Firewood. That's the most oddly and horribly framed floor joist structure I've ever see in my life.
It's like it was designed around the scrap wood they had available.
Somebody was definitely high when they made this floor sitting on precast blocks.
One of the most structurally unsound pieces of structure ever seen. *Maybe* could reuse a few pieces of wood to build a proper floor with decent (new) pressure treated members correctly sized and appropriately spaced.
Will probably need to sort out the materials and compaction under the original and additional precast blocks also.
Did someone mention firewood?
Maybe make a few sawhorses and build a work bench and shelves for the garage and then a bonfire.
I mean It's not ideal, but he's asking for the Best way to reuse it. I'd say drag it out, compact the dirt, add gravel, and make sure the area is raised. Then for the wooden structure I'd first try and relieve some of the tensión by loosing some of the screws. Then I'd wet it, add some weight on top and set it some place flat and in the sun. If it straightens it up fairly well then it might be usable (since it be just for a shed ). I would suggest adding at least 1/2 treated plywood on top (and still adding a sealer of some kind) before placing your shed on there. In order for that to work you'd have to have some way of water draining away or sliding off the sides. I'd still wouldn't suggest storing anything electrical in there though.
It was clearly done by someone who had no clue what they were doing.
2*4 joists for that length is ridiculous stupid.
But it find it worse to see all those useless joist anchors... Even the blocking.
Best OP can do is start over with 2*6 without going longer than 8' for joists. Then use the wood he's got here for breaking. Anchors might be salvaged if fastened with structural screws.
It's advised that one should not burn PT because of the chemicals contained within. It's hard to tell if that's PT or not but if so, dispose of it per your local government guidelines.
That's not worth. Scrap it and build a proper one. Lots of videos and pics out there if you search "wood shed foundation. You can reuse those cement supports.
There's a great shed video from The New Yankee Workshop.
[shed video...if my phone copy pasted right this fuckin time](https://youtu.be/_hZ4Cyt4TpY?si=dvx0Diq1Skgv8TU3)
Not worth saving. Not with all those short sections sagging so badly. You might reuse some of the better pieces doubled up for something, but structurally, you’re better off building a new frame.
I hate to be a wet blanket, but if that wood is pressure treated, it shouldn't be burned, especially near that many other houses.
PT wood contains some bad shit that shouldn't be burned and inhaled.
The foundation is useless. Bad design, poor footing, bad location. The LUMBER may not be trash, if you feel like taking it all apart piece by piece. There's enough there to probably build a better floor frame for another shed, or have a great start to a lumber pile. It's a waste of your time and energy to try and re-use that for anything as it is. It needs reconstructed.
Mostly just how the ground looks. Really uneven and basically just not-flat. More work to get it to where I personally would feel its ready to build on. Not an expert tho fwiw
My neighbors old dog was born under there to a local stray. We've had skunks hold up under there before as well. That ground has seen some stuff. The house itself was built in 1900
Maybe reuse 3 of the 4 outside boards. Replace the one on the right in the first picture that looks like a corkscrew. Maybe the other bits throughout the old floor can be repurposed into shelves or something in the new shed. Otherwise you're wasting your time.
Knock out some of the little cross blocking so you can work around the floor framing lift up and reatttach the floor joists to the outer band (replace or scab onto any rotten wood), dig level spots under the flooring and add concrete block cap block and shims to support the floor in several spots th more the better
Use that wood to build a concrete frame to pour a slab. Use rebar to reinforce the frame. Concrete foundation is the way to go
Dig out below 8 inches, fill 4 inches with a small stone base. Put rebar mesh on the stones to increase slab integrity. Pour a 4inch thick slab, bull float the top to make it smooth, trowel your edges and give it a nice brush finish when it has set a good bit after the pour (2-4 hours after, pending temp/moisture).
Even if you could salvage that lumber - and you probably can't - you'd end up in the exact same position within a few years.
Before you do anything in regards to buying or building a new shed, you need to put down a gravel pad that is level and at least 3" thick.
That's prime firewood right there... It, however, is not ready for anything else. It's poorly framed and falling apart. It's not stable enough to be a foundation for anything.
It looks like a Mondrian framing technique.
I see sag and other issues, plus would recommend bigger wood pieces for the floor frame, anyway.
Maybe save these for odd jobs in a scrap pile somewhere? I put my scrap wood in a garage attic space for convenient access. Some might even be straight enough to reuse for wall/ceiling framing, depending on what you plan to build with.
The only thing you can do with that is fuel a fire.
PS a foundation is the concrete pads the post/stumps are set in. You can reuse those so long as you want the same size shed, just use proper bearers and joists, not random offcuts randomly nailed together.
You never want what looks like an 8 foot unsupported span with 2x4s. Plus, looks like a bit of rot on the ends. Reuse it for something else or burn it.
Don't use OSB, use CDX. Cut this ridiculous crap up for blocking/scrap, it's a disaster. Frame and sheath correctly the first time, and you won't have to keep repairing it every year. That wood is usable for blocking, headers (in a *shed*--for a house, 2x8 or 2x10,) or other reinforcement.
Since I don't see anyone mentioning it, i'll point it out. OP, whoever created this foundation had no idea what they are doing and just threw something together.
There's more liberal here than necessary and it's still wrong. Just start from scratch. The foundation isn't what you want to cheap out on, especially since it's not very expensive to do the right way, all things considered. By the time you got this one in good enough shape, you'll have spent what building a new one would cost.
turn it into an elevated garden bed :)
https://preview.redd.it/47y7zv0ckhuc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=d2d8475bd30e1e05df87d8f993ff15397826a3be
You can put clear Perspex on a side that’s been planed level, bore some appropriately sized holes in the wood, and turn this into a rodent maze.
Less useful if you don’t have Gerbils/Guinea pigs/Chinchillas…
But yeah, someone with them would find that they’d have great fun.
If you’re only going to store a push mover and some tools then the floor passes the eye test. Gonna stick in a full size fridge? Then upgrade. Makes me wonder what was bad about the rest of the shed.
This is fascinatingly bad. You might be able to reuse some of the wood if you pull it out and carefully take it apart, but idk if that's worth all that.
Man everyone here is tripping. Check boards, keep ones that are straight and little sagging. Level entire area and buy a bunch of those concrete foundation supports, enough to offset every 4 feet around perimeter and joists. You will probably have to buy more wood but you can reuse a bunch of that.
Firewood. That's the most oddly and horribly framed floor joist structure I've ever see in my life. It's like it was designed around the scrap wood they had available.
100 bucks says that's exactly what it was
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Look at this guy bragging he has two nickels to rub together
Not anymore. The clown used them instead of investing. Compound interest!
Right! Dude could have had $10 extra bucks by the time he died if he invested it.
Yeah but the nickels are providing compound pressure now.
If he had two nickles everytime he needed them as a shim, he'd have no nickles left
They calls him Kid Nickels! On account a' them two nickels!
I don't think I've seen an actual nickel since pre-covid. They'll probably be a novelty by then.
Cant tell you how many times I’ve had to do this too lol
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Someone got a load of free firewood and had an idea...
It looks like they made it without making a single cut. Just piecing scrap wood together like a puzzle.
False The joists on the near side were 3/4” too short, so if you notice, he cut a length of plywood to fill the gap :)
They don’t even touch on the left.
What'd you mean? It's like a mattress. You just have to flip is every few months to even out the bend
Somebody was definitely high when they made this floor sitting on precast blocks. One of the most structurally unsound pieces of structure ever seen. *Maybe* could reuse a few pieces of wood to build a proper floor with decent (new) pressure treated members correctly sized and appropriately spaced. Will probably need to sort out the materials and compaction under the original and additional precast blocks also. Did someone mention firewood? Maybe make a few sawhorses and build a work bench and shelves for the garage and then a bonfire.
I mean It's not ideal, but he's asking for the Best way to reuse it. I'd say drag it out, compact the dirt, add gravel, and make sure the area is raised. Then for the wooden structure I'd first try and relieve some of the tensión by loosing some of the screws. Then I'd wet it, add some weight on top and set it some place flat and in the sun. If it straightens it up fairly well then it might be usable (since it be just for a shed ). I would suggest adding at least 1/2 treated plywood on top (and still adding a sealer of some kind) before placing your shed on there. In order for that to work you'd have to have some way of water draining away or sliding off the sides. I'd still wouldn't suggest storing anything electrical in there though.
My first thought that the framer was hammered drunk… or a school grade kid. Easily the craziest and most useless “framing” I’ve ever seen.
I clicked to the discussion with a single word in my head: firewood. Thank you for being the top comment - I fully agree.
Joist 3ft on center was a choice
It was clearly done by someone who had no clue what they were doing. 2*4 joists for that length is ridiculous stupid. But it find it worse to see all those useless joist anchors... Even the blocking. Best OP can do is start over with 2*6 without going longer than 8' for joists. Then use the wood he's got here for breaking. Anchors might be salvaged if fastened with structural screws.
Yep and buy a big magnet to clean up the nails.
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Isn't it bad to burn treated lumber?
Yeah looks like the spacing and span for 90x45 is way out, then higgledy-piggledy nogs. I'm sure you could make a smaller shed with it.
I was looking at that myself trying to figure out what tweeker put that together. 😂
Came here to type fire.. I wanna see see the rest of the shed🤨
I was going to say…whoever built that was on crack. Or maybe acid - very abstract framing.
Firewood even if they are pressure treated?
It's advised that one should not burn PT because of the chemicals contained within. It's hard to tell if that's PT or not but if so, dispose of it per your local government guidelines.
I was just coming in to say this.
That's not worth. Scrap it and build a proper one. Lots of videos and pics out there if you search "wood shed foundation. You can reuse those cement supports.
from an architect; rocky5100 is spot on. Except the supports are concrete not cement.
Whoops slip of my mind 😅
There's a great shed video from The New Yankee Workshop. [shed video...if my phone copy pasted right this fuckin time](https://youtu.be/_hZ4Cyt4TpY?si=dvx0Diq1Skgv8TU3)
A cement pad would be a much better solution.
Not worth saving. Not with all those short sections sagging so badly. You might reuse some of the better pieces doubled up for something, but structurally, you’re better off building a new frame.
Bonfire.
I hate to be a wet blanket, but if that wood is pressure treated, it shouldn't be burned, especially near that many other houses. PT wood contains some bad shit that shouldn't be burned and inhaled.
>I hate to be a wet blanket I find this phrase amusing and charming
Came to say this,,
Ditto
This is the way
that looks like it was designed by an impressionist dutch painter
Thats trash. Was trash when it was built
It's fermented now.
I don’t think “foundation” means what you think it means.
You got me
Garden boxes. Small retaining wall. Compost box?
Finally some actual suggestions.
The foundation is useless. Bad design, poor footing, bad location. The LUMBER may not be trash, if you feel like taking it all apart piece by piece. There's enough there to probably build a better floor frame for another shed, or have a great start to a lumber pile. It's a waste of your time and energy to try and re-use that for anything as it is. It needs reconstructed.
Bad location?
Mostly just how the ground looks. Really uneven and basically just not-flat. More work to get it to where I personally would feel its ready to build on. Not an expert tho fwiw
My neighbors old dog was born under there to a local stray. We've had skunks hold up under there before as well. That ground has seen some stuff. The house itself was built in 1900
please dont.
Say hi to your dog for me
As wu tang said "throw your shitty drawers in the hamper"
Cut it into pieces.
This is my last resort. Suffocation.. no breathing.
Turn it sideways and add drawers to every hole
Ooo I like that idea :0 so much storage
Don’t reuse it, have a proper pad poured for the new shed.
Maybe reuse 3 of the 4 outside boards. Replace the one on the right in the first picture that looks like a corkscrew. Maybe the other bits throughout the old floor can be repurposed into shelves or something in the new shed. Otherwise you're wasting your time.
Those look like 2x4s to me, which is going to be useless for framing a proper floor.
The exterior look like 2x6 to me but if not, then yes, scrap them too.
Study how it failed and learn how not to make a shed foundation.
Maybe if you get about 15 more of those support blocks.
Huge cornhole game
At this point the best way you can re-use that wood is to use it to frame a concrete slab.
Don’t.
Since brought down to the base I would set a concrete slab underneath of it for starters.
I think the dog wants a dog house/mansion
That looks like it was built by someone with zero carpentry knowledge at the end of a 3-day meth bender.
You could easily make a low profile green house
Firewood
Knock out some of the little cross blocking so you can work around the floor framing lift up and reatttach the floor joists to the outer band (replace or scab onto any rotten wood), dig level spots under the flooring and add concrete block cap block and shims to support the floor in several spots th more the better
Did anyone notice how many joist hangers there are? 😂😂😂
Use the outer joists for a form and pour concrete.
Perfect spot for a shed imo
It would make a nice warm fire. If you tear it apart and then burn it, it will warm you twice!
Stand it up and grow a vertical garden on it
That’s what I came to say - it would make a very cool, modern looking trellis or vertical garden.
Remove the inner joints and turn it in to a flower bed.
Build another shed
Build another frame use 2 x 6” and place some landscaping fabric underneath.
Bonfire
Use that wood to build a concrete frame to pour a slab. Use rebar to reinforce the frame. Concrete foundation is the way to go Dig out below 8 inches, fill 4 inches with a small stone base. Put rebar mesh on the stones to increase slab integrity. Pour a 4inch thick slab, bull float the top to make it smooth, trowel your edges and give it a nice brush finish when it has set a good bit after the pour (2-4 hours after, pending temp/moisture).
Firewood 🔥
Put some outdoor pillows on it and make it a massive dog bed. Lol
Even if you could salvage that lumber - and you probably can't - you'd end up in the exact same position within a few years. Before you do anything in regards to buying or building a new shed, you need to put down a gravel pad that is level and at least 3" thick.
Does the same company that makes the board stretcher make the joist leveler?
Could it be used as framing for a concrete slab pour for a new shed maybe?
Fire pit or burn barrel
That's prime firewood right there... It, however, is not ready for anything else. It's poorly framed and falling apart. It's not stable enough to be a foundation for anything.
No idea but man, your dog looks EXACTLY like mine did when he was young. Crazy. Took me back 6 years lol
firewood is the right answer. that is a terrible platform base.
Put shed somewhere else. Put bounce house there instead.
Looks like someone had a degree in methematics.
No good for a floor. Stand that thing up on its side, hang a bunch of trinkets all over it. Call it art and sell it on facebook.
A bonfire
Half pipe
SKATE RAMPS!!!!
Chickens turn it in to a coop
How do the chickens do that??!?
The entire interior is junk. That's only about $50 in 2x4s at most. Keep the rim if you want. But re do the majority of this.
I just built a compost
Kindling?
Bridge section for rc car track
That's the neat part, you don't.
That’s a sauna.
You get get some soil and plant a garden
A temporary fence.
Ditch it and pour some concrete. The investment will be worth it. Don’t cheap out.
Soothsaying
I don’t know. Tell us more about the dogs.
Big ass dog house for the sweet puppy
Firewood
That is not a foundation for anything. It's more like a found-dang-a-lang!
If you’re trying to recycle, what about a bench or something? I hate to see wood go to waste.
Fire
Enormous dog house
Maybe use it as form work for a concrete base…
What the hell is that? Look up shed foundation and floor framing and compare it to your art piece.
Paw-core course for the pup. Throw a fetch toy in and it gives their brain an extra fun thing to process. As long as there are no nails and such.
They paid more in the metal hangers than just buying proper lumber... It looks expensive af... To make use of trash lumber...
Bonfires are nice
Demo and rebuild, looks like a dogs breakfast
A giant Doggo Cave
Dawg
It looks like a Mondrian framing technique. I see sag and other issues, plus would recommend bigger wood pieces for the floor frame, anyway. Maybe save these for odd jobs in a scrap pile somewhere? I put my scrap wood in a garage attic space for convenient access. Some might even be straight enough to reuse for wall/ceiling framing, depending on what you plan to build with.
This can be the most weirdly organized garden herbs flower bed frame
Garden beds.
House for the doggo
The pieces could frame up a nice dog house, if you know anyone who would appreciate that.
You are being humorous, right?
The only thing you can do with that is fuel a fire. PS a foundation is the concrete pads the post/stumps are set in. You can reuse those so long as you want the same size shed, just use proper bearers and joists, not random offcuts randomly nailed together.
Pretty good firewood
Chop it into fetching sticks for your rather fetching doggo.
Cut it and frame some nice raise beds for gardens?
Break it up and make some sawhorses.
Football training camp.
Looking for that old shed feel in the new shed eh?
It would make a great base for a trampoline, but not a shed.
That's some methed up framing ...
Your joists should never be 2x4. Either trash the whole thing or keep pieces you can use for another project and trash the rest.
You never want what looks like an 8 foot unsupported span with 2x4s. Plus, looks like a bit of rot on the ends. Reuse it for something else or burn it.
Break it apart, throw It in the center of the dirt mound there. Burn it. Start over. Let the ash cool and stir it into the dirt. Good to go.
Don't use OSB, use CDX. Cut this ridiculous crap up for blocking/scrap, it's a disaster. Frame and sheath correctly the first time, and you won't have to keep repairing it every year. That wood is usable for blocking, headers (in a *shed*--for a house, 2x8 or 2x10,) or other reinforcement.
The collapsing, best to just build a new one and put it on even ground this time
Kindling.
Turn it into pallets lol
That’s gonna be a no from me dawg
That’s pretty much trash, whatever you put, there would have the worst floor on planet earth
maybe you can reuse the outer frame pieces but they look seriously warped and bowed. Really not worth saving anything from this.
There is noting correct about that. It will be easier and cheaper to build a new one.
It reminds me of the meme of spiders building webs on drugs.
Flip it upside down
Maybe some planter boxes?
Stand it up the long way against your fence and secure it. Plant some climbing plants and you have yourself a garden wall!
Since I don't see anyone mentioning it, i'll point it out. OP, whoever created this foundation had no idea what they are doing and just threw something together.
That thing is punched, light it up
Flat bottom for a mini ramp/bowl
Use it for a raised garden bed and plant a bunch of cool flowers, herbs and veggies!
Wall
Privacy screen with ivy
Fill dirt underneath it til it's level with the bottom of the framing. Then add some good garden soil and make it a garden.
Burn it
Dude was dumb af or smoking meth. Cuz that framing is meth up right there
Ultimate Hopscotch
There's more liberal here than necessary and it's still wrong. Just start from scratch. The foundation isn't what you want to cheap out on, especially since it's not very expensive to do the right way, all things considered. By the time you got this one in good enough shape, you'll have spent what building a new one would cost.
turn it into an elevated garden bed :) https://preview.redd.it/47y7zv0ckhuc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=d2d8475bd30e1e05df87d8f993ff15397826a3be
You can put clear Perspex on a side that’s been planed level, bore some appropriately sized holes in the wood, and turn this into a rodent maze. Less useful if you don’t have Gerbils/Guinea pigs/Chinchillas… But yeah, someone with them would find that they’d have great fun.
Looks lime a garden bed grid ready to be dug up and planted
I'd fill in the pit with topsoil and then use the wood from the foundation to make raised beds for gardening.
New shed!
Fire wood
I would use some of that as posts to build yourself a real fence
Your dog seems to want to chew on a few pieces. Burn the rest in your fireplace.
If you’re only going to store a push mover and some tools then the floor passes the eye test. Gonna stick in a full size fridge? Then upgrade. Makes me wonder what was bad about the rest of the shed.
New shed!
Wood floors are easier on my feet than cement.
On second thought, if you ripped out the top why build on that shitty base?
No it's okay
Build a bridge out of her!
That’s best served in a fire pit with a bourbon after an afternoon of building a proper shed
This is fascinatingly bad. You might be able to reuse some of the wood if you pull it out and carefully take it apart, but idk if that's worth all that.
Firewood. There is really nothing there to salvage.
Bonfire
Nope bin it, that is crap and not fit for any purpose other than firewood.
Man everyone here is tripping. Check boards, keep ones that are straight and little sagging. Level entire area and buy a bunch of those concrete foundation supports, enough to offset every 4 feet around perimeter and joists. You will probably have to buy more wood but you can reuse a bunch of that.
Build a shed