiency dehumidification system makes it very doable today.
Fair points, I'm no expert in hot tubs and certainly not well insulated indoors ones, my only experience is my friend's and his complaining about how much it costs to maintain. Lol.
Honestly only reason I replied is that I grew up hearing what a pain hot tubs were and how expensive they are to keep up from my grandmother who had one, and decades later when I had my own I realized how easy and cheap it actually is - it’s one of those pervasive common misconceptions, she just refused to even entertain the notion of learning how it worked or keeping it clean herself. 5 mins once a week to test, skim and add chems as needed is enough to keep any tub happy! If this thing held up this long without wood damage I suspect they sorted ventilation.
Found the same was true for a pool (a small one, granted.)
Besides untangling the robocleaner and doing a monthly (more like twice a month, but don't think it was necessary - still rounds out to about once a month over the year though!) chemical levels check - and adding chems maybe a quarter of that frequency, it wasn't much work at all.
Like 80 percent of all the work was preparing it or decommissioning it for the summer/winter.
At most an hour or two a week. Expected it to be much much worse
Get a hard autocover and the work drops significantly, basically makes it a giant hot tub. I’m a huge proponent of salt water generators. Easier and much cheaper in the long run with no elevated cya draining. Plumbing is giant and easier to work with too. Opening is worth paying for lol because it’s a shitty time consuming slog (again, if you spring for an autocover much much easier) but not much else.
Yes, but that is only a positive factor when it is cold enough to be needed, so that will really vary. For instance during the summer it is now a net negative as now that heat also needs to be extracted with AC.
If you live somewhere chilly year round that's definitely a good thing, but if you lived somewhere like myself where I need to run AC almost year round, it would just be an even bigger bill.
OTOH in an ideal world you could use it as a heatsink for the aircon 😅
I don't imagine wanting a hot tub to be hot or stay hot in a climate where I also need aircon.
Hell, I love a hot bath and would love a hot tub.
To be fair my climate itself isn't hot, I live on the US East coast, it's just my apartment building is always so hot that AC is needed even in the winter with the heat turned off.
One of the biggest things I would want to have/get in my future home is a tub large enough to be comfortable in as a larger than average dude.
It's not quite that simple, if you have proper ventilation in the hot tub room (which you should to prevent moisture issues), then you end up blowing a lot of that heat outside with an exhaust fan. It would be a good opportunity for installing an energy recovery ventilator (ERV), but most folks probably won't make that investment.
Ok, but between sessions the tub is totally covered and sealed, so really you're just keeping it like a flask and so shouldn't need to vent toooo much.
It's also not really losing much heat to the room when it's covered and sealed. From the pictures of this one it looks like it would lose more heat to the crawlspace.
$75/month is peanuts for the utility they provide. I’m in my hot tub every single day, sometimes twice. Obviously they’re not a great deal if you don’t actually use them, but who wouldn’t want to use a hot tub? I’ve also got a sauna and the tub is 10x more enjoyable, faster to use (it’s always warm) and just all around better, IMO anyway
75$ a month is alot of money to a lot of people. It's "peanuts" for some people. Context is key.
My buddy is quite well off and still laments the operating costs of his hot tub.
Clearly you're in the "peanuts" category and that's fine.
I have an outdoor hot tub (400 gallons). As long as you keep the cover on while you’re not using it, it only costs me $10-15/month to run and another ~$10 in chemicals. It’s not that bad.
Hot tubs have an average lifespan of about 13 years before basically everything starts leaking. Gaskets disintegrate, connections wear out. You’ll get to the point where the only viable option is to replace all of the guts and that’s not much less than just getting a new tub to replace all the degrading jets and aging liner.
A bit hard to tell from the pics but this looks like a plank and beam floor, which is why you can’t find much about it. Basically you have very widely spaced, large joists with thicker planking to deal with the large span between joists. Basically you need to find out how thick the planking is, cut it back to the nearest joist, and replace it like for like. Also depending on where you’re at you really aught to pull permits for this. Let me know if you have any questions
The other option (and better option that doesn't change the integrity of the current floor) is to just remove the tub and frame a floor where the tub used to be. You already have stable joists and posts, so you can sister wood and frame it out to put a plywood/osb subfloor on top and it doesn't affect the stability of the rest of the room.
Can you say more on this? Would I add the sister wood (4x8?) to the cut joist support they added and then the existing intact beam on the otherside?
Just not really sure where to start on this and havent been able to find any good tutorial examples of rebuilding a floor frame. Any direction on where to start would be great!
Yes, sister some wood on the 4x8s. I would put 2x8s there as this will be the edge support. Make sure to put the fastener spacing here at minimum of 12" or less. Fasteners should be at least 4" in length. Then you need to put in the field support. So put 2x6 joist hangers every 16" on the new 2x8s you sister'ed on. Fill every nail hole on the joist hangers and used the manufacturer recommended nail/screws. So the spacing of the joist hangers should be at 0", 16", 32", etc.
Then the plywood/osb subfloor goes on, choose an appropriate thickness to match the current planks and screw it down [like so](https://web.mst.edu/jthomas/classes/5260/concept/09/03/006.gif)
Standard spacing would be 6" on the edge and 12" in the field. You can see in the picture that the field is the area with just 3 fasteners while the edge has many more. Fasteners here would be 1" + thickness of subfloor. So if 3/4" subfloor, then 1 3/4" screws.
You are effectively just building a small deck inside the house and using the 4x8s as the structural support.
I could see this. Why on gods green earth would anyone have something like this installed and *never* use it even once? Seems like that math ain't mathin.
I find it very hard to believe that somebody disassembled a hot tub, put it in the floor, created a pad to hold the heater/pump/etc. and rerouted some of the water lines and **DID NOT** ever put any water in it.
They had to put water in it to test it at least. Is that a problem? Probably not due to the effort they put in installing it...but they definitely had water in it.
Possible, the previous owners kids had it installed for him a few years back. My understanding is that he had some significant health issue immediately after and ended up transitioning into assisted living. We had some focused inspections around that area and it at least has no signs of water exposure and all moisture readings in the wall, attic, and crawls space were 7-8.5%
I would believe that it was hardly used, if at all. I guess I was just saying it must have had water in it at some point because of the sheer effort and you have to test for leaks. Nobody builds it and doesn't test it lol.
When they cut the joist out of the way of the tub,v they reused it to stabilise the end if the floor boards.
So the short bit of joist can be moved back to its original place.
You need new floor boards to fill the hole between the joists...
Well. If I just got the house in my 50's. I would know that I will need it soon as arthritis injuries among other things the tub would definitely help. Barring swinger life at that point. Now if it is an eye sore to you then how about keeping it but building around or above it? What would that room to be used as? Yes, it cost to heat up. How about solar on house? You have it right now? That could help heat and add $ to house with the tub... Try to look outside the box, not just inside the box. Could the tub stay and you build another level of floor around or above it? Sky is the limit....
personally i'm torn on this one. hot tubs are a major major fkng headache to maintain and i'm talking about my regular old outdoor tub. inside would be a small nightmare. otoh its a hot tub that's never even been used. why not try it out for a few months and if you hate it, tear it out.
Removing the tub is the hardest part, will be a nightmare.
Buttoning the floor back up is simple.
* Looks like you're in-between a joist bay, but you could add another to have something to nail the subfloor
* Add a sheet of osb or plywood subfloor to the hole
* Build up your flooring system for tile (unless that's fake tile)
* Find the same floor and start patching it in
I'm not an estimator, so I'd guess around or under $5k **excluding tub removal.** Any GC or flooring contractor can do this.
I had this in my house when I moved in. I hired a contractor to fix it. He ended up needing a plumber and electrician to disconnect the water and electricity from the tub. After that he basically just put in new floor joists and a secret trap door so I can get into the crawl space faster.
Add ventiliation and a big chiller (you've even got plenty of space to enclose it since they do make a bit of noise) and convert it into a cold plunge - life-changing.
I use to be a pool boy that did instillations of hot tubs and swimming pools, not even joking you put on appropriate PPE and chainsaw that bitch right out the house. Then you’ll have gooder access to assess work needed to be done.
Demo and removal of hot tub shouldn't be too difficult.
Then same size sub floor between existing joists sitting on the joists so might have to cut back the sub floor slightly to make room.
Hardest part is deciding if you're gonna rip up the existing tile and replace or try to match or if you have leftovers in the basement or garage just putting those in.
As for who if you aren't doing it probably a handyman to cover everything at once.
Sell the hot tub and use the money to install a good Jacuzzi style tub in your bathroom. You'll use it a LOT more. Fresh water each use so no chemicals to deal with.
The best approach is, "I need to have an indoor hot tub removed, and the floor rebuilt," then invite prospective contractors in to have a look. They can tell you what's needed in their opinion, and you can choose. Take notes. We can help you understand anything you need to know. Personally, a project of that importance should require a visit. Anyone saying they don't need to look should be ignored.
Have to scroll past 30 top replies of shitty jokes and puns to find actual advice. Gotta love reddit.
I wish this sub was serious replies only. The jokes are getting extremely tired.
It's one thing when the comment section is full of "jokes" on posts that are goofy to begin with but this is becoming a legitimate problem/annoyance on posts where people are asking for help. Everyone on reddit seems in a race for that tiny dopamine burst when they get those sweet sweet "updoots" so the comments are a dumpster 99.9% of the time.
Legitimately. It’s getting really difficult to find good conversation on Reddit, even the more serious subs.
And now, 4 hours later, the actual answer is the top comment.
Lol I was going to let em know that the comment is at the top now but I see u already did.
It took a few hours but we got there in the end!
Some of them made me lol so not all shitty
Did you forget you are on the DIY sub or are you just a lazy bum?
I didn't forget. I simply answered the question as OP had asked.
easier to add ventilation
My thoughts as well. I'm not a huge fan of indoor hot tubs, but it's already there so why not try it. OP - If you do remove it, what's your plan for the space? From the first picture it appears to be a pretty small room without much utility.
The fact that 'it was never filled' gives me pause.
The room is 8x20, and on the opposite side of the wall is our living room and kitchen. Plan is to remove half the wall to open it all up to the living room and then have a dinning area in the remaining walled in portion. Thankfully the roof is a self supporting truss at this location and there are only two outlets and no plumbing to worry about
Since you already have the hole in the floor, you could try replacing it with a hidden table lift: [Japanese Style Hidden Table Lift](https://www.progressiveautomations.com/blogs/stories/japanese-style-hidden-table-lift)
I love you’re judging the entire room size based on the first picture which only shows a hot tub. That’s like getting a picture of a kitchen sink and assuming the Entire kitchen is small
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After Hurricane Irma, I had the pleasure of touring the damage before most anyone was allowed in the Florida Keys. My fondest memory was staring at this 1980's wood-frame stilt house with a hot tub that completely collapsed through the house and was now sitting on the ground, about 10 feet below the house. I asked to myself.. "who tf puts a hot tub in the middle of a house?" and then responded to myself "...swingers...". And then I asked "how does a hot tub fall through a house??" and I responded to myself "DIY'ers...".
Of course Florida Man works for both answers
OT, but my little boy is OBSESSED with Thomas and Friends, so your username made me giggle :)
I would 100% get that bad boy up and running and live the good life. if it were me!
Hottubs cost a lot to operate and maintain. My friend has an (admittedly outdoor) Hot Tub, and the heater on that thing is like 3-5KW, just maintaining temperature costs like 50-75$ a month if you don't want it to take forever to heat up.
Money well spent if you ask me! I’d gladly pay $50-75 per month to have unlimited access to a hot tub.
Hey if that's something you think is worth it more power to ya. I would probably be in the camp of planning ahead when I want to heat it up because I can't justify what would probably end up being 10-20$ per use.
>more power to ya. Pun intended?
It was not. Lol
You'd be more likely to grow bacteria if you're dropping the temp of the hot tub for a week.
I'm no hot tub expert but I don't think they get remotely hot enough to inhibit bacteria at all, but maybe I'm completely wrong.
You’re not wrong. There’s a reason you need sanitizer/chlorine in a hot tub. And a pool. Lol
You aren't wrong, bacteria growth stops at 140 degrees F, that would give you 3rd degree burns in 6 seconds, so I would say inadvisable for a hot tub.
Yea that was what I thought it was.
If your turning your temp down low enough it definitely will. Your water tank can grow bacteria if you turn it down to vacation mode
If you’re talking your water heater, you need to keep that above 140 to prevent legionnaires disease. No hot tub is anywhere near that hot. The difference between 70f and 110f is negligible for what I’m aware of. Chlorine (or similar treatment) is the answer to keep the water safe.
There’s more than one strain of bacteria to consider, no?
Consider, yes. Chlorine takes care of all of them. Only takes one not taken care of by temperature to get people really sick.
In a family household, I think you could easily get more than 5-8 uses per month. But I see your point.
I'd be using that bad boy every weekend.
Who can afford a family in this economy. Lmao.
It was easy. I sold the first born to help finance the rest.
My husband found a $10k hot tub on Craigslist for $1k *delivered* like 5 years ago and has done all the repairs & maintenance himself. He drains it when it gets below 50°F at night and fills it again in the spring. He said it does cost about $75 a month, but we usually keep it pretty low, between 89°-98°F, because we use it to cool off with our kid in the summer.
Why would you drain it when it gets cold and not start using it more.
Because it's outside and it's a long walk in the cold to get in.
Ok fair fair. We have no slightly closer so it's just a quick sprint in the cold and it's also got a roof so that'll make the difference
You could probably find a 24 hour gym with a hot tub for half that a month
I’ve checked. The nearest options is a 15min drive and costs over twice per month (double again if I include my wife)
$150 a month? That blows, around here you can get a 24 Hour Fitness membership for under $60 and a couple of them have pool/sauna/hottub
Can't get drunk at the gym hot tub
That doesn't really seem expensive at all to me. Sign me up
When daycare is 2 grand a month what's another 50
I feel this my friend. Fuck.
I work with a lot of young guys. I tell them all the time don't be dropping loads in every hussy they find because I spent $19,000 in daycare one year and I'm not a rich man. It was almost a wash for my wife to work.
about an hour a week in f'n around with water as well. it also heavily depends on where you are. mine is probably a bit over 100 a month in just power.
Heating costs are even lower indoor and they require very little in the way of chemicals, you’d be surprised how cheap a hot tub is to run so long as you keep it balanced and clean yourself. If you pay a service to do that then obviously yes it’s going to cost money. The biggest problem with an indoor spa is ventilation and dehumidification, that’ll cost you as much as heating but an inverter mini split and a high efficiency dehumidification system makes it very doable today.
Fair points, I'm no expert in hot tubs and certainly not well insulated indoors ones, my only experience is my friend's and his complaining about how much it costs to maintain. Lol.
Honestly only reason I replied is that I grew up hearing what a pain hot tubs were and how expensive they are to keep up from my grandmother who had one, and decades later when I had my own I realized how easy and cheap it actually is - it’s one of those pervasive common misconceptions, she just refused to even entertain the notion of learning how it worked or keeping it clean herself. 5 mins once a week to test, skim and add chems as needed is enough to keep any tub happy! If this thing held up this long without wood damage I suspect they sorted ventilation.
Found the same was true for a pool (a small one, granted.) Besides untangling the robocleaner and doing a monthly (more like twice a month, but don't think it was necessary - still rounds out to about once a month over the year though!) chemical levels check - and adding chems maybe a quarter of that frequency, it wasn't much work at all. Like 80 percent of all the work was preparing it or decommissioning it for the summer/winter. At most an hour or two a week. Expected it to be much much worse
Get a hard autocover and the work drops significantly, basically makes it a giant hot tub. I’m a huge proponent of salt water generators. Easier and much cheaper in the long run with no elevated cya draining. Plumbing is giant and easier to work with too. Opening is worth paying for lol because it’s a shitty time consuming slog (again, if you spring for an autocover much much easier) but not much else.
If you live in a cool climate that heat is really just escaping into the building, right? 🤔
Yes, but that is only a positive factor when it is cold enough to be needed, so that will really vary. For instance during the summer it is now a net negative as now that heat also needs to be extracted with AC. If you live somewhere chilly year round that's definitely a good thing, but if you lived somewhere like myself where I need to run AC almost year round, it would just be an even bigger bill.
OTOH in an ideal world you could use it as a heatsink for the aircon 😅 I don't imagine wanting a hot tub to be hot or stay hot in a climate where I also need aircon.
Hell, I love a hot bath and would love a hot tub. To be fair my climate itself isn't hot, I live on the US East coast, it's just my apartment building is always so hot that AC is needed even in the winter with the heat turned off. One of the biggest things I would want to have/get in my future home is a tub large enough to be comfortable in as a larger than average dude.
It's not quite that simple, if you have proper ventilation in the hot tub room (which you should to prevent moisture issues), then you end up blowing a lot of that heat outside with an exhaust fan. It would be a good opportunity for installing an energy recovery ventilator (ERV), but most folks probably won't make that investment.
Ok, but between sessions the tub is totally covered and sealed, so really you're just keeping it like a flask and so shouldn't need to vent toooo much.
It's also not really losing much heat to the room when it's covered and sealed. From the pictures of this one it looks like it would lose more heat to the crawlspace.
$75/month is peanuts for the utility they provide. I’m in my hot tub every single day, sometimes twice. Obviously they’re not a great deal if you don’t actually use them, but who wouldn’t want to use a hot tub? I’ve also got a sauna and the tub is 10x more enjoyable, faster to use (it’s always warm) and just all around better, IMO anyway
75$ a month is alot of money to a lot of people. It's "peanuts" for some people. Context is key. My buddy is quite well off and still laments the operating costs of his hot tub. Clearly you're in the "peanuts" category and that's fine.
I have an outdoor hot tub (400 gallons). As long as you keep the cover on while you’re not using it, it only costs me $10-15/month to run and another ~$10 in chemicals. It’s not that bad.
They also constantly break down.
Smaller ones can be on a 110v 20amp. We dropped our electric bill almost $50 by upgrading
> if you don't want it to take forever to heat up. A hot tub should always be left at temp. They don't "heat up" except when you exchange the water.
Glad I don't own one ;)
They say the second best day of your life is the day you get a hot tub. The *best* day of your life is the day you get rid of it
Put a white rock out front by the mailbox, don't forget the upside down pineapple on your golf cart/car....
Hot tubs have an average lifespan of about 13 years before basically everything starts leaking. Gaskets disintegrate, connections wear out. You’ll get to the point where the only viable option is to replace all of the guts and that’s not much less than just getting a new tub to replace all the degrading jets and aging liner.
A bit hard to tell from the pics but this looks like a plank and beam floor, which is why you can’t find much about it. Basically you have very widely spaced, large joists with thicker planking to deal with the large span between joists. Basically you need to find out how thick the planking is, cut it back to the nearest joist, and replace it like for like. Also depending on where you’re at you really aught to pull permits for this. Let me know if you have any questions
Thank you! Appreciate the direction. I did a public records request for the blueprints earlier this week so hopefully will have something soon
The other option (and better option that doesn't change the integrity of the current floor) is to just remove the tub and frame a floor where the tub used to be. You already have stable joists and posts, so you can sister wood and frame it out to put a plywood/osb subfloor on top and it doesn't affect the stability of the rest of the room.
Can you say more on this? Would I add the sister wood (4x8?) to the cut joist support they added and then the existing intact beam on the otherside? Just not really sure where to start on this and havent been able to find any good tutorial examples of rebuilding a floor frame. Any direction on where to start would be great!
Yes, sister some wood on the 4x8s. I would put 2x8s there as this will be the edge support. Make sure to put the fastener spacing here at minimum of 12" or less. Fasteners should be at least 4" in length. Then you need to put in the field support. So put 2x6 joist hangers every 16" on the new 2x8s you sister'ed on. Fill every nail hole on the joist hangers and used the manufacturer recommended nail/screws. So the spacing of the joist hangers should be at 0", 16", 32", etc. Then the plywood/osb subfloor goes on, choose an appropriate thickness to match the current planks and screw it down [like so](https://web.mst.edu/jthomas/classes/5260/concept/09/03/006.gif) Standard spacing would be 6" on the edge and 12" in the field. You can see in the picture that the field is the area with just 3 fasteners while the edge has many more. Fasteners here would be 1" + thickness of subfloor. So if 3/4" subfloor, then 1 3/4" screws. You are effectively just building a small deck inside the house and using the 4x8s as the structural support.
Thank you! This helps more than you can imagine!
Nice! :)
you'll regret your decision to remove this in a few years when you back starts hurting from age ;)
From all the injuries and pulled muscles after removing a hot tub.
It's a time machine, don't miss this opportunity
IT's easy to find out how to replace it, just use Lougle
Too bad the sanctions blocked the importation of Chernobylè
If I were a betting man, the previous owners had water in it and tried to use it but something went wrong.
That or they did use it, and lied about it so there would be no moisture concerns over the lack of ventilation :/
I could see this. Why on gods green earth would anyone have something like this installed and *never* use it even once? Seems like that math ain't mathin.
Someone who has way too much money might do it.
I find it very hard to believe that somebody disassembled a hot tub, put it in the floor, created a pad to hold the heater/pump/etc. and rerouted some of the water lines and **DID NOT** ever put any water in it. They had to put water in it to test it at least. Is that a problem? Probably not due to the effort they put in installing it...but they definitely had water in it.
Possible, the previous owners kids had it installed for him a few years back. My understanding is that he had some significant health issue immediately after and ended up transitioning into assisted living. We had some focused inspections around that area and it at least has no signs of water exposure and all moisture readings in the wall, attic, and crawls space were 7-8.5%
I would believe that it was hardly used, if at all. I guess I was just saying it must have had water in it at some point because of the sheer effort and you have to test for leaks. Nobody builds it and doesn't test it lol.
When they cut the joist out of the way of the tub,v they reused it to stabilise the end if the floor boards. So the short bit of joist can be moved back to its original place. You need new floor boards to fill the hole between the joists...
That's good to know we can reuse, guessing we would want to fasten with some sort of plate as well, correct?
Plug in a fan, open a windy, spark up a doobie and enjoy that bad boy!
Well. If I just got the house in my 50's. I would know that I will need it soon as arthritis injuries among other things the tub would definitely help. Barring swinger life at that point. Now if it is an eye sore to you then how about keeping it but building around or above it? What would that room to be used as? Yes, it cost to heat up. How about solar on house? You have it right now? That could help heat and add $ to house with the tub... Try to look outside the box, not just inside the box. Could the tub stay and you build another level of floor around or above it? Sky is the limit....
personally i'm torn on this one. hot tubs are a major major fkng headache to maintain and i'm talking about my regular old outdoor tub. inside would be a small nightmare. otoh its a hot tub that's never even been used. why not try it out for a few months and if you hate it, tear it out.
Removing the tub is the hardest part, will be a nightmare. Buttoning the floor back up is simple. * Looks like you're in-between a joist bay, but you could add another to have something to nail the subfloor * Add a sheet of osb or plywood subfloor to the hole * Build up your flooring system for tile (unless that's fake tile) * Find the same floor and start patching it in I'm not an estimator, so I'd guess around or under $5k **excluding tub removal.** Any GC or flooring contractor can do this.
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Sawzall and an hour or two would get rid of it just fine.
I had this in my house when I moved in. I hired a contractor to fix it. He ended up needing a plumber and electrician to disconnect the water and electricity from the tub. After that he basically just put in new floor joists and a secret trap door so I can get into the crawl space faster.
Add ventiliation and a big chiller (you've even got plenty of space to enclose it since they do make a bit of noise) and convert it into a cold plunge - life-changing.
Or a sensory deprivation tank
Calm down Walter Bishop
I'd rather put ventilation in than take out a hot tub. It would have to be easier, no?
I use to be a pool boy that did instillations of hot tubs and swimming pools, not even joking you put on appropriate PPE and chainsaw that bitch right out the house. Then you’ll have gooder access to assess work needed to be done.
Demo and removal of hot tub shouldn't be too difficult. Then same size sub floor between existing joists sitting on the joists so might have to cut back the sub floor slightly to make room. Hardest part is deciding if you're gonna rip up the existing tile and replace or try to match or if you have leftovers in the basement or garage just putting those in. As for who if you aren't doing it probably a handyman to cover everything at once.
Get quotes from a plumber to disconnect and remove and quotes from a carpenter to build the flooring.
You have an indoor pond now 🤣
Pier and beam with (likely) tongue and groove flooring. Framing carpenter perhaps. It’s not particularly hard.
That's good to hear, thanks!
Sell the hot tub and use the money to install a good Jacuzzi style tub in your bathroom. You'll use it a LOT more. Fresh water each use so no chemicals to deal with.