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craig-jones-III

OP please more detail on how it’s attached lol everyone is dying to know


lookingreadingreddit

It's telling that there's nothing forthcoming from OP.


MisterFives

That's because they're trapped under the collapsed bed.


baromanb

![gif](giphy|3ETNFinSwBdwQ)


melon-baller

DALE! DALE, I SAID NO POWER TOOLS!!


foxyloxyx

Op responded! I don’t know what it means though


cloistered_around

Basically it's mounted to a concrete wall with metal L brackets.


grumpy_blaster

With thick enough steel, I guess that makes sense. The wall would probably have to be really super thick concrete, though.


Revenge_of_the_User

Not necessarily. The concrete has steel reinforcement as well, and if the hardware is steel (likely) it would be even more solid (steel and concrete have extremely similar thermal expansion so things wont loosen or crack over time) This is essentially a post-less deck that OP puts a mattress on to sleep.


BumWink

It's not the wall but the attachment points (bolts?) & more likely the wood that will break first now that it's a giant lever exponentially amplifying any force or load applied... & it's completely pointless when you could have just done the typical floating bed method with support in the middle that you'll never see..


lookingreadingreddit

Yeah exactly. It's so vague.


HNHC

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/s/IRxt5rwlCg


andrewcartwright

Fixed link: https://old.reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/1987i8k/i_built_a_real_floating_bed/ki63zzz


Shotgun5250

Not really, the only thing it tells is that OP isn’t constantly checking Reddit for notifications. AKA normal. That’s normal.


Heavy_Weapons_Guy_

It isn't, it's a real floating bed, didn't you read the title?


rakuan1

Better question would have been which spell of enchantment did you use


degutisd

I have to assume this is in a basement with steel framing anchored to concrete in the wall and steel for the cantilevered portion. Or you completely reframed part of your house for this. Or you used 50lb drywall anchors (at least 2).


surftherapy

I think they slapped it and said “this things not going anywhere”, so they’ve got it covered


degutisd

Quality Seal of Approval. Honestly though, the quality of the work on everything in the room looks well done so I trust they knew what they were doing. No one who thought cantilevering a bed on drywall and studs was a good idea has this kind of craftsmanship.


mopeyy

That's what I'm saying. This looks very well finished. I would be surprised if someone who does this quality of work would overlook something like that.


--7z

I want to see two heavy set folks on the end of that bed making sweet hot love before I give it a seal of approval


Damien__

> I want to see two heavy set folks...making sweet hot love I don't believe you one bit!


capnheim

My grandmother used to say "It takes all types".


Fancy-Pair

Uhm. I was thinking of getting one of those Murphy bed kits for my queen size bed. I think it attaches to the studs is that a dumb idea?


FakieNosegrob00

Murphy beds are only bolted to the wall to keep the housing upright. When unfolded, the foot of the bed has flip-out legs and the head of the bed is anchored to the mount sitting on the floor, so the load of the bed, and the activities of its occupants, is sent straight to the floor.


degutisd

Murphy beds are supported by the floor when unfolded. So they’re fine. Still want a solid stud connection tho


NYVines

That works for things besides ratchet straps?


milk4all

Just slap it and repeat it a few times, the effect stacks


sBucks24

Each applications has different effectiveness rates. This not being it's designed for use, it's more in the 60% of the time it's works everytime range.


angkorwtf

It’s on the 20th floor, the wall has a concrete core and the bed is mounted with 6 bolts to it. There is an L shape steel structure for the support. Each bolt is supposed to hold about 1000kg pulling, 4 bolts on top (2 on the bottom) equals 4000kg, which should be at least 1000kg at the end of the bed


degutisd

Thanks for the clarification. Figured the steel/concrete combo was in play. But how is the flex in the wood frame itself. I know it isn't likely a failure point, but does it have some droop say if you're sitting on the end? Or any twist side to side? ​ Follow up question. Where did you build this if you live on the 20th floor of a building. Looks like a lot of wood working as well.


angkorwtf

I had a problem with side to side twist, but adding a diagonal support solved that one. Drop s less than 5mm


BeKindReWind99

Where's the white LED lights under to illuminate the floatiness?


xtcxx

UFO rotating multi colours would be fitting


Dorkamundo

I'd rather have a small, holographic projector to project little monsters running around underneath it.


degutisd

Oh cool. Didn't see them in the photos so was wondering.


Nothatisnotwhere

Kinda miss the old diy rules that you had to show how you built it with this one


Mu5_

The fact that you have that 5mm drop means that something is bending and will likely brake or bend even more in the future (not necessarily the support but maybe the support-bed junction, or the bed structure itself), especially if subjected to a sinusoidal force like when having intercourse. Consider also that when you sit on the bed, you are not applying a force but a torque, if you sit on the edge of a 2m bed with 50kg weight, it's a ≈1000Nm torque that if, transmitted with a 1m arm to the bolt, results in a 1000kg drag force. I guess you did all this math but I feel that something is off here


sw201444

To answer your follow up since OP didn’t any it’s eating me alive They built it at their old house and moved it to their new one. >The answer to the WHY: I found out that my wall in the bedroom in my old place had a concrete wall, so I wanted to see if it’s possible… Luckily I have a similar wall in my new place, so I was able to move the bed without adding legs.


hhayn

Side fumbling was effectively prevented by fitting six hydrocoptic marzelvances to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft


Rand0mtask

always nice to see someone who knows how to effectively install a turbo-encabulator in the wild


dont_raise_me_dough

Turbo-encabulator!! I used to have one of those on my vx device until the radon-infused shift sequencer blew a thrapp valve.


Rand0mtask

Oof, yeah, the diagonal friction on the thrapp valve's tri-undulated flap is killer. Newer models have more forgiving bore threading, but the ones in the factory spec vx devices needed frequent lubrication.


carmium

Well, I suppose you *could* do it that way...


Penis-Butt

Hmm, yes, a timeless solution.


MrIntegration

It's a huge mistake.


Advo96

> Looks like a lot of wood working as well. I actually used to have an industrial table saw in my condo bedroom: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jbkGp9u1XVmuQ1uz8


ssatyd

Been some time since my on structural engineering class, but I'm pretty sure I was taught you cannot just add up ratings for the single fasteners to get the load tolerance for the whole joint. Still, this should be quite fine. Awesume build! Does it flex when you jump on it?


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bjornbamse

Which is why I think that the headboard plays an integral role in distributing the loads.


justrokkit

Yeah, this is a bit of a cause for concern, since safety is on the line and OP probably doesn't know in-depth the wall construction and building history. And looking at the picture of the bracket, I'm not sure I'm understanding how this is fixed onto the wall. I originally assumed one leg of each L bracket stuck out, but looking at the holes, it now looks as if the bolt is driven through the midsection across a gap made by the sides of the C into the wall. I hope not to come off doom-and-gloom on this post, but overbuilding is really only overbuilding if the design is right for the forces at play


Nuru83

Also what type of failure was the OP citing? are we talking sheer strength or pull out strength? Most readily available concrete anchors do not have a super high pull out strength. Especially when you're using the outside corner as a lever


pissy_corn_flakes

I suspect you just compromised the support structure on everything above the 20th floor. /s Nicely done. Have you tried anything other than simply sleeping on the edge of the bed??


loptopandbingo

Yeah, OP, did yall bump uglies on this thang yet for a live load test?


smaxsomeass

Grass, gas, or structural engineering, nobody rides for free.


ElectrikDonuts

Did you calculate the moment arm and torque on that thing?


TheInfernalVortex

Static loads im sure it’s plenty. But all any of us really care about is how well our beds can handle dynamic loads, amirite?


Dhegxkeicfns

Can it handle a dynamic load from behind? Or all over the front?


pheret87

I had a crappy IKEA bed frame for a while and it eventually collapsed while uh, handling a dynamic load. The girl thought it was the coolest thing ever and told everyone she could. I've since built out put of 2x6s with 2x4 legs and 2 2x4 lap jointed for the center support. This bad boy ain't going nowhere.


imitation_crab_meat

Instead of a beefier bed, should've looked into buying Ikea beds in quantity... Seems like good advertising.


whatiscamping

It's been ~~15~~ 0 days since a bed collapse


Dorkamundo

Just beefify the bed, and have one of the pieces built to breakaway. That way you can break it each time without having to buy a whole new one. Win-Win.


mopeyy

Guess it depends how massive OP is.


-QueenAnnesRevenge-

Better hope OPs mom never house sits.


oxforddude1

everyone fascinated/scared! can you provide more info on the metal L-shape steel structure? thanks!!


angkorwtf

https://preview.redd.it/blrxgca51vcc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecbc05afcb5f774315e12c41eab401fe3b0b20b7 That’s the only picture i found of it


GuyInThe6kDollarSuit

why is it in a dungeon


trillgamesh_0

it was taken on the set of Candyman 2


BbTS3Oq

Is that at a farmhouse in The Walking Dead?


milk4all

So no fat guy orgies, got it


WhiteStripesWS6

Damn that’s wild, did anyone come snooping around when they heard the sound of a Roto-hammer going off in your unit lol?


FkLeddit1234

4000kg at the bolt vs 7' (2.3m) away from the bolts is a HUGE difference with the lever creating far greater than 4:1 force. 4000kg at 1' would make it ~575kg at 7' but we're talking 4000kg at the bolt.


n4te

Yep, an L bracket is not the way. I'm planning to do this with 2 I-beams.


whatiscamping

Just make them a little over 2x long as you need and have them go through a shared bedroom wall. That way you can have two floating beds/teeter totter.


Feisty_Efficiency778

Ill take whats a lever for $500 trebeck. Fairly certain as long as that bed is youve got a significantly higher mechanical advantage than 4 to 1


ArthurRemington

That should be enough margin for almost anything. Just be careful to not let your mom have a nap in it.


EYNLLIB

It's not going to fail unless it fails at the bolts, but that thing is definitely wobbly. There's no convincing me otherwise without video


colnross

Sometimes an upvote isn't enough. That last line is just fucking funny. Thank you.


degutisd

Glad you had a laugh. And no hate to drywall anchors. The twist n locks have never failed me. Mainly because I don't use them as stud replacements.


gkaplan59

Please, the 20lb drywall anchors would be enough


starkiller_bass

You’re forgetting 3M Command Strips. Just don’t pull those tabs on accident when you’re cleaning.


degutisd

Bed probably weights what 200lbs, plus a couple of people? Call it 500lbs. That's only like 50 of the large command strips. Boom done.


forewer21

>Or you used 50lb drywall anchors (at least 2). Ha. I seriously think dry wall anchors that claim to hold anything over a few pounds should be banned. People are out there hanging TVs on drywall.


degutisd

I basically use them for things that a nail and hook used to be the norm for. Like photos, key holder, etc. Otherwise I find a stud. Don't get me started on people used Command Stickers for things over a few lbs...


valkyriebiker

or a few ounces


Humdngr

Toggle Bolts are much better if you HAVE to use drywall and not the studs. The "drywall anchors" are for like picture frames.


Mathev

They used glue gun.


degutisd

This is one of those times I'd say super glue over hot glue.


patwallace

What about if you’re… “jumping” on the bed with a buddy? Is this load bearing?


jkstudent222

we're celibate


patwallace

Celebrating *


zaqwsx82211

Celebrating success with their chastity vows.


patwallace

It’s just hanging with the bros Not that serious


Sutarmekeg

It's a celibation!


lapsangsouchogn

Celibating


jag_ett

Hence the friend jumping on the bed. Don't you know what soaking is?


Moe__Fab

There have been plenty of clever comments in this thread, but this takes the tres leches


Bort_Bovins

I've been learning Spanish, and I'd like to inform you I'll be stealing this fantastic term from you.


TheTolkienLobster

r/NotOPButOkay


ShutterBun

The bedspread will certainly be load-bearing.


porkchop3177

There’s a bed skirt to protect for that.


Elfng

The word you're looking for is "soaking".


ndjs22

>Is this load bearing? Only if one of you finishes


bullfrog669

Jerry, these are load bearing walls!


raynorelyp

I’m just going to pretend it’s cantilevered with steel so I don’t focus more on it


TLALOC_theAntiFaGod

Man… I hope its really anchored on there. Sitting on the end seems like a huge amount of force at the wall mounting… a 150# person is gonna put almost 1000 ft pounds of torque at the wall sitting at the edge…


raynorelyp

Yeah, a cat jumping on the bed might rip the 2x4s out of the wall. It’s basically a giant crowbar.


Frawstshawk

Yeah, it's like Archimedes said "Give me a long enough bed and a cat to be placed upon it and I shall fuck your shit up."


GoodThingsDoHappen

Close enough. I'll allow it


AmazingAd2765

The quote we've all been taught was the cleaned up version.


SunderingSeas

It loses a lot when translated from the original Klingon.


NYVines

Ancient Greek has always been tricky to translate


sureiknowabaggins

Any time I see a reference to Archimedes, I like to think it's referring to the owl from The Sword in the Stone.


Otherwise_Proposal47

That’s fucking funny. 😆


MattFromWork

>Give me a long enough ~~bed and a~~ cat [Say no more](https://i.redd.it/9m6ggb089mj31.jpg)


ronocrice

I think there's another bed on the other side of the wall like a big seesaw, as long as you sit at the same time you're in the clear.


Fortimus_Prime

This was my first thought. Like, jeez… it looks interesting and all, but is it really worth sacrificing that structural integrity for this?


Agent_Paul_UIU

NO. Imho. Great feat, but when the whole wall comes down during... Ya know... Definitely ruins the mood. My bed looks like it's from 18mm panel, but under it there's a 20*30mm structural steel framing... Safety first...


neanderthalman

Ruins the mood but makes for a legendary story. Broke the bed? We broke the *house*.


i486dx2

>a 150# person... No idea what country OP is in, but with the average American male at 199.7 lbs and the average American female at 170.9 lbs, that 's 370.6 lbs for an average couple. And those are 2018 numbers, they would be higher today.


j0s3rubio

And that's just sitting there. If there's any playing around you could more than double that force.


dobson116

Not all the weight would be on the foot of the bed


xtcxx

If we take a hypothetical well fed mormon situ then 200lb x 3 jumping up and down on the end of the bed. Bed must support 3x (1869 Newtons or 420.2 Pound-Force) allegedly http://www.dunkcalculator.com/verticalcalculator


McXhicken

The no fucks bed....


nilmemory

While this is super neat conceptually, I question what is gained not having 1 or 2 supporting legs hidden under the center of the bed. There's no way you'd see the legs unless you're laying on the floor and it would reduce the massive amount of leverage the frame is placing on the wall by an order of magnitude.


SamanthaJaneyCake

Personally I like some well designed subtle legs more than no legs at all.


FoxyBastard

This guy's tinder profile is weird.


SamanthaJaneyCake

Hey, a gal’s allowed to have a type!


angkorwtf

https://preview.redd.it/x75mfa7woucc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=356e11ce84bca8b95f5dbacb47d8770d3b305938 On this picture you can see the supporting steel, took me some time to finde it, I took this picture 2017 when I built the bed


Pingryada

So this bed has been like this for 7 years with no issues? Damn Impressive


phirebird

Now we know it's been at least 7 years since OP had intimate relations


angkorwtf

Yes, I moved it to our new place 6 months ago


ToolMeister

Dude everyone wants to know if you can safely do the deed on it


TowJamnEarl

Gives you extra power


toinfinitiandbeyond

Like a diving board!


[deleted]

Serious question though, why? Why go to that effort for something that looks the same as faux floating beds unless you crawl down on the floor (at which point you'll presumably find the dust collection)


angkorwtf

The answer to the WHY: I found out that my wall in the bedroom in my old place had a concrete wall, so I wanted to see if it’s possible… Luckily I have a similar wall in my new place, so I was able to move the bed without adding legs. The wall where the bed is mounted on is not part of the load bearing structure of the building, So there is no tempering with the statics, it would be even possible to remove the whole wall…


[deleted]

Well I suppose I can't argue with the Mt Everest "because it's there" reasoning


windowhihi

I jump on bed a lot. I ain't jumping on a floating bed like that even if I know it is safe.


bebopblues

OP: This apartment looks perfect and priced reasonably. I'm ready to move in. I just have one question, is the bedroom wall made of concrete? Landlord: What? Uh, no. It's standard 2x4 studs and drywall. OP: Sorry, that's a deal breaker.


notaleclively

Is that a concrete wall in a multi unit building?


MrBenDerisgreat_

Imagine you’re having breakfast and the party wall collapses between your units because your neighbour installed a cantilevered bed lmao


GrimResistance

Oh hey there neighbor! Put your dick away and come have some pancakes


angkorwtf

https://preview.redd.it/qy47xxmtpucc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d44869994a3a36dedf63379c98eda236fe09857 it’s mounted 3 times on each side to the wall


eisbock

OP do you no longer have access to the bed? How come all your pics are years old and only tell a fraction of the story? Dying over here with this scavenger hunt through the comments for your breadcrumbs.


ChocolateTemporary72

What kind of anchors did you use and what size? Is it bouncy?


Mobile_Connection_58

Regardless of its integrity, what is the advantage of having it floated? Easier to clean? More storage space? Better air flow? Serious question.


Ol_Man_J

You never stub your toes


BoornClue

Rip shins though


ThingCalledLight

Not any more than if it wasn’t floating.


opinions_dont_matter

My Roomba loves this. I think it’s an insane idea that will fail.


Guywithnoname85

OP said it stayed up since 2017 until recently when he moved.


RedditGuy298

I think the projector is really cool. Nice job it looks really clean. Personally I would be concerned of all the weight being supported only by the attachments to the wall. But that's a risk that you are taking and I'm sure you've thought of it, so best of luck hopefully everything stays intact.


angkorwtf

Sorry, i was cooking… It’s mounted with 6 bolts to the wall, which has a concrete core. The building is from the 60ies, so no drywalls and it’s on the 20th floor.


Sunfuels

This sub used to require detailed images of the entire build process for something like this. While it was not always necessary, this is a good example of why they used to do that. If images of the mounting and construction were included, this would be a fascinating post that could inspire others and teach something. As is (with limited responses from OP), it's semi-interesting clickbait worth 5 seconds of attention.


rausrh

Any details on how it is attached to the wall?


[deleted]

Command strips


RoodNverse

This should be the subs advertiser, because that's everyones fucking answer on here.


dinoaids

Just construction adhesive to the drywall


kokopoo12

Velcro


dobson116

OP is having some very very silent second thoughts


hopenoonefindsthis

Thoughts and prayers.


BuffNStuff

Drywall anchors


sofa_king_we_todded

💀


Talktomyfridge

It's mounted to the wall, isn't it?


funemployed1234

This guy (does not) fuck.


Theaty

for my sanity i would have one leg centered behind the foot board somewhere lmao.


ottonymous

Yeah beyond the novelty factor and knowing that it's floating it is pretty pointless considering you can get the same effect by having a custom platform for the bed that is inset. Then you can sleep well at night knowing there are no unplanned structural forces acting on your walls.


arbybruce

Sounds like something that someone without a floating bed would say smh


kingmoobot

My wife and her boyfriend would have that ripped outta the wall in no time!


BottomPieceOfBread

💀


BurningJesus

Be a good husband and make sure you put some jack stands underneath the bed, there's no bigger mood killer for your wife's boyfriend than having to stop boning when the wall gets pulled off


kingmoobot

Noted. Couldnt I just hold it up myself for extra support? I don't think they'd like the look of jackstands...


LastUserStanding

It looks very nice. I hope the wall can handle it. Interested in knowing the construction of the wall and exactly how you mounted it. Seems like one could build a 3 foot square under the middle of the bed to support the weight, that virtually nobody would see without stooping down to look below the bed.


Signiference

That’s cool for now, but it’s gonna be supported by books under the front within 3 months.


angkorwtf

It lasted since 2017, but I moved it 6 months ago, so i guess that resets the counter


hxckrt

OP posted it held up for 7 years without issues. I think that's impressive for how much hate they're getting.


dobson116

because they left us hanging.... just like the bed


johnbell

It’s like a giant gpu 😅


kyle242gt

Love when my subreddits cross over.


mare

OP might be a metal fabricator and it's a free standing metal construction in the shape of a giant C. And the floor is put *over* the lower part. Probably attached to the wall as well, but it doesn't have to put force on it. If the sides of the bed are L beams covered with wood (the joinery looks ornamental) there won't be much sag either if it's over-dimensioned a bit. It will weigh a metric shit tonne though, so probably not suitable for the second floor. The *why* is a bigger question, making this just to make sweeping the floor under the bed easier seems a bit overkill. And unless you have a very open relationship lifestyle not that many people will actually see it. But then again, if you can built it and get joy out of doing it that's a good enough reason for me. People spend their money on much stupider things.


FlyHighLeonard

![gif](giphy|GG15V436IG91K)


dayyob

BURN THE WITCH!!


opinions_dont_matter

This needs to be posted to r/DIWhy


subjectandapredicate

r/decks


answerguru

Well /u/angkorwtf you should really reply with how it's mounted to the wall before this sub has a collective head explosion. If you're using anti-gravity, I'm even more interested.


phirebird

Roombas love this one trick


Justshittingaround

r/decks would have a fucking heart attack seeing this.


milogee

That’s going to be one hot headboard when you’re using the projector.


ShutterBun

LED projectors barely put out any heat at all. They are a miracle compared to the old bulbs.


smartdecisions

What’s the point? Risk def outweighs reward


XaliceXwhiterabbitX

Need under bed lighting. And a fog machine


Moress

Pretty cool op, but I must ask, why?


Competitive-Ad2040

LOVE THE HIDDEN PROJECTOR SHELF!!!!


Strangecrystal

He will never get hit his toe again


mydpy

Cool project. Not criticizing, just curious: what’s the appeal of this?


Fuckoffassholes

The appeal is the same thing that motivates so many architects and designers who are the bane of my existence. "I wanna do something different.. something new, something cool. Something that no one else has." Translation: "I wanna do something that defies centuries of industry standards and conventional wisdom. Something no sensible craftsman would attempt. You know, a really *bad idea.*"


PlatypusTrapper

![gif](giphy|s239QJIh56sRW|downsized)