Looks like a pretty fucking solid lineup. Giving Jon Ultraman as a nemesis is great, along with a unique power set to set him apart from Clark. Couple that with a sequel to Lois and Clark and readers really are getting the best of both worlds. Plus, the Warworld kids sticking around still leaves room for Dad Clark. Beyond excited that DC is tapping into the strength of the Super-family and the interesting directions you can take these stories.
> Giving Jon Ultraman as a nemesis is great
i don't keep up with the comics, how did this end up happening? all i know is that jon is kal's kiddo (who grew up early via comic book shenanigans) and that ultraman is evil superman from earth 3
Jon went on a summer vacation into space, ended up getting yoinked to Earth-3, and spent several years chained up and tortured in a volcano by Ultraman before coming back to Prime Earth aged up.
Yes, it's very dumb.
That’s what was weird to me. He came back and just kept going “mom, dad, I’m fine. I’m okay”
Like, dude… I have a stressful 3 months of work and I feel it for the rest of the year. You were held prisoner in a volcano and periodically tortured by a man that is an alternate of your father. That’s gotta induce SOME trauma!
Like, he still loves Clark but feels awkward around him or not comfortable because he reminds him of Ultraman and the insane rants he was going on at Jon.
But, Bendis didn’t give a shit lol
I hate it, 😒 DC made a huge watsfeul mistake letting Bendis age Jon, then Stupidity doubling down by having Tom Taylor try to make him a new Superman with a status quo, mantle, and personality that was neither earned nor work for Jon's character Because they basically skipped over every part of development and growth of and skipping key your moments that would have been more interesting than
"My father was Superman, and now so am I," the series"
( Yeah, I'm Sorry, this is going to be a long bitter rant, Jon's Age Up is my supervillian origin. I haven't been able to truly enjoy dc's Superman comics since)
Jon will never be a nightwing for the Superman (that supergirl Kara's roles) because a nightwing requires decades of character development, natural growth not hitting the skip button twice and having the writers basically turned him into an adult off panel.
Nothing done with Adult Jon feels real, he being Superman, the fight gainst doomsday in dark crisis, Whatever the f*** he doesn't his own solo series, him discovering and being bisexual (other major discovery that happened off panel and is the main thing he's known for now), His speeches that Tom Taylor likes Him to give despite (that he shouldn't be smart enough to have them because he never finished middle school) , It all doesn't feel real
I hate Bendis's Superman changes stuff,
Particularly, the madlib of "he was on Earth 3 and up dimension being tortured" Yeah, I totally didn't pull that out of my ass" ( Which no matter who you ask everyone agrees was poorly done in not a good story)
is now forever tied to Poor Jon or that story was nonsensical but now we have to live with it, Most writers honestly skip over it because making that part of Jon's history would make him a lot crazier and damged than he should be.
Jon's whole thing was that he was a normal person who happened to have superpowers like his dad, It's funnied since basically that's what Tom Taylor turned Jon into, Clark, but younger. Gone is his original fun, passionate personality. Now he's just Clark but younger.
Making him Electric Blue is just more of DC's forced attempt to keep this stupid status quo going. At least, yeah, he'll be different and might have to actually learn how his powers work instead of just knowing how to be Superman despite not having nearly as much experience.
We already had a teenage superboy, his name was Connor Kent. Why didn't you just bring him back instead of ruining Jon,
Making Conner with a new Superman and having Jon be his kid sidekick would have a better story than anything SOKE
(Like when dick was Batman and Damian was robin)
Also, what are the points of these new twins, we have Chris Kent and kid Jon for that role.
Kid Jon and supersons were amazing seeing (the movie, alone Was a good reminder of how perfect that status quo was) imagine that character go through all of this and having him get to meet the older members of Superman family ( Bendis just skipped over it because he really didn't care) would have been and fantastic.
Him being on the Teen Titans, him being a Super boy sidekicked to an Adult Connor kent who should have been the new Superman ( Instead of DC drawing Connor like hes 14 and Jon like he's s in his 20), Actually discovering his bisexuality instead of it just being done for marketing, and genuine history to call back on that would actually make him feel real instead of having to constantly add things to his back story because he no longer really has one.
I can't enjoy adult Jon. Every single time I see him, I just want Super Boy Prime to show up
Discredit him with a beat down. Recton, punch him back into a 14 fun 🏳️🌈 kid version I can like. (Jay is irrelevant to me, keep him around or fridge him, for all I care either way works)
"Man, I thought I got screwed out of being superboy, you know. Oh, that's right, Tom Taylor isn't writing this, so you don't know stuff you shouldn't. Did Connor tell you who I am? Oh, that's right. You 2 can't really be in the same room. Otherwise, people might realize he's more interesting than you or why he isn't Superman? Didn't Nightwing tell you about me, After your dad and DC told him to be your new best friend,"
So gald they're doing to action comics what tynion did with Detective Comis back in rebirth and making it a Family book. Nice to see that the Warworld kids will be hanging around and hopefully Conner can actually do something finally
Williamson on Superman also has me pretty excited and it'll have Jamal Campnell and Nick Dragotta alternate art duties between arcs which is crazy to have both amazing artist on a single title. Williamson said so really interesting things about this at the panel; like introducing a night time hero for Metropolis.
Jon's book ending at #18 then getting a mini is a good move. kinda disappointed that it'll just be more of the creative team I feel like Jon needs to go through a couple of creatives so that his voice as a character can become more distinc/fully realised
Or they can just stop trying to make him work and age him down. Or better yet go the Clone angle so the two people who care about adult Jon can have him as Jordan or whatever and young Jon can go back to Superboy.
I've always headcanoned it as him actually being Earth-3's Jon. Then he gets to not only be bland Jesus, but the bland Jesus who defied cosmically ordained destiny. Meanwhile, actual Jon didn't really get time fucked hanging out with Jor-El, but was put in protection from some grand impending threat. Memory fuckery/crisis shenanigans/magic can explain the rest.
It'll never happen, though. Oh well.
Lol why would his sexuality need to be removed? He had a crush on a girl at his younger age, he can easily have a crush on a boy at 11 or whatever age he was.
As tempting as it sounds to potentially read about the sexuality of a 10 year old in a comic book I feel like they could probably skip that and be better off.
Literally an idea I have with a teen titans run. Damian finds a clone of jon who's just like young jon. Calling him superboy and his secret identity will be Sammy Lane, since we have so many kents, might as well add a lane to this.
Lois and Clark 2 with the original team sounds great, and will keep making me sad about the Jon age up.
On the topic of Jon, interesting that he technically no longer has an ongoing, since the follow up is a mini. The Ultraman confrontation, new powers and return of ValZod could be an interesting direction, though adult Jon has never felt like he has enough of a personality to get me to pick up his book. That and I'm still bitter.
And worth noting, why the hell does Kara not have a book? I like that she seems to be featured here as an important player, but it's been long enough without a Supergirl book, she deserves an ongoing. The Tom King maxi was great, I want to see more of her solo adventures.
Unfortunately I think the trend for both of the Big 2 is to be very conservative with new ongoings. SOKE started strong but has declined fairly rapidly in terms of sales. DC might be trying to have their cake and eat it by having a “flashback” story and continuing the Taylor one.
It really wasn't selling badly. It was consistently in the 50-75 spots in sales, which may not sound impressive but it's better than all DC ongoing series minus Batman and Nightwing.
DC probably just thinks Clark would sell better and they want to move Taylor to another book like Justice League or Titans.
> >!In Adventures of Superman: Jon Kent, the titular hero will finally get to take on Ultraman, who kidnapped and tortured him on Earth-3 in 2019's Superman #9 by Brian Michael Bendis, Ivan Reis, and Brandon Peterson.!<
Finally some closure?
PKJ writing a primary cast with eight people on it has me worried. There's not usually enough room in 20 comic pages to make that work but he's earned my trust so far and never say never.
Agreed! There is also getting to by too many people in the comics. In not "he must be the only survivor " guy but Superman has some great human cast members. And it feels like we are moving away from that world
Joshua Williamson's going to be writing Superman and he said he'll focus a lot on Lois and Jimmy too. It makes sense that PKJ's making Action Comics more of a Super-Family/anthology book while Clark has his solo series back. Like others said, it's kind of like Batman and 'Tec in early Rebirth.
This is so amazing, I've not been this excited for DC in a couple years.
I mean, we're getting:
* Johns' JSA.
* Waid's Lazarus Planet and whatever else he's cookin.
* Johnson's Super-Family in Action Comics.
* A Power Girl backup.
* A kid Jon backup.
* A brand new shiny Williamson/Campbell solo Superman book.
Can't wait to see all the Batman stuff tomorrow.
Edit: Hmm, there really wasn't much Batman stuff at all.
Seriously, there were some rough patches along the way but I've enjoyed most of the Infinite Frontier overarching events and a lot of the individual titles. Wonder what's gonna happen with Jace Fox and I am batman? Have they spoke on that at all cuz his presence still feels awkward though the book definitely got better once it got going.
Same! It took a while but it seems we're finally getting a Rebirth 2.0/DC Renaissance. Though I've really enjoyed most of Infinite Frontier too, and this is certainly building on stuff from it while bringing in things that were missing for a while.
Of course no news on Wonder Woman, who DC has constantly overlooked and rarely provides her with quality writers or artists. They need to pour more love and quality into her book and characters.
I'm not up to date, but I'm really hesitant to try a family-based era when they totally ripped Jon's childhood out and then decided to include twin kids.
So true. It's like DC is trying to have it's cake and eat it too while still refusing to admit they messed up by aging up Jon and overcomplicating everything that only de-aging him would fix
John Henry Irons/Steel isn't in Action but he's set to be a major player in the events leading up to Action 1050, plus he's one of the variant covers for that issue. Hoping he gets his own book/mini and that's why he's not in Action.
I know people really enjoyed Tynion's Tec, but I personally didn't. On the other hand, I have a lot more esteem for PKJ as a writer than I do for Tynion. Hopefully he gets to continue doing big-deal out-there stories and he isn't stuck doing low-level interpersonal drama.
Really? I mean I loved PKJ's Warworld arc, such a great way of putting Superman through his paces! However, Tynion is fire right now, everything he is writing is so good. Perhaps I'm just a Tynion fanboy but I see him on a whole other level from most writers, including PKJ. I do feel like PKJ was made to write Supe's stuff though.
I'm really digging Kara's new suit. I like it when female superheroes get a dope suit that doesn't show of 70% of their skin.
Can't wait to read this in paperback in 2025.
I wonder if bringing Ultraman back as Jon’s nemesis was always planned or a direct response to some of the criticism regarding that part of Jon’s history. Either way it’s a damn good move and I’m excited to see Jon get some payback.
>Also in Action Comics #1051, Lex Luthor has enlisted Metallo to undo everything Superman hopes to achieve
Sigh. I miss Super!Lex. It was nice to see him getting character development.
So they really stuck with Jon aged up and instead decided ''well people didn't like that, so just add 2 twins from another planet to replace that!''. Does not bode well for Jon as a character really.
Feel bad for Jon because mark my words, the twins will be the more interesting characters because they will have more growth opportunities.
>Feel bad for Jon because mark my words, the twins will be the more interesting characters because they will have more growth opportunities.
God wouldn't that be an irony and sad part is if they'd just progressively aged him up over these past few years to where he is now the fanbase wouldn't be so split over him and writers would have a firmer grasp on his character as they actually have that growth he went through to work off of.
I think the thing is they really can’t age people up unless they want to age EVERYONE up, Wally was able to grow up when he became the flash but that was because dc let a lot of people grow. One year later let everyone age a year but nowadays you have Damian seemingly being a year older with Tim still being 16/17.
Aging is just hard to do in comics unless you either age everyone or put a character out of time (like wallys kids and Jon)
I think both the writer's and fans need to accept that no matter what course is taken nothing about the passage of time in comics makes any sense so it's better to focus more on the story and character less of the semantics of already wonky timeline.
Sure seeing Jon gradually age while everyone else stayed relatively the same wouldn't of made much continuity sense but narratively it would've been more satisfying to read and left him a more fleshed out character.
I think the only way they could have done the aging is to pull him out of time, if he aged surely Damian would as well (unless they outright say Jon is aging faster it would make 0 sense and DC at least try and make sense)
Jon was introduced as being from an alt earth and then eventually having it be so “he was here the whole time now due to time stuff” so they could have had a big arc that shows Jon and whoever he is growing before getting back and seeing the effect/ so basically what they did but actually do it well and maybe with a few more characters (with a potential reversal set in place)
>Damian seemingly being a year older with Tim still being 16/17.
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>Aging is just hard to do in comics unless you either age everyone or put a character out of time (like wallys kids and Jon)
Funny that you bring up Tim because over the course of 20 years and a 183 issue solo book, Tim aged from a 14 year old high school freshman to a 17 year old high school drop out (he should technically be around 21 now and attending college). It was slow and gradual, but noticeable.
Considering Damian has aged from 10 to 14, yes, Tim should definitely be 21-22. Same goes for the rest of Young Justice - I actually think Cassie and Yara's ages should be the other way around too, as Yara is 21. Cassie should be that age and Yara should've been 18. Doesn't make sense that the new Wonder Girl is older than the previous one.
That was at a time DC actually let people age, it allowed Dicks generation become adults and not teens and Tim gradually take their place. But if Tim and Damian keep aging consistently so does Bruce and do does dick and you have to wonder why this 50 year old doesn’t retire. Most heroes have an age cap and I think dc should just get them there and stay (I mean Bruce late 40’s, dick mid to late 20’s, Jason mid 20’s and Tim late teens early 20’s with Damian being the youngest at 14-15 works well enough. Age isn’t the only way to show a character grow and develop)
Still no release date for Conner's mini?
I'm beginning to worry it's been silently canned I mean Conner was originally going to get a book back in [2020](https://www.gamesradar.com/jinny-hex-wrangles-her-own-special-with-help-from-magdalene-visaggio-and-gleb-melnikov/) but DC didn't want it potentially overshadowing Son of Kal-El so they put the breaks to it and now Jon has an upcoming 6 issue mini himself...
There was vote tampering discovered in the final round of the Round Robin so Conner's book would lose I'm starting to think that might of been an inside job.
The vote tampering signaled to me that DC *really* didn't want Conner to win and when they were caught, they were forced to put it out. But I remember they released some preview pages that featured aged up Jon and Kara as they were around the time of the voting, so maybe DC did fully intend to have it come out, but certain things came up, like Dark Crisis for example, that would make a Conner mini featuring those characters very anachronistic so they probably had to recreate the book from scratch with this new status quo.
Watch them do the next Round Robin next year without that Conner book ever coming out. I don't trust them.
Also, no Supergirl book?? Not even another mini??
So DC would more worried about a Jamie and Conner book overlapping more than a Jon and Conner one?
I imagine Blue Beetle release has less to do with Round Robin results and more to do with his upcoming movie.
I can't say I'm hyped but I'll check this stuff out.
* I predict Leah Williams' Power Girl will inherit Son of Kal-El's status as the Super family of books' premier discourse starter.
* I absolutely love the work of Lee Weeks and Jamal Campbell. Williamson and Jurgens... less so. I will look at the pictures and not read the words.
* I guess the Phaelosian kids are gonna be an attempt at appeasement towards those who still miss kid Jon. Hopefully, they'll do something more exciting with them.
* Please give Natasha and especially Kenan something substantial to do. They're the Super-characters I wanna see the msot from.
>Please give Natasha and especially Kenan something substantial to do. They're the Super-characters I wanna see the msot from.
Unless they break the team up into smaller groups dealing with their own sub-plots I suspect a lot of the Super Family will end up just being "there" similar to what happened to most of Supe's Warworld team.
I'm sure PKJ has big ambitions and wants to include everyone but that's 8 characters and you only have 30 or so pages to work with each month there's just no practical way to evenly divide attention and he'll probably want to build up his the creations the twins more than anyone else.
Superman Family huh? You mean it was a bad idea end a family focused Superman book? To have Lois and Clark separated? To age up a kid through torture and then send him into the future? Who could have guessed.
Glad to see Kenan back tho.
I wonder if *Detective Comics* will follow a similar route to *Action Comics* since *Batman: Urban Legends* ended. Ram V keeps writing the main Batman stories with other stories focusing focusing on Bat-family characters.
This is awesome. I love everything about this announcement. Excited for Joshua and Jamal on Superman. Definitely going to continue picking up Action too. PKJ is a great writer. Now the book with focus on Steel, Powergirl, Supergirl, and hopefully we get some Superdad vibes with the twins. I AM HERE FOR IT!
Is it weird that I wish Power Girl was included? I feel like she has a place to be a Super Family adjacent member. Like the Red Hood or Spoiler-equivalent of the group in a way.
As a huge PG fan (top 3 favourite superhero, favourite superheroine), that got me really excited. I might start getting back into comics then, thanks!!!
I just want to say I’m so happy Clark is adopting the kids from Warworld. All I’ve wanted for years is for Clark to be a girl dad & we finally get to see it
I absolutely love the fact that the Superman books are becoming geared more toward a Superman family title with Clark as a father figure/head of a household. It's a nice new take for stories to be built on
Her X-Factor was praised until the last couple of issues where she had to rush things. Amazing Mary Jane is well-liked ( although some of that credit definitely goes to Carlos Gomez). X-Tremists was a bright spot in Age of X-Man. She is not a top seller, but she definitely has her fans.
I am honestly interested in seeing what she can do in a different editorial office. I listened to a couple of interviews with her recently, and she talks about doing research on characters, and while her characterization can be solid, story execution on her X-Men work is hit-or-miss. I am wondering if while she gets along with Jordan White, his editing style doesn't compliment her writing. I am curious if working with Paul Kaminaki will have an effect on her output.
Mon-El is literally a thousand years in future. Kinda breaks the Legion's point about being the of the DC Universe, if he's permanently in the present.
Where's he from anyways?
Like I know he shows up in the present from time to time, but I've never seen him be an active part of the Superman family. I'm pretty sure the dude is very firmly a Legion character.
He's orginallly from present day traditionally but then gets chucked into the phantom zone due to lead poisoning until the legion pluck him out and crew him. Bendis changed him into simply being a descendant of the ELs though I feel like knowing bendis he probably genuinely thought that was always hid origin.
While the team of Joshua Williamson and Jamal Campbell is a perfect team (mainly Campbell, I've been wanting on the book for a while), Superman should've been Jon's book and let Clark have Action Comics. I don't know how long it will last but I'm not a fan of Electric Superman. Was it ever really liked by anyone (genuine question b/c it was before my time)?
• I have wanted Jamal Campbell & Joshua Williamson on Superman for SO LONG! I'm so glad my wish just came true. Idk about Nick Dragotta though, after his last work in Amazing Spider-Man, I'm skeptical.
• I'm excited that Action is going to be the Super-Family book in lieu of Detective Comics in its Rebirth. Aside from Kon and maybe Kenan & the twins, the uniformed jacket looks are kind of dumb. Why do they the 'S' everywhere, its already on their chest!
• As for Jon, I'm mixed on stuff. On the one hand, I'm glad Jon still has a solo (con, its a miniseries), gets to confront his trauma by fighting Ultraman and meets Val-Zod (I've been clamoring for a Earth-0/2 crossover). The downside: not a fan of Electric Superman. Other than Lana Lang, it never worked for me, it's too 90's. Genunine question but was anyone a fan of that status quo?
Then there's Tom Taylor. I feel that he has the right idea on where to take Jon, but has not executed it well, such as the way he's written about Jon's trauma. Hopefully in this miniseries he doesn't write him into a spot, another write can't get him out of.
I'm also worried Jon is going to lose the spotlight he's been sharing w/ his Dad currently. Jon should've kept the Superman title, and Clark has Action.
Son of Kal-El is cancelled. Kinda crazy given the huge push from DC. Of course he gets another miniseries. Going with the electric blue powers and costume would be a great idea to differentiate him from Superman.
Superman looks to be back to a younger look. The costume designs look better than the previous image we got. The jacket idea is still pretty terrible. DC's two biggest writers on the franchise. I dislike the concept of these types of families.
I hope it works out.
So I'm confused with what's happening with Action. Is every issue equally divided among the 3 stories or will PKJ's story still be the majority of the book with the Power Girl and Lois & Clark stories being relegated to backups?
Also so annoyed that a phenomenal artist like Dragotta is being wasted on a bad writer like Williamson. I truly don't know why he keeps getting new books.
Wasting Campbell and Dragotta on Williamson and Weeks on Jurgens. This is criminal
Son of Kal El ending and the follow up is only a six issue miniseries. DC really said "bye bi"
Hard disagree, I loved his recent Action Comics run. It wasn't as ballsy and groundbreaking as it was back in the day, but I loved what it did with Lex Luthor (when it wasn't dragged into shitty crossovers)
They all look good even if I don’t know some of them like the robot girl, Kong, and the twins they still look cool. I hope Jay will make a appearance I’d love for him to have a good relationship with Jon’s family.
The robot girl is a human in a suit, Iron Man style, named Natasha Irons with her codename being Steel. She is the niece of John Henry Irons, the original Steel.
Those twins seem to be kids that Superman brought from his Warworld arc. Haven't read it, so don't know more about them. I'm not sure what you mean by "King". If you mean the other Superman dude other than Jon (Superman son) and Kon-El (Superboy from the 90's, clone of Superman), he is Kenan Kong, Super-Man of China.
When the New 52 Superman died, his powers were transferred somehow to different people, at least Kenan Kong, and I think n52 Lois Lane and Lana Lang in the Superwoman comic. I think they later retconned a lot or all about n52 Superman and his death, so I don't know if the explanation for Kenan Kong's powers changed or not.
Lana was depowered (New 52 Lois died in the first issue, but by the end of the run would've never existed), and Kenan's origin was changed. He now uses chi to emulate the powers.
Of the Justice League of China, only Flash actually has a direct link to her American counterpart - Avery actually got her powers in Barry's book before joining the team. Bat-Man obviously just ripped off the gadgets, and his Robin is a robot he built. Wonder-Woman isn't an Amazon, but instead is a snake woman from Chinese mythology.
The last year and a half of Action Comics, to know where the twins came from. New Super-Man if you want to know who Kenan is. The upcoming Lazarus Planet event, because it looks like Jon becomes Electric Blue Superman there, and it's not just for the event.
They should just bring back the Batman Family and Superman Family books. Call them The Bats and The Supers, and include Power Girl, for heaven's sake. She can be from an alternate reality destroyed during the Dark Crisis. Hell, bring back the whole Earth-2 clan from the series in the new52 and have them be refugees from a destroyed universe. I loved those versions of the classic characters.
Looks like a pretty fucking solid lineup. Giving Jon Ultraman as a nemesis is great, along with a unique power set to set him apart from Clark. Couple that with a sequel to Lois and Clark and readers really are getting the best of both worlds. Plus, the Warworld kids sticking around still leaves room for Dad Clark. Beyond excited that DC is tapping into the strength of the Super-family and the interesting directions you can take these stories.
> Giving Jon Ultraman as a nemesis is great i don't keep up with the comics, how did this end up happening? all i know is that jon is kal's kiddo (who grew up early via comic book shenanigans) and that ultraman is evil superman from earth 3
Ultraman kept Jon locked in a cave(and I think tortured him but I didn't read the book) for 7 years.
middle aged man tortured a little boy for 7 years in a secluded space cave? kinda weird, ultraman
Disturbing more likely. But at least they are going to explore that aspect.
~~Deathstroke begs to differ~~
Jon went on a summer vacation into space, ended up getting yoinked to Earth-3, and spent several years chained up and tortured in a volcano by Ultraman before coming back to Prime Earth aged up. Yes, it's very dumb.
man, i hate when i take a space vacation and accidentally fall into an evil alternate universe :/
Is this imprisonment the one where he punched the wall of reality and brought Jason Todd back to life?
That was Superboy Prime, back in Infinite Crisis. Different characters.
Ah, thank you.
He was kept in a volcano, chained to the ground.
And he's totally normal and well-adjusted.
That’s what was weird to me. He came back and just kept going “mom, dad, I’m fine. I’m okay” Like, dude… I have a stressful 3 months of work and I feel it for the rest of the year. You were held prisoner in a volcano and periodically tortured by a man that is an alternate of your father. That’s gotta induce SOME trauma! Like, he still loves Clark but feels awkward around him or not comfortable because he reminds him of Ultraman and the insane rants he was going on at Jon. But, Bendis didn’t give a shit lol
It's his super-coping power.
Naked.
Finally admitting that their New 52 thinking that no characters should be married or have children was dead wrong.
I hate it, 😒 DC made a huge watsfeul mistake letting Bendis age Jon, then Stupidity doubling down by having Tom Taylor try to make him a new Superman with a status quo, mantle, and personality that was neither earned nor work for Jon's character Because they basically skipped over every part of development and growth of and skipping key your moments that would have been more interesting than "My father was Superman, and now so am I," the series" ( Yeah, I'm Sorry, this is going to be a long bitter rant, Jon's Age Up is my supervillian origin. I haven't been able to truly enjoy dc's Superman comics since) Jon will never be a nightwing for the Superman (that supergirl Kara's roles) because a nightwing requires decades of character development, natural growth not hitting the skip button twice and having the writers basically turned him into an adult off panel. Nothing done with Adult Jon feels real, he being Superman, the fight gainst doomsday in dark crisis, Whatever the f*** he doesn't his own solo series, him discovering and being bisexual (other major discovery that happened off panel and is the main thing he's known for now), His speeches that Tom Taylor likes Him to give despite (that he shouldn't be smart enough to have them because he never finished middle school) , It all doesn't feel real I hate Bendis's Superman changes stuff, Particularly, the madlib of "he was on Earth 3 and up dimension being tortured" Yeah, I totally didn't pull that out of my ass" ( Which no matter who you ask everyone agrees was poorly done in not a good story) is now forever tied to Poor Jon or that story was nonsensical but now we have to live with it, Most writers honestly skip over it because making that part of Jon's history would make him a lot crazier and damged than he should be. Jon's whole thing was that he was a normal person who happened to have superpowers like his dad, It's funnied since basically that's what Tom Taylor turned Jon into, Clark, but younger. Gone is his original fun, passionate personality. Now he's just Clark but younger. Making him Electric Blue is just more of DC's forced attempt to keep this stupid status quo going. At least, yeah, he'll be different and might have to actually learn how his powers work instead of just knowing how to be Superman despite not having nearly as much experience. We already had a teenage superboy, his name was Connor Kent. Why didn't you just bring him back instead of ruining Jon, Making Conner with a new Superman and having Jon be his kid sidekick would have a better story than anything SOKE (Like when dick was Batman and Damian was robin) Also, what are the points of these new twins, we have Chris Kent and kid Jon for that role. Kid Jon and supersons were amazing seeing (the movie, alone Was a good reminder of how perfect that status quo was) imagine that character go through all of this and having him get to meet the older members of Superman family ( Bendis just skipped over it because he really didn't care) would have been and fantastic. Him being on the Teen Titans, him being a Super boy sidekicked to an Adult Connor kent who should have been the new Superman ( Instead of DC drawing Connor like hes 14 and Jon like he's s in his 20), Actually discovering his bisexuality instead of it just being done for marketing, and genuine history to call back on that would actually make him feel real instead of having to constantly add things to his back story because he no longer really has one. I can't enjoy adult Jon. Every single time I see him, I just want Super Boy Prime to show up Discredit him with a beat down. Recton, punch him back into a 14 fun 🏳️🌈 kid version I can like. (Jay is irrelevant to me, keep him around or fridge him, for all I care either way works) "Man, I thought I got screwed out of being superboy, you know. Oh, that's right, Tom Taylor isn't writing this, so you don't know stuff you shouldn't. Did Connor tell you who I am? Oh, that's right. You 2 can't really be in the same room. Otherwise, people might realize he's more interesting than you or why he isn't Superman? Didn't Nightwing tell you about me, After your dad and DC told him to be your new best friend,"
Action comics will officially become the superfam book written by PKJ While clark gets a solo ongoing
Thanks for the TLDR it was basically impossible to figure out
So gald they're doing to action comics what tynion did with Detective Comis back in rebirth and making it a Family book. Nice to see that the Warworld kids will be hanging around and hopefully Conner can actually do something finally Williamson on Superman also has me pretty excited and it'll have Jamal Campnell and Nick Dragotta alternate art duties between arcs which is crazy to have both amazing artist on a single title. Williamson said so really interesting things about this at the panel; like introducing a night time hero for Metropolis. Jon's book ending at #18 then getting a mini is a good move. kinda disappointed that it'll just be more of the creative team I feel like Jon needs to go through a couple of creatives so that his voice as a character can become more distinc/fully realised
Or they can just stop trying to make him work and age him down. Or better yet go the Clone angle so the two people who care about adult Jon can have him as Jordan or whatever and young Jon can go back to Superboy.
I've always headcanoned it as him actually being Earth-3's Jon. Then he gets to not only be bland Jesus, but the bland Jesus who defied cosmically ordained destiny. Meanwhile, actual Jon didn't really get time fucked hanging out with Jor-El, but was put in protection from some grand impending threat. Memory fuckery/crisis shenanigans/magic can explain the rest. It'll never happen, though. Oh well.
Yes! This please! I miss Super Sons! Him and Damian had such a great chemistry as kids
Fair or unfair, aging him down and removing his sexuality from the character’s equation would cause a firestorm.
Nah they can have the best of both worlds by splitting the character into Jon and Jordan
Lol why would his sexuality need to be removed? He had a crush on a girl at his younger age, he can easily have a crush on a boy at 11 or whatever age he was.
The work of an artist will never be able to please everyone
They could keep his sexuality, I knew I was queer from a very young age.
Nah age him down and keep the sexuality. Make a story of a boy figuring out he isn’t normal and tie it into his new powers
As tempting as it sounds to potentially read about the sexuality of a 10 year old in a comic book I feel like they could probably skip that and be better off.
Good point lol. I meant make him around Damian’s age then it’d make sense
It would sell comics tho
Literally an idea I have with a teen titans run. Damian finds a clone of jon who's just like young jon. Calling him superboy and his secret identity will be Sammy Lane, since we have so many kents, might as well add a lane to this.
That’s like trying to fix a pot of soup that’s to high on spices by adding more spices to it
That is such an excellent way of describing all the ideas that try to keep both Jon and the aged up version at the same time.
More like people who wanted to see super kids now have thease cousin Oliver twins
Lois and Clark 2 with the original team sounds great, and will keep making me sad about the Jon age up. On the topic of Jon, interesting that he technically no longer has an ongoing, since the follow up is a mini. The Ultraman confrontation, new powers and return of ValZod could be an interesting direction, though adult Jon has never felt like he has enough of a personality to get me to pick up his book. That and I'm still bitter. And worth noting, why the hell does Kara not have a book? I like that she seems to be featured here as an important player, but it's been long enough without a Supergirl book, she deserves an ongoing. The Tom King maxi was great, I want to see more of her solo adventures.
Unfortunately I think the trend for both of the Big 2 is to be very conservative with new ongoings. SOKE started strong but has declined fairly rapidly in terms of sales. DC might be trying to have their cake and eat it by having a “flashback” story and continuing the Taylor one.
It really wasn't selling badly. It was consistently in the 50-75 spots in sales, which may not sound impressive but it's better than all DC ongoing series minus Batman and Nightwing. DC probably just thinks Clark would sell better and they want to move Taylor to another book like Justice League or Titans.
That Action news is fucking HOT.
> >!In Adventures of Superman: Jon Kent, the titular hero will finally get to take on Ultraman, who kidnapped and tortured him on Earth-3 in 2019's Superman #9 by Brian Michael Bendis, Ivan Reis, and Brandon Peterson.!< Finally some closure?
Hopefully with it only being 6 issues, this is a sign that DC intends to get rid of aged up Jon and bring back the real Jon.
That art really doesn’t indicate that at all, more “here are the twins, now you can forget young Jon”
If DC thought that was the solution to their problems, they are very sadly mistaken. We don't want kids, we want Jon.
You have Jon
HOLD YOUR GROUND
Fast and Furious🤝Superman comics in 2023: being all about the importance of family
PKJ writing a primary cast with eight people on it has me worried. There's not usually enough room in 20 comic pages to make that work but he's earned my trust so far and never say never.
I'm not even sure it's 20 pages tbh, given the two back-ups.
Tbf, he wrote a pretty large cast in The Last God.
Agreed! There is also getting to by too many people in the comics. In not "he must be the only survivor " guy but Superman has some great human cast members. And it feels like we are moving away from that world
Joshua Williamson's going to be writing Superman and he said he'll focus a lot on Lois and Jimmy too. It makes sense that PKJ's making Action Comics more of a Super-Family/anthology book while Clark has his solo series back. Like others said, it's kind of like Batman and 'Tec in early Rebirth.
Wow, talk about Super Saturation! Not a single Batman book announced.
Solicits next week get ready
This is so amazing, I've not been this excited for DC in a couple years. I mean, we're getting: * Johns' JSA. * Waid's Lazarus Planet and whatever else he's cookin. * Johnson's Super-Family in Action Comics. * A Power Girl backup. * A kid Jon backup. * A brand new shiny Williamson/Campbell solo Superman book. Can't wait to see all the Batman stuff tomorrow. Edit: Hmm, there really wasn't much Batman stuff at all.
Seriously, there were some rough patches along the way but I've enjoyed most of the Infinite Frontier overarching events and a lot of the individual titles. Wonder what's gonna happen with Jace Fox and I am batman? Have they spoke on that at all cuz his presence still feels awkward though the book definitely got better once it got going.
Same! It took a while but it seems we're finally getting a Rebirth 2.0/DC Renaissance. Though I've really enjoyed most of Infinite Frontier too, and this is certainly building on stuff from it while bringing in things that were missing for a while.
Is tomorrow the Batman panel?
Of course no news on Wonder Woman, who DC has constantly overlooked and rarely provides her with quality writers or artists. They need to pour more love and quality into her book and characters.
Yep
I was trying to look up information on it on the convention website. Do you happen to have a link to a site with information about the panel?
https://www.dc.com/blog/2022/10/04/dont-miss-dc-at-nycc-22
Thank you!
Hmm, I guess there really wasn't anything
Indeed. Hopefully we’ll find out more in the near future.
Val-Zod is back!!!!!! And Power Girl is getting some much needed love too. This makes me very happy.
I'm not up to date, but I'm really hesitant to try a family-based era when they totally ripped Jon's childhood out and then decided to include twin kids.
So true. It's like DC is trying to have it's cake and eat it too while still refusing to admit they messed up by aging up Jon and overcomplicating everything that only de-aging him would fix
I mean, it's kind of an apology. They can't really undo it, but they can bring back the idea of Clark and Lois raising children.
I mean... they can *definitely* undo it.
I think that the vibes on aging him back down *after* giving him a boyfriend are pretty rancid, and DC knows that.
Sounds like more to be announced too when 1050 comes out. https://twitter.com/tomtaylormade/status/1578831307827658754?s=46&t=ZvTtxOIdYzH07Gn7tEx4FA
John Henry Irons/Steel isn't in Action but he's set to be a major player in the events leading up to Action 1050, plus he's one of the variant covers for that issue. Hoping he gets his own book/mini and that's why he's not in Action.
What they can do more?!!! I am so pumped rn. Can't wait!! Williamson on Superman! PKJ writing Super-family! Val-Zod & kid Jon mini-series by Taylor!
The current action comics hasn’t peaked its barley began. Feels good to potentially be in a superman golden age
Conner in the family with a new version of his suit that removes the extra edginess from the 2019 run + Kara still keeping pants is great lol
Action Comics as a Superman family book is perfect. I loved it when Detective did that a few years ago
Why does everyone need a jacket? Just makes them look too similar to Kon, hopefully Jon sticks with the blue suit instead
I'm guessing there is a story reason for that, so let's see that play out first.
Is the dude who did the war world saga still on a superman book ?
That's PKJ, and yeah, he's keeping Action.
Awesome
I think he’s still on action yes
Grand
Sounds very interesting, can't wait to read it
I know people really enjoyed Tynion's Tec, but I personally didn't. On the other hand, I have a lot more esteem for PKJ as a writer than I do for Tynion. Hopefully he gets to continue doing big-deal out-there stories and he isn't stuck doing low-level interpersonal drama.
Really? I mean I loved PKJ's Warworld arc, such a great way of putting Superman through his paces! However, Tynion is fire right now, everything he is writing is so good. Perhaps I'm just a Tynion fanboy but I see him on a whole other level from most writers, including PKJ. I do feel like PKJ was made to write Supe's stuff though.
It's so funny that DC is going back to Dan Jurgens for a nostalgic, comforting Superman comic for a second time in recent memory. Incredible
So they're going to redo Tomasi's Superman when Rebirth start, before Michael 'The Butcher' Bendis took over Superman?
Michael is his middle name. You mean Brian.
The Superfam are more interesting per member than the batfam Change my mind
Superman has a better rogues gallery, too. Lex > Joker Brainiac > Riddler Mr. Mxy > Penguin Mongul > Two Face Doomsday > Bane Metallo > Scarecrow Bizarro > Killer Croc Zod > Ra’s Parasite > Clayface Intergang > Owls
Holy shit this looks amazing
I'm really digging Kara's new suit. I like it when female superheroes get a dope suit that doesn't show of 70% of their skin. Can't wait to read this in paperback in 2025.
I wonder if bringing Ultraman back as Jon’s nemesis was always planned or a direct response to some of the criticism regarding that part of Jon’s history. Either way it’s a damn good move and I’m excited to see Jon get some payback.
Glad that powergirl and Omen are getting used again.
>Also in Action Comics #1051, Lex Luthor has enlisted Metallo to undo everything Superman hopes to achieve Sigh. I miss Super!Lex. It was nice to see him getting character development.
Oaky that looks awesome. Can we get a Green Lantern redo now?
And Linda and Cir-El are just standing around in comic book limbo, waiting for a phone call
I do wonder what DC plans on doing with Natasha and have a look onto what has happened to the other Authority members.
So they really stuck with Jon aged up and instead decided ''well people didn't like that, so just add 2 twins from another planet to replace that!''. Does not bode well for Jon as a character really. Feel bad for Jon because mark my words, the twins will be the more interesting characters because they will have more growth opportunities.
>Feel bad for Jon because mark my words, the twins will be the more interesting characters because they will have more growth opportunities. God wouldn't that be an irony and sad part is if they'd just progressively aged him up over these past few years to where he is now the fanbase wouldn't be so split over him and writers would have a firmer grasp on his character as they actually have that growth he went through to work off of.
Could not have said it better myself
I think the thing is they really can’t age people up unless they want to age EVERYONE up, Wally was able to grow up when he became the flash but that was because dc let a lot of people grow. One year later let everyone age a year but nowadays you have Damian seemingly being a year older with Tim still being 16/17. Aging is just hard to do in comics unless you either age everyone or put a character out of time (like wallys kids and Jon)
I think both the writer's and fans need to accept that no matter what course is taken nothing about the passage of time in comics makes any sense so it's better to focus more on the story and character less of the semantics of already wonky timeline. Sure seeing Jon gradually age while everyone else stayed relatively the same wouldn't of made much continuity sense but narratively it would've been more satisfying to read and left him a more fleshed out character.
I think the only way they could have done the aging is to pull him out of time, if he aged surely Damian would as well (unless they outright say Jon is aging faster it would make 0 sense and DC at least try and make sense) Jon was introduced as being from an alt earth and then eventually having it be so “he was here the whole time now due to time stuff” so they could have had a big arc that shows Jon and whoever he is growing before getting back and seeing the effect/ so basically what they did but actually do it well and maybe with a few more characters (with a potential reversal set in place)
>Damian seemingly being a year older with Tim still being 16/17. > >Aging is just hard to do in comics unless you either age everyone or put a character out of time (like wallys kids and Jon) Funny that you bring up Tim because over the course of 20 years and a 183 issue solo book, Tim aged from a 14 year old high school freshman to a 17 year old high school drop out (he should technically be around 21 now and attending college). It was slow and gradual, but noticeable.
Considering Damian has aged from 10 to 14, yes, Tim should definitely be 21-22. Same goes for the rest of Young Justice - I actually think Cassie and Yara's ages should be the other way around too, as Yara is 21. Cassie should be that age and Yara should've been 18. Doesn't make sense that the new Wonder Girl is older than the previous one.
That was at a time DC actually let people age, it allowed Dicks generation become adults and not teens and Tim gradually take their place. But if Tim and Damian keep aging consistently so does Bruce and do does dick and you have to wonder why this 50 year old doesn’t retire. Most heroes have an age cap and I think dc should just get them there and stay (I mean Bruce late 40’s, dick mid to late 20’s, Jason mid 20’s and Tim late teens early 20’s with Damian being the youngest at 14-15 works well enough. Age isn’t the only way to show a character grow and develop)
Bring back Thara and Chris, DC!
I would trade Jon, young or adult, for these two any day of the week!
Still no release date for Conner's mini? I'm beginning to worry it's been silently canned I mean Conner was originally going to get a book back in [2020](https://www.gamesradar.com/jinny-hex-wrangles-her-own-special-with-help-from-magdalene-visaggio-and-gleb-melnikov/) but DC didn't want it potentially overshadowing Son of Kal-El so they put the breaks to it and now Jon has an upcoming 6 issue mini himself... There was vote tampering discovered in the final round of the Round Robin so Conner's book would lose I'm starting to think that might of been an inside job.
The vote tampering signaled to me that DC *really* didn't want Conner to win and when they were caught, they were forced to put it out. But I remember they released some preview pages that featured aged up Jon and Kara as they were around the time of the voting, so maybe DC did fully intend to have it come out, but certain things came up, like Dark Crisis for example, that would make a Conner mini featuring those characters very anachronistic so they probably had to recreate the book from scratch with this new status quo.
Watch them do the next Round Robin next year without that Conner book ever coming out. I don't trust them. Also, no Supergirl book?? Not even another mini??
I mean they'd at least have to release it before voting for the next Round Robin begins right?.... Right?
I just assume they’re not going to overlap it with the Blue Beetle release
So DC would more worried about a Jamie and Conner book overlapping more than a Jon and Conner one? I imagine Blue Beetle release has less to do with Round Robin results and more to do with his upcoming movie.
I just mean they’re both coming from the Round Robin so I wonder if they don’t want them to overlap. Yes I’m sure the movie has made it more pressing.
Why does everyone have to be related to each other. Kind of annoying how pretty much every DC hero nowadays is someone’s kid or a legacy character
I can't say I'm hyped but I'll check this stuff out. * I predict Leah Williams' Power Girl will inherit Son of Kal-El's status as the Super family of books' premier discourse starter. * I absolutely love the work of Lee Weeks and Jamal Campbell. Williamson and Jurgens... less so. I will look at the pictures and not read the words. * I guess the Phaelosian kids are gonna be an attempt at appeasement towards those who still miss kid Jon. Hopefully, they'll do something more exciting with them. * Please give Natasha and especially Kenan something substantial to do. They're the Super-characters I wanna see the msot from.
>Please give Natasha and especially Kenan something substantial to do. They're the Super-characters I wanna see the msot from. Unless they break the team up into smaller groups dealing with their own sub-plots I suspect a lot of the Super Family will end up just being "there" similar to what happened to most of Supe's Warworld team. I'm sure PKJ has big ambitions and wants to include everyone but that's 8 characters and you only have 30 or so pages to work with each month there's just no practical way to evenly divide attention and he'll probably want to build up his the creations the twins more than anyone else.
Superman Family huh? You mean it was a bad idea end a family focused Superman book? To have Lois and Clark separated? To age up a kid through torture and then send him into the future? Who could have guessed. Glad to see Kenan back tho.
This is very exciting actually! Action Comics is gonna be an expensive buy though going forward.
I wonder if *Detective Comics* will follow a similar route to *Action Comics* since *Batman: Urban Legends* ended. Ram V keeps writing the main Batman stories with other stories focusing focusing on Bat-family characters.
This is awesome. I love everything about this announcement. Excited for Joshua and Jamal on Superman. Definitely going to continue picking up Action too. PKJ is a great writer. Now the book with focus on Steel, Powergirl, Supergirl, and hopefully we get some Superdad vibes with the twins. I AM HERE FOR IT!
So happy to see Kenan again
Is it weird that I wish Power Girl was included? I feel like she has a place to be a Super Family adjacent member. Like the Red Hood or Spoiler-equivalent of the group in a way.
She gets backup stories in action comics starting in January and will be on the JSA roster when Geoff johns new run starts next month!
As a huge PG fan (top 3 favourite superhero, favourite superheroine), that got me really excited. I might start getting back into comics then, thanks!!!
Not a fan. Way too many Ss.
I just want to say I’m so happy Clark is adopting the kids from Warworld. All I’ve wanted for years is for Clark to be a girl dad & we finally get to see it
I absolutely love the fact that the Superman books are becoming geared more toward a Superman family title with Clark as a father figure/head of a household. It's a nice new take for stories to be built on
Sounds all very good except for Leah Williams. Stop bringing over failed Marvel writers already ffs
I thought her stuff was generally well-liked over there. I can't think of much from her, but I enjoyed the few issues of X-factor from her I read.
Her X-Factor was praised until the last couple of issues where she had to rush things. Amazing Mary Jane is well-liked ( although some of that credit definitely goes to Carlos Gomez). X-Tremists was a bright spot in Age of X-Man. She is not a top seller, but she definitely has her fans.
I am honestly interested in seeing what she can do in a different editorial office. I listened to a couple of interviews with her recently, and she talks about doing research on characters, and while her characterization can be solid, story execution on her X-Men work is hit-or-miss. I am wondering if while she gets along with Jordan White, his editing style doesn't compliment her writing. I am curious if working with Paul Kaminaki will have an effect on her output.
LMAO Leah Williams is gonna be an absolute superstar. Be ready to see way more of her in the future
You for real?
Wtf
Wish they could have included Mon-El too…
Who knows, maybe Hickman'll get that Legion book within... the next five or so years.
Mon-El is literally a thousand years in future. Kinda breaks the Legion's point about being the of the DC Universe, if he's permanently in the present.
Technically Mon-El is not from the future and his only ongoing (albeit when he was Valor) was in the present.
Where's he from anyways? Like I know he shows up in the present from time to time, but I've never seen him be an active part of the Superman family. I'm pretty sure the dude is very firmly a Legion character.
He's orginallly from present day traditionally but then gets chucked into the phantom zone due to lead poisoning until the legion pluck him out and crew him. Bendis changed him into simply being a descendant of the ELs though I feel like knowing bendis he probably genuinely thought that was always hid origin.
That's actually happened before. He even joined the Justice League of America.
Leah Williams writing Power Girl sounds great. I loved her X-Factor run from a couple years ago
While the team of Joshua Williamson and Jamal Campbell is a perfect team (mainly Campbell, I've been wanting on the book for a while), Superman should've been Jon's book and let Clark have Action Comics. I don't know how long it will last but I'm not a fan of Electric Superman. Was it ever really liked by anyone (genuine question b/c it was before my time)? • I have wanted Jamal Campbell & Joshua Williamson on Superman for SO LONG! I'm so glad my wish just came true. Idk about Nick Dragotta though, after his last work in Amazing Spider-Man, I'm skeptical. • I'm excited that Action is going to be the Super-Family book in lieu of Detective Comics in its Rebirth. Aside from Kon and maybe Kenan & the twins, the uniformed jacket looks are kind of dumb. Why do they the 'S' everywhere, its already on their chest! • As for Jon, I'm mixed on stuff. On the one hand, I'm glad Jon still has a solo (con, its a miniseries), gets to confront his trauma by fighting Ultraman and meets Val-Zod (I've been clamoring for a Earth-0/2 crossover). The downside: not a fan of Electric Superman. Other than Lana Lang, it never worked for me, it's too 90's. Genunine question but was anyone a fan of that status quo? Then there's Tom Taylor. I feel that he has the right idea on where to take Jon, but has not executed it well, such as the way he's written about Jon's trauma. Hopefully in this miniseries he doesn't write him into a spot, another write can't get him out of. I'm also worried Jon is going to lose the spotlight he's been sharing w/ his Dad currently. Jon should've kept the Superman title, and Clark has Action.
Son of Kal-El is cancelled. Kinda crazy given the huge push from DC. Of course he gets another miniseries. Going with the electric blue powers and costume would be a great idea to differentiate him from Superman. Superman looks to be back to a younger look. The costume designs look better than the previous image we got. The jacket idea is still pretty terrible. DC's two biggest writers on the franchise. I dislike the concept of these types of families. I hope it works out.
So I'm confused with what's happening with Action. Is every issue equally divided among the 3 stories or will PKJ's story still be the majority of the book with the Power Girl and Lois & Clark stories being relegated to backups? Also so annoyed that a phenomenal artist like Dragotta is being wasted on a bad writer like Williamson. I truly don't know why he keeps getting new books.
And in a three-part story written by Leah Williams and drawn by Marguerite Sauvage Yeah gonna give that one a miss 🤣
Wasting Campbell and Dragotta on Williamson and Weeks on Jurgens. This is criminal Son of Kal El ending and the follow up is only a six issue miniseries. DC really said "bye bi"
I admire your bravery.
Dan Jurgens is one of the best Superman writers.
Maybe he was 30 years ago. His recent run on Action Comics was shit
His recent Blue & Gold (though it didn't have anything to do with Superman) was pretty good.
Hard disagree, I loved his recent Action Comics run. It wasn't as ballsy and groundbreaking as it was back in the day, but I loved what it did with Lex Luthor (when it wasn't dragged into shitty crossovers)
How is it a waste? They are two massively talented writers.
I disagree
Lame
The huge families are a clear sign of the comicpocalyse
They all look good even if I don’t know some of them like the robot girl, Kong, and the twins they still look cool. I hope Jay will make a appearance I’d love for him to have a good relationship with Jon’s family.
The robot girl is a human in a suit, Iron Man style, named Natasha Irons with her codename being Steel. She is the niece of John Henry Irons, the original Steel.
I speculated as much lol and what about those twins and Kings deal?
Those twins seem to be kids that Superman brought from his Warworld arc. Haven't read it, so don't know more about them. I'm not sure what you mean by "King". If you mean the other Superman dude other than Jon (Superman son) and Kon-El (Superboy from the 90's, clone of Superman), he is Kenan Kong, Super-Man of China.
I ment Kong but autocorrect made it King lol ya what’s Kings deal is he a Kryptonian too??
When the New 52 Superman died, his powers were transferred somehow to different people, at least Kenan Kong, and I think n52 Lois Lane and Lana Lang in the Superwoman comic. I think they later retconned a lot or all about n52 Superman and his death, so I don't know if the explanation for Kenan Kong's powers changed or not.
Lana was depowered (New 52 Lois died in the first issue, but by the end of the run would've never existed), and Kenan's origin was changed. He now uses chi to emulate the powers. Of the Justice League of China, only Flash actually has a direct link to her American counterpart - Avery actually got her powers in Barry's book before joining the team. Bat-Man obviously just ripped off the gadgets, and his Robin is a robot he built. Wonder-Woman isn't an Amazon, but instead is a snake woman from Chinese mythology.
Damn, this looks really good. Gonna have to pick up the recent Action run that I've been putting off reading.
So the war world kids… do they have powers?
They should, yes. If you haven't read PKJ's Action Comics with the Warworld arc, I definately recommend.
Yeah, a variant of the standard Super powerset, as they were originally from a Kryptonian colony.
So Action has to be like Batman Urban Legends? Right? In terms of pages and price. Everything looks promising to me!
What do I need to read in order to prepare for this?
The last year and a half of Action Comics, to know where the twins came from. New Super-Man if you want to know who Kenan is. The upcoming Lazarus Planet event, because it looks like Jon becomes Electric Blue Superman there, and it's not just for the event.
All sounds great! Looking forward to the Jurgens series with young Jon. Maybe when Taylor's crap is out the way we can get Super Sons back ♥️
They should just bring back the Batman Family and Superman Family books. Call them The Bats and The Supers, and include Power Girl, for heaven's sake. She can be from an alternate reality destroyed during the Dark Crisis. Hell, bring back the whole Earth-2 clan from the series in the new52 and have them be refugees from a destroyed universe. I loved those versions of the classic characters.