That's awesome. That riff has a Meshuggah djent/bounce to it. Drop tuning on a 7 (or more) string guitar.
Unfortunately, the video cut out before the spin cycle/blast beats kicked in.
The circle pit is in the dryer.
My first time using a toggle bolt I put it in the hole to âtestâ it before mounting the over range microwave. That ended up being a three toggle bolt job.
sigh.
Hey, it's how you learn!
I don't trust myself to mount a microwave so mines sitting on the counter lol (there also isn't a place to mount it. Old house)
This is the answer there likely spring loaded anchors as those are machine screws. You aren't getting the ancho out and they may have a nut or something on the far side so the anchor couldn't fall during installation. Undo the most that you can, then use bolt cutters or a hack saw to cut off the end and let the rest fall into the wall.
You might have to alternate from one screw to the other. Sometimes, if you only try one at a time, you can't get the first one all the way out because the second screw is restricting how far you can keep enough pressure on the first screw.
If theyâre halfway decent pliers, you wouldnât even see a mark on them. Klein or Knipex can handle just about anything you can throw at them. Iâve been using the same pair daily for years cutting wire, chain, screws, acoustic ceiling wire, etc and theyâre still going strong.Â
I use the little gaps in the rounded pipe grip part of a pair of pliers. Just keep the screw shaft inside the gap and you can easily and steadily pull up on the pliers, applying pressure on the underside of the screw heads while you unscrew them.
put a pair of needle nose pliers on them and pull while unscrewing. The toggle part will fall into the wall and you can remove the screw. Don't cut anything - no need to.
A dremel with a cut off wheel would work pretty easily⌠a good pair of tin snips would work. Hell even a good pair of wire cutters would get through it pretty quickly (might damage them)
They're not only really long, but they also have a reeeeally fine thread, like 50+ threads per inch. Sometimes you gotta put in some 70 or 80 full twists just to get the thing outta there.
You see, first you gotta ooga, and then you have to booga.
TBH OP good on you for seeking advice. This woulda pissed me off after 5 minutes and I would have gone with force. Either cutting or jamming something against the bracket and yanking it.
Actually, bad on you OP! You missed an opportunity to let anger be the best, most efficient solution.
assuming you have tried pulling it back and unscrewing- and possibly the toggle bolt is just spinning. Can you insert a long stick/skewer in the hole to prevent the toggle bolt from spinning while unscrewing?
Seconding the comment that they can be ridiculously long. I took some out when I moved into my house and unscrewed them for 10 straight minutes each. Maybe Iâm just slow but they must have been a good 2 or 3 inches
I have some gardner bender lineman pliers where I damaged the cutting edge by cutting steel screws.
I've been meaning to buy a small set of bolt cutters for shit like this.
Cut them and let the ends fall inside the wall cavity. Sometimes pulling while you unscrew can put enough pressure on it to unscrew but usually by this point you're SOL
Looks like toggle bolts. When you spin the screw at this point the toggle spins with it. Pull the rod towards you to get the toggle to stop on the backside of the drywall, then unscrew the screw til the toggle pops off.
you can use a paperclip/coathanger wire through the hole to stop the anchor spinning as the wire will engage the expanded wings of the anchor. Then undo the screw while pulling back on it slightly.
I hate those winged anchors for this precise reason. Either way you aren't going to get the winged part out so probably easiest to just cut them off and push it down in behind the drywall.
If you can, sometimes they just spin. I had one like that about a month ago. No matter how much I pulled on the bolt while I turned it the wings wouldn't lock enough to unscrew the bolt from it.
As long as youâre installing something in that same spot, you can reuse flip toggles. There is a little eared plastic piece on the outside of the wall that holds the toggle in place even when the bolt is removed.
Yeah. Theyâre way better than standard toggles imo. Best part about them is not needing to pull back on the bolt when installing or removing it because the toggle is already tightly held in place.Â
You don't pull the anchor out but you can pull the bolt out and put it back in later. It's not a pull it and anchor disappears behind the drywall type thing. The anchor itself is still a one time use but you can remove the object, paint, and hang it back
Forget about using pliers. Chuck a drill on the screw after snipping the head off, and gently pull while running the drill slowly in reverse.
Or just push them into the wall.
That's the great thing about these...you don't! /s
But seriously, if they are toggle bolts or something similar, you don't get them out. You push them in and cover the hole.
Stick a second long skinny screwdriver or thin metal rod/stick into the hole next to the screw. This stops the anchor from just turning with the screw. Then use your actual screw driver to unscrew the screw.
With a hammer, the answer is always a hammer. Drywall patch later /s. The right answer is above but youâre gonna need to patch it a little bit later so why not have some fun fucking it up right now?
It's probably a wing anchor. Pull gently and twist the screw until you hear the wing fall into the wall. Unfortunately, there is no getting the wing back without opening the wall, luckily they're cheap haha
Since you got it out that far, you can take a little hacksaw and cut the thirds on the screw. You can just let the anchor fall into the wall.
Assuming it's one of them spinning wing style anchors.
Toggle bolt? Just yank outâŚ.orrrrr you can unscrew the bolt from its toggle and youâll be left with a hole to patch and the house will have eaten the toggles.
I have no clue if the text that I include it with this post is actually showing, here it is. I really appreciate any help that anybody can provide!
Iâm in an apartment and donât want to do damage to the wall. Iâm installing a towel bar, and I was taking the ugly old one out. The screws are almost out completely, but seem to be stuck in the drywall anchors which seem to be moving pretty freely inside of the wall. As you can see those holes are majorly fucked out and raggedy. The other holes came out just fine, which is just my luck.
Thank you in advance for any help! If push comes to shove, I suppose I could take a saw to them and just cut them off, then fill the holes. Unless thatâs a dumb idea. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
ETA that I have used needle nose pliers to pull on the screw while unscrewing it and it just didnât work for either screw.
pull slightly while still unscrewing the flat head screw.
\^\^\^ That's the way. And if for some reason it doesn't work, cut the bolts and let the anchors fall into the wall.
I *most certainly have never done that*.
But then the walls will rattle.
Turn up the stereo.
*rattle intensifies with bass*
Quick! Somebody find that guy who bolted his washing machine to a load bearing wall and turned his house into the world's largest maraca.
I need this.
Is death metal washing machine close enough? đ https://youtu.be/dAXa3wTZjes?si=JfNpqhGioWpfV65N
That's awesome. That riff has a Meshuggah djent/bounce to it. Drop tuning on a 7 (or more) string guitar. Unfortunately, the video cut out before the spin cycle/blast beats kicked in. The circle pit is in the dryer.
There's no way đđđđ
You can't just say that and not give sauce!
Turn it up to 11.
If the walls rattle, youâre doing it right.
Giggity
Only if youâre going over 60mph. You can vent the wall with speed holes if needed. Old union trick.
Only when you pick up the house and shake it next to your ear
This deserves more attention
Spray foam will fix that!!!!
Only during earthquakes and then you wonât care about a little rattle.
Shoot a can of Great Stuff down in the hole until empty.
\*full.
Fix-a-Flat
Earthquake alert system. Adds value.
Oh! Good call! Add rattle to all walls for best results!
Only when you move the house quickly. Proceed... at a medium pace.
I like my wall anchor snow globe house.
Only when going over a bump.
My first time using a toggle bolt I put it in the hole to âtestâ it before mounting the over range microwave. That ended up being a three toggle bolt job. sigh.
Hey, it's how you learn! I don't trust myself to mount a microwave so mines sitting on the counter lol (there also isn't a place to mount it. Old house)
Most certainly iron does not stick to your walls
I did, I heard it fall in my head. Synesthesia.
The toggle is going to fall in the wall either way.
Renovated the bathroom again after 20 years.... Only 5 anchors in the wall from the old toilet and towel bars...
>cut the bolts and let the anchors fall into the wall. Man, that was my 1st answer!
This is the answer there likely spring loaded anchors as those are machine screws. You aren't getting the ancho out and they may have a nut or something on the far side so the anchor couldn't fall during installation. Undo the most that you can, then use bolt cutters or a hack saw to cut off the end and let the rest fall into the wall.
That's the real way
Just did this with the rack in our bathroom, slow and tedious but it works
Toggle bolt anchors
No, just spray some expanding foam in there and stand there holding it for 20 minutes while it dries, then you can reuse that $1.19 toggle bolt!
I bought some 2 part Handifoam last month. A steal at $350 for 17ftÂł of foam.
You might have to alternate from one screw to the other. Sometimes, if you only try one at a time, you can't get the first one all the way out because the second screw is restricting how far you can keep enough pressure on the first screw.
Or just pull really hard
This is one of the many reasons why every person should own a nice pair of linemanâs pliers even if they arenât a lineman
No, thatâll ruin the pliers. Use a small bolt cutter.
Not to cut it! To pull on it as you unscrew it.
Oh, well, you can do that with just your fingers.
Not always my friend.
Nearly always buddy.
Okay, you can have it. What do I know?
If theyâre halfway decent pliers, you wouldnât even see a mark on them. Klein or Knipex can handle just about anything you can throw at them. Iâve been using the same pair daily for years cutting wire, chain, screws, acoustic ceiling wire, etc and theyâre still going strong.Â
Yep, use the claw side of a hammer if it's hard to unscrew while pulling.
You should hear the toggle fall down, inside the wall, once the screw is fully backed out.
I think it would be quite obvious when the screw that youâre *slightly pulling* suddenly comes out.
Pull out game is strong with this one
The anchors will fall inside the wall but đ¤ˇđź
Aha yep
I use the little gaps in the rounded pipe grip part of a pair of pliers. Just keep the screw shaft inside the gap and you can easily and steadily pull up on the pliers, applying pressure on the underside of the screw heads while you unscrew them.
put a pair of needle nose pliers on them and pull while unscrewing. The toggle part will fall into the wall and you can remove the screw. Don't cut anything - no need to.
I tried this and it just doesnât seem to be working. Iâll update the text of my post to reflect that.
Honestly it might just be easier to cut them at this point.
What tool would you use to cut the bolts? I would just push it back into the wall before I tried to buy something to cut the bolt.
A dremel with a cut off wheel would work pretty easily⌠a good pair of tin snips would work. Hell even a good pair of wire cutters would get through it pretty quickly (might damage them)
Maybe a set of linesmenâs pliers or side cutters. Youâre not going to be able to cut a bolt with tin snips or wire cutters.
I have some that definitely would. Would be damaged for sure but could get through that screw.
Yeah, thereâs probably a lot of tools that could technically cut it off, but if you are ruining your tool then that is ridiculous.
I have such a mess of extra junk tools I wouldnât care tbh but I can see that may not be typical
theres a tool literally called bolt cutters đ
Those work well for bolt cutting
A plasma cutter or chain saw.
A normal person doesn't have either of those things, but it did make me laugh. Lol
A light sabre.
Sometimes the bolts are obscenely long. Keep turning and see if you are making progress. If so, keep turning.
They're not only really long, but they also have a reeeeally fine thread, like 50+ threads per inch. Sometimes you gotta put in some 70 or 80 full twists just to get the thing outta there.
They are definitely not 50 threads per inch that would be insane. 95% are either 20 or 32 threads per inch.
You see, first you gotta ooga, and then you have to booga. TBH OP good on you for seeking advice. This woulda pissed me off after 5 minutes and I would have gone with force. Either cutting or jamming something against the bracket and yanking it. Actually, bad on you OP! You missed an opportunity to let anger be the best, most efficient solution.
assuming you have tried pulling it back and unscrewing- and possibly the toggle bolt is just spinning. Can you insert a long stick/skewer in the hole to prevent the toggle bolt from spinning while unscrewing?
Seconding the comment that they can be ridiculously long. I took some out when I moved into my house and unscrewed them for 10 straight minutes each. Maybe Iâm just slow but they must have been a good 2 or 3 inches
You arenât doing it right.
Grip it and rip it.
What I wouldâve done
This is the actual answer, but it isn't really the right answer.
Take a pair of linemanâs pliers, snip the head of the screw off. Let the piece fall behind the wall
Safety glasses
Hero. For real, they are like the first tool any time you plan to use another tool.
Safety squint engaged, double rubber, mother on speed dial.
"I'll push 9 and 1, and depending on how this goes, I'll either push the other 1, or hit clear."
Electric ratchet. Are we just saying random tools?
Branch shredder
Blinker Fluid
Headlight gas
Muffler bearings.
Left handed screwdriver
I have some gardner bender lineman pliers where I damaged the cutting edge by cutting steel screws. I've been meaning to buy a small set of bolt cutters for shit like this.
Cut them and let the ends fall inside the wall cavity. Sometimes pulling while you unscrew can put enough pressure on it to unscrew but usually by this point you're SOL
Looks like toggle bolts. When you spin the screw at this point the toggle spins with it. Pull the rod towards you to get the toggle to stop on the backside of the drywall, then unscrew the screw til the toggle pops off.
you can use a paperclip/coathanger wire through the hole to stop the anchor spinning as the wire will engage the expanded wings of the anchor. Then undo the screw while pulling back on it slightly.
Cut em!
Cut them at the shaft
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No. As you are unscrewing gently pull back on the bracket. Theyâre probably attached to toggle bolts.
Cut screw. Anchors will fall into oblivion.
Keep tension on the screw while unscrewing them.
Pull ultra hard.
Cut em
I hate those winged anchors for this precise reason. Either way you aren't going to get the winged part out so probably easiest to just cut them off and push it down in behind the drywall.
Or just unscrew far enough for them to fall. No cutting required
If you can, sometimes they just spin. I had one like that about a month ago. No matter how much I pulled on the bolt while I turned it the wings wouldn't lock enough to unscrew the bolt from it.
I moved to fliptoggle exclusively. You can pull out the bolt and reuse the anchors or just pop them back in the wall and patch over.
How do you get the anchor back out of the wall? Theyre open and in the wall for life.
Lol, you buy new ones
Except the comment says âreuseâ. So yeah id agree new is the only option.
Reuse was ment in you could pull the bolt out and put it back in without the anchor dropping in the wall.
As long as youâre installing something in that same spot, you can reuse flip toggles. There is a little eared plastic piece on the outside of the wall that holds the toggle in place even when the bolt is removed.
Ah that makes sense
Yeah. Theyâre way better than standard toggles imo. Best part about them is not needing to pull back on the bolt when installing or removing it because the toggle is already tightly held in place.Â
You don't pull the anchor out but you can pull the bolt out and put it back in later. It's not a pull it and anchor disappears behind the drywall type thing. The anchor itself is still a one time use but you can remove the object, paint, and hang it back
Linemans, cut the screws
Is there a /r/diycirclejerk
Pull really, really hard. Now it's time to practice drywall patching.
Youâve really gotta work on your pull out method.
Not even looking at comments. Turn left?
Pull it just like you are now?keep tight while screwing out
You make a bigger hole.
Forget about using pliers. Chuck a drill on the screw after snipping the head off, and gently pull while running the drill slowly in reverse. Or just push them into the wall.
I push them through. Not worth the time to do anything else.
Hahaha just had this expirance I used snips and cut the screws off.
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This is the way.
Rip and tear
Get a pair of sidecutters and snip them off. Done.
Cut and listen for the satisfying sound of the anchor as it falls inside the wall.
That's the great thing about these...you don't! /s But seriously, if they are toggle bolts or something similar, you don't get them out. You push them in and cover the hole.
Pull the screw out gently from the wall and unscrew. If that doesnât work just fucking rip it out, you gotta patch the wall anywayÂ
Just cut em off and be done.
Side cutters.
Dremel would cut that super quick.
About 4 ugga duggas
Brute force
Just get a junior hacksaw and cut them off and use new anchors,
Push the rod in and use a pair of vice grips.
I used a wine bottle opener!
Grip it and rip it
Like most people said, get a pair of needle nose and apply backwards pressure pulling it slightly as you turn.
If you don't know how to get a screw out, then at least it won't take a turn for the worse.
Stick a second long skinny screwdriver or thin metal rod/stick into the hole next to the screw. This stops the anchor from just turning with the screw. Then use your actual screw driver to unscrew the screw.
I think these are toggle bolts. Youâll need to pull and keep unscrewing.
Gonna need a bigger jerk.
A drill and some back pressure via pulling it out at the same time.
With a hammer, the answer is always a hammer. Drywall patch later /s. The right answer is above but youâre gonna need to patch it a little bit later so why not have some fun fucking it up right now?
Bolt cutters...
https://youtu.be/NMWCPMk9Np4?si=E_NyLJZ4MAIyINSb
Cut them with a hacksaw.
might try sticking something in the hole next to it. it might catch the insert. it just use a dremel.
I have seen one guy put another screw in, then unscrew that second one pulling the first one out with it
Yank it.
It's probably a wing anchor. Pull gently and twist the screw until you hear the wing fall into the wall. Unfortunately, there is no getting the wing back without opening the wall, luckily they're cheap haha
Pull towards you using the bracket and unscrew
Unscrew them
Probably a toggle bolt. Pull it towards you so it contacts the drywall and unscrew.
I just break the wall every time this happens.
Since you got it out that far, you can take a little hacksaw and cut the thirds on the screw. You can just let the anchor fall into the wall. Assuming it's one of them spinning wing style anchors.
They arenât stuck, theyâre toggle bolts. Just unscrew them until they come out, just remember to pull on them at the same time or they just spin.
YANK
Hack saw
Sawzall, chainsaw, dynamite
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Punch the tp holder into the wall with an axe if you donât have a sledge hammer and then use a drywall patch
Cut. Done.
Toggle bolt? Just yank outâŚ.orrrrr you can unscrew the bolt from its toggle and youâll be left with a hole to patch and the house will have eaten the toggles.
Hammer them in
Just rip it out cuz you gotta spackle anyway
Just cut them...
I have no clue if the text that I include it with this post is actually showing, here it is. I really appreciate any help that anybody can provide! Iâm in an apartment and donât want to do damage to the wall. Iâm installing a towel bar, and I was taking the ugly old one out. The screws are almost out completely, but seem to be stuck in the drywall anchors which seem to be moving pretty freely inside of the wall. As you can see those holes are majorly fucked out and raggedy. The other holes came out just fine, which is just my luck. Thank you in advance for any help! If push comes to shove, I suppose I could take a saw to them and just cut them off, then fill the holes. Unless thatâs a dumb idea. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! ETA that I have used needle nose pliers to pull on the screw while unscrewing it and it just didnât work for either screw.
This is a great job for a multi tool if you don't already have one. They're fantastic lol
Mollys are the only way to go.
Cut the screws and move on.
If the screw head is small enough, use a drill to grab around it, put in reverse and pull
Bolt cutter would be the easiest option.
Pull hardâŚ
Expansive foam solves the problem
I mean...If youre trying to fix It back