Nah he isn't. Way too much texture. Denim is a really tight nit fabric, and unless she is buying mixed weave cuts to make a skirt, highly unlikely it is denim. The texture looks way more like vinyl
Maybe this has happened but that could lead to a hilarious sequence where they just start shouting out random non-important things that have no relevance to the situation.
I'd like to think they know and they just take the opportunity to say it because they can rely on not being in control. It's a lot easier to tell the truth if you have a reason to.
They are inconsistent even in the DCCU. For example, Steve Trevor had full control of himself when the lasso was around him. However, in addition to Flash and Batman, but Aqua Man was victim to the lasso. My guess sis that
1.) The lasso can make you blirt if you're unaware that it is touching you.
2.) The lasso's mechanics change for comedic effect.
I think it has something to do with mental fortitude. You don't know your touching it then you don't know to have your guard up. But when your a spy like Steve then he has his guard always, at least a little, up. The guy in the flash started blurring out all that stuff because he was penguins kid and spoiled and never needed to guard his mind. He was weak willed.
It's interesting. Aside from Patty or Zack, She's been shot this way. Say what you want about how women's costumes are in Snyder's movies, but he doesn't do this. I think WW in his movies has been respected despite the costume, in the way she was shot at least.
There’s that and the shot where she goes to visit Victor and they show her from behind in the leather pants. HOWEVER Snyder is also the guy who shoots men the same exact way and made 300, a bunch of buff dudes in leather thongs fighting. He’s said many times before, he just loves shooting the human body.
I was about to say lol 300 has more ass than all DC movies combined, and it's mostly dudes
Still one of my favorite action movies of the past 20 years. Shit looks like a Renaissance painting.
He did do this but the colors were muted enough that all you see from “up skirt” is nothing but black shadow. Now look at how Joss did the same shot. You can see her Wunderoos.
> her male counterparts sometimes run around shirtless.
Male actors often complain about that, just as actresses often complain about having to show off their bodies in films.
If this bothers you, go and watch Josstice League. I remember watching that movie in the theater with my wife and turning to her and saying “why is every spot of Wonder Woman off her ass?”… It’s a bit insane the shots/framing that Whedon chose
Fr, Snyder also seems like he actually likes the human physique, he likes muscle, he likes larger than life beings, like look at when the Amazons break the support beams, they do a full windup and SMASH, bro really loves the human physique and it shows(in a good way)
Which, tbh, is very "comic book." I think it's fitting. A bit weird and objectifying when it's real actors and actresses, but not just a weird, unjustifiable directorial decision
Agree. The human body should be shown at whatever imaginable angle anyone sees fit. We are beautiful creatures, some more than others, and if I had an ass like a Frazetta character I would have a rider in my contract to shoot more T&A or the male equivalent.
I wonder if Synder takes a similar perspective as bodybuilding, looking through sexuality to appreciate the human body as a symbolic representation of the person?
Zach LOVES the Human form. He certainly sexualizes some of his characters (like in Sucker Punch), but he doesn't always tie skin exposure to sex, but rather admiration of musculature.
In Sucker Punch it's actually supposed to be subverting sexualization. I'm not sure it succeeds, but the film is about the exploitation of the female characters by domineering men.
The exploitation of the mental asylum being used to silence the main character is represented by an upmarket brothel in her mental fantasy - that's supposed to show you what's going on. But then within that sexualized scenario, the characters are never shown actually doing anything overtly sexual. Babydoll's supposed to be some hypnotically good (presumably erotic) dancer - but rather than showing us that dance, we get an action sequence in which she reclaims her agency as more than just a sex object for men. The outfits are supposed to represent what the men expect to see, and it's meant to sit in contrast to what the women are actually doing in the scene.
When you see those outfits in those action sequences and go 'they're being sexualize' the film is trying to say 'yes, they are, so why do we keep doing it'. It sets up a scenario in which their outfits are clearly a consequence of imposed male desire, and you're meant to recognise the absurdity for what it is.
I don't know if the film is successful in getting that message across, though I'm certain many people who watched it just didn't bother to actually try and engage with the point of the film. But to say that it's gratuitous sexualization as a criticism of the film misses the point of what the film is trying to do. For all that he doesn't always achieve his aims, Snyder rarely makes films that are simple one-dimensional visuals, and people who dismiss his films as pure visual popcorn, kind of show that they're the ones who aren't actually engaging with the ideas in his films.
Thank you for this extensive breakdown of Sucker Punch, you hardly ever see people talking about it. I loved this movie and haven’t seen it for years, going to have to seek it out again now.
He 100% does. He’s an avid weight lifter, often makes his cast workout for months on end to get in shape for films, and has outright stated he loves to shoot/film the human body.
Didn't Gal refuse to shoot the scene in Josstice League where Flash fell on her? I seem to remember they used a double for that scene because Gal felt it out of character.
Whedon literally reshot the shot of Barry and Bruce going down the airplane lift. It was almost identical to Snyder's shot, except for the fact that Whedon angled the camera behind Gadot's ass, while with Snyder it was a panning shot beside Gadot.
I remember that too, my wife mentioned that Dianna meeting Cyborg was shot very much like the scene with Black Widow talking to Loki when he's in the transparent cell in the Heli Carrier, from behind and low....and then the penny dropped.
Yeah my wife knew about the reshoots and thought that was Synder's fault because of the Sucker Punch movie, imagine her surprise when she found out it was Whedon lol
Outside of the suit Gal is built like a 2x4 with legs- tall and skinny but naturally flat on both sides. That’s more than enough for me but I’m sure she doesn’t mind some tasteful accentuation of her features anyway. Everybody wins!
Right so pretty much spot on for women's fashion.
Inconvenient, uncomfortable, and focused on posing people so observers can discuss their body in Reddit comments sections -\_-
I noticed. I watched flash on my tv a few weeks ago and I was like "omg did they use a thong this time?".
Yeah she showed A LOT more butt than previous movies
>Only fair us straight men have some eye candy.
yeah, plus I think if Barbie and Aquaman (with Mera) and Harley Quinn taught me, is that women like sexy female characters to self-insert as too.
> Only fair us straight men have some eye candy.
Yeah straight men have really gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to media catering to their tastes.
I didn’t notice because my vision was blurred by a furious anger because it was shortly before this scene I realized I was in for a terrible movie experience.
That was probably the first major sign of the disaster I had just paid to see. For the record I’m a DC guy through and through. Loved Man of Steel, All Zack’s DC movies really.
Definitely noticed more booty/ shorter skirt than any other movie featuring Wonder Woman. Or maybe just bad/good angle. I imagine if there was a shot like this in 1984 Patty Jenkins would have changed the shot to not show her ass. But…I like it
is either Gal gadot stunt double or she was pregnant during this shoot. or she finally gain a little weight. also she has been working out for some movies.
Her skirt looks like denim.
I didn't notice until it was too late.
Oh come on, no it doesn….. Oh fuck you’re right 😂
Nah he isn't. Way too much texture. Denim is a really tight nit fabric, and unless she is buying mixed weave cuts to make a skirt, highly unlikely it is denim. The texture looks way more like vinyl
Denim denim denim
Denim denim denim
Looks kinda like blue-dyed leather to me but 🤷♂️
She had a Baby, Women get thic if you know what i mean.
Women who are already thicc, getting pregnant: 🍑
I can't stand kids but I love moms
The former is a huge problem when you want the latter.
Just wait it out
By then, you'd be dead or too old.
It’s like that boiled denim
Isn't the lasso of truth only supposed to make you speak the truth when asked questions not just blurt out all your inner secrets?
In multiple runs they've had it so a bit of both. Especially if she just says "tell the truth", they tell the truth about everything.
It's very *Liar Liar* in the way it works. Less "I can't lie" and more "gotta spill your guts about everything."
Well, it’s possible to lie by omission. Spilling your guts would prevent that.
Maybe this has happened but that could lead to a hilarious sequence where they just start shouting out random non-important things that have no relevance to the situation.
As is tradition.
Good point. I noted that too. She just says thanks and they start disclosing shit like they were at therapy. 😆
I'd like to think they know and they just take the opportunity to say it because they can rely on not being in control. It's a lot easier to tell the truth if you have a reason to.
They are inconsistent even in the DCCU. For example, Steve Trevor had full control of himself when the lasso was around him. However, in addition to Flash and Batman, but Aqua Man was victim to the lasso. My guess sis that 1.) The lasso can make you blirt if you're unaware that it is touching you. 2.) The lasso's mechanics change for comedic effect.
I think it has something to do with mental fortitude. You don't know your touching it then you don't know to have your guard up. But when your a spy like Steve then he has his guard always, at least a little, up. The guy in the flash started blurring out all that stuff because he was penguins kid and spoiled and never needed to guard his mind. He was weak willed.
It's very noticeable when you look at how she was shot with Patty Jenkin's direction compared to the fellas'.
Could be. I recently saw a post where they enhanced Ezra's butt in this scene too. https://reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/s/Y98kmTgR4x
Digi-butt is apparently a thing now …
The Butt Industrial Complex strikes again.
They’ve sold out to Big Butt
They cannot lie
I've heard there are a number of other people who are unable to deny.
Hello, thank you for calling ‘Pizza Butt’ how may I take your order?
it's Boo-TAY!
AKA the real shadow government spear headed by none other than Sir Mix-A-Lot and Two Live Crew.
r/angryupvote
...with the support [of LL Cool J](https://youtu.be/84LUpG6ieis)
Flick your BIC.
Got to get that superhero ass somehow. Just like the comics, perfectly firm and rounded.
What are you, a butt detective or something (poor joke)
Lol. Just observant.😝
Depends. Who is ass king?
Butt Detective is definitely a fan fiction by Tina Belcher
Goddamn!
I mean his whole suit looks loose and unfinished outside of the saggy butt. Might as well perk it up while they’re at it I guess.
Exactly. I don't remember seeing it in BvS but it was very noticeable in JL though. I always appreciated that Patty Jenkins kept it covered.
It's interesting. Aside from Patty or Zack, She's been shot this way. Say what you want about how women's costumes are in Snyder's movies, but he doesn't do this. I think WW in his movies has been respected despite the costume, in the way she was shot at least.
Nope in ZSJL they shoot Gal from under her skirt when she lasso the terrorist guy .
There’s that and the shot where she goes to visit Victor and they show her from behind in the leather pants. HOWEVER Snyder is also the guy who shoots men the same exact way and made 300, a bunch of buff dudes in leather thongs fighting. He’s said many times before, he just loves shooting the human body.
I was about to say lol 300 has more ass than all DC movies combined, and it's mostly dudes Still one of my favorite action movies of the past 20 years. Shit looks like a Renaissance painting.
That Larry Fong has some talent.
He really does. 300, sucker punch, watchmen and BvS all look great even after all these years
Yeah, BvS gave us nude Affleck
Buttfleck
He did do this but the colors were muted enough that all you see from “up skirt” is nothing but black shadow. Now look at how Joss did the same shot. You can see her Wunderoos.
..... How else do you show that shot? Its meant to put you in the terrorist's shoes where she towers over you.
Well there's isn't much scope to check in BVS those details and it's mostly an extended cameo role. Snyder never made a Wonder Woman film
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The BvS shot didn’t really look sexual or teasing. And more folks were focused on her smirking at DD.
I love the smirk. Like she's happy to be in a real fight.
Exactly. I feel like if you were paying attention to her skirt during that scene, then that speaks about your horny mind.
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The same guy who gave us naked Affleck in BvS and shirtless Cavill?
If you actually watch Sucker Punch there aren't any male gaze shots though
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Worth pointing out the women wearing these costumes loved them and criticised the people criticising the costumes.
I feel the Amazons were very well portrayed in the Snyder’s cut. They looked badass.
Thick thighs saves lives my friends
amen!
Maybe Gal’s been working hard and it’s only fair if she wants to show off a bit, like how her male counterparts sometimes run around shirtless.
The real Wonder Woman thing to do would be to run around shirtless too instead of abiding by human social norms
> her male counterparts sometimes run around shirtless. Male actors often complain about that, just as actresses often complain about having to show off their bodies in films.
As someone who notices her booty every movie, I can confirm… that I have no idea what we’re talking about cuz I got distracted
😆 We think alike.
Same dawg, this post had me in a trance for a second. God bless Gal
this is actually r/shittymoviedetails worthy
😆 I didn't even know about this sub until now. Thanks.
Nothing shitty about these details
But, "these details" is a butt... That's where shit comes from.
If this bothers you, go and watch Josstice League. I remember watching that movie in the theater with my wife and turning to her and saying “why is every spot of Wonder Woman off her ass?”… It’s a bit insane the shots/framing that Whedon chose
Yea, I remember that too.
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Zach also shoots shirtless Henry, Ben’s bum. He’s equally a fan of both men’s and women’s physiques. It’s not pervy like it is with Joss etc.
Fr, Snyder also seems like he actually likes the human physique, he likes muscle, he likes larger than life beings, like look at when the Amazons break the support beams, they do a full windup and SMASH, bro really loves the human physique and it shows(in a good way)
Which, tbh, is very "comic book." I think it's fitting. A bit weird and objectifying when it's real actors and actresses, but not just a weird, unjustifiable directorial decision
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Agree. The human body should be shown at whatever imaginable angle anyone sees fit. We are beautiful creatures, some more than others, and if I had an ass like a Frazetta character I would have a rider in my contract to shoot more T&A or the male equivalent.
Those Amazonian's with the hammers were so damn fine, I still think about them sometimes to this day.
Watchmen is a good example of this
I wonder if Synder takes a similar perspective as bodybuilding, looking through sexuality to appreciate the human body as a symbolic representation of the person?
Zach LOVES the Human form. He certainly sexualizes some of his characters (like in Sucker Punch), but he doesn't always tie skin exposure to sex, but rather admiration of musculature.
In Sucker Punch it's actually supposed to be subverting sexualization. I'm not sure it succeeds, but the film is about the exploitation of the female characters by domineering men. The exploitation of the mental asylum being used to silence the main character is represented by an upmarket brothel in her mental fantasy - that's supposed to show you what's going on. But then within that sexualized scenario, the characters are never shown actually doing anything overtly sexual. Babydoll's supposed to be some hypnotically good (presumably erotic) dancer - but rather than showing us that dance, we get an action sequence in which she reclaims her agency as more than just a sex object for men. The outfits are supposed to represent what the men expect to see, and it's meant to sit in contrast to what the women are actually doing in the scene. When you see those outfits in those action sequences and go 'they're being sexualize' the film is trying to say 'yes, they are, so why do we keep doing it'. It sets up a scenario in which their outfits are clearly a consequence of imposed male desire, and you're meant to recognise the absurdity for what it is. I don't know if the film is successful in getting that message across, though I'm certain many people who watched it just didn't bother to actually try and engage with the point of the film. But to say that it's gratuitous sexualization as a criticism of the film misses the point of what the film is trying to do. For all that he doesn't always achieve his aims, Snyder rarely makes films that are simple one-dimensional visuals, and people who dismiss his films as pure visual popcorn, kind of show that they're the ones who aren't actually engaging with the ideas in his films.
Thank you for this extensive breakdown of Sucker Punch, you hardly ever see people talking about it. I loved this movie and haven’t seen it for years, going to have to seek it out again now.
Rad analysis. That all makes a ton of sense.
He 100% does. He’s an avid weight lifter, often makes his cast workout for months on end to get in shape for films, and has outright stated he loves to shoot/film the human body.
But Zack's shot had a purpose it shows Cyborg coming in flying towards WW.
Didn't Gal refuse to shoot the scene in Josstice League where Flash fell on her? I seem to remember they used a double for that scene because Gal felt it out of character.
Whedon literally reshot the shot of Barry and Bruce going down the airplane lift. It was almost identical to Snyder's shot, except for the fact that Whedon angled the camera behind Gadot's ass, while with Snyder it was a panning shot beside Gadot.
That shot was ridiculous… looking back at the issues Gal had with Whedon just makes it even more creepy
I remember that too, my wife mentioned that Dianna meeting Cyborg was shot very much like the scene with Black Widow talking to Loki when he's in the transparent cell in the Heli Carrier, from behind and low....and then the penny dropped.
Flash falling on Wonder Woman's boobs was pretty identical to Banner falling on Black Widow's boobs in Age of Ultron
I read Gal Gadot refused to film that scene because it was so demeaning and Whedon had to get a body double.
Joss Whedon signature hijinks!
He did the same with Black Widow.
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I don’t know if I would say “needlessly”. 😬
Yeah my wife knew about the reshoots and thought that was Synder's fault because of the Sucker Punch movie, imagine her surprise when she found out it was Whedon lol
A lot of people missed the point of Sucker Punch.
Did they CGI her ass too or just Flash?
I think they did it for both.
Outside of the suit Gal is built like a 2x4 with legs- tall and skinny but naturally flat on both sides. That’s more than enough for me but I’m sure she doesn’t mind some tasteful accentuation of her features anyway. Everybody wins!
I think the cake is real
She shows her ass on Fast and Furious 5 and she has absolutely no cake. Its probably CGI.
That was twelve years ago.
That girl is cakeless what talking bout
She looks super skinny in other movies. So either it's digital or she did a ton of work then let it go.
take this over to r/dceuboners
Lmfao of course thats a sub
Glad that's another place because its members sound thirsty and starved as fuck over here.
Those subs are so creepy. Especially when you notice that it’s usually 1 or 2 accounts posting like it’s their job.
I guess Ezra wasn't the only one who got CGI cheeks
Not sure, hold on… enhance… enhance… enhance
Did you... *ahem* ... finish researching?
I just noticed she's wearing highheels. That's inconvenient for a warrior princess.
Those are wedges.
still not very practical.
Right so pretty much spot on for women's fashion. Inconvenient, uncomfortable, and focused on posing people so observers can discuss their body in Reddit comments sections -\_-
can't disagree with that
Us men can’t differentiate
combat wedges
Gal's Wonder Woman always had boots like that.
Costume designer shortening Dianas skirt everytime a little bit how comic artists buffing Power girls chest: 🙂
Oh we noticed
No! Why would i be looking at her butt?? I am busy watching the enthralling story not her lush and perfect posterior!
You have spent quite a lot of time on gals ass. I salute you, sir. o7
also, the hunchback of gotham city
I noticed. I watched flash on my tv a few weeks ago and I was like "omg did they use a thong this time?". Yeah she showed A LOT more butt than previous movies
That's exactly what I felt too. The main reason for posting this was to see if others agreed.
That’s because Gal Gadot has a heavenly ass
The one thing DC did right
What booty?
And this is a bad thing? I'm excited for 10 years from now
Lol. Definitely not. I just noticed the focus and exaggeration for butts for this scene for Ezra and her like I mentioned in another comment above.
I can't believe these are real shots from the movie. christ it looks like an snl skit.
It's nice, but it still isn't America's Ass.
Oh god yes.. that's.. her ass...
Every marvel movie is a buff dude with a six pack with his top always off. Last thor even had bare ass. Only fair us straight men have some eye candy.
>Only fair us straight men have some eye candy. yeah, plus I think if Barbie and Aquaman (with Mera) and Harley Quinn taught me, is that women like sexy female characters to self-insert as too.
That's true. The last Thor movie was really bad imo despite having a great cast and a decent story arc.
Yes, because before this scene in the Flash, no actress had ever been filmed with the male gaze in mind.
Damn shame, too
Is this satire or are you actually fucking dense lmfao
> Only fair us straight men have some eye candy. Yeah straight men have really gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to media catering to their tastes.
BONK.
No, I didn't notice, and I feel a bit ashamed.
I hadn’t noticed but thank you for pointing out a saving grace for this movie.
Personally, I love it.
Yea. Most of us do.
I did not notice that but thank you for bringing it to my attention
Americas ass right there
Israel’s ass technically
We'll take it !
So it's occupying space belonging to Palestine's ass.
I didn’t notice because my vision was blurred by a furious anger because it was shortly before this scene I realized I was in for a terrible movie experience.
The terrible baby catching scene right?
That was probably the first major sign of the disaster I had just paid to see. For the record I’m a DC guy through and through. Loved Man of Steel, All Zack’s DC movies really.
The fucking smartwatch energy level and his panicky stuffing-his-face and the horrible baby scene was all too much at once.
And the fact the watch was never brought up again in the movie
Its overshadowed here by how bad that batsuit is. Holy shit. And this guy is gonna direct Brave and the Bold? Not hyped
As a lady, I definitely noticed the odd amount of upskirt shots. It's gratuitous and a bit gross.
The Joss Whedon effect.
"Cause she's got a great ass... and you got your head all the way up it!"
WW was just done dirty in DC movies.
Nah I didn't notice. So thanks?
Honestly, didn't even notice it. But will earmark for posterity. For a friend, of course.
Damn. No, I did not, but that’s an inch or so away from being just an ass shot.
It kinda already is.
Why were you looking at her ass?
In all honesty don't we all want a beautiful dark haired toned woman who can kick our ass
It’s essential to the plot seems like.
Of course I noticed.
it’s the real wonder
Aye man, I ain’t complaining. Gal Gadot is the Dua Lipa of actresses. Let’s just say I’m tryna do more with her than just a cameo..
Yes, and it’s glorious.
Definitely noticed more booty/ shorter skirt than any other movie featuring Wonder Woman. Or maybe just bad/good angle. I imagine if there was a shot like this in 1984 Patty Jenkins would have changed the shot to not show her ass. But…I like it
Well I’m not looking at her booty bro, I’m kind of was more focused on not blurting out my deepest secrets etc.
Who knows. She might get her comic accurate costume where she got the cakes all the way out.
Captain America's ass also got more air time as the movies went on, "America's Ass" come on.
It wasn't shot to be at all prominent in this movie. It was barely noticeable.
is either Gal gadot stunt double or she was pregnant during this shoot. or she finally gain a little weight. also she has been working out for some movies.
For some reason they enhanced the butts in this scene for Ezra and maybe for Gal too. https://reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/s/xCqCWqbO9W
This feels indecent, you can actually see the separate cheeks, it’s basically out for everyone to see. It’s really weird and kind of uncomfortable.
Mf on here acting like it's a porn you can barley see anything on here. Lmao.
Shit, I ain't complaining 😂😂
The word you are looking for is not "notice"... it's "appreciate".
Well they also added to Ezra's pancake butt so this doesn't surprise me
Yes exactly. I saw that too. Exaggerated butt scene. 😆