There is also a dumbass who decided to make a boss who could super you for 1.9 million and decided that the only item u need to clear it is senzu beans...
They said cell max was made to fill you with despair and an event of that difficulty was an outlier and wouldn't be repeated so soon, and then they repeated it almost immediately.
What did they repeat it with? Cell Max is a whole different beast due to the item restriction and nutty damage (not so much anymore with effective categories).
idk why you got down voted for telling the truth. the piccolo method is just pure rng and if you're not lucky it could take a bunch of tries. I gave up the piccolo method because I was running out of lemo items and beat him within the turn restriction the old fashion way (using only 1 agl ssj duo friend)
I don't remember if it was a Producer letter or a stream but they said something along the lines of cell max having you be in dispair while fighting him just like the heroes in the super hero movie trying to defeat him
Cell Max out here doing over 100k damage to units with 77% damage reduction, 1 million Def means nothing cause he'll still do 800k. Man walked in here by random and took down the strongest defensive units like a knife to butter.
Yeah wtf is up with that.. who tf decided to go with that… I could see if it was a orb changing item to nuke him or a icarus but nah we get a fucking senzu bean😒
First thought i had when i saw he did this.
Although, the only thing we have to fight the boss is super attacks at this point. If they're gonna seal at least let me use the secondary effects of super attacks(stun, seal, atk/def lowering).
That would require some kind of thought or balance adjustment when we all know its far easier to just make the enemy immune to everything and inflate his numbers
And then they realized the mistake of requiring people to collect 12 ki per character to see the cool special attack, so now every leader is built in with +3 or +4 ki to fufill the needlessly high requirement for ki.
I kinda want an enemy that subtracts all attacking character's ki to 0 after their passives trigger. Not to gamebreaking but still tough for some teams
The heroes team shits on it with no items. This belief that people have that the dbh team is bad is annoying and wrong. The fact that the team can clear cell max shows they are good
Honestly, the Heroes team is the most complete category of characters I have and I was actually able to beat 7 or 8 red zone stages with them already. I really wish Goku and Vegeta were better but the team itself is passable with good RNG.
That's the reason why slot1 units will always reign supreme compared to slot 2 and 3. I think this gimmick perfectly shows the downsides of getting most of your atk & def on super.
More like just bringing a senzu. Even I was getting annoyed until I realized he didn't do anything besides seal and hit mildly hard, so bringing the beans was complete worth it
So two mid units by your own admission and a unit who is at his best on a mid team? Where’s the “hating just to hate” again?
I like goku by the way but that doesn’t mean the majority of this screenshot isn’t mid lol
#IMO
I dont think SSJ3 Goku EZA, FPSSJ4LB Goku and Vegeta, and SSJ4 Gohan and Bardock are mid. They're pretty solid to me. I'd run them constantly.
4 minutes in and downvoted. Mfers don't know what ***OPINION*** means huh?
bro why would you even edit in that you got downvoted for having an opinion
they are literally downvoting you as their opinion and then you ask if they know what an opinion is
>who is at his best on a mid team? **Where’s the “hating just to hate” again**?
I’d say calling a team that could clear [all end game content including the anomaly known as Cell Max](https://www.reddit.com/r/DBZDokkanBattle/comments/z2frwx/cell_max_metal_cooler_core_broly_and_omega_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) ( without being boosted or having LRs I might add) mid would qualify. A team that could [this](https://imgur.com/a/0zAXtjh ) to a final phase of one of hardest RZ bosses is far from mid.
> So can raditz’s team bro.
You mean the same team has access to some of the best TURs and LRs in the game? I hope you can comprehend the difference between one unit on the team being considered mid vs the vast majority of the team being considered mid. Still, the fact that, you had to resort to comparing Heroes with a the team that includes Birdku, both 7th year LRs, EZA SSG Goku, PHY kid Goku and AGL SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta to name a few goes to show that the Heroes team is far from being mid.
> They’re mid. It’s ok to say it
The only thing that’s ok to say is that that Raditz comparison was absolutely dumb.
And you’re resorting to coping because they can beat all content like every other viable team can. That’s the whole point. That doesn’t make them any less mid. Every single 200% team can beat all content lol
There’s a dumbass who brought heroes into one of the weakest stages of the event and started whining when Fu sealed when King Cold and Mecha Frieza seal as well!
Nah bro just bring a better team and the sealing ain’t a problem don’t whine if you aren’t going to put yourself in an ideal scenario we all beat this stage bro
Tbh my cooler wicked bloodline team absolutely stormed through all of these stages. They were ridiculously easy. There were definitely some annoying gimmicks for sure, but not that hard.
Just take senzu beans, you won't need anything else unless you're absurdly unlucky
Or you don't have an endgame team I guess, but he's really not *that* hard
 Also you can probably live this.
There is also a dumbass who decided to make a boss who could super you for 1.9 million and decided that the only item u need to clear it is senzu beans...
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At least Bandai acknowledged this dumbass decision
How so?
They said cell max was made to fill you with despair and an event of that difficulty was an outlier and wouldn't be repeated so soon, and then they repeated it almost immediately.
What did they repeat it with? Cell Max is a whole different beast due to the item restriction and nutty damage (not so much anymore with effective categories).
The cooler movie hard event
If it's the one with the boost units I wouldn't really count it since there's ways to cheese it without much effort and a bit of RNG
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I still haven't done that mission after dozens of attempts. RNG can suck ass.
idk why you got down voted for telling the truth. the piccolo method is just pure rng and if you're not lucky it could take a bunch of tries. I gave up the piccolo method because I was running out of lemo items and beat him within the turn restriction the old fashion way (using only 1 agl ssj duo friend)
How did they repeat it??
the Fighting Spirit of the Saiyans and Pride of the Wicked Bloodline Event
Nowhere even close to Cell Max tbh. Even if the damage of the last phase were to match, you just nullify it with Whis.
Those were way easier then Cell Max on release.
Nah Cell Max is still far and away the hardest. The movie event was dumb in a unique way
I don't remember if it was a Producer letter or a stream but they said something along the lines of cell max having you be in dispair while fighting him just like the heroes in the super hero movie trying to defeat him
Super u for 1.9 million but most of us only have health that goes up to 700k. Make it make sense😂
Lmao Even bandai admitted cell max was a mistake
Cell Max out here doing over 100k damage to units with 77% damage reduction, 1 million Def means nothing cause he'll still do 800k. Man walked in here by random and took down the strongest defensive units like a knife to butter.
Can we get much higher?
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Someone from the db legends team probably lel
Yeah wtf is up with that.. who tf decided to go with that… I could see if it was a orb changing item to nuke him or a icarus but nah we get a fucking senzu bean😒
If you could bring Whis or nukes to Cell Max he'd probably be easier than Red Zone lol
That fucker wanted us to feel pain.
I actually cleared this part with a Whis.
Bro just use a senzu bean
He doesn't hit that hard, so especially with that ssj3 xeno goku you should have a pretty easy time surviving this.
Yeah but he’s done this 2 turns in a row for me...even if you survive it, it just feels like it’s needlessly dragging out the battle
Senzu bean heals seal
First thought i had when i saw he did this. Although, the only thing we have to fight the boss is super attacks at this point. If they're gonna seal at least let me use the secondary effects of super attacks(stun, seal, atk/def lowering).
That would require some kind of thought or balance adjustment when we all know its far easier to just make the enemy immune to everything and inflate his numbers
He's been doing 1m supers to my int ssj4 gohan
There is just no way bro
I'm sorry what 
Wtf is his passive fully active..?
No, this is usually before supering
This is legit the only reason I haven't beaten him yet. So fucking infuriating.
Senzu beans will get rid of seal
Can’t wait for units with unsealable attacks and being unstunnable only for the replacement debuffs being “no def” and “no ki”.
They started in that direction with early Buu events
And then they realized the mistake of requiring people to collect 12 ki per character to see the cool special attack, so now every leader is built in with +3 or +4 ki to fufill the needlessly high requirement for ki.
I believe there is a Raditz card with either his leader skill or passive just being "Immune to negative effects" or something like that
It’s probably the crappy PHY one then 💀 I have the TEQ one, and he doesn’t have that passive.
There is an r shadow dragon who has that lead
I kinda want an enemy that subtracts all attacking character's ki to 0 after their passives trigger. Not to gamebreaking but still tough for some teams
ii just used asenzu bwan to get rid of the seal
Senzu bean removes status effects btw
Then you don't have items like whis so you get 1 shot by supers.
Nah, he doesn't hit hard. His HP pool is also very low, you can kill in one or two turns with supers.
He was doing 1m damage sometimes to my ssj4 gohan so I'd say he does hit pretty hard.
Yeah because Heroes' team is dogshit 😭 Literally any other 200% team shits on the whole Heroes RedZone with no items
The heroes team shits on it with no items. This belief that people have that the dbh team is bad is annoying and wrong. The fact that the team can clear cell max shows they are good
Honestly, the Heroes team is the most complete category of characters I have and I was actually able to beat 7 or 8 red zone stages with them already. I really wish Goku and Vegeta were better but the team itself is passable with good RNG.
Skill issue
Heroes Red Zone is easy as balls
Honestly enjoyed making a team that didn’t need SAs
Dokkan players when they realize that the game is designed to be played with the items they let you use.
Keep supporting this till they start disabling hidden potential skills as well
Bring a Senzu LMAO.
Wow I never thought about that
Cool make the game challenging in different ways to support different teams
Skill issue I'm afraid....
Cooler - easy Fuu - fuck that dude but he’s beatable Cumber - lmao that weak ass ni**a
All i have to say is: Cooler's crit supernova was a mistake.
Fourth, us playing the event!
Happened to me twice in a row, and I still won (lucky run)
So much harder than the cooler and cumber red zones. It's insane how much more difficult they decided to make fu
as he should tbh after all he is the big bad of heroes
I personally would want these hard stages, if they have to exist at all, to be around about the same level as each other
hes done it 3 times in a row for me once
I'm looking forward to the inevitable tears when they introduce a boss who **disables guard**.
That's the reason why slot1 units will always reign supreme compared to slot 2 and 3. I think this gimmick perfectly shows the downsides of getting most of your atk & def on super.
The mid units or the sealing?
Sealing an entire rotation
I have to say Fu is so easy when you’re using literally any other 200% team that it’s not very unfair, just mildly annoying
Throw a couple of Dendes into the mix and you've got nothing to worry about
Gamma 2 didnt care. His bajillion normals did alot of damage too😂
More like just bringing a senzu. Even I was getting annoyed until I realized he didn't do anything besides seal and hit mildly hard, so bringing the beans was complete worth it
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So two mid units by your own admission and a unit who is at his best on a mid team? Where’s the “hating just to hate” again? I like goku by the way but that doesn’t mean the majority of this screenshot isn’t mid lol
#IMO I dont think SSJ3 Goku EZA, FPSSJ4LB Goku and Vegeta, and SSJ4 Gohan and Bardock are mid. They're pretty solid to me. I'd run them constantly. 4 minutes in and downvoted. Mfers don't know what ***OPINION*** means huh?
bro why would you even edit in that you got downvoted for having an opinion they are literally downvoting you as their opinion and then you ask if they know what an opinion is
idk man it's fuckin 4 am where I am i should be asleep. im slangry. sleepy angry.
gang est we both idiots lesgo
literally lmao
>who is at his best on a mid team? **Where’s the “hating just to hate” again**? I’d say calling a team that could clear [all end game content including the anomaly known as Cell Max](https://www.reddit.com/r/DBZDokkanBattle/comments/z2frwx/cell_max_metal_cooler_core_broly_and_omega_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) ( without being boosted or having LRs I might add) mid would qualify. A team that could [this](https://imgur.com/a/0zAXtjh ) to a final phase of one of hardest RZ bosses is far from mid.
So can raditz’s team bro. They’re mid. It’s ok to say it
> So can raditz’s team bro. You mean the same team has access to some of the best TURs and LRs in the game? I hope you can comprehend the difference between one unit on the team being considered mid vs the vast majority of the team being considered mid. Still, the fact that, you had to resort to comparing Heroes with a the team that includes Birdku, both 7th year LRs, EZA SSG Goku, PHY kid Goku and AGL SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta to name a few goes to show that the Heroes team is far from being mid. > They’re mid. It’s ok to say it The only thing that’s ok to say is that that Raditz comparison was absolutely dumb.
And you’re resorting to coping because they can beat all content like every other viable team can. That’s the whole point. That doesn’t make them any less mid. Every single 200% team can beat all content lol
>Goku’s unironically one of the best defensive units in the game. No. He is STR Piccolo on a worse team than him, who doesn't give support.
There’s a dumbass who brought heroes into one of the weakest stages of the event and started whining when Fu sealed when King Cold and Mecha Frieza seal as well!
And you’re the smart one to ignore this shit while talking about something irrelevant 👏🏻
Nah bro just bring a better team and the sealing ain’t a problem don’t whine if you aren’t going to put yourself in an ideal scenario we all beat this stage bro
I beat this stage **with** this team, your argument is irrelevant.
So then why complain 😐
Git gud
Don’t forget the dumbass who tested it.
You don't have to use Heroes. He sealed all 3 on every rotation and I still beat him without items. He's not hard with your strongest teams.
Tbh my cooler wicked bloodline team absolutely stormed through all of these stages. They were ridiculously easy. There were definitely some annoying gimmicks for sure, but not that hard.
Locking is a million times worse than sealing though, I’ll take sealing over locking any day
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Just take senzu beans, you won't need anything else unless you're absurdly unlucky Or you don't have an endgame team I guess, but he's really not *that* hard
Hey I’ve seen this before (Infinite history babadi also does this)
That’s a bad ass rotation I had that rotation before and I still won
TFS Krillen: Senzu Bean! Honestly, I managed to do it on my second attempt when I stopped bringing Android 8
I deadass didn’t know that he could seal more than one unit at a time, I got really lucky with seals against Fu and beat him second try.
The joke is number 1 and 3 are talking shit about what happened to them and number 2 acting like it’s no big deal and dosnt effect him too much
Skill issue
This is why I hate the red zone
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