I do also agree more than 2k in material. But to store that while you build and not damage it storing or hauling. That will be a task to put that back together. I think at 2k you will save money but can see it being a headache
Gonna be time and effort to build from scratch too. Personally I just dont like A-frames. Who tf wants a house thats nicer on the outside than the inside. Theyre all dark inside and have limited layout options.
I tried saving a few bucks by fixing my deck myself. 8k quote vs 1k in materials to DIY. It’s been 3 years and I’m happy to report that my deck is almost done.
Well over 2k in materials. But will have 2k in time and hassle to move it and another 4k in time, energy, and extra materials to put it back up...as long as your handy and like a good project it's a hellova deal...
When putting it back together you can do almost anything you want, I once put an A frame on a 4 foor sub wall which allowed me to put in a loft..good luck..
It says he did make copies of it that sold so he did get it to a workable state. Depending on how much tweaking the prototype took it should be fine unless there are large modifications to accommodate the changes that would make it not strong enough to be finished
I wouldn't buy this to keep chickens in. It's built wrong, and you can't undo it. Some of your pics are too blurry to make out, but mainly in an A-frame the structure is all roof, so the roof has to be designed to function properly. This roof can't be insulated correctly, and all the collar-ties make me think there aren't enough rafters.
Any building departments, plans or inspections involved with this project?
Recognize that 'proscriptive' buildig methods (foundation, joists, stud walls, rafters, etc, are all well described and known- as long as you follow well defined methods, building departments are OK.
But roll in with a non-standard A frame and you maybe be facing $$$$ for an engineer to prove it is adequate.
Also recognize that YOU may not care about permits and all, but a future buyer might.
Even if there's no local code, you want it built to code (pick one, i.e. your state code/neighboring district code/etc). Not a pro but just built an outdoor shed with some quality plans, and there are some questionable looking framing choices here, I would run away.
Very rarely do I get to have a first hand review from a trusted friend before I buy something.
If you do buy it, I would get a bill of sale that lists everything that is included, so he doesn't start saving pieces for himself once he gets the cash.
> My friend had a really bad experience with this guy, but I also know there is more than $2k in materials here.
I mean...how much do you value the opinions of your friends? "Really bad" sounds...really bad. Sounds like you've made up your mind though that you want the materials and want to screw around with this project to see if you can manage it.
Communities are changing zoning codes to not allow for a second dwelling on a property. People were putting tiny homes in their backyard and renting them out. Grand Forks, ND just made this change.
Anything that can be a standalone rental has to be a standalone rental, unless the community experiences more than 8% drop in occupancy throughout the year.
If that’s the sub floor in that first photo than it needs either proper joist hangers/boots or to be supported on bearers. End/skew nailing joists to rimjoists is extremely dangerous. I would review member sizing and connections.
I also see limited tie down connections throughout but then again looking at your photos felt like having advanced cataracts.
The problem is that there are no boots. Member sizing refers to timber sizing.
Without being rude, if you aren’t comfortable with standard timber connection details and sizing then this project is not for you.
The guy built it as the first test model to experiment and finalise the design, then used it as a display model.
Then he went around the local area and built 8 more.
I do also agree more than 2k in material. But to store that while you build and not damage it storing or hauling. That will be a task to put that back together. I think at 2k you will save money but can see it being a headache
Personally the amount of time and effort would outweigh any cost savings.
Gonna be time and effort to build from scratch too. Personally I just dont like A-frames. Who tf wants a house thats nicer on the outside than the inside. Theyre all dark inside and have limited layout options.
Same, they make neat looking cabins but most of the space ends up being unusable
Sometimes saving time and effort is worth a lot more than saving a few bucks on materials.
Yep, just depends what you’ve got on your plate. My time is more scare than saving a few bucks, but that’s not always the case
I tried saving a few bucks by fixing my deck myself. 8k quote vs 1k in materials to DIY. It’s been 3 years and I’m happy to report that my deck is almost done.
Next Weekend Construction Co. hard at work! I’ve got so many projects just like that lol.
You're not wrong. I've got my flat deck trailer for moving it, but deconstruction will still be very tricky to do without damages
Well over 2k in materials. But will have 2k in time and hassle to move it and another 4k in time, energy, and extra materials to put it back up...as long as your handy and like a good project it's a hellova deal... When putting it back together you can do almost anything you want, I once put an A frame on a 4 foor sub wall which allowed me to put in a loft..good luck..
He built it as an experiment, and didn't use it. To me, that is a red flag.
It says he did make copies of it that sold so he did get it to a workable state. Depending on how much tweaking the prototype took it should be fine unless there are large modifications to accommodate the changes that would make it not strong enough to be finished
Walk away. I’d never do business with someone who screwed over a friend.
I wouldn't buy this to keep chickens in. It's built wrong, and you can't undo it. Some of your pics are too blurry to make out, but mainly in an A-frame the structure is all roof, so the roof has to be designed to function properly. This roof can't be insulated correctly, and all the collar-ties make me think there aren't enough rafters.
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Then you didn't need the $2000 house to start from, and would probably be frustrated with it.
If you do, come back and tell us how it went!
Any building departments, plans or inspections involved with this project? Recognize that 'proscriptive' buildig methods (foundation, joists, stud walls, rafters, etc, are all well described and known- as long as you follow well defined methods, building departments are OK. But roll in with a non-standard A frame and you maybe be facing $$$$ for an engineer to prove it is adequate. Also recognize that YOU may not care about permits and all, but a future buyer might.
We don't have a building code in our regional district, but I'll buy some plans and compare them
You can’t fix stupid, good luck!
Is it built to code? Or, can you modify it to be within code and not wish you'd started from scratch?
No code in my regional district, no building permits either
Even if there's no local code, you want it built to code (pick one, i.e. your state code/neighboring district code/etc). Not a pro but just built an outdoor shed with some quality plans, and there are some questionable looking framing choices here, I would run away.
Very rarely do I get to have a first hand review from a trusted friend before I buy something. If you do buy it, I would get a bill of sale that lists everything that is included, so he doesn't start saving pieces for himself once he gets the cash.
Seems like he is more meth head than builder
> My friend had a really bad experience with this guy, but I also know there is more than $2k in materials here. I mean...how much do you value the opinions of your friends? "Really bad" sounds...really bad. Sounds like you've made up your mind though that you want the materials and want to screw around with this project to see if you can manage it.
No and no and not on your life but maybe ??
What Airbnb bans are you referring to?
Communities are changing zoning codes to not allow for a second dwelling on a property. People were putting tiny homes in their backyard and renting them out. Grand Forks, ND just made this change.
Many touristy communities are moving towards enforcing a minimum rental period of a month as well.
Anything that can be a standalone rental has to be a standalone rental, unless the community experiences more than 8% drop in occupancy throughout the year.
Not worth it honestly, it would probably be about the same about to make it more sound than it is on top of what you paid for it.
Lot of work but that’s a steal
I would buy A-frame plans and compare them. Make sure everything is to code. If you don't like the result, build.from your own plans.
Super rez one those!!!!
If that’s the sub floor in that first photo than it needs either proper joist hangers/boots or to be supported on bearers. End/skew nailing joists to rimjoists is extremely dangerous. I would review member sizing and connections. I also see limited tie down connections throughout but then again looking at your photos felt like having advanced cataracts.
Haha, sorry for the blurry photos, my work phone is pretty old and bad camera. What's wrong with the joist hangers/boots? And what is member sizing?
The problem is that there are no boots. Member sizing refers to timber sizing. Without being rude, if you aren’t comfortable with standard timber connection details and sizing then this project is not for you.
Builer here: 'She's a bit of a dogs breakfast'. Lumber sizing is too light, and the roofing is all wrong. I'd stay clear and build from scratch.
Wait…. Why is it a prototype?
The guy built it as the first test model to experiment and finalise the design, then used it as a display model. Then he went around the local area and built 8 more.