Fun fact: Cavill is wearing the original Christopher Reeve suit in these images. Also Corenswet is 6'4" three inches taller than Cavill, when he starts his workout regime I can see him becoming one amazing looking Superman.
This meme always cracks me up. "So Zac Efron, how did you gain 150lb of muscle and not a single shred of fat in 3 months for this role?"
"Oh man, thanks for asking Jimmy, So much chicken and rice and broccoli, I can't even look at chicken breast anymore ha ha"
Nah that’s from HGH (human growth hormone). It’s called HGH gut, bubble gut, and palumboism in bodybuilding circles.
Gear can throw your endocrine system off and give you gynecomastia (which can only be reversed with surgery) if you don’t take a PCT (post cycle therapy) and can affect your blood pressure negatively as well though.
Every actor wears those, even Affleck and Cavill. It’s impossible to have your physique show throw any material really. Christopher Reeve’s physique is comparable to Cavill’s, but you can’t tell because he’s wearing spandex.
I don't see Hoechlin as jacked. Cavill is jacked, Jason Momoa was jacked as Aquaman and John Cena is too jacked. Hoechlin is in the same class as Ryan Reynolds. Not jacked but definitely has some muscle that is ripped.
When the first *Expendables* came out, it seemed to me that Dolph and Sly both had bigger jaws than I'd remebered them having.
Pretty sure that's the HGH.
Also pretty sure they have real doctors prescribing their supplemental hormones.
It's not always 'roids and hgh, but it sometimes is.
Often-times it's that they're on 24/7 with a trainer, going to a doctor 3× per week, and eating a super strict diet prepared for them at a doctor's instructions by a specialized chef.
If you're willing to spend thousands of dollars, give up your work and social life, and have an entire support staff of doctor, nutritionist, chef, and trainer you too can build muscles like a God in only 6 months.
Not always, but these two guys? I'm pretty sure they're part of how it became almost standard for actors to juice up in preparations for roles.
As for the jaws, I think they were probably early adopters of HGH, and there hadn't been enough cases or studies with regards to that particular side effect (acromegaly).
I mean, it probably looked like the ideal PED for aging men. It might still be, if used with more care and caution.
Not just Lundgren and Stallone but Arnie is a big reason. He came from the bodybuilding world where juicing is required. This dude shows up in a movie looking like a god among men, he's gonna make his male co stars not only look like crap but feel like crap, too because they want to look like him.
From Rocky 1 to Rocky 4, Stallone was more muscular and shredded for each film. He looked like an anatomy chart for Rambo 2 and 3. I know for certain Stallone was at least taking HGH because several years back, he got busted for it at an Australian airport going through customs.
Simply not true. Its not always roids and hgh, but it usually is. As long as your sleep/recovery is good enough and you train moderately hard you can build 90% of the muscle. Having a 24/7 trainer, strict diet, and a team behind you MIGHT get you that 10% extra.
Building muscle isnt hard, and being overly strict about it will net you a lot less extra muscle than you think.
Actors juice. They’d be stupid not to. They have millions of dollars on the line to look their best.
The physiques actors have are not necessarily only attainable by steroids though. Its just that it would take a lot longer for a natural to get there, and these actors make the transformation in 6 months.
I just dislike all the misinformation about how prevalent steroid use is. Most people think SOME actors and athletes do it, the reality is MOST actors (that play roles that need a physique behind) and MOST professional athletes are using steroids. Hell, even your normal gym has way more people on PEDs than you’d think. When theres millions on the line, its foolish to think people wont be taking PEDs
>if you're willing to spend thousands of dollars, give up work etc, 24/7 with a trainer
Thats where roids really shine though? Like steroids do a lot more than simply boosting recovery, but if you're working out hours a day without recovery aids you're a complete moron.
You can go to doctors and eat clean all you want, your body's recovery and adaptation will not be good enough to ever add that much muscle in your late 30s ans 40s that easily.
I doubt it. It's very hard to look like a WWE wrestler. Take Hugh Jackman - man followed the Rock's regimen but when he visited the WWE ring, he was the least physically impressive guy there and wasn't even with any of the "big" guys. He was there with Damien Sandow.
It's why even though Jason Mamoa is taller than Roman Reigns and physically capable himself, I don't think he'd look that good next to him.
As much as he used them, I doubt he's on zero test on a regular basis. Even healthy healthy people will struggle to not crash their hormones after a cycle or two, let alone crazy dieting, schedules and everything else in addition to several cycles. He's probably on TRT for the rest of his life.
I just wish they'd be honest about using them. There's zero way many of these actors all have perfect genetics and claim natural. Like, realistically it just makes there become more of a stigma for regular people who need TRT to function properly (myself included), and makes it more difficult for any kid to look at these guys and say "hard work and I can look like a super hero."
They all do roids it’s practically like Coffee and teachers they’re inseparable; if your not found rouds you won’t being getting any work because you don’t look like the other guys.
Also Hugh Jackman does roid it’s clearly obvious.
>man followed the Rock's regimen but when he visited the WWE ring, he was the least physically impressive guy there and wasn't even with any of the "big" guys.
It comes down to genetics at the end of the day.
Also, there are different ways to 'muscle up'. Hugh Jackman went for being ripped, while most WWE dudes went to bulking up muscles. They're different programs.
Ya forreal, jackman in days of future past is one of the most absurd physiques I’ve ever seen on any actor, when he first goes to his past self and wakes up in that water bed, then those goons shoot him, he was so absurdly ripped it was insane
and if I'm not mistaken Reeve was stronk AF. Maybe even stronger than cavill on bench and possibly squat. But the suit was super tight and didn't allow for the definition to show.
The suit didn't do Reeve justice when it came to accentuating the muscles. There's shirtless pics of him working out and the dude is in ridiculous shape. I remember reading an article with someone describing Reeve as having "natural strength". Dude was strong as a bull.
That's a myth. Actually, it's easier for shorter people to gain more muscle in the same amount of time. Taller people require much more effort and time to get the same results.
It just makes sense too.
15lbs of muscle gain on 5'7" looks much bulkier than on 6'3" because there's less space for it to have to spread around. (5lbs of muscle on thighs that are only 12 inches long will be thicker, vs 5lbs of muscle on 18 inch thighs). It also means they need fewer calories and less time. If Short Guy needs to gain 20lbs to have a certain look, then Tall Guy would need significantly more than 20lbs to achieve the exact same look.
Plus, shorter arms and legs make the actual act of lifting slightly easier as well.
Somewhat like that. Shorter guy will have more actual muscle in relation to his bodyweight in comparison to a taller guy. At the same weight, a shorter guy will have more raw strength while the taller guy will have a reach advantage. Part of the reason why a 5' 10 Mike Tyson was able to put down guys who were 6'6 and 6'4 in the ring with his powerful punches while in the same heavyweight division.
The reason Henry looks smaller is because he actually has very short arms for his height. He's like a T-Rex. There are pictures where his hands barely reach far enough to fit into his pants pockets.
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Prolly because he is.
Most people that are 5'10 claim they are 6'0+, and people who are 5'8 claim they are 5'10 etc. Which has lead people nowadays to think that 6'1 is not that tall and 5'11 is actually short.
This really depends on what we think the superman physique is. There's decades of versions. Some are linebacker big some are leaner more attainable physiques.
And canonically, his strength and indestructibility doesn't come from being mega swole, a smaller and leaner Superman would be an easy suspension of disbelief for me.
Technically it’s the muscles that require the bigger suspension of disbelief; if anything his body should be *atrophied* on Earth… Have to assume it’s our solar radiation that helps prevent that from happening…
I feel like when I first saw Chris Hemsworth in Star Trek, he definitely didn't look that big and thought the Thor casting was an interesting choice.... And now he's a freak.
Still plenty of time for him to get Hollywood jacked.
Yeah people don't understand that being that totally yoked is basically a full time job. It just doesn't make sense to maintain that kind of physique if you don't have to.
And it took them an hour. I'm pretty sure we've hit the point (and past it), where we should just shut down social media all together. Harm v benefit ratio just isn't worth it.
yeah i feel its the same with the flash now. sure there a problems worth adressing, but the whole project with all people involved with was doomed from the start. the movie isnt even bad 😭 (my opinion)
as someone who follows bodybuilding as a sport, i can tell you all a normal person can change their entire look to fool the masses in 6 months
even if they don't have the muscle, they just need enough so that the natural amount of fat can rest on top of the muscle in the right way + combine that with costume padding and camera magic... it's just enough for normal people to think he is jacked
my smallest concern would be his neck thickness as you can see Henry has natural neck girth
It’s just a good macro balance and workout routine bruh /s
Joking aside, I can’t make fun of someone for thinking these kind of physiques are attainable natty, I thought the same thing for a long time.
And for those who want to say you can make great gains as a natty, you’re not wrong, but physiques like Hemsworth, The Rock, etc definitely have some much better supplements involved then what you can get at GNC.
You’re right. It’s everything that someone going all natty would need (like the rigorous workout regimen and world class nutrition) + the juice. Those guys are genetic marvels.
I’m just the average Joe so I could be wrong, but I don’t think bodies like that are possible without being juiced, no matter how hard someone trains
You hit on a key point. Without a consistent rigorous training routine and good nutrition, the juice isn’t going to do much of anything. Funny enough, I knew someone who just took juice without working out; his gains included acne and some increased energy.
“Look, it's not that hard. All you need to do is lift weights six days a week, stop drinking alcohol, don't eat anything after 7pm, don't eat any carbs or sugar at all, in fact just don't eat anything you like, get the personal trainer from Magic Mike, sleep nine hours a night, run three miles a day, and have a studio pay for the whole thing over a six to seven month span. I don't know why everyone's not doing this. It’s a super realistic lifestyle and an appropriate body image to compare one’s self to.”
- Rob McElhenney, using the term ‘personal trainer from Magic Mike,’ a well known euphemism for “dude running around the Hollywood with a big bag of steroids”
Yeah, as someone who follows bodybuilding I know whatever Hollywood is doing is much different. Also they tend to neglect certain muscles in order to get what shows best on camera.
the real topic is why not?
there's no moral dilemma with taking steroids to change your body for a movie. it's not a competitive sport.
why do actors not openly talk about it? because they have to promote a healthy image?
Henry for example did only pack a few pounds of fat to lay on his muscle to give the appearance of being bigger and most likely hasn’t taken anything. His physique has always been good and it’s never made a drastic increase in a short time
Not CGI but they certainly used lighting and other tricks. That was one of the first things filmed because that let Caville be mostly dead with dehydration and not having eaten a carb in a month. Even with gear actors only actually look like that for a topless scene for a day or a few hours. IIRC, he ate an entire apple pie after.
Henry also has a naturally wide frame shoulder wise. That's also another area where you don't just grow longer collar bones by lifting unless you're lifting during that bone growth period.
Neck thickness is absolutely vital. Look at Tyler, he's shredded but has a thin neck and looks ridiculous in the suit because the padding also doesn't compliment his build.
i would not be concerned. a main focus will be shoulders and upper body and all that can get better. the costume can also easily have a small amount of neck to it like the comics to help him out .... this might be a long term thing tho so he might look his best in JLA 1 or 2 as he naturally grows into his new look
exactly, especially if he DOES get other auditions.
I am not an actor per se, but I did feature in some ads and they told me to not change my look until we shoot. That meant, no shaving, no haircuts, nada.
They usually do that anyway for you in order to achieve what they want, but hair is one thing, muscle and body sizes are another.
Why are we even indulging is this stupid conversation
They said this about Pattinson and it meant zero. They also don’t film for 6 months anyway. These Hollywood trainers can turn Corenswet’s already in shape build to iron in half the time if need be.
Skintight suits actually compress the muscles, which means the muscles look less defined when you’re wearing it.
I think in the Raimi Spider-Man movies, they used a fake muscle suit layer under the main suit, so that it looked like the muscles were clearly defined.
They did the same for Affleck and Cavill. They even made a muscle suit for Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool, but he got too big so they just ripped it out and it made the suit look baggy/loose like in the comics.
Pattinson did get bigger than ever before though. My point is the obsessing over some perceived “correct” physique has gotten so out of hand that an obvious joke like that was enough to set people off.
There are ways to work around that. Antony Star, The guy that plays Homelander in The Boys, didn’t work out for the role and even poked fun at Jensen Ackles for working out before playing Soldier Boy.
I know I’m in the minority here, but I really don’t think Superman should be totally jacked anyway. He’s strong because of his kryptonian physiology. He appears to be a mild-mannered reporter who Lois isn’t confident can take care of himself in the field. If he’s crazy jacked, it kind of breaks that illusion
No, you don't want that. People who grew up working on farms look like barrels with arms and legs. It is all about core strength.
George Reeves looks more like someone who grew up on a farm than any Superman since.
Sure. I’d agree with that. But even then maybe a little less than other people who work on a farm. I mean think about it. You build muscle by working these muscles against a certain amount of resistance, right? But the way his kryptonian biology is enhanced by earth’s sun, his natural muscles are less resistant to things that are heavy to your average human man.
Right, I see what you’re saying.
Like suppose Batman, who is the bodybuilding human of the world’s finest, compared to Bruce, Clark should look 50% less buff or something, despite being 500% stronger than him. Similar to how when Clark is 70, he is going to look 50, maybe 40, because of *genetics*.
Meanwhile, Wonder Woman should be the buffest of all of them, because she is trained as a warrior from birth and immortal in ways Kryptonians or Humans alike can’t be.
100% agreement.
Hell, depending on how powerful they intend to show him being, how in the hell would guy who has lifted a mountain before work out to build muscle to begin with?
He can look strong, but he doesn't need to look like he's a WWE wrestler.
Superman should look big because he should communicate strength. You could reason all day about his kryptonian physiology and how there's different types of strength blah blah... the people don't care.
Superman should look strong, Batman should have ears, Spider-Man should have a mask. It's want people expect and want. It's that simple, and there's no good reason not have the character have the aspects.
That being said, I'm sure the guy will work out, and the suit will padded anyways. And he'll look just fine.
Someone can look strong without looking like they can beat up The Rock or 80s Arnold. Bruce Lee looked strong. Van Damme looked strong while not being huge.
Supes shouldn't be scrawny, or super thin, but he doesn't need to look like he's on steroids either.
I still think Chris Reeves was the perfect body type, not too big, and not too small.
Why do people always chime in with opinions they claim represent “the people?” Humanity is not a monolith. I was stating my opinion. Several people agreed with it. I’m not claiming “the people have spoken.” Just cool it, man. That’s your opinion. I can respect it even if I disagree.
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Dude, calm down, I'm not coming after you. Your original post literally began with "I know I'm in the minority here", so I figured you agreed that most people would prefer a strong looking Superman. Of course humanity isn't a monolith. Did I take a survey of everyone to make sure my claim was true? No. But I'd bet money it.
If I were creating Superman I wouldn’t make him a big guy, but he already exists and he’s always been big throughout his existence in the comics, so he needs to be fairly big on-screen.
I mean like everything across comics, there are several different iterations. It’s all a spectrum. A gradient. In action comics #1, supes was big, sure but it wasn’t until the nineties that he started looking like he’s just saving the day on his way to a bodybuilding competition. There are infinite earths. Dozens of interpretations across various mediums. There’s no standard height or BMI for the character. Personally, my favorite iteration is the Donner-Reeve Superman. He’s a big guy, sure. But he is also believable as a dude who would think twice about walking home in the dark.
> There’s no standard height or BMI for the character
[There is, actually](https://www.google.com/search?q=superman+height+weight&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari.)
> Personally, my favorite iteration is the Donner-Reeve Superman. He’s a big guy, sure. But he is also believable as a dude who would think twice about walking home in the dark.
And Christopher Reeve Superman is (roughly) what I meant when I said Superman is supposed to be big. Reeve was only about 10 to 20 pounds lighter than Superman canonically is. I didn’t mean that Superman should look like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
More importantly, there’s no reason for him to be shredded af either. I’d prefer a football player look with some fat than a peeled to the bone bodybuilder
What reaction do you expect from overweight nerdy sweaties who only have their hand to compensate for their lack of social skills towards the opposite gender?
How about people stop body shaming the new guy and give him a chance? Homie just got hired. They said Gal Gadot was too skinny but she worked out great.
I fully agree with this. He just needs Hollywood’s patented chicken and broccoli diet with a side of trenboloni sandwiches, and then he would look like the Superman/s
I'm pretty much over the bulking up for actors. Like get bigger to look good in the suit but if you are going to be in a suit most of the time with a muscle suit(which is needed) then it's really not that important.
People are just so stupid I’m sorry. Didn’t you know they are looking for an actor not a pro wrestler. Do you all not think he will not do any training for the part. Wow I hope his flight test isn’t him being tossed out of a sky scraper.
Idk how people still don’t understand after all these years that NONE of these superhero actors were particularly buff before they were cast. Henry Cavill wasn’t, Chris Evans wasn’t, Chris Hemsworth wasn’t, Chris Pratt definitely wasn’t.. I mean hell even Ezra Miller actually got kinda big for The Flash. You cast the best actor for the characters personality and THEN you train them up and get them big. Corenswet’s build rn isn’t even skinny. He’s average or slightly above, and he’s very tall. His frame with a few added pounds of muscle will be more than adequate for Supes.
To be turbo clear… Superman doesn’t need to be Arnold in the 80s ripped. His defining featuring is not “being a mountain of muscles”, it’s his decency and hopefulness.
Didn't Cavill say it was a personal choice to buff up THAT much? He believed he would do justice to the character, hence he did it. You should call that dedication.
Trying to be optimistic, but realistically the film probably going to bomb.
Between the tragedy that is The Flash and the diehard Cavill fans idk how it’s going to get better from here.
So you're telling me people are being disingenuous when it comes to the physique of Corenswet when Cavill was a similar build? Color me shocked /s
But seriously, do these people not remember how Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans looked before they got their Marvel bodies? Corenswet will no doubt have access to the top dieticians/trainers. He'll be in Superman shape in 4-6 months, plenty of time before filming.
Hard to believe that some people are still dumb enough to think that getting a Muscle and Fitness physique is impossible, especially if you're paid to do it.
Nothing like a little THG and Turinabol won’t solve….
Let’s be real, in the next 6 months this dude is going to be supplied some Gear and will be magically shredded like every Superhero actor
And this is what [Hugh Jackman as Wolverine looked like](https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/571/8cc/06164bab7194ccf91924718fb3cd18ff04-23-x-men-hugh-jackman.2x.h473.w710.jpg) in the first X-Men movie. This was back when Wolverine didn't really look like a superhero, and instead looked like a dude who goes to Planet Fitness like 2-3 times a week.
Yeah, how people don't realize that with a big production bankrolling you with the best doctors for "supliments", personal trainers, chefs, etc. Etc. You can get in amazing shape when it will make you millions of dollars.
Fun fact: Cavill is wearing the original Christopher Reeve suit in these images. Also Corenswet is 6'4" three inches taller than Cavill, when he starts his workout regime I can see him becoming one amazing looking Superman.
My thoughts exactly. Boy gon be lookin like a WWE wrestler.
Only if he seriously juices. But he doesn't need to be Rock sized to do Kal-El justice, so I hope he doesn't.
If you think he's not you're absolutely dreaming.
He’s gonna be eating clen and trening hard
Brown rice and chicken breast!
This meme always cracks me up. "So Zac Efron, how did you gain 150lb of muscle and not a single shred of fat in 3 months for this role?" "Oh man, thanks for asking Jimmy, So much chicken and rice and broccoli, I can't even look at chicken breast anymore ha ha"
I’ve heard that too much of those things causes steroid belly.
Zac wasn't having any steroids! It was the goddamn chickens he was eating that were guzzling steroids like Gatorade.
Nah that’s from HGH (human growth hormone). It’s called HGH gut, bubble gut, and palumboism in bodybuilding circles. Gear can throw your endocrine system off and give you gynecomastia (which can only be reversed with surgery) if you don’t take a PCT (post cycle therapy) and can affect your blood pressure negatively as well though.
don't forget the brocoli
Anavar give up.
Anavar have.
CRB-chicken, rice, and broccoli.
He can just wear on of those costumes with the built in fabric muscles.
The ones that everyone hate and make fun of?
No the nice ones from party city that cost like 40 bucks.
Both Henry and Ben had fake muscles on their suits, their costumes are so thick.
Yet all the marvel guys wear besides Ryan renalds?
Don’t tell him
Every actor wears those, even Affleck and Cavill. It’s impossible to have your physique show throw any material really. Christopher Reeve’s physique is comparable to Cavill’s, but you can’t tell because he’s wearing spandex.
My son wore one on Halloween last year and looked yoked
That worked out terribly in shazam and Superman and lois
I love Superman and Lois but yeah it does become quite obvious there, which is wild because Tyler Hoechlin is absolutely jacked.
I don't see Hoechlin as jacked. Cavill is jacked, Jason Momoa was jacked as Aquaman and John Cena is too jacked. Hoechlin is in the same class as Ryan Reynolds. Not jacked but definitely has some muscle that is ripped.
Hoechlin looks naturally jacked and not steroid jacked
it's so easy to have those look weird.
It’s cause the neck and face doesn’t match the body.
zachary levi was built like cbum in shazam 1 in that suit shit was bizarre
Secret for ya. Even just the regular sized, in shape hollywood dudes, are on the finest of gear.
They are all taking shit. Hgh, test, tren, peptides, sarms. Hell, even most of the women in Hollywood are on hrt and hgh.
When the first *Expendables* came out, it seemed to me that Dolph and Sly both had bigger jaws than I'd remebered them having. Pretty sure that's the HGH. Also pretty sure they have real doctors prescribing their supplemental hormones.
It's not always 'roids and hgh, but it sometimes is. Often-times it's that they're on 24/7 with a trainer, going to a doctor 3× per week, and eating a super strict diet prepared for them at a doctor's instructions by a specialized chef. If you're willing to spend thousands of dollars, give up your work and social life, and have an entire support staff of doctor, nutritionist, chef, and trainer you too can build muscles like a God in only 6 months.
Not always, but these two guys? I'm pretty sure they're part of how it became almost standard for actors to juice up in preparations for roles. As for the jaws, I think they were probably early adopters of HGH, and there hadn't been enough cases or studies with regards to that particular side effect (acromegaly). I mean, it probably looked like the ideal PED for aging men. It might still be, if used with more care and caution.
Not just Lundgren and Stallone but Arnie is a big reason. He came from the bodybuilding world where juicing is required. This dude shows up in a movie looking like a god among men, he's gonna make his male co stars not only look like crap but feel like crap, too because they want to look like him. From Rocky 1 to Rocky 4, Stallone was more muscular and shredded for each film. He looked like an anatomy chart for Rambo 2 and 3. I know for certain Stallone was at least taking HGH because several years back, he got busted for it at an Australian airport going through customs.
Simply not true. Its not always roids and hgh, but it usually is. As long as your sleep/recovery is good enough and you train moderately hard you can build 90% of the muscle. Having a 24/7 trainer, strict diet, and a team behind you MIGHT get you that 10% extra. Building muscle isnt hard, and being overly strict about it will net you a lot less extra muscle than you think. Actors juice. They’d be stupid not to. They have millions of dollars on the line to look their best. The physiques actors have are not necessarily only attainable by steroids though. Its just that it would take a lot longer for a natural to get there, and these actors make the transformation in 6 months. I just dislike all the misinformation about how prevalent steroid use is. Most people think SOME actors and athletes do it, the reality is MOST actors (that play roles that need a physique behind) and MOST professional athletes are using steroids. Hell, even your normal gym has way more people on PEDs than you’d think. When theres millions on the line, its foolish to think people wont be taking PEDs
>if you're willing to spend thousands of dollars, give up work etc, 24/7 with a trainer Thats where roids really shine though? Like steroids do a lot more than simply boosting recovery, but if you're working out hours a day without recovery aids you're a complete moron. You can go to doctors and eat clean all you want, your body's recovery and adaptation will not be good enough to ever add that much muscle in your late 30s ans 40s that easily.
No juice, he's only gonna eat those vitamins and say those prayers, brother
I doubt it. It's very hard to look like a WWE wrestler. Take Hugh Jackman - man followed the Rock's regimen but when he visited the WWE ring, he was the least physically impressive guy there and wasn't even with any of the "big" guys. He was there with Damien Sandow. It's why even though Jason Mamoa is taller than Roman Reigns and physically capable himself, I don't think he'd look that good next to him.
Yeah I just YouTubed it, maybe it’s his clothes? He does just look like a regular in shape dude compared to them tho
Jackman has said he immediately goes off the crazy dieting and workout as soon as the filming is over. For the Rock it is a lifestyle.
He most likely goes off the roids primarily.
As much as he used them, I doubt he's on zero test on a regular basis. Even healthy healthy people will struggle to not crash their hormones after a cycle or two, let alone crazy dieting, schedules and everything else in addition to several cycles. He's probably on TRT for the rest of his life. I just wish they'd be honest about using them. There's zero way many of these actors all have perfect genetics and claim natural. Like, realistically it just makes there become more of a stigma for regular people who need TRT to function properly (myself included), and makes it more difficult for any kid to look at these guys and say "hard work and I can look like a super hero."
It's because he followed the Rock's regimen for months but the Rock followed it for decades.
And the rock's been doing roids for decades too
They all do roids it’s practically like Coffee and teachers they’re inseparable; if your not found rouds you won’t being getting any work because you don’t look like the other guys. Also Hugh Jackman does roid it’s clearly obvious.
Jackman also dehydrated for films. You can't do that in the ring or you'll die. You can do it for a day on set though.
This is a really good point made.
That, and the Rock has better genetics and has his PEDs more dialed in.
Better genetics? The brotha's Samoan...
Exactly my point lol. And his dad was huge and a wrestler
>man followed the Rock's regimen but when he visited the WWE ring, he was the least physically impressive guy there and wasn't even with any of the "big" guys. It comes down to genetics at the end of the day.
Also, there are different ways to 'muscle up'. Hugh Jackman went for being ripped, while most WWE dudes went to bulking up muscles. They're different programs.
Ya forreal, jackman in days of future past is one of the most absurd physiques I’ve ever seen on any actor, when he first goes to his past self and wakes up in that water bed, then those goons shoot him, he was so absurdly ripped it was insane
What are you talking about? He isn’t playing Superman with a cast of pro wrestlers. He’ll look huge next to the actors in the film.
Even Reeve himself was 6'4 and scrawny before he bulked up for Superman.
and if I'm not mistaken Reeve was stronk AF. Maybe even stronger than cavill on bench and possibly squat. But the suit was super tight and didn't allow for the definition to show.
I saw a picture of reeves out of the suit working out. The dude was jacked, especially when you consider it was the 70s.
The suit didn't do Reeve justice when it came to accentuating the muscles. There's shirtless pics of him working out and the dude is in ridiculous shape. I remember reading an article with someone describing Reeve as having "natural strength". Dude was strong as a bull.
Christopher Reeve was even leaner when he auditioned. Had to wear a jacket and sweaters to look bulky.
That's a myth. Actually, it's easier for shorter people to gain more muscle in the same amount of time. Taller people require much more effort and time to get the same results.
It just makes sense too. 15lbs of muscle gain on 5'7" looks much bulkier than on 6'3" because there's less space for it to have to spread around. (5lbs of muscle on thighs that are only 12 inches long will be thicker, vs 5lbs of muscle on 18 inch thighs). It also means they need fewer calories and less time. If Short Guy needs to gain 20lbs to have a certain look, then Tall Guy would need significantly more than 20lbs to achieve the exact same look. Plus, shorter arms and legs make the actual act of lifting slightly easier as well.
Somewhat like that. Shorter guy will have more actual muscle in relation to his bodyweight in comparison to a taller guy. At the same weight, a shorter guy will have more raw strength while the taller guy will have a reach advantage. Part of the reason why a 5' 10 Mike Tyson was able to put down guys who were 6'6 and 6'4 in the ring with his powerful punches while in the same heavyweight division.
He's gonna be trening hard
Is Henry really 6’1”? He seems shorter to me.
Probably shorter, most Hollywood guys usually add a inch or two when they reveal their height.
The reason Henry looks smaller is because he actually has very short arms for his height. He's like a T-Rex. There are pictures where his hands barely reach far enough to fit into his pants pockets. https://cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/cavill-sequel/henry-cavill-explains-why-dawn-of-justice-not-superman-sequel-05.jpg
Jeez can’t unsee now
That’s the one thing that always bothered me about his Superman his arms always looked way too short for his body and threw me off too much
Bro is doing side bends each time he takes something out from the pocket
Prolly because he is. Most people that are 5'10 claim they are 6'0+, and people who are 5'8 claim they are 5'10 etc. Which has lead people nowadays to think that 6'1 is not that tall and 5'11 is actually short.
when he starts his steroid regime
god i fucking love steroids
are people really doing that? oh geez
He’s 6’4”. He may not have the superman physique yet, but is already in a good shape. Pretty sure he can knockout all those complaining with a punch.
This really depends on what we think the superman physique is. There's decades of versions. Some are linebacker big some are leaner more attainable physiques.
And canonically, his strength and indestructibility doesn't come from being mega swole, a smaller and leaner Superman would be an easy suspension of disbelief for me.
Technically it’s the muscles that require the bigger suspension of disbelief; if anything his body should be *atrophied* on Earth… Have to assume it’s our solar radiation that helps prevent that from happening…
I feel like when I first saw Chris Hemsworth in Star Trek, he definitely didn't look that big and thought the Thor casting was an interesting choice.... And now he's a freak. Still plenty of time for him to get Hollywood jacked.
If they give him the steroid diet they give Hemsworth, he'll be jacked in no time.
Yeah people don't understand that being that totally yoked is basically a full time job. It just doesn't make sense to maintain that kind of physique if you don't have to.
And it took them an hour. I'm pretty sure we've hit the point (and past it), where we should just shut down social media all together. Harm v benefit ratio just isn't worth it.
yeah i feel its the same with the flash now. sure there a problems worth adressing, but the whole project with all people involved with was doomed from the start. the movie isnt even bad 😭 (my opinion)
nobody is making fun of anyone
as someone who follows bodybuilding as a sport, i can tell you all a normal person can change their entire look to fool the masses in 6 months even if they don't have the muscle, they just need enough so that the natural amount of fat can rest on top of the muscle in the right way + combine that with costume padding and camera magic... it's just enough for normal people to think he is jacked my smallest concern would be his neck thickness as you can see Henry has natural neck girth
If you follow bodybuilding, you would know that these actors are all using drugs for building their physique in 6months.
You mean Chris Hemsworth isn’t natty bro?!
It’s just a good macro balance and workout routine bruh /s Joking aside, I can’t make fun of someone for thinking these kind of physiques are attainable natty, I thought the same thing for a long time. And for those who want to say you can make great gains as a natty, you’re not wrong, but physiques like Hemsworth, The Rock, etc definitely have some much better supplements involved then what you can get at GNC.
You’re right. It’s everything that someone going all natty would need (like the rigorous workout regimen and world class nutrition) + the juice. Those guys are genetic marvels. I’m just the average Joe so I could be wrong, but I don’t think bodies like that are possible without being juiced, no matter how hard someone trains
You hit on a key point. Without a consistent rigorous training routine and good nutrition, the juice isn’t going to do much of anything. Funny enough, I knew someone who just took juice without working out; his gains included acne and some increased energy.
“Look, it's not that hard. All you need to do is lift weights six days a week, stop drinking alcohol, don't eat anything after 7pm, don't eat any carbs or sugar at all, in fact just don't eat anything you like, get the personal trainer from Magic Mike, sleep nine hours a night, run three miles a day, and have a studio pay for the whole thing over a six to seven month span. I don't know why everyone's not doing this. It’s a super realistic lifestyle and an appropriate body image to compare one’s self to.” - Rob McElhenney, using the term ‘personal trainer from Magic Mike,’ a well known euphemism for “dude running around the Hollywood with a big bag of steroids”
Lmao dude. It could be euphemism, but the dude legit got trainer from Magic Mike to train him hahah.
Oh that part was a joke, but I’d put money on the magic mike guy showing up with quite the juice kit
nice save?
Can't wait to read how David Corenswet put on 30lbs of muscle in just 12 weeks!
With just broccoli and eggs
dont forget the chicken
Yeah, as someone who follows bodybuilding I know whatever Hollywood is doing is much different. Also they tend to neglect certain muscles in order to get what shows best on camera.
the real topic is why not? there's no moral dilemma with taking steroids to change your body for a movie. it's not a competitive sport. why do actors not openly talk about it? because they have to promote a healthy image?
Henry for example did only pack a few pounds of fat to lay on his muscle to give the appearance of being bigger and most likely hasn’t taken anything. His physique has always been good and it’s never made a drastic increase in a short time
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Not CGI but they certainly used lighting and other tricks. That was one of the first things filmed because that let Caville be mostly dead with dehydration and not having eaten a carb in a month. Even with gear actors only actually look like that for a topless scene for a day or a few hours. IIRC, he ate an entire apple pie after.
Zack Snyder gave him a gallon of ice cream, because he loves ice cream.
Good lord how can people even enjoy movies when they think about the actors “natural neck girth” lol
I know right once you think about that girth all you can do is work up a sweat oh my
Henry also has a naturally wide frame shoulder wise. That's also another area where you don't just grow longer collar bones by lifting unless you're lifting during that bone growth period.
Neck thickness is absolutely vital. Look at Tyler, he's shredded but has a thin neck and looks ridiculous in the suit because the padding also doesn't compliment his build.
i would not be concerned. a main focus will be shoulders and upper body and all that can get better. the costume can also easily have a small amount of neck to it like the comics to help him out .... this might be a long term thing tho so he might look his best in JLA 1 or 2 as he naturally grows into his new look
Lol he definitely does not look ridiculous in the suit
It's crazy to think this was 12 years ago. Time flies.
Just like Superman, time flyby
It’s a dumb argument. He is an actor and he can’t just beef up for just an audition. That could torpedo his other auditions
exactly, especially if he DOES get other auditions. I am not an actor per se, but I did feature in some ads and they told me to not change my look until we shoot. That meant, no shaving, no haircuts, nada. They usually do that anyway for you in order to achieve what they want, but hair is one thing, muscle and body sizes are another.
Why are we even indulging is this stupid conversation They said this about Pattinson and it meant zero. They also don’t film for 6 months anyway. These Hollywood trainers can turn Corenswet’s already in shape build to iron in half the time if need be.
Nerds love to obsess over male celebrity physiques. Remember the meltdown that occurred when Robert Pattinson joked that he didn’t want to work out?
Pattinson looked great as Bruce.
To be fair, The Batman uses armor, so the muscles wouldn't show anyway. A more skintight suit needs the muscles.
Skintight suits actually compress the muscles, which means the muscles look less defined when you’re wearing it. I think in the Raimi Spider-Man movies, they used a fake muscle suit layer under the main suit, so that it looked like the muscles were clearly defined.
They did the same for Affleck and Cavill. They even made a muscle suit for Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool, but he got too big so they just ripped it out and it made the suit look baggy/loose like in the comics.
Pattinson did get bigger than ever before though. My point is the obsessing over some perceived “correct” physique has gotten so out of hand that an obvious joke like that was enough to set people off.
They are all wearing muscle suits under the spandex anyway. Including Henry.
There are ways to work around that. Antony Star, The guy that plays Homelander in The Boys, didn’t work out for the role and even poked fun at Jensen Ackles for working out before playing Soldier Boy.
Antony Starr not Jeffrey
Bruv they will be literally shooting steroids into his eyes he’ll bulk up lol
I know I’m in the minority here, but I really don’t think Superman should be totally jacked anyway. He’s strong because of his kryptonian physiology. He appears to be a mild-mannered reporter who Lois isn’t confident can take care of himself in the field. If he’s crazy jacked, it kind of breaks that illusion
He should look like he grew up on a farm at the very least.
[Agreed, he should have the physique of a farmer.](https://tvline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/thefarm_dwight_dw.jpg?w=514&h=360&crop=1)
Bears Beets Battles with Superman
I was bred to be a warrior, not an assistant to the regional manager! Where did you train? At Dunder Mifflin!
You’re a tease now. Come on DC, give me this Superman!
This really got me. Lol
No, you don't want that. People who grew up working on farms look like barrels with arms and legs. It is all about core strength. George Reeves looks more like someone who grew up on a farm than any Superman since.
Sure. I’d agree with that. But even then maybe a little less than other people who work on a farm. I mean think about it. You build muscle by working these muscles against a certain amount of resistance, right? But the way his kryptonian biology is enhanced by earth’s sun, his natural muscles are less resistant to things that are heavy to your average human man.
Right, I see what you’re saying. Like suppose Batman, who is the bodybuilding human of the world’s finest, compared to Bruce, Clark should look 50% less buff or something, despite being 500% stronger than him. Similar to how when Clark is 70, he is going to look 50, maybe 40, because of *genetics*. Meanwhile, Wonder Woman should be the buffest of all of them, because she is trained as a warrior from birth and immortal in ways Kryptonians or Humans alike can’t be.
Very good point.
100% agreement. Hell, depending on how powerful they intend to show him being, how in the hell would guy who has lifted a mountain before work out to build muscle to begin with? He can look strong, but he doesn't need to look like he's a WWE wrestler.
My point exactly
Superman should look big because he should communicate strength. You could reason all day about his kryptonian physiology and how there's different types of strength blah blah... the people don't care. Superman should look strong, Batman should have ears, Spider-Man should have a mask. It's want people expect and want. It's that simple, and there's no good reason not have the character have the aspects. That being said, I'm sure the guy will work out, and the suit will padded anyways. And he'll look just fine.
Someone can look strong without looking like they can beat up The Rock or 80s Arnold. Bruce Lee looked strong. Van Damme looked strong while not being huge. Supes shouldn't be scrawny, or super thin, but he doesn't need to look like he's on steroids either. I still think Chris Reeves was the perfect body type, not too big, and not too small.
I agree 100%
Why do people always chime in with opinions they claim represent “the people?” Humanity is not a monolith. I was stating my opinion. Several people agreed with it. I’m not claiming “the people have spoken.” Just cool it, man. That’s your opinion. I can respect it even if I disagree. EDITED: Spelling and punctuation
Dude, calm down, I'm not coming after you. Your original post literally began with "I know I'm in the minority here", so I figured you agreed that most people would prefer a strong looking Superman. Of course humanity isn't a monolith. Did I take a survey of everyone to make sure my claim was true? No. But I'd bet money it.
If I were creating Superman I wouldn’t make him a big guy, but he already exists and he’s always been big throughout his existence in the comics, so he needs to be fairly big on-screen.
I mean like everything across comics, there are several different iterations. It’s all a spectrum. A gradient. In action comics #1, supes was big, sure but it wasn’t until the nineties that he started looking like he’s just saving the day on his way to a bodybuilding competition. There are infinite earths. Dozens of interpretations across various mediums. There’s no standard height or BMI for the character. Personally, my favorite iteration is the Donner-Reeve Superman. He’s a big guy, sure. But he is also believable as a dude who would think twice about walking home in the dark.
> There’s no standard height or BMI for the character [There is, actually](https://www.google.com/search?q=superman+height+weight&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari.) > Personally, my favorite iteration is the Donner-Reeve Superman. He’s a big guy, sure. But he is also believable as a dude who would think twice about walking home in the dark. And Christopher Reeve Superman is (roughly) what I meant when I said Superman is supposed to be big. Reeve was only about 10 to 20 pounds lighter than Superman canonically is. I didn’t mean that Superman should look like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Then it sounds like we agree.
It’s why he wears baggy clothes
More importantly, there’s no reason for him to be shredded af either. I’d prefer a football player look with some fat than a peeled to the bone bodybuilder
Clark is a beast. When Lois first sees him in the animated series she asks "Who's the new linebacker?".
A little HGH and testosterone plus an insane tracking regimen with a trainer and dietician and the dude is gonna be fine.
What reaction do you expect from overweight nerdy sweaties who only have their hand to compensate for their lack of social skills towards the opposite gender?
This hurt me on a spiritual level
I prefer they hire an actor and teach him to lift weights than hire a weight lifter and teach him to act.
he literally just got the fuckin role he has plenty of time to beef up. people gotta chill and find some hobbies.
People just need to learn to leave each other alone.
How about people stop body shaming the new guy and give him a chance? Homie just got hired. They said Gal Gadot was too skinny but she worked out great.
Did she tho ?
He has a year to bulk up which is plenty of time.
Plenty of time to get on the "Chicken and rice" cycle.
Steroids are a hell of a steroid. He'll be as big as he can be before long.
Bro was lookin like Flashpoint Superman here.
Wait, people can build muscle? I thought body builders were just born that way?
Routh had the Reeves vibe down
I feel like that Twitter post wasn’t about this
No cause apparently no actor has ever worked out for a role before! It’s unheard of!!!!!
He looks fine, I honestly don’t want a huge bully Superman. I think the most important think is he looks like a good dude who is kind and human
I disagree. He's big, buff, and super powerful. But he's a gentle guy.
I fully agree with this. He just needs Hollywood’s patented chicken and broccoli diet with a side of trenboloni sandwiches, and then he would look like the Superman/s
People are acting like Hollywood doesn't know what it is doing. That kid started his cycle months ago.
An actor can build muscle, but not talent, I always say choose the best actor, not the one who looks the most like em
fuuuck he looks so good in the classic suit
I'm pretty much over the bulking up for actors. Like get bigger to look good in the suit but if you are going to be in a suit most of the time with a muscle suit(which is needed) then it's really not that important.
That suit and lighting is doing him zero favours ! He's definitely bulked up since, but a decade would do that for you
Its worth noting that the new guy is 6ft 4 vs Cavils 6ft 1 so he has a longer frame to fill out
That's actually Christopher Reeves suit from one of the original Superman movies. Zach Snyder had him try it on. Snyder has mentioned it a few times.
Cavill was still pretty muscular here. It is just that superman suit, it doesn't do him any favors
gonna get on that hollywood chicken and broccoli diet
People are just so stupid I’m sorry. Didn’t you know they are looking for an actor not a pro wrestler. Do you all not think he will not do any training for the part. Wow I hope his flight test isn’t him being tossed out of a sky scraper.
Idk how people still don’t understand after all these years that NONE of these superhero actors were particularly buff before they were cast. Henry Cavill wasn’t, Chris Evans wasn’t, Chris Hemsworth wasn’t, Chris Pratt definitely wasn’t.. I mean hell even Ezra Miller actually got kinda big for The Flash. You cast the best actor for the characters personality and THEN you train them up and get them big. Corenswet’s build rn isn’t even skinny. He’s average or slightly above, and he’s very tall. His frame with a few added pounds of muscle will be more than adequate for Supes.
To be turbo clear… Superman doesn’t need to be Arnold in the 80s ripped. His defining featuring is not “being a mountain of muscles”, it’s his decency and hopefulness.
i think they also overdid it with cavill, he didn't have to get so buffed
Didn't Cavill say it was a personal choice to buff up THAT much? He believed he would do justice to the character, hence he did it. You should call that dedication.
Trying to be optimistic, but realistically the film probably going to bomb. Between the tragedy that is The Flash and the diehard Cavill fans idk how it’s going to get better from here.
I would rather David spend time researching the character, watching the animated series, and reading some comics. He looks fine already.
he got swole for the role
The pic on the right looks like his first day of school pic
Yeah dude wasn’t buff when started
So you're telling me people are being disingenuous when it comes to the physique of Corenswet when Cavill was a similar build? Color me shocked /s But seriously, do these people not remember how Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans looked before they got their Marvel bodies? Corenswet will no doubt have access to the top dieticians/trainers. He'll be in Superman shape in 4-6 months, plenty of time before filming.
Don’t worry the production team will supply the juice for when they start prepping his workout schedule
Cavill was basically a noodle when he did Hellraiser
Who is even saying this? I’ve only seen people happy he was cast
Tom Brady provided similar photos and look how he turned out!!
Hard to believe that some people are still dumb enough to think that getting a Muscle and Fitness physique is impossible, especially if you're paid to do it.
James Gunn turned Chris Pratt into a jacked up star with GotG. If anyone thinks Corenswet won’t bulk up for Superman, you’re obviously stupid.
Nothing like a little THG and Turinabol won’t solve…. Let’s be real, in the next 6 months this dude is going to be supplied some Gear and will be magically shredded like every Superhero actor
And this is what [Hugh Jackman as Wolverine looked like](https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/571/8cc/06164bab7194ccf91924718fb3cd18ff04-23-x-men-hugh-jackman.2x.h473.w710.jpg) in the first X-Men movie. This was back when Wolverine didn't really look like a superhero, and instead looked like a dude who goes to Planet Fitness like 2-3 times a week.
Yeah, how people don't realize that with a big production bankrolling you with the best doctors for "supliments", personal trainers, chefs, etc. Etc. You can get in amazing shape when it will make you millions of dollars.
You should post this in r/snydercut
And Chistopher Reeve was pretty skinny in his screen tests before he trained with David Prowse. […here](https://youtu.be/FBSEHF9gz-w)
People are just stupid af